Amy, I've probably gone off a bit too harshly (had a few annoying/weird clients in the past couple of days), but I feel that escorting has really opened my eyes up about what men (yes, not 100% of them, but definitely the majority) are really like. Maybe the word 'primitive' is a bad choice here, so I'll just go with 'different' I never realized HOW different men are from women before. I find it really incredible how important sex is to them, to the point where they'll have sex with just about any woman willing, and how often they need it, and how they are able to get off anywhere/with anyone-like Shewolf says, it really seems to be animal-like and even scary! Sex to them is like eating, a vital necessity, a need that simply must be met-anytime, anywhere and with pretty much anyone. To me, it's a bit mind-blowing.

One the one hand, I guess it's good they're that simple to figure out, but on the other...I just find women to be more complex and sophisticated beings. Yes, women can enjoy sex with no emotions attached, but for most, even then there has to be some attraction-like the one night stands, I have had quite a few, but I wouldn't sleep with just anybody, I would need the guy to attract me, and not just physically, he would have to be smart and funny and just have that 'something' about him. Whereas for men, when they want sex, they don't seem to need that-they just go for it as long as the woman has a pulse and is more or less willing.

Maybe it just boils down to mama nature where women must be careful when choosing a partner because they will need to take care of children whereas men want to spread their seed wide and far, I don't know...

Also, I find it a bit disturbing that old men enjoy young girls-I mean men in their 70s booking escorts in their 20s- I am 31 and I had a couple of clients who were 19-20, and I felt like I was a perv!! Then again maybe it's just me.

But back to the topic: I think escorting will make a complete cynic out of me. At the moment, I really can't imagine being in a relationship and I honestly believe I'm better off alone.

Amy, I've probably gone off a bit too harshly (had a few annoying/weird clients in the past couple of days), but I feel that escorting has really opened my eyes up about what men (yes, not 100% of them, but definitely the majority) are really like.

Unless you have seen the majority of men on the planet in a work capacity, I don't think you, or any of us, can say definitively what the majority of men are like.
There are many millions of men in the world who have never visited an escort and never will - for whatever reasons.
It's really easy to assume that all men are like the ones we see, but that just isn't the case. We only know what the ones we see are like - not the ones we don't see!

Are you including everybody who can enjoy sex without any emotion whatsoever? I daresay there's quite a few of us on this board.

Guilty as charged, even though practice I guess I don't count as a woman.

Whereas for men, when they want sex, they don't seem to need that-they just go for it as long as the woman has a pulse and is more or less willing.

Not really, I have mostly male friends and I've seen them turn down an 'opportunity' with girls a lot, because the person was below their visual standards.

As always am gonna chip in and mention that the casual manbashing that flares up every once in a while is really iffy to read. If nothing else, remember that not all folks on the board are female, though they might be a lot less bothered by reading this.

I believe the former is a skill developed for the point of obtaining money i.e separating the self/developing two personas (because women are wired to be emotionally involved in order to get intimate-fact) and the latter is a choice made because they get complete release and satisfaction from it (because men are wired differently).

Except that there are a lot of women, not just among escorts, who have NSA sex and enjoy it that way. Assuming everyone needs emotional involvement isn't a fact, it's a generalization. I'm not strictly cis, so I am not the best example, but I absolutely preferred totally unattached hook-ups until life circumstances forced me to settle down somewhat. And even after that I was a notorious cheater still - that stopped only after once I started escorting and purely because my now-partner greenlighted the job.

Likewise, plenty of social circles I mingle in have women who have no interest in involved relationships or family-making and would much rather have a good & game booty calls.

So I've come to the conclusion that its individual, however much more common in the younger generation.

I didn't want to jump to this conclusion but it does seem more common indeed - I'm situated in the late 20s/early 30s demographic, socially speaking.

it's easy for me to say that most men can get hard for anything/anyone/anywhere/anytime. Say with a one eyed, one legged midget in a bush in broad daylight on a Saturday. Just saying lol. where as I can't get aroused with my clients cuz there is no physical attraction and I would not fuck in a bush in broad daylight on a saturday becuase I would be too uncomfortable to enjoy it. But just becuase i dont enjoy doing that doesn't mean other women don't though. I just don't know any female that would do it out of desire but just out of pleasing the man. But I know men that can manage putting a bag over a midget's head and get hard and fuck her anywhere. Some don't even need the bag. lolz. I don't get it. So i kinda want to agree with Evergreen. I mean, I haven't met all men but the majority that I know are like that. Plus with this whole "all punters reading from the same book/doing or saying the same thing" It just leads me to believe that most punters are the same i'e most men are the same. If that even makes sense. lol. Ok so let's agree that all men aren't the same but 8 out of ten are like that though. I've seen porn where a man can get hard and fuck his own dog. How many ladies on here can get wet for an animal?

I've seen porn where a man can get hard and fuck his own dog. How many ladies on here can get wet for an animal?

Jessica, with the best will in the world that didn't need to be posted twice.

Extreme examples of what individuals are capable of don't back up either the sexist generalisations or the argument against them - I'm sure most of us have seen porn with women taking dildos the size of a 2 litre Coke bottle but that doesn't provide any useful information about women generally.

Quote from: Shewolf on 11 February 2016, 05:51:34 pm

I believe the former is a skill developed for the point of obtaining money i.e separating the self/developing two personas (because women are wired to be emotionally involved in order to get intimate-fact) and the latter is a choice made because they get complete release and satisfaction from it (because men are wired differently).

Except that there are a lot of women, not just among escorts, who have NSA sex and enjoy it that way. Assuming everyone needs emotional involvement isn't a fact, it's a generalization. I'm not strictly cis, so I am not the best example, but I absolutely preferred totally unattached hook-ups until life circumstances forced me to settle down somewhat. And even after that I was a notorious cheater still - that stopped only after once I started escorting and purely because my now-partner greenlighted the job.

Likewise, plenty of social circles I mingle in have women who have no interest in involved relationships or family-making and would much rather have a good & game booty calls.

Exactly. Having a theory you apply within your immediate and limited frame of reference is fine, but presenting it as fact ('women are wired x way and men are wired y way') is not.

I don't need two personas to recognise that sex can be had for myriad different purposes including recreation; I've been doing so with just the one since I was in my mid teens and didn't work as a prostitute until I was thirty. There are different ways of and reasons for having sex just as there are different ways of and reasons for eating and sleeping.