1) Things like this will always happen in this kind of game, NEVER TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

2) When someone swears at you, there is no need to get nasty. Why drag yourself down to that level? I never bother; me and this is just me; smile on my face; I do not appreciate your comments, goodbye. But you were very extremely polite until the end which I know is hard!

3) Customer service? Maybe ask instead; when would be a good time for you to speak? I find it easier just to have a quick call But then he was the one that was unable to call so really this booking would have never happened so why cry over spilt milk?

4) Surely you should know the times of that particular booking instead of having to ask the client?

5) You cannot prevent useless people from harassing you in this kind of the game, like I said, you have to be strong and learn when it is best to just step out.

6) The forum thing; what can we do about that now, some people stoop low.

****MY OPINIONS ONLY*** not gospel, just how I am

4) Surely you should know the times of that particular booking instead of having to ask the client?

There were two booking in that area that I bid on. He would not say who he was or what his nickname was and I didn't relate it at first to the emails because he never said he was the sane person. I don't just randomly bid on the bookings I do read them and make for sure everything is correct.

Oh and it is personal trust me.

Good shout,

Rants= necessary in life

Rants on AW= not necessary in life

Share it here with the girls


Oh I understand it was two bookings in the same area; so he's a silly man for putting an RB up and not having 5 minutes in private to talk to someone as most WGs would insist on a phonecall.

Mixed blessing indeed!

Oh, I think I may have just read about this on another site, gonna PM you in a sec...

OOOPS! I see you have already read it...ignore me...

Hi Kylie

I'm sorry that you've felt rubbish tonight.

I do, however, feel it's necessary to give a balanced viewpoint.

1) In recent weeks, I've seen quite a few posts from you on the forum - sometimes not very supportive of the people who have been looking for help and reassurance.  I hope that your own experiences will alter this - after all these forums are designed for supporting one another.

2) The word "babe" may be perceived as being patronising by some people, but is in no way a nasty word.  It's a (misguided) term of endearment - one I often use with friends and wouldn't bat an eyelid if a punter used it.  If he called me a ***i c**t I would want to knock him out! But babe? No,sorry, it's not offensive!  Get over it!

3) This guy appeared to be concerned that you would have travel problems, at night, travelling a distance home. 

Imagine a guy you know - say a shy 31 year old, someone you've known years - and he's single.  This guy might be the one booking a WG - but he still doesn't want it on his conscience that a 19 year old girl has to travel 2+ hours home, alone on the train!

Yes, some punters are idiots/weirdos/timewasters/freaks.  But many aren't! And you might find this if you took the time to get to know them, before you picked a fight!

Many guys are just human beings who wouldn't want to see a woman struggling to get a train on her own, late at night.

As for calling you "babe"- can't help but think that  as soon as you asked him not to, he jsut wanted to wind you up.  Cant say I blame him - you weren't very nice to him either.

Hope you can accept my honesty and take something positive from it x

The way I see it, it started going bad here

My reply: Babe? You need to call me to discuss appointments. I'm not comfortable texting thanks.

Him: Just let me know if it's doable then we can talk on the phone.

My reply: I can't say yes or no until I have spoken to you on the phone can I? (at this point I obviously did not know that he was the sane client who had emailed me) I don't even know which nickname it was? It says very clearly to call not text.

Would it really have been too much to say yes, it should be fine, but will discuss it properly on the phone. As to me it sounds like your avoiding the question which as many have posted here is a classic punter time waster sign. So what is the guy going to be thinking at this point?

Him: Ok leave it babe I can't call until after 8 as my kids are here. And I don't think you would get home until gone midnight depending on trains.

My reply: Please stop calling me 'babe' no worries you clearly can't respect what I ask so I decline my bid. Thanks.

Again here, where is the disrespect, he has stated he doesnt like the idea of you getting home late, and then he cant call until 8pm, so I would have just asked him to call after that and discuss things properly. Again by now I would be thinking time waster if the roles were reversed.

Him: Probably wise thing babe you need to check babe that you can do the booking before bidding babe instead of wasting people's time. Goodbye.

My reply: I did check the booking you ignorant twat! I bidded on at least 10 other bookings not just you'res! And I could have done it if you would have respected my wishes and called me with the details but you can't even do that. I wouldn't want to see someone like you that clearly needs to grow up. You are blacklisted.

Now here he is thinking time waster, and you insult him, thats why you no doubt got the abuse back, the content isnt really as issue.

What the hell could I have done to prevent this?

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to be a teensey bit flexible and don't always go into attack mode because somebody cant follow your way of doing things to the letter. Failing that when it starts to  turn sour, just turn the phone off count to 100 switch it back on and wait for the next call.

Him: 'Babe you bid on my reverse booking for portsmouth for tomorrow I think it's a long way for you to travel in particular going home at night don't you think x

My reply: Ermm it's only a couple of hours on the train. What time was it for
again?

Him:Train from where babe? And it's 8pm star finish at 10.

My reply: Babe? You need to call me to discuss appointments. I'm not comfortable texting thanks.

Him: Just let me know if it's doable then we can talk on the phone.

My reply: I can't say yes or no until I have spoken to you on the phone can I? (at this point I obviously did not know that he was the sane client who had emailed me) I don't even know which nickname it was? It says very clearly to call not text.

Him: Ok leave it babe I can't call until after 8 as my kids are here. And I don't think you would get home until gone midnight depending on trains.


From where you are it would be 2hrs 40 on the train plus transfers from your home to station, and portsmouth to the hotel - a 6hr plus round travel trip - so 8hrs in total for ?200!

He doesn't know where you are necessarily, you just told him 2hrs and that makes midnight.  Quite right to be concerned for your travel.  And probably disbelief that you would travel so far for ?200. If I was him I wouldn't believe that someone would travel so far for so little.




My reply: I did check the booking you ignorant twat! I bidded on at least 10 other bookings not just you'res! And I could have done it if you would have respected my wishes and called me with the details but you can't even do that. I wouldn't want to see someone like you that clearly needs to grow up. You are blacklisted.

Him: Go fuck yourself you fat slag. You haven't got a clue you thick whore.

Calling a prospective client names will get them to bit back!

I replied saying why would you ask to see me in the first place if you thought that of me? And I said he was being pathetic and that I felt very sorry for him. He continued to be vile swearing calling me names,retard,fat,slag,whore and also commented on how I got banned from a previous form. I said I was very glad I didn't see scum like him. Shortly after this nasty person has gone on a certain form making up complete and utter bare faced lies about what was said. I can never get my head around how nasty some people are prepared to go. Do they do this for fun? I am a nice person and I don't deserve it. I won't let the scum beat me and karma will repay them one day.

Oh dear, oh dear! No wonder you get into fights on boards.  After the fact that he thought it too far, you agree and say thanks and stop the conversation.

What the hell could I have done to prevent this?

Kylie

You also told him that you had bid on 10 other bids - from the fact that you did not know how far in time and guessed 2hrs by train - (2hr 39min plus transfers and waiting - i looked it up), makes you look like a spam bidder.

I suspect you might be a spam bidder myself from what you said.

Genereal Tips on Reverse bookings

Sometimes I bid on something far away if it is in a city I fancy seeing and an interesting or lucrative bid.  I then state in my bid that although I am far away I am/or happy to come and do a mini tour so distance is not a problem, but that I would need to have the bid confirmed early so that I can arrange my travel.  This makes me look like a professional and not a spammer. I can then book a travelodge and set up a mini tour so it is no big deal.

I would not bid for a 2hr jobs at well under my rate 3hrs from my home as I would be out of pocket after allowing for travel etc.

One other thing to note on reverse bids, if you know the bidder(and don't think you would get it) don't bid.

I see multiple bids on there from people I recognise, either as clients or from forums, or that bid virtually daily and never get any ratings. Reverse bookings are like car crashes, they draw you in.  Sometimes I see ones from clients that are a bit low, not too low, and I bid, because I know them and am likely to get it because they would never directly ask me for a discount.  This would be one freely offered and they are grateful.

Others I see I know I saw before and for whatever reason we didn't click or they like variety, don't bid.

Pushing the envelope on size and age is a no no as that is a pet hate on forums.  If they state 8-12, they really mean 8 as they think a size 12 is a BBW on many forums. Don't put yourself at risk of abuse.

And if you don't accept texts, as I don't, ignore them after they text back a second time after being texted to "ring me when convenient"!