.... Or a twitter account.

Don't you mean a bitter account?  

Sorry guys but you're posts are unbelievably negative.  I too usually ignore negative posts and indeed have done but its starting to take the biscuit now.  Move on.  Get therapy or whatever you do stateside.  Get over it.

I've been telling Joey for a while now that he should get a livejournal, and I agree with some of you that this post would have been better off there. I'd like to repeat what Amy's been saying though; the best thing to do with a thread you don't like is ignore it. If most people feel the same as you, it won't last long. This is actually true and I'm not just saying it because I don't want people being mean, although I don't.

Some of you are missing the point...

The reason why I was so upset is because my friend was mentioning how he needed money for his phone bill was about to get cut off. Now, in our philosophy as escorts...do we believe in shagging for free when we are in need? No. So for him to go on an all night fuck-fest and have nothing to show for it, and have the guy send him on his way was shocking.

I was at the house as a matter of an invite from my friend.

It seems like you all are diagreeing with me simply because Im having a rant and you're tired of it. I bet if the shoe was on the other foot, and it was a  lady friend out there screwing for free, doing bareback anal and all sorts of crazy sh!t for free when she didn't have a penny in her purse to eat...the responses wouldn't have been so 'freewill, its your life, do as you please".

Again...he agreed with every word I was saying. The prinicple. I was simply letting him know not to be so cheap and easy with men. These guys are older than him and treat him like a piece of disposable ass. The only reason he wont do anything about it is because he doesn't know there is a better way to go about it.

When you put up with stupid all your life, you're willing to take whatever comes to you. As long as he is  in my prescense, Im not having it.

Now, in our philosophy as escorts...do we believe in shagging for free when we are in need? No. So for him to go on an all night fuck-fest and have nothing to show for it, and have the guy send him on his way was shocking.

I don't have any philosophy that has much to do with me being an escort, and sex and money have little to do with each other unless I'm working. Midori doesn't get people agreeing with her when she goes off in this direction either, so it shouldn't really be surprising that most of us aren't with you.

Your friend's decisions about his sex life may not be healthy or based on solid foundation of self-respect, it certainly happens, especially with young people. If he's having casual bareback sex then that at least is worrying. We don't agree with what you've said though, because your main point is that you're mad at him for having sex for free. Firstly why are you mad at him? If he's hurting himself he needs help, not rage. Secondly, sex isn't naturally a commodity any more than it's naturally a pure and sacred expression of love. There's nothing wrong with not being a hooker, and if he wants to have sex with people anyway that's up to him.

If you think that his motivations for having sex aren't just to have some fun to distract him from his phone bill, and/or that the way he's going about it is damaging his self-image (and if the bareback thing's right, dangerous to his health), then by all means try to work on that with him. Counselling or therapy might be helpful if it's available, or a sexual health or gay men's project. If he's doing stuff for any available man because he doesn't think he's worth any more, then tell him he is... but please unpack that from the assumption that he should be getting compensated in cash. If he wants to sell some ass to ease his situation then you can give him advice on that, but you don't need to be telling him that that's what he should be doing with his life.

I also dont understand why I have to tweet everything....when the babble and blather section is for "the lighter side of escorting and other topics"

Because this isn't meant to be your personal sounding board. You had a period where you stopped posting so much of your personal grief and ranting, but it seems to be on the increase again. You're as welcome as everyone else to use this forum to vent sometimes, but you do it way more than everyone else. If a bunch of people meet up for drinks regularly and chat about their thoughts and their lives and what's on tv, that's a good social situation and everyone gets something out of it. If one guy manages to spend most of the time talking about himself and whatever's bothering him it gets annoying though, and it's kind of like that. Of course being here isn't like being in a bar, and as long as you're not hijacking other threads everyone except me, Amy and Emily can ignore you, but you don't really want that to be the best solution to having you around, do you?

In this case it may be a question of approach. You've gone a little towards concern for your friend as the thread's progressed, but your initial post was entirely about you. You being pissed off about stuff. It's not getting you anywhere, and it's not something most of us want to read between booking either. If you'd started with "I'm worried about this guy who's young and poor and just seems to have sex with guys who don't give a shit about him" (oh, and not titled it "Easy sluts like this disgust me...."), I'm sure you would have had a different response.

(and if the bareback thing's right, dangerous to his health), then by all means try to work on that with him. Counselling or therapy might be helpful if it's available, or a sexual health or gay men's project. If he's doing stuff for any available man because he doesn't think he's worth any more, then tell him he is... but please unpack that from the assumption that he should be getting compensated in cash. If he wants to sell some ass to ease his situation then you can give him advice on that, but you don't need to be telling him that that's what he should be doing with his life.

Well thats the thing...the bareback thing is true and thats another reason I was upset. I was just telling him how another friend of mine had gotten syphilis...and his response, "what? how did he get that?" It just comes off being so ignorant when he's doing that with a man who says, "hurry up, or Im going to call someone else"

I had already had a long chat with him about all of this. I just felt a need to discuss this...and Im sorry that I didn't write it in a better way. Its just that I tend to speak my mind as is...raw material.

Like I said, maybe this was just something that affected me because I've been that stupid person in the past...talking to him about it just wasn't enough because he doesn't understand the concept. You understood exactly what was going on there.

If one guy manages to spend most of the time talking about himself and whatever's bothering him it gets annoying though, and it's kind of like that. Of course being here isn't like being in a bar, and as long as you're not hijacking other threads everyone except me, Amy and Emily can ignore you, but you don't really want that to be the best solution to having you around, do you?

Absolutely not...but sometimes I feel more the need to vent because of certain things happening at the moment...if I cant do it without getting hate mail, thats just going to show everyone else who has an issue arise that they should probabaly keep quiet

I have removed the extremely offensive posts made earlier today on this thread following what I think is probably a record number of members reporting them, and obviously this has meant the responses of others have gone as well, for the sake of clarity and not for any other reason.

Joey, shortly after 3.30 am today I posted this:

Joey, I don't care how riled you are - language like is not acceptable here; this has been stated many times over recently and you know it. If you have to pick an argument, take it to PM and DO NOT post any further personal abuse.

I also sent you this by PM at quarter to four:

As you will see, I have deleted the thread you started about comments allegedly made by another SAAFE member on your blog. This is not because I think it's OK to post abuse there or anywhere else, but what happens outside this forum stays outside it and I will not have arguments from elsewhere played out on here.

If you can't calm down, log off and go and do something else for an hour. It's nearly four am over here and I have bookings in the morning, so I can't sit here and babysit and nor should I have to. Any attempt to repost will also be deleted - if you are having serious problem with another member which you cannot sort out yourself please contact the admins.

Your postings barely an hour later have left me not only speechless at the proof that you could sink even lower than you already have, but also that you clearly believe you and you alone are somehow above the rules here. You have been told repeatedly both subtly and not-so-subtly that your current aggressive, self-obsessed and generally appalling conduct on the forum is not acceptable and this is your idea of how to put things right? Hang your head in shame for making such remarks.

I cannot believe we are even talking about giving a single forum member his own section, but it is clearly going to have to come to that. On the 14th of July I posted this:

Joey, if you're going to try and be condescending it helps an awful lot if you are in a position from which to condescend.

No one here is your 'dear' or your 'sweetheart' - either you've got yourself worked up into some ridiculous belief that you are suddenly some pithy, erudite tour-de-force or you've mistaken the forum for the Jerry Springer show; either way it stops now - disagreeing with others and expressing an opposing view is one thing, but if you want to indulge in this risible, queeny shrieking save it for the PMs, where you and your countryfolk can smugly pat yourselves on the back, sneer and perpetuate your apparent belief that none of us have any idea what we're talking about to your hearts content. As far as the board goes though, enough is enough.

Any more of the same and your threads are getting merged into one enormous Sticky entitled 'Joey's Ranting Crap', or similar. You have been warned.

Now believe it 0r not, some of us have other things to do then twat about pandering to you in order that we can find an acceptable way for you to remain a part of this forum, and I do not have time to do it now. But I strongly suggest you stay off this forum and out of my way for the remainder of today. When the moderation and Admin team have decided what to do, you will be the first to know.