Author Topic: Sugar Daddies & related arrangements (Read 135254 times)

MissFlint · « **Reply #255 on:** 03 February 2015, 12:12:30 pm »

I met with a potential SD through seeking arrangement and he agreed to ?800 per meet if we spend the night together. It sounded like a good deal but the time frame seemed to expand every time we talked about it, for example he said we should meet for lunch, spend the day together and then spend the night together. In my mind I was just thinking of meeting for dinner then spending the night together. Also he was constantly texting me in the lead up to our first paid date (which wasn't for 2 weeks). I could not deal with all the texts and emails and realised it wasn't worth it for all the work I had to put in and all the flattery that was expected of me.

SusieSu · « **Reply #256 on:** 11 May 2015, 01:32:03 pm »

Hi,

I wondered if I could get some more experienced girls opinions on this please?

I live in Exeter, not a very big place, and after my work closed down I started escorting about 2 years ago. Some times I love it and some times I hate it. At the moment I can't seem to get any enthusiasm for it (probably due to a bout of BV) but I haven't been able to get another job and I've been looking for a few months. The gap on my CV doesn't help.

One of my regulars has asked me if I want to move into more of a suggar daddy relationship and he would pay me a monthly allowance. He's offered me less than what I'd make if I were working often, but more than I make at the moment when I can't be arsed and I hardly work. The money is fine, I can live on it comfortably, but it's the other bits I'm not sure about. We haven't arranged any of the specifics of what he'd want from me, how often we'd see each other, how he'd pay me, stuff like that, and he's giving me some time to think about it so there's room for negotiation, but what do I ask for? Obviously he won't be paying me by the hour any more, but what do you think it reasonable to offer him in terms of my time?

I know that's a bit vague, but if any one else has any experience in this field I'd love to hear it. Also, to complicate things, I've just got a boyfriend he doesn't know I escort. It's a small town and I don't plan on telling him or for him to find out which is why I'm looking for another job. Ideally, I'd like to stick with my new man and find a civvie job but at the moment escorting is my only means of finance. I'm 31, and not keeping up with the bills.

Advice on any of the above would be great. Thanks ladies xxxxx

cheesypeas · « **Reply #257 on:** 11 May 2015, 02:10:20 pm »

I'm guessing it would expand into
more comittments than he's promised.

I'd also be concerned about messing
with my independence.
And I'd get bored looking at his face.

Think of the amount you'd feel
happy with then double it lol.
See what he says.

Midsstudent · « **Reply #258 on:** 11 May 2015, 02:47:01 pm »

I'd only do that if there was an agreed contract in place stating the amount of time/contact I'd be willing to spend with them for the money. Also I'd want the freedom to continue escorting especially as it doesn't sound like he's offering you a lot of money.

The risk with not having very specific boundaries in place means that shaky ones can be pushed. Him being your sole income gives him a lot of power, be aware of that.

Lady_Lust_XXX · « **Reply #259 on:** 11 May 2015, 03:05:05 pm »

Quote from: lacey666 on 03 February 2015, 12:12:30 pm

I met with a potential SD through seeking arrangement and he agreed to ?800 per meet if we spend the night together. It sounded like a good deal but the time frame seemed to expand every time we talked about it, for example he said we should meet for lunch, spend the day together and then spend the night together. In my mind I was just thinking of meeting for dinner then spending the night together. Also he was constantly texting me in the lead up to our first paid date (which wasn't for 2 weeks). I could not deal with all the texts and emails and realised it wasn't worth it for all the work I had to put in and all the flattery that was expected of me.

I think this is what happens most times. They start off wanting 10% of your time, it goes up to 15% then up to 20% .... Do I need to go on and all for the same minimal amount that they want to pay. I've never heard of one that has worked out. I'd run for the hills if I had the energy to run rofl.

Be very very careful if you ever get duped into one of these "relationships", it's all about them wanting to control you. Nasty!

Sabrinavanessa · « **Reply #260 on:** 11 May 2015, 07:45:36 pm »

I am currently negotiating a similar arrangement. We have a price for private time and a price for public time and a commitment of two meetings per week. I suggested that I am taking a risk by putting all my eggs in one basket and he says he will create a fund (worth about 10 meetings or 5 weeks) which I keep if he breaks the arrangement.
I am happy with the commercial arrangement just a bit unsure about the other bits. I know he is not a boundary pusher and he isn't looking for freebies, the only downside I can see is the dependency one.

cheesypeas · « **Reply #261 on:** 11 May 2015, 08:30:49 pm »

Related arrangments...my girlfriend does
the 'seeking night out for a gift' sites.
It's a lot of time emailing and selecting.
Huge amounts of fantasists and space cowboys on these sites.
She does it because she's bored and needs a lush night
out with a banging meal and fine wine.

There is no dependency.
She makes the rules.
She has a non-sex, self employed job.
She treats it like a hobby, a bit of a hunt and chase.

She gets a 'gift' of 1000 pounds average
for an evening with her 'date'.
Often it's a late night not an overnight.
Sex is involved but if he does not pay
enough she'll terminate the date nicely
and not go to his room.

Escorting is never mentioned.
She is very much in control of the transaction.

xw5 · « **Reply #262 on:** 11 May 2015, 08:46:24 pm »

Quote from: Sabrinavanessa on 11 May 2015, 07:45:36 pm

I am currently negotiating a similar arrangement. We have a price for private time and a price for public time and a commitment of two meetings per week. I suggested that I am taking a risk by putting all my eggs in one basket and he says he will create a fund (worth about 10 meetings or 5 weeks) which I keep if he breaks the arrangement.

The 'safe' way to do that is for you to have at least five weeks of money in advance at all times. Otherwise, if he decides to stop seeing you, what makes you think he'd hand over hundreds of quid not to see you? It may be worth reminding him that this is not a deal that the courts would enforce.

Quite a few people with this sort of deal are not, in fact, monogamous to one client. Or one escort.

Shewolf · « **Reply #263 on:** 11 May 2015, 09:13:33 pm »

Quote from: SnakeLady on 21 May 2010, 04:06:35 am

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I'd also like to take the oppertunity to recommend [removed] for a sugar daddy type arrangement, have met some great clients from there.

Hope you don't mind newgirl007 that I've taken your earlier advice for a new thread.

I wonder how does one best approach sugardaddies? I mean if you register on that site, do you mention your escorting site in your profile? Or is it an absolute no? Also, which is the best way of breaching the subject of money? I personally prefer to be paid upfront, rather than been given gifts or having to ask for help with my bills or whatever.

Three or so years ago I placed ads in Financial Times looking for "a generous gentleman" for exciting dates kind of thing. I had replies, most of course TW but a few genuine too. I then proceeded to text them that I was looking to get financially compensated for our dates (can't remember exact words I used) and if that's what they were looking for, then contact me etc.

I've got a couple of bookings that way, but felt I had to kind of pretend that I wasn't an actual escort. Although I did tell one or two that I was.

But this has always puzzled me. When looking for sugardaddies, do you sort of pretend that you're not "just an escort" in order to not repell them? Or was it just me being paranoid?

SnakeLady

Hiya

This is my approach. I don't term them 'sugar daddies' though and as far as they are concerned I am a mistress of sorts. Just put it to married men that you would like a regular arrangement. Be honest with them about what you require in order to do what they want (this way there is no fannying about with gifts etc). Most will do exactly what you ask for if you sell it to them in the correct way. This way you get reliable, professional men who don't cling on etc. You get to know them and I think the whole thing is safer than just meeting strangers week in week out. Too dangerous.

PM me if you would like more details x

Naked Chef · « **Reply #264 on:** 11 May 2015, 09:54:12 pm »

I have just signed up to seekingarrangement.com after reading this thread but I had to laugh at a lot of the profiles - idealistic much?? :-P

I have had a few responses but would it be best to get a separate phone for this as my number is searchable on google and links to my escorting ads.

Sabrinavanessa · « **Reply #265 on:** 11 May 2015, 09:58:33 pm »

Xw5, thank you, I think you are right. I asked him how much he would pay to fire somebody - I thought closer to 3 months but he was pretty convincing. There appears to be a big difference between how it works in the U.S. Vs here in the UK.

Midsstudent · « **Reply #266 on:** 11 May 2015, 10:00:53 pm »

I have a regular arrangement for this year and he pays for 3 bookings in advance at a time because I offer him a slightly discounted rate. I think that's different though because it's still just escort bookings.

Though I'd be very happy if he extends beyond the 12 agreed. He's easy and I like the bulk payments.

Naked Chef · « **Reply #267 on:** 11 May 2015, 10:22:48 pm »

So how exactly should it work? Make them pay x amount in advance or pay by session like escort bookings? I am not really sure of the rules for this but it is another way to make bookings, both social and intimate, for an agreed price. Or do you go about it completely different to an escort booking?? Ie, no hourly rate?

Very confused :-S surely these people should just book an escort?

amy · « **Reply #268 on:** 11 May 2015, 10:40:50 pm »

Quote from: Naked Chef on 11 May 2015, 10:22:48 pm

So how exactly should it work? Make them pay x amount in advance or pay by session like escort bookings? I am not really sure of the rules for this but it is another way to make bookings, both social and intimate, for an agreed price. Or do you go about it completely different to an escort booking?? Ie, no hourly rate?

Very confused :-S surely these people should just book an escort?

Yes they should, but it's basically punters who don't want to admit they're punters punting prostitutes who don't want to call themselves prostitutes, and as tedious, time consuming and annoying as that sounds to those of us who are used to 'put up straightforward ad-phone call-booking-take money to bank', rinse and repeat.

Vagueness is the order of the day, just in case some poor lamb's delicate sensibilities are affronted despite the fact that it's a crap earner pro rata (stating 1 hour = ?X is far quicker) and the lack of boundaries means confusion reigns supreme when it comes to things like what they're actually getting for their money. Fuck that noise

.

And (following my mistake when merging the new posts in earlier) it's back in Off Topic where it belongs. If anybody else wants to quote five year old posts, can you please take the links out?

Sabrinavanessa · « **Reply #269 on:** 11 May 2015, 10:46:51 pm »

You want a minimum amount per month and a maximum number of appointments 2 per week in this case paid for according to an hourly rate. Texting only relating to appointments, no calling currently paid as you go. I am thinking of whether I can improve on this. The minimum equals what I earn in a day times 2 per week. So, I dedicate two days per week to my SD, which means I can study, work on other business or do more SW on the other days. We have been doing it for 2 months and it has been great for both of us.

See also the main SAAFE.info site for more Support And Advice For Escorts

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