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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: ClientEye on 25 August 2018, 07:47:06 pm
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"Client Eye" is now available on the android playstore it enables users to view and make reports on Timewasters/Call-SMS Pest/Abusive/No Shows together with report description & location. ( IOS coming soon )
Information below from the play store description.
The Client Eye app is a free safety scheme for workers.
We improve the safety of workers by bringing workers together to share information about potential Timewasters, Call or Text pests, Abusive communication & No Shows.
Our app will display a notification on screen each time you receive a call or SMS, if the incomming number appears in our database we will alert you and show you any report description and location.
All received reports are displayed anonymously and are the view and comments of the original poster.
Once installed please use the anonymous bulk report feature and report all your Timewasters, Call or Text pests, Abusive communication & No Shows, so others app users can be notified instantly when they receive a call or text
"Client Eye" v1.7 has been fully rolled out.
(Users using v1.5 will need to update to v1.7 in order to enable the new reporting options)
Apps should auto update once a day ( depending on your phone settings ) but you can force an update by visiting the playstore searching for "Client Eye" and updating manually
Updates Include:
Manual search feature.
Single and bulk reporting options combined into one page with single or multiple location options.
Report type options available upon "report" selection.
Removed the need for the IMEI to be collected when reporting for more anonymity.
Added the ability to view, report & search any international numbers for escorts who tour or are based outside of the UK.
An IOS version of the app is now in development which is estimated to be available in approx 4-5 weeks.
See twitter.com/clienteyeapp or facebook.com/clienteyeapp for updates
Please message us at clienteyeuk@gmail.com if you have any issues with the app and need any technical help.
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...I've had the app developed so it shares nothing from any device unless a report is made, only then is information collected and sent securely via https to a secure database...
I have Client Eye on my phone. But I just had a call from a prospective punter whose number has an alert both on SAAFE and on NUM but not in Client Eye. ("We have 0 reports on 12345 678910" was the feedback from CE). Just a heads up that we should not rely on CE completely for safety alerts. (Not that you have said that we should, mind).
I have since completed a CE report against the individual concerned.
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Thanks for doing the report.
The app does things in a slightly different way with the ability to bulk report all your stored timewasters no shows ect with just a few clicks, i would never recommend only 1 source for reports as all platforms have their own databases. CE will have the smallest database at the moment as its just started but it has a big opportunity to grow quickly if users bulk report.
I've posted previously that i had 270 timewasters stored in my phone and asked if that was excessive, it seams most have simular numbers, some more so. Hence CE being developed, if just a small number of users bulk reported their stored timewasters the database could grow into the 10,000's very quickly. x
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The android Client Eye v1.5 update
Included a "report link" to the "View report" page
Made some changes to the "Bulk Report" feature
Duplicated reports about the same number from the same user are now combined.
An ios version is yet to be released but funds are being raised via crowdfunder to help its development.
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Hmm. Just downloaded onto my HTC U11. Installed fine but has the following issues:
Asks for permissions every time you open it
Takes over the entire screen
After reporting a number, the app force closes
On the "Texts" tab, just displays numbers rather than the contact name
After my second report, the app force closed and my phone is now trapped in an endless reboot cycle - will have to do a hard reset by the looks of things, oh joy.
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Hmm. Just downloaded onto my HTC U11. Installed fine but has the following issues:
Asks for permissions every time you open it
Takes over the entire screen
After reporting a number, the app force closes
On the "Texts" tab, just displays numbers rather than the contact name
After my second report, the app force closed and my phone is now trapped in an endless reboot cycle - will have to do a hard reset by the looks of things, oh joy.
Asks for permissions every time you open it
That would indicate that your phone isnt remembering the permissions already given as the app only requests once in normal operation and your device should remember.
After reporting a number, the app force closes
Force close ( crash) reports will be looked at via our developer account to look for any operational issues ( none have been previously reported )
On the "Texts" tab, just displays numbers rather than the contact name
Its designed that way are different users will store a number with different names.
After my second report, the app force closed and my phone is now trapped in an endless reboot cycle - will have to do a hard reset by the looks of things
This does sound more like a device issue but again crash reports will be looked at. Thanks
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TBF, I've had issues in the past with HTC phones playing about with apps, I think it's usually because HTC has their own brand "Sense" UI installed and this seems to cause conflicts.
It does sound a great concept and I'd really like to use it. If I get time I will try installing it on a different handset.
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Just a quick update. I've been able to install this without problems on a different phone (OnePlus 5.) This phone also uses a proprietary version of Android, but uses the Android UI - so it seems that the HTC Sense UI causes the problems.
I still don't like that it's fullscreen and that it only give the option to Exit after reporting, rather than returning to the main interface.
I'll bulk upload my extensive list of TW and ones to avoid over the next few days.
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Just a quick update. I've been able to install this without problems on a different phone (OnePlus 5.) This phone also uses a proprietary version of Android, but uses the Android UI - so it seems that the HTC Sense UI causes the problems.
I still don't like that it's fullscreen and that it only give the option to Exit after reporting, rather than returning to the main interface.
I'll bulk upload my extensive list of TW and ones to avoid over the next few days.
Thanks for the input
We will look at the Sense UI issue you raised to see if theres anything we can do to stop any future issues.
When the app is open it will be full screen however as you will have seen when running in the background its limited to a small notification when a call or sms comes through, in regards to the "Exit" button after making a report this is being adapted in our next version (v1.6).
V1.6 will make the "Exit" button return to the start of the app rather than exiting the app
An upgrade to the "Bulk report" is also being done so a report type can be chosen for each report entry, this update should be available in the next 7-10 days so may be best to wait for this update before bulk reporting so more accurate details can be entered. x
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Can it be used on an iPhone either now or in future?
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Can it be used on an iPhone either now or in future?
At the moment the app is only available for android on the Play Store "Client Eye", currently raising funds via crowdfunding to have an IOS version developed and will add to this post when thats available. x
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If the app wasn't full screen it might be more compatible with the HTC Sense UI... just a thought. (I haven't worked with android apps, only Windows ones so I'm just guessing.)
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If the app wasn't full screen it might be more compatible with the HTC Sense UI... just a thought. (I haven't worked with android apps, only Windows ones so I'm just guessing.)
I've put the issue with HTC Sence to people with more technical knowledge than myself and i'm awaiting their findings and possible fixes. :)
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I have downloaded the app and I think it's fab, but I am a little conerned about privacy.
Why does the app require your IMEI number? For those of us whose work phones are on contract this is a little alarming; if the app was compromised it means that identifying information could fall into the wrong hands.
I'm super keen on the app and I've told a lot of working friends about it, we all think its fab but many of us are concerned about this privacy issue and the risk of a breach.
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I have downloaded the app and I think it's fab, but I am a little conerned about privacy.
Why does the app require your IMEI number? For those of us whose work phones are on contract this is a little alarming; if the app was compromised it means that identifying information could fall into the wrong hands.
I'm super keen on the app and I've told a lot of working friends about it, we all think its fab but many of us are concerned about this privacy issue and the risk of a breach.
When the app was launched we needed to be able to identify a device solely INCASE someone abused the system, the imei gave us the ability to block a users access to making reports if they were found to be making repeated fake or false reports.
The imei was and is always kept private and never appears anywhere in any reports or disclossed to anyone.
We have now found another solution which will give us an installation id ( no device details needed ) instead of an imei so will be removing the need for the imei in the next version. (v1.6)
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When the app was launched we needed to be able to identify a device solely INCASE someone abused the system, the imei gave us the ability to block a users access to making reports if they were found to be making repeated fake or false reports.
The imei was and is always kept private and never appears anywhere in any reports or disclossed to anyone.
We have now found another solution which will give us an installation id ( no device details needed ) instead of an imei so will be removing the need for the imei in the next version. (v1.6)
Great news! Thank you!
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As the final touches are made to the android app and the iOS app is soon to be started its time to launch social media profiles.
Client eye information news progress and update info will be kept up to date on Facebook & Twitter.
Facebook.com/clienteyeapp
Twitter.com/clienteyeapp
If anyone needs help or information on what the Client Eye "CE" app is all about please make contact via social media.
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Just thought I'd update as I've found a partial fix for the HTC Sense UI. Basically I went into my phone settings, opened up "Installed Apps", then searched for "Sense Home" and went into it. If you scroll down there's an option called "Allow Sense to draw over other apps" (or something like that) - I've disabled that and Client Eye seems to be working fine so far. Hooray!
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Just thought I'd update as I've found a partial fix for the HTC Sense UI. Basically I went into my phone settings, opened up "Installed Apps", then searched for "Sense Home" and went into it. If you scroll down there's an option called "Allow Sense to draw over other apps" (or something like that) - I've disabled that and Client Eye seems to be working fine so far. Hooray!
In testing i had a simualr issue when DU recorder was installed on the phone, another app that draws over apps. When this was active it would crash the Client Eye app as it too needed to "draw over" the screen to show notifications.
Glad you found a fix for it though as it was something we couldnt replicate when testing for this issue. x
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Sadly after a few more calls and texts, the issue recurred with the UI crashing and sending the phone into a spasm.
Could there be an option in future to manually add or check numbers rather than it reading from the phone history? In that case I could install it on a second handset and just manually type in the phone number.
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Sadly after a few more calls and texts, the issue recurred with the UI crashing and sending the phone into a spasm.
Could there be an option in future to manually add or check numbers rather than it reading from the phone history? In that case I could install it on a second handset and just manually type in the phone number.
The next release of the app is going to have a manual search feature together with its other features.
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The next release of the app is going to have a manual search feature together with its other features.
Fantastic!
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What a great idea, well done! I think we need something a bit more detailed than true-caller. Only annoying thing is having to scroll through all my contacts to find someone to add him.
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What a great idea, well done! I think we need something a bit more detailed than true-caller. Only annoying thing is having to scroll through all my contacts to find someone to add him.
If your reporting someone you have stored already in your phone yes you'd need to scroll through the contact list to find them, however, if you have recently received a call or text then the number will appear at the top in the call logs or sms received lists making it easier to find and report.
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I downloaded the app and tried several times to report some numbers but I could not because at the end it says network error
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I downloaded the app and tried several times to report some numbers but I could not because at the end it says network error
Sent you a PM with a few questions to try track down the issue. x
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We're pushing out an update to the "Client Eye" app to v1.7.
During the update process the database will be unavailable for reporting but will still work for viewing existing reports (2500+ so far).
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Can’t wait for this to come out on iOS
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"Client Eye" v1.7 has been fully rolled out.
(Users using v1.5 will need to update to v1.7 in order to enable the new reporting options)
Apps should auto update once a day ( depending on your phone settings ) but you can force an update by visiting the playstore searching for "Client Eye" and updating manually
Updates Include:
Manual search feature.
Single and bulk reporting options combined into one page with single or multiple location options.
Report type options available upon "report" selection.
Removed the need for the IMEI to be collected when reporting for more anonymity.
Added the ability to view, report & search any international numbers for escorts who tour or are based outside of the UK.
An IOS version of the app is now in development which is estimated to be available in approx 4-5 weeks.
See twitter.com/clienteyeapp or facebook.com/clienteyeapp for updates
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Questions from a complete technophobia.
Is this being used in Republic of Ireland
If I download the app does it go through my phone and collect all the numbers and what I have named them as.
Im totally dyslexic and confuse numbers so often I have lost clients.
I would not be able to download the app onto the phone I have as too many named wrong.
I have sometimes phoned my private phone from my work phone will my private phone number show up.
Is there a best type of phone to get to use this.
I work both UK and ROI
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Questions from a complete technophobia.
Is this being used in Republic of Ireland
If I download the app does it go through my phone and collect all the numbers and what I have named them as.
Im totally dyslexic and confuse numbers so often I have lost clients.
I would not be able to download the app onto the phone I have as too many named wrong.
I have sometimes phoned my private phone from my work phone will my private phone number show up.
Is there a best type of phone to get to use this.
I work both UK and ROI
Is this being used in Republic of Ireland
It can be yes although any reports would be limited at the moment as most current users are UK based, you can report any number no matter the worldwide location.
If I download the app does it go through my phone and collect all the numbers and what I have named them as.
It displays the numbers in the app as you have stored them HOWEVER the names are never looked at further as only numbers are checked and/or reported so names don't matter.
Im totally dyslexic and confuse numbers so often I have lost clients.
With the android "ClientEye" app its simple to report numbers without needing to type any numbers as the app displays your call logs within itself, the app NEVER sends anything out of your phone unless you report a number and even then the information is limited.
I would not be able to download the app onto the phone I have as too many named wrong.
Names are not an issue as the app can only reports numbers who have called or text you.
I have sometimes phoned my private phone from my work phone will my private phone number show up.
It may show up in your call logs but as above unless you report something nothing leaves your phone.
Is there a best type of phone to get to use this.
The app is currently available on android so Samsung and the like, an iphone version is being developed and should be available in the next 4-6 weeks.
Users can instal the app in the full knowledge that NO information will ever be sent to our databases, you can view reports and you'll get notifications when someone calls or texts.
Only IF you report a number would that number & your report description ever be sent to the database. x
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I work both UK and ROI
Don't forget to check your numbers on National Ugly Mugs, POP :).
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Don't forget to check your numbers on National Ugly Mugs, POP :).
For ROI you could also look at uglymugs.ie and their reporting app
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Thanks everyone.
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Just downloaded it and I LOVE IT!
100% better than truecaller as you can select the number you want to report and a quick reason why. I'm still fiddling with it but I'm impressed such an app exists and thank whoever came up with this ingenious app :D
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Just downloaded it and I LOVE IT!
100% better than truecaller as you can select the number you want to report and a quick reason why. I'm still fiddling with it but I'm impressed such an app exists and thank whoever came up with this ingenious app :D
+1
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I installed it and am trying to report a timewaster from today.
He phoned my number and my friend and booked us both for the same time then started loads of obviously having a wank texts.
Then he cancelled 10 mins before then he started more texts and without apology for wasting time earlier sent a text saying he wanted to meet later.
Ignored then he sent more texts after.
*****
On the app on my very tiny screen there are icons and at the top Call Contact Message
1 a clock
2 a phone screen
3 the eye
4 a fist
5 a box with 3 dots
I dont want to tap the wrong thing and have him listed as violent ( is that what the fist is?) a text pest and time waster is what I want to list him as.
I love that I just have to tap view/report not put in the number myself that's so much stress off my shoulders getting the numbers in the right order kills me when reporting to uglymugs
Call Contact Message = what are they for
Thank you for your patience whoever answers I am feeling a little old and rusty 8)
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I installed it and am trying to report a timewaster from today.
He phoned my number and my friend and booked us both for the same time then started loads of obviously having a wank texts.
Then he cancelled 10 mins before then he started more texts and without apology for wasting time earlier sent a text saying he wanted to meet later.
Ignored then he sent more texts after.
*****
On the app on my very tiny screen there are icons and at the top Call Contact Message
1 a clock
2 a phone screen
3 the eye
4 a fist
5 a box with 3 dots
I dont want to tap the wrong thing and have him listed as violent ( is that what the fist is?) a text pest and time waster is what I want to list him as.
I love that I just have to tap view/report not put in the number myself that's so much stress off my shoulders getting the numbers in the right order kills me when reporting to uglymugs
Call Contact Message = what are they for
Thank you for your patience whoever answers I am feeling a little old and rusty 8)
On the app on my very tiny screen there are icons and at the top Call Contact Message
These are the different app tabs, which show your Call logs your Contacts list and your message lists
1 a clock = Timewaster
2 a phone screen = Call Text Pest
3 the eye = No Show
4 a fist = Abusive
5 a box with 3 dots = Other ( for something not covered in the previous catagories)
When you select any of the icons an explanation will appear at the bottom of the screen, if you choose the wrong one that fine just choose the correct one as nothing happens until you press the continue button at the bottom of the screen, your then taken to the page where you can enter in the location ( Town City or Area ) and a report description.
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Just downloaded it and I LOVE IT!
100% better than truecaller as you can select the number you want to report and a quick reason why. I'm still fiddling with it but I'm impressed such an app exists and thank whoever came up with this ingenious app :D
Thanks for your review of the app and your welcome ;D the app was built BY escorts FOR escorts.
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On the app on my very tiny screen there are icons and at the top Call Contact Message
These are the different app tabs, which show your Call logs your Contacts list and your message lists
1 a clock = Timewaster
2 a phone screen = Call Text Pest
3 the eye = No Show
4 a fist = Abusive
5 a box with 3 dots = Other ( for something not covered in the previous catagories)
When you select any of the icons an explanation will appear at the bottom of the screen, if you choose the wrong one that fine just choose the correct one as nothing happens until you press the continue button at the bottom of the screen, your then taken to the page where you can enter in the location ( Town City or Area ) and a report description.
8) ;D O I am showing my age :P
I am from the DONT TOUCH THAT BUTTON THE INTERNET WILL EXPLODE generation
Thank you x
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;D ;D ;D
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I reported him does it take a while for the report to go through I will check tomorrow
Emma Louise did you do the work for this app, thank you
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I've installed this.... It looks good!
I was a bit worried that it would interfere with my blocking app, which already has permissions to handle calls and texts, but there doesn't appear to be any conflict.
I like this because it doesn't upload my contacts to a public database and you don't have to wonder if saving a client as "Timewaster" will be overwritten by "Bob the Plumber" or whatever someone else has them saved as.
I also like the option to write a detailed report so that others can make their own judgement.
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I've installed this.... It looks good!
I was a bit worried that it would interfere with my blocking app, which already has permissions to handle calls and texts, but there doesn't appear to be any conflict.
I like this because it doesn't upload my contacts to a public database and you don't have to wonder if saving a client as "Timewaster" will be overwritten by "Bob the Plumber" or whatever someone else has them saved as.
I also like the option to write a detailed report so that others can make their own judgement.
Does ugly Mugs so this
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Does ugly Mugs so this
I believe they may have been refering to "Truecaller" as that uploads all your contacts ( Have replied to your PM )
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Emma Louise - does this abide by the privacy laws that recently came in? That possibly seems to have been what made TrueCaller a little useless. Hopefully not x
Also - I tour other countries. Can I log dubai and American Bad clients on there?
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Does ugly Mugs so this
No. I'm comparing to True Caller.
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Emma Louise - does this abide by the privacy laws that recently came in? That possibly seems to have been what made TrueCaller a little useless. Hopefully not x
Also - I tour other countries. Can I log dubai and American Bad clients on there?
Emma Louise - does this abide by the privacy laws that recently came in? That possibly seems to have been what made TrueCaller a little useless. Hopefully not x
If your refering to the new GDPR regulations regarding holding personal identifiable data then yes the app complies with that, we contacted the Information Commissionar helplines and explained the app to them, what the app collected in the reports and who would be reporting and they told us:
"Although the telephone number being reported may belong to someone else (Client) it can't, by itself, be used to identify someone so it can still be reported if the person whos making the report (Sexworker) has saftey information pertaining to it and does not add any other identifiable information, the person making the report (Sexworker) OWNS the data they are sharing, that can include numbers (Clients) who mave made contact with them." ( All reports are monitored by ME and my partner to ensure every report complies )
Also - I tour other countries. Can I log dubai and American Bad clients on there?
Short answer Yes.
Long answer also yes because the app stores a reported number in its database by firstly removing any spaces, brackets or plus signs so for example a number could appear on your phone as +1 (234) 567 890 but if it was reported it would appear on the database as 1234567890, when a search is made ( either when a call or text is received or manually searched), the database returns details for the last sequence of numbers and not any international code formats, another example could be that +441234567890 is reported but you receive a call from 01234567890 ( the same number but without an international code ) the database would still display the same report as the last sequence of numbers match.
Hope that helps
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Does this app compete with NUM or is the info on Client Eye given to them anyway?
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Does this app compete with NUM or is the info on Client Eye given to them anyway?
100% NOT, in no way should it ever be a competition to share information.
We would ALWAYS advise users to report to them any abuse they may encounter whilst working, they have a national presence and have helped 1000's of sex workers offering support when things go wrong, they can liase with the police and other charities to get the best help and support.
National Ugly Mugs have become aware of the "Client Eye" app and have enquired with us as to what we do, we have explained to them in detail how the app works and who its aimed at.
We are not a charity and as such have banner spaces within the app, we hope to use these spaces to freely promote sexual support service groups like National Ugly Mugs for the UK & any other National Support groups, at the moment we don't, and wouldn't use banners of theirs in our app without their permission but this is something to look at for the future.
Our banner spaces will also be used for affiliate advertising to cover operational and running costs.
The information we are given by users is done anonymously, for the more serious reports we would ALWAYS advise they report to services like National Ugly Mugs aswell.
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We have released a couple of updates to the android app in the past few days to sort out some minor things these include:
V1.7.1 - Fixing a spacing issue on notifications when a call is received
v1.7.2 - To increase our random display of banners from 5 to 15 to better allow us to promote sexual support groups and affiliates.
We do have future updates, i.e. different language support, but these are now on the back burner, we will come back to these in the future as we now turn our attention to the developement of the IOS version of the app.
Funds for the IOS app development where recently raised by supporters via crowdfunding, and our thanks go out to each and everyone who helped.
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Can I use this on a non-work phone ie use it to search numbers by inputting them?
Definitely will never work on my work phone.
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Can I use this on a non-work phone ie use it to search numbers by inputting them?
Definitely will never work on my work phone.
Yes the app has a manual search feature you could use on your other phone so you could use it that way, you would also get instant notifications for calls and texts as they come in but if used in a none "work phone" it probably wouldnt find any reports for your callers.
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Yes the app has a manual search feature you could use on your other phone so you could use it that way, you would also get instant notifications for calls and texts as they come in but if used in a none "work phone" it probably wouldnt find any reports for your callers.
Just downloaded it, it is very good.
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Just downloaded it, it is very good.
;D If you want to see how a report would display do a search for our test number of "07000111222".
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Can I use this on a non-work phone ie use it to search numbers by inputting them?
Definitely will never work on my work phone.
I should also add that when you do a manual search, if you find there are no reports on a number but you have info on the number you can still report it and it will add to the database for all users to see.
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We have been informed by a "ClientEye" user that they have made, what is shown to be a successful report but it's not being found or appearing on the database when they do a search. This is happening at the same time as others are able to report successfully without issue.
Whilst we are looking into this can we ask any users making reports, to check the "view reports" link afterwards to ensure te report appears and if not to please message us at clienteyeuk@gmail.com
We already have people looking into it and checking what may be causing the intermittent glitch.
Thanks
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Is there no contact facility on the app, Emma? Because to be honest, the talk of 'us' and the use of our forum and especially our PM system to basically promote your app and nothing else means that this account is soon going to be in the Advertiser usergroup, given the unfair advantage over others using the forum in exactly the same way.
If people are having difficulty making something work, they can also make a general post here in the thread where others who might find it helpful can see it.
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I've updated the first post to include an email address.
If you feel it best to move the username to the Advertiser usergroup please do so as i can see this taking up more and more of my time as the app is used more and more. x
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We have been informed by a "ClientEye" user that they have made, what is shown to be a successful report but it's not being found or appearing on the database when they do a search. This is happening at the same time as others are able to report successfully without issue.
Whilst we are looking into this can we ask any users making reports, to check the "view reports" link afterwards to ensure te report appears and if not to please message us at clienteyeuk@gmail.com
We already have people looking into it and checking what may be causing the intermittent glitch.
Thanks
Is this me or someone else.
I tried again to report today but it is returning me to the report page instead of the Thank you page.
Mine does not show up a successful report.
My phone is very old and a tiny screen
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No it was another user, from what you have previously mentioned, when you click back to remove the keyboard on screen your phone must be going back in the menu of the app too far, and instead of just closing the keyboard down its then going back a page.
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Every time I use this it's saying "reporting error" or "network invaluable". Have been trying for a few weeks to make reports on no shows...
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I've noticed I can't make reports into the app on my other phone (as posted above my sex work phone won't take it, so I have it on my other phone) - and was told I can still add, report, check by inputting numbers manually. This did seem to work at first, but now it's only useful for calls that phone actually receives. I want to report some harassers but cannot.
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Every time I use this it's saying "reporting error" or "network invaluable". Have been trying for a few weeks to make reports on no shows...
We are looking into this as "network unavailable" usually means the device doesnt have an internet connection to send details to the database
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I've noticed I can't make reports into the app on my other phone (as posted above my sex work phone won't take it, so I have it on my other phone) - and was told I can still add, report, check by inputting numbers manually. This did seem to work at first, but now it's only useful for calls that phone actually receives. I want to report some harassers but cannot.
Ensure you have the latest version of the app ( uninstall firt then reinstall from the play store ) as older versions had a manual reporting error, the latest version allows you to search for a number see results and then click +REPORT next to it to make a report.
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Every time I use this it's saying "reporting error" or "network invaluable". Have been trying for a few weeks to make reports on no shows...
You may benefit from uninstalling and redownloading to ensure you have the latest version ( your error message is an old version of error )
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Every time I use this it's saying "reporting error" or "network invaluable". Have been trying for a few weeks to make reports on no shows...
I noticed I'm getting the "reporting error" message when my report has punctuation in it, maybe worth trying a report with just letters and spaces to see if it's the same for you?
I also have a minor issue that to move from the location to report text boxes I need to click on the ad banner and then hit back to get rid of the keyboard, and do the same to hit the button to submit the report. This is on all 3 of my phones (Google Pixel, Nokia 3.1 & Samsung Jsomething)
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I noticed I'm getting the "reporting error" message when my report has punctuation in it, maybe worth trying a report with just letters and spaces to see if it's the same for you?
I also have a minor issue that to move from the location to report text boxes I need to click on the ad banner and then hit back to get rid of the keyboard, and do the same to hit the button to submit the report. This is on all 3 of my phones (Google Pixel, Nokia 3.1 & Samsung Jsomething)
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If you have the latest version there is a keyboard icon on the reporting page, next to the location and description fields, press that and the keyboard will disappear allowing you to access the other sections ( was put in place as some phone screen sizes can adapt the keyboard size )
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If you have the latest version there is a keyboard icon on the reporting page, next to the location and description fields, press that and the keyboard will disappear allowing you to access the other sections ( was put in place as some phone screen sizes can adapt the keyboard size )
My apologies, you're quite right! I'm not sure how I missed that, thanks
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Android version 1.7.9 has is now available as is our new website www.clienteye.app
Updates include:
App Permissions - now changed so user can choose to allow or disallow in each app section
Area Reporting - for users who dont have a number to report or meet in sauna or street, support services can also be displayed here.
Call/SMS live notifications - These are by default now off and can be switched on by using the notification bell icon on top of screen
Reporting Changes
When a user makes a report they will be shown our banner, this links to our website pages containing support links for NationalUglyMugs, SWOP-USA, flashHivTest & Saafe
Our FREE app banners, link through to services who have endorsed clienteye, these include SWOP-Behind bars who operate the US national helpline and flashHivTest who offer Hiv tests by post in the UK, these links will always be FREE and offered to National groups.
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Any news on when the IOS version will be available?
Sounds very useful. X
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Any news on when the IOS version will be available?
Sounds very useful. X
Shoud have the first (private) test on 30/11/2018, will be tested for a few weeks with a few users and if all goes well should be publicly released by new year.
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Shoud have the first (private) test on 30/11/2018, will be tested for a few weeks with a few users and if all goes well should be publicly released by new year.
Fantastic.
Thanks for replying. X
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You may benefit from uninstalling and redownloading to ensure you have the latest version ( your error message is an old version of error )
thanks have already done so & the network unavailable happens when I'm connected to the wifi...I'll double check my settings.
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thanks have already done so & the network unavailable happens when I'm connected to the wifi...I'll double check my settings.
Its a hard one to diagnose as the internet error notification has to be users internet connection or a database issue at our end, the database one we can check and confirm is working as normal the other we cannot. >:(
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We received an update from the Play Store a few days ago with a change in their policy from Jan/Feb 2018.
This change restricts ALL apps that makes use of Call log and SMS log permissions, unfortunately this includes ClientEye :( . Because of this change in policy we will soon be forced to update our play store listing to a "ClientEye Lite" version without the Call/SMS log and live notification features.
If you wish to avoid this forced "Lite" version update and keep all the current app features you can uninstall the Play store listing of ClientEye & download the unaltered full version from our website www.clienteye.app. You will need to & allow instals from "Other sources".
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Can you explain in layman's terms?
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Can you explain in layman's terms?
Play store are soon going to restrict the ability of ALL apps that read incomming call/sms numbers, we use these to show notifications. Because of this restriction we will have to release an app version without this feature in order to comply and stay on play store.
HOWEVER if the current app is downloaded from our website (rather than Play Store) it won't be restricted when the changes eventually happen
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Can you explain in layman's terms?
Basically Google Play won't want to have apps which invade privacy.
CE will make a less useful, restricted app to comply with Google Play.
CE will have the full unrestricted app available on their own web site.
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Play store are soon going to restrict the ability of ALL apps that read incomming call/sms numbers, we use these to show notifications. Because of this restriction we will have to release an app version without this feature in order to comply and stay on play store.
HOWEVER if the current app is downloaded from our website (rather than Play Store) it won't be restricted when the changes eventually happen
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Thanks. So the .apk will still be downloadable? Will it have access to the database of what users have already uploaded?
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Thanks. So the .apk will still be downloadable? Will it have access to the database of what users have already uploaded?
After the forced changes if downloaded from our website www.clienteye.app you'll lose no features.
If downloaded from the playstore it will still have access to the database and the numbers already reported, we just cant display live notifications to you or show you your call/sms lists in the app. Contact list / Manual searches and reporting will still be available.
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ClientEye update regarding numbers reported on saafe that end ** (2500+ in past 5 years)
This update has now been activated.
If a client calls or sends a message & theres an EXACT (example: 07123456789) match on the clienteye database, a report will show as normal.
If there is a PARTIAL match on saafe (example: 071234567**) a report will show as follows
"A partial number match may exist for this number.
Please search www.saafe.info/main (replacing last 2 digits with ** or xx) for more report details.".
All these changes are background ones so no app update is required it will just work :)
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Available on iPhones when?
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Its getting close as its in the testing phase, our twitter shows a video of the ios app
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I think it’s great.
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ClientEye update regarding numbers reported on saafe that end ** (2500+ in past 5 years)
This update has now been activated.
If a client calls or sends a message & theres an EXACT (example: 07123456789) match on the clienteye database, a report will show as normal.
If there is a PARTIAL match on saafe (example: 071234567**) a report will show as follows
"A partial number match may exist for this number.
Please search www.saafe.info/main (replacing last 2 digits with ** or xx) for more report details.".
All these changes are background ones so no app update is required it will just work :)
I got this message today when I ran a potential clients number through client eye, I checked on SAAFE but couldn't find the report. I cancelled the booking as I felt a bit nervous just in case the was a warning that I couldn't find.
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I got this message today when I ran a potential clients number through client eye, I checked on SAAFE but couldn't find the report. I cancelled the booking as I felt a bit nervous just in case the was a warning that I couldn't find.
90% of the numbers reported on saafe in the last 5 years follow the same format for seaching 071234567** or 071234567XX the other 10% may be formatted slightly differently i.e. 07123 4567** or +4471234567**
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90% of the numbers reported on saafe in the last 5 years follow the same format for seaching 071234567** or 071234567XX the other 10% may be formatted slightly differently i.e. 07123 4567** or +4471234567**
Is there a reason why Saafe makes you ommit the last two numbers? Just asking. It’s just more and more places these days are letting you put the whole number in.
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Is there a reason why Saafe makes you ommit the last two numbers? Just asking. It’s just more and more places these days are letting you put the whole number in.
Why would this be anything to do with the product being advertised on this thread, or those advertising it?
The answer is data protection law as it relates to publishing identifying information, incidentally. The same reason as Ugly Mugs requires you to have an actual number to check, rather than allowing you to pore over lists of those which have been reported :).
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The answer is data protection law as it relates to publishing identifying information, incidentally. The same reason as Ugly Mugs requires you to have an actual number to check, rather than allowing you to pore over lists of those which have been reported :).
Unaware of any lists that allow users to "Pore" through them, ClientEye certainly does not.
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Unaware of any lists that allow users to "Pore" through them, ClientEye certainly does not.
I never said it did and I don't much care one way or the other; I was answering the previous poster's question. 'Pore' (verb) just means to closely examine something, btw.
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I was also clarifying to others who may have taken other meaning from your comments, and i fully understand the meanings of words. Thank you
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Our ClientEye IOS release v1.0.3 has now been accepted by Apple and available to all iPhone users on the App Store ;D
The Android release v.1.7.15 has also been released and available on the Play Store ;D
Our databases now hold over 10,000+ reports left by 1000's of users (Mostly in the UK)
Our app(s) manual search feature will also show a warning for partial saafe reported number matches if they have been reported in the past 5 years.
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I have downloaded the app and I think it's fab, but I am a little conerned about privacy.
Why does the app require your IMEI number? For those of us whose work phones are on contract this is a little alarming; if the app was compromised it means that identifying information could fall into the wrong hands.
I'm super keen on the app and I've told a lot of working friends about it, we all think its fab but many of us are concerned about this privacy issue and the risk of a breach.
Id love to use the app but would like tbe answer to this first as im on contract also x
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Id love to use the app but would like tbe answer to this first as im on contract also x
It doesn't log the IMEI ...... The first release of the android app did but this was soon removed due to security concerns.
All reports are 100% anonymous and never collects any information that can identify any user.
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can i just say again how invaluable this app has been so far . and the more we use it the more valuable it becomes Thanks Emma , and all the SW who take time and effort to log it makes out job a little safer every day
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Me too, Emma. This app has made me feel like I've got another little piece of ammunition to protect myself against idiots that try to make my life a misery. Thank you for this! Great service.
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can i just say again how invaluable this app has been so far . and the more we use it the more valuable it becomes Thanks Emma , and all the SW who take time and effort to log it makes out job a little safer every day
Me too, Emma. This app has made me feel like I've got another little piece of ammunition to protect myself against idiots that try to make my life a misery. Thank you for this! Great service.
We currently get approx 50-100 new reports every day (90% of which are UK Based) from the minor to the very dangerous, its an extra tool to keep us all safe sharing the knowledge of 1000's of sexworkers.
I too have benefited from reading reports from people i don't know using the app, we have a shared resource & we all benefit.
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Thankyou Emma. I will download the app and add my bad client list as soon as i get chance x
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How do users become verified on the app?
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How do users become verified on the app?
When viewing reports you'll see a verification shield icon at the very top click that and it will take you too the verification pages .... Emma
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Hi Emma
I have the app on my android phone and when I click the shield it takes me to your twitter page x
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This app has been an absolute lifesaver, I've only had it around a month but its already saved me from 1 abusive client and countless time wasters so far
Every working girl NEEDS this in her life!
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This app has been an absolute lifesaver, I've only had it around a month but its already saved me from 1 abusive client and countless time wasters so far
Every working girl NEEDS this in her life!
Me too, I've had a couple flag up, and I've added quite a few as well. Great app.
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Why can't I find Client Eye on Playstore?
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Is the app still available? I cant seem to find it
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Is the app still available? I cant seem to find it
Me either and since there's been no response from them I think we can safely say its as dead as a dodo.
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I downloaded it from their website clienteye.app
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Me either and since there's been no response from them I think we can safely say its as dead as a dodo.
Apoligise for the delay in replying, sometimes life takes over.
The Full version of the app is still available to download from the our website, a Client Eye Lite version has been worked on in the past few weeks and will be back on the playstore in the next few days.
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Client Eye Lite is now available on the Android playstore
Client Eye Full android version without restrictions is still available on our website
Client Eye IOS is available on the App Store
All versions and links can be found on our website www.clienteye.app
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As per the title - I can’t get the app to open, anyone else having problems?
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As per the title - I can’t get the app to open, anyone else having problems?
No problems here. Probably best to contact the OP via Twitter.
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Sorry for the dumb question. How does it work. I have it downloaded on my iphone. If i want to check a number i need to enter it manually in the app or does it come up as a warning automatically if its been reported.
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If i want to check a number i need to enter it manually in the app...
Yes. There is a search function.
...or does it come up as a warning automatically if its been reported.
If the number contacts your number, yes.
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If the number contacts your number, yes.
If a flagged number calls on my phone that has client eye it automatically comes up as reported you mean?
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If a flagged number calls on my phone that has client eye it automatically comes up as reported you mean?
Yes. The same goes for text messages from reported numbers.
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Yes. The same goes for text messages from reported numbers.
Ok thank you x
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If a flagged number calls on my phone that has client eye it automatically comes up as reported you mean?
But thats only if you have enabled notifications. I use Android but sadly I cant seem to get notifications to work for me
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This app really needs to be promoted more. I found it via Twitter.
I used safe religiously whilst in a new area last week and had I known about clienteye I would have saved myself time wasters, possible abusers and time in manually searching.
It took a bit of working out but to get the full live version for Android you need to press the notification bell on the lite version and it gives you a link to download the full. This is where you get live notifications through.
Honestly ladies this has helped me find some real dodgy clients that have not been reported on safe I can not recommend it enough.
Is there a way to highlight this thread on saafe somewhere so it’s easily seen? I had to manually search clienteye to find it or am I just blind? Lol
Stay saafe girls xx
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Hi everyone,
So sorry if this is the wrong place for this....
Basically I have a problem with my new hoe phone (phoene haha) where when I open client eye, I get a message that it's stopped working. Does anyone else have experience with this issue?
Thank you! x
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Yes, and I posted in the Client Eye thread in the Spamming section. It's failed me on both HTC M8 and HTC U10. I believe it's due to the proprietary HTC UI, which Client Eye tries to draw over the top of. I tried turning off various HTC inbuilt functions, but haven't found a fix yet (and neither has the developer)
It's a shame cos I love HTC phones (despite the crap battery life.) I've installed ClientEye successfully on my personal phone, which is a OnePlus, but I need a work phone that does wifi calling, and I've tried Nokia and it was shit. Samsubg I hate the build quality.
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Yes, and I posted in the Client Eye thread in the Spamming section.
Where this now is. Please keep the main board for sex work topics :)
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This app really needs to be promoted more. I found it via Twitter.
I used safe religiously whilst in a new area last week and had I known about clienteye I would have saved myself time wasters, possible abusers and time in manually searching.
It took a bit of working out but to get the full live version for Android you need to press the notification bell on the lite version and it gives you a link to download the full. This is where you get live notifications through.
Honestly ladies this has helped me find some real dodgy clients that have not been reported on safe I can not recommend it enough.
Is there a way to highlight this thread on saafe somewhere so it’s easily seen? I had to manually search clienteye to find it or am I just blind? Lol
Stay saafe girls xx
All mentions of ClientEye outside of this thread are either moved to this thread or redacted, that will be the reason why any searches made on saafe for clienteye will return limited results.
Hi everyone,
So sorry if this is the wrong place for this....
Basically I have a problem with my new hoe phone (phoene haha) where when I open client eye, I get a message that it's stopped working. Does anyone else have experience with this issue?
Thank you! x
As VoluptuousCurves has mentioned this is possibly down to your phones UI system.
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I did upload this and it's interesting how the guys names are coming up different to how I added them in my contacts. Many are already blocked on true caller.
Does this mean they are previously added by another escort who used a alternative name for them ?
Some have surnames also
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I did upload this and it's interesting how the guys names are coming up different to how I added them in my contacts. Many are already blocked on true caller.
Does this mean they are previously added by another escort who used a alternative name for them ?
Some have surnames also
ClientEye doesn't collect any name information or how you may have them stored, can only assume you are referring to truecaller which collects your full contact list.
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Finally downloaded this app. So glad I have. Brilliant app.
Just to check I have the same one / version others have - it shows in English & Spanish writing throughout the app?
Going to add timewasters from touring other countries too. Finally somewhere can use as a resource for worldwide!
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Finally downloaded this app. So glad I have. Brilliant app.
Just to check I have the same one / version others have - it shows in English & Spanish writing throughout the app?
Going to add timewasters from touring other countries too. Finally somewhere can use as a resource for worldwide!
Thats the correct one.
We have 2 android versions "Lite" on the playstore and "Full" available on our website, we also have an IOS version on the app store.
Glad to have you with us x
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@ Client Eye
Have you considered messaging providors on AW etc that don’t even know of this forum or check it to let them know that your service is out there? No girls I know have heard of it and a lot of my timewasters aren’t logged in there but when I message other girls warning them they say yes he’s a serial timewaster for them also. Yet would never know to log it on your site / app
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I'm pretty sure that spamming people on Adultwork to promote something separate from their site is against the rules, K212.
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I'm pretty sure that spamming people on Adultwork to promote something separate from their site is against the rules, K212.
Ahhh
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@ Client Eye
Have you considered messaging providors on AW etc that don’t even know of this forum or check it to let them know that your service is out there? No girls I know have heard of it and a lot of my timewasters aren’t logged in there but when I message other girls warning them they say yes he’s a serial timewaster for them also. Yet would never know to log it on your site / app
Currently theres no real advertising opportunities that target just sexworkers so advertsing of the app is only by word of mouth, recomendation & via twitter.
We are a primarily a safety app but one that needs to cover our costs ( we are not charity based) , because of this we are "Advertisers" and to stay within the forum rules we are limited to only posting within the forum "Spamming sections".
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I use NUM and this site to check for warnings and luckily have never had a bad experience. But I'm a bit worried that I might be missing warnings which are being submitted to Client Eye as I'm a bit old school and believe you need an app for this.
Should we all be getting Client Eye as well as checking NUM and Saafe?
Sorry if this is a really basic question but I do feel that warnings should be in one or two places rather than spread out across different apps and websites that some people may not know about or be able to access.
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As with everything else in sex work, there's no 'should' about it and everybody needs to do as they see fit. I agree completely that spreading warnings too thinly means fewer people will see them, but this app apparently allows warnings that we wouldn't here (and that wouldn't be appropriate for Ugly Mugs - one off no shows that could have a perfectly reasonable explanation, for example) so it's entirely up to you.
They don't need another advertising thread however, so merged :).
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Cheers Amy :)
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Whilst its true that warnings would be best if they where all in one place, the current systems have limitations. NUM is great for the more serious reports and saafe is great for the less serious, however if a client had what seamed to be a very reasonable reason for cancellation they wouldn't be reported anywhere, our system allows these to appear as it COULD show a pattern if numerious workers report the same client using the same reason for cancellation.
A client may use "Car broke down" reason once with you and therfore never be reported, but MAY use it 5 times with different workers, our systems would show this pattern.
Our apps receive an average of 1200 reports per month, from the no shows to the abusive and we alert you if a number thats calling you may have a partial number match to a number reported on saafe so nothing is missed.
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...A client may use "Car broke down" reason once with you and therfore never be reported, but MAY use it 5 times with different workers, our systems would show this pattern...
Yes, personally, I always give a potential punter with a single "no-show" warning on Client Eye a chance. So do many other WGs (like those in the Scotland Warnings WhatsApp group who are finding CE to be a MASSIVE help in our screening).
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...we alert you if a number thats calling you may have a partial number match to a number reported on saafe so nothing is missed.
You don't get the detail of the "offence" for which the number was reported, but it is no less a HUGE help for screening, IMO. (I always look up the number on SAAFE and then fill in the details of the misdemeanour on the app, making it clear that I am merely reporting what it says on SAAFE).
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Time for an update as to how we are doing:
We have been running for 1 year now and in that time we have grown alot, some stats listed below:
4500+ users
18,500+ reports
85% UK reporting
170,000 manual searches (Since March '19)
1 Million auto notifications (report checks) served
We are currently developing the following updates to our apps.
We have always been fustrated at not being to help users in a more direct way so are developing a messaging ticket system, this can be accessed anonymously within the app by users to request app support.
This update will also give users the (future) ability to reach out to sexworker outreach programs & other support services directly, we have already started talking to relevant decrim supporting groups.
Our next steps
We have developed a website plugin for report searching that can be utilised by 3rd party websites and are in talks with various sexworker related advertising websites about its free inclusion.
It's been a busy year .... Emma
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i'm setting up a new phone & the app is showing as client eye lite, so it's changed name?
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i'm setting up a new phone & the app is showing as client eye lite, so it's changed name?
There are 3 versions
IOS is ClientEye
Android on the play store is ClientEye Lite (due to recent google restrictions )
Android from our website is ClientEye Full (which does not have any of the google restrictions and allows live call/sms checking )
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There are 3 versions
IOS is ClientEye
Android on the play store is ClientEye Lite (due to recent google restrictions )
Android from our website is ClientEye Full (which does not have any of the google restrictions and allows live call/sms checking )
Emma, I haven’t had a chance to trial the app on new android phone, would you suggest to stick to only lite or full version of the app as opposed to having both? I wasn’t really aware of the differences between them till now. Sorry if this has already been asked. X
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Emma, I haven’t had a chance to trial the app on new android phone, would you suggest to stick to only lite or full version of the app as opposed to having both? I wasn’t really aware of the differences between them till now. Sorry if this has already been asked. X
Android Full can check & give all the live call/sms notifications, the Lite version is restricted from doing so because of a change in the Google Play store policies.
Both versions allow manual report searching so its probably better for a user to choose one or the other rather than both at the same time.
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Android Full can check & give all the live call/sms notifications, the Lite version is restricted from doing so because of a change in the Google Play store policies.
Both versions allow manual report searching so its probably better for a user to choose one or the other rather than both at the same time.
Thanks! :)
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Android Full can check & give all the live call/sms notifications, the Lite version is restricted from doing so because of a change in the Google Play store policies.
Both versions allow manual report searching so its probably better for a user to choose one or the other rather than both at the same time.
Hi Emma,
I have the full version of CE but I'm not getting any pop up's when someone calls me. I've tapped the bell icon and tried the "switch" option both ways but nothing changes. I've also uninstalled and reinstalled the app to no avail.
I'm using a Google Pixel 3 running Android v9 which is fully up to date.
Is there anything else you can advise I try?
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Is there anything else you can advise I try?
Are there no contact details/FAQs on their site, PF? It might be quicker if you can ask specific questions directly rather than post here?
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I have the full version of CE but I'm not getting any pop up's when someone calls me. I've tapped the bell icon and tried the "switch" option both ways but nothing changes. I've also uninstalled and reinstalled the app to no avail.
We have an FAQ (recently updated) on our website which may answer this question for you, failing that you can contact us using the contact form there or on twitter @ClientEyeApp.
The next update of the apps will include a ticket support section to make it easier for users to request help with any issues.
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Hi ClientEye, saw your asking of donations on banner on your app. But takes me to a crowd funder page - where can only pay by card! Is there a Paypal account or anything a bit more discreet can donate by? Prefer not to use bank cards for privacy reasons and really would like to donate. Your apps been so helpful x
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Hi ClientEye, saw your asking for donations on a banner on your app but takes to a crowd funder page to make donation where can only pay by card payment. Is there a Paypal account or anything can donate by? Prefer not to use bank card for privacy reasons and really would like to donate as your apps been so valuable. Thanks x
Thank you for your offer to help with our next update, we do have a paypal account so could accept a donation that way too our paypal email address is contact@clienteye.app x
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Just want to say thanks for a great app got full version on my Samsung work phone, really helpful ,👍👍
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Just want to say thanks for a great app got full version on my Samsung work phone, really helpful ,👍👍
Thank you for using it and informing other users of your timewasters.
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21,500 reports (2000+ in the past month) & 5500 users all helping each other :)
We've now raised all the funds via our crowdfunder for the next app updates, these updates will allow users to raise support tickets anonymously and allow us to reply, it will also give us the future ability for support services to reply to any anonymous request.
Thank you to everyone who donated.
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Why are agencies advertising on it? :-(
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Why are agencies advertising on it? :-(
They are advertising themselves in regards to offering agency employment (Not client advertising)
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They are advertising themselves in regards to offering agency employment (Not client advertising)
So is the app just for independent working girls?
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So is the app just for independent working girls?
Ours apps are for all sexworkers which includes independent, street or agency workers. Without gender restriction.
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Could we please add insults to the reports? :angel:
I included 'tosser' in my report and it was censored with '***'.
Why not allow a bit of profanities?... :)
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Could we please add insults to the reports? :angel:
I included 'tosser' in my report and it was censored with '***'.
Why not allow a bit of profanities?... :)
We are forced to auto censor swear words due to apple restrictions, if we kept them in Apple could remove our apps from their app stores
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We are forced to auto censor swear words due to apple restrictions, if we kept them in Apple could remove our apps from their app stores
Thanks for replying, Emma.
Well, that's a shame. *** Apple!... ;D
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I can’t even write the word cock 😂
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I can’t even write the word cock
I guess we just have to get more creative. :D I just saw a report calling someone 'a wet wipe' - nice one.
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I guess we just have to get more creative. :D I just saw a report calling someone 'a wet wipe' - nice one.
code words? Douche? Bell end? imbecile? clown? stinker? sad sack? ;D
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code words? Douche? Bell end? imbecile? clown? stinker? sad sack? ;D
Love your list! :D
Yes, a universal code word for 'twat' would be good. 'Twerp' perhaps?
Otherwise, it could be customised to a particular offender - in some cases 'douche alert' would be more suitable than 'swine!'. :D
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We received a report once using "Willy Wonker on the phone" instead of on Wanking ........ ;D
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This app has saved me, went on it and reported 30+ numbers that have tried to scam me, harassed me or wasted my time on purpose in the past year. Felt so good to warn others, I hope everyone uses it!
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This app has saved me, went on it and reported 30+ numbers that have tried to scam me, harassed me or wasted my time on purpose in the past year. Felt so good to warn others, I hope everyone uses it!
I'm always grateful when I see that someone took their time to post a warning. Great app!
Recently I've noticed that sometimes instead of a warning there is a note:
'Please use caution when dealing with this client.
Patreon supporters will soon be able to access Email and Username searching. AD FREE.'
Does this note replace an actual warning?
Also, if I supported you via Patreon, will you be able to see my Patreon email or any other details?
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I'm always grateful when I see that someone took their time to post a warning. Great app!
Recently I've noticed that sometimes instead of a warning there is a note:
'Please use caution when dealing with this client.
Patreon supporters will soon be able to access Email and Username searching. AD FREE.'
Does this note replace an actual warning?
This default message appears when a user has reported a number but not entered in a description, we have default text instead of leaving the section blank
Also, if I supported you via Patreon, will you be able to see my Patreon email or any other details?
We would see the email address you had used in order to sign up for Patreon (nobody else would) and any fake name/username you may have entered. We never email anyone about anything as we understand anonymity in this profession and only ever use their internal messaging system or Tier posts to inform Patreons of any important updates.
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Thanks for explaining, Emma!
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Grateful for this app as I had a call from someone reported 18 times.....a confused call came through then blocked him. Hope everyone keeps reporting
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My friend's phone shows if a caller has a report against them but mine does not.
I have the full app, an android phone but I have to manually input numbers to see if there is a report.
Do others have this problem?
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Yes I do. I think it's because I have another number app (Mr Number) on my phone. So I have to open the CE app and check each number. Bit of a pain in the bum, but I not deleting my other app.
I used to have a call blocker app but since my phone can block numbers and texts, I deleted the app.
It's annoying as you don't know a real TW until after the appointment is made (gut instinct and screening aside).
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My friend's phone shows if a caller has a report against them but mine does not.
I have the full app, an android phone but I have to manually input numbers to see if there is a report.
Do others have this problem?
There are various reasons as to why notifications may not appear when a call arrives.
Any user using Android Lite, this feature is not available due to google restrictions
If using android FULL some newer phones use a slightly different call routing so CE is not triggered, our next FULL update (FEB '20) fixes this.
Any user using iOS the ensure you enable call blocking and identification for CE, Settings/Call blocking & Identification/ Enable Client Eye option
Yes I do. I think it's because I have another number app (Mr Number) on my phone. So I have to open the CE app and check each number. Bit of a pain in the bum, but I not deleting my other app.
Mr Number and Truecaller when installing change the phones DEFAULT call handler so CE never sees the call coming in, it's looking at the normal android default call handler, if either of these is installed CE will be limited to manually checking only.
I used to have a call blocker app but since my phone can block numbers and texts, I deleted the app.
It's annoying as you don't know a real TW until after the appointment is made (gut instinct and screening aside).
Your correct, timewasters only become timewasters to you after an appointment has been made, CE displays if the client has any previous history so you're better informed, it's ultimately your decision.
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I've reported the wrong number by mistake with my happy trigger finger!
Can it be removed?
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I've noticed the sms reports aren't coming up with a name to their number, any advice why this could be?
Btw apart from this glitch, I'm finding this app brilliant and can't thank Emma enough ;D
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I've reported the wrong number by mistake with my happy trigger finger!
Can it be removed?
Until our new update is released the way to do it is to search for and report 07123456789 and enter the number you want to be removed in the description, when we check and see this we can check and remove.
I've noticed the sms reports aren't coming up with a name to their number, any advice why this could be?
Btw apart from this glitch, I'm finding this app brilliant and can't thank Emma enough ;D
That's something I've never actually realized, or can't remember a valid reason why it doesn't .... Will give it some thought and get back to you.
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Until our new update is released the way to do it is to search for and report 07123456789 and enter the number you want to be removed in the description, when we check and see this we can check and remove.
I've done that Emma, thanks.
Your app is OUTSTANDING. Thank you.
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I've done that Emma, thanks.
Your app is OUTSTANDING. Thank you.
Received and removed. The next update to app you'll be able to request report removal via the support ticketing system aswell as other things ;D
It's only "OUTSTANDING" because of users like yourself who keep reporting and sharing the daily issues x
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That's something I've never actually realized, or can't remember a valid reason why it doesn't .... Will give it some thought and get back to you.
Thank you Emma :)
This app has been a godsend I've recommended it to every escort I know/meet :-*
I add detail to my reports I think its more useful than just 'no show', gives a better picture of the offenders MO
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There are various reasons as to why notifications may not appear when a call arrives.
Any user using Android Lite, this feature is not available due to google restrictions
If using android FULL some newer phones use a slightly different call routing so CE is not triggered, our next FULL update (FEB '20) fixes this.
Any user using iOS the ensure you enable call blocking and identification for CE, Settings/Call blocking & Identification/ Enable Client Eye option
I dont understand what you mean by "Android lite" do you mean the operating system on your android phone? I have the app but it's got lite stricked through it so that's a default for my phone you mean? Thanks
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I dont understand what you mean by "Android lite" do you mean the operating system on your android phone? I have the app but it's got lite stricked through it so that's a default for my phone you mean? Thanks
Android "Lite" is the version we have on the playstore, due to google restrictions it cannot do live call/sms monitoring.
Android "Full" from our website does not have these restrictions so can give live warnings as you receive calls and sms's
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Android "Lite" is the version we have on the playstore, due to google restrictions it cannot do live call/sms monitoring.
Android "Full" from our website does not have these restrictions so can give live warnings as you receive calls and sms's
Is this a bit like when my android shows Google lite, switches to a stripped down version when signal isn't very strong? Obviously your app is either one or the other - but less memory required?
BTW just popped in a number today old client from years ago who was unreliable, faffer turns out he's been reported for phoning multiple providers booking them for the same time then cancelling them all.
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Is this a bit like when my android shows Google lite, switches to a stripped down version when signal isn't very strong? Obviously your app is either one or the other - but less memory required?
BTW just popped in a number today old client from years ago who was unreliable, faffer turns out he's been reported for phoning multiple providers booking them for the same time then cancelling them all.
They are 2 different versions of the same app, "Lite" is a stripped down versionn of "Full", Google playstore has many restrictions on what apps can do, our "Full" version has no restrictions and can give instant notifications as calls come in, so you instantly know if they have any previous reports before answering the call.
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Emma, when exactly is the new update?
I'm hoping this will synchronise with my phonecalls/texts.
Also, will I need to reinstall the app?
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Emma, when exactly is the new update?
I'm hoping this will synchronise with my phonecalls/texts.
Also, will I need to reinstall the app?
It very much depends on the system you're using
iOS update is in review by them, when they ok it, it should update automatically but iOS will still limit us to call logs and manual searching only.
Android "Lite" update is released and on the playstore but it will not auto update you'd need to redownload
Android "Full" update HOPEFULLY next week, will require to uninstall and reinstall using the new link when its available
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They are 2 different versions of the same app, "Lite" is a stripped down versionn of "Full", Google playstore has many restrictions on what apps can do, our "Full" version has no restrictions and can give instant notifications as calls come in, so you instantly know if they have any previous reports before answering the call.
that's brilliant, thanks for clarifying. I'll download it now. Will we need to delete the lite version?
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that's brilliant, thanks for clarifying. I'll download it now. Will we need to delete the lite version?
They can both be installed at the same time without any conflict but "Lite" will be of no use to you if you have the "Full" version, as "Full" does everything "Lite" does but with many more features.
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So after 6 months of hard work, our latest Android ClientEye FULL version is now available, with the new sharing and support ticketing system ... links updated on our website
(If you get a conflict message when installing, Uninstall any older version first)
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I have a few numbers that do not generate a report or show up as having called or text in the app. All the other numbers are showing. Does this mean it's a web based number and that's why there's no report or showing as contacted me in the app?
There's no reason I can think that would cause that as the app only reads your phone lists and displays them to you.
If your phone has seen them as calls and SMS then they would appear in the app lists.
There's an update to the FULL version on our website if you do not already have it.
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Hi Emma
I have uninstalled the Mr Number app from my phone and installed the full version of Client eye which is working totally fine. But I do have the odd number which texts or calls me, that appears as a normal call but doesn't show up in the Client eye at all. So I was thinking it may be a client that was using a app of some kind to generate a number which isn't a real mobile number and that's why it wasn't showing in Client eye?
Even spoofed numbers ( or an app number ) if it comes to your phone appearing as a normal call it should go through the phone's default call handler which ClientEye monitors to display warnings. If ALL calls had been routed through Mr Number as the default call handler ClientEye would never display any warnings, so its a bit of a mystery.
It can happen that a warning may not appear as a call/sms comes in IF the phones internet is down or slow, as checked are made on our database and if unreachable no warning would appear, however the call/SMS should still appear in the apps lists.
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How do I get this to work with my blackberry 10?
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How do I get this to work with my blackberry 10?
Incompatible it is possible to pop it on a separate android, then search for each number - that's how I use it. Can also input reports this way.
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Yep was doing that with my iPhone until the app stopped working.
Recommendations for good phone to use with this app; it's that good I would like to get one to use with the full version.
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Yep was doing that with my iPhone until the app stopped working.
Recommendations for good phone to use with this app; it's that good I would like to get one to use with the full version.
Our test Android phone is a Samsung 6 Edge if that helps
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Hi Emma
Client eye is such a great tool only recently used it. I noticed there is reports on there from saafe. Can i ask does the app automatically grab past reports that are on here and National Ugly Mugs as i know client eye is new and just wondering if all 3 need to be searched separately?
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Hi Emma
Client eye is such a great tool only recently used it. I noticed there is reports on there from saafe. Can i ask does the app automatically grab past reports that are on here and National Ugly Mugs as i know client eye is new and just wondering if all 3 need to be searched separately?
Our system has been designed to allow us to manually add numbers, when a new saafe report is made i.e. for 071234567** we add it to our database and we have added the last 6 years worth of saafe reported numbers.
ClientEye can display reports if there is an EXACT number match on our database and also if there is a partial number match on saafe. We don't display the saafe description but direct users to search saafe for any possible matches & report descriptions.
NUM reported numbers are not public so we don't have access in order to do partial number match warnings.
We currently have 39,000 reports, so we have alot BUT it's better to be safe and check all reporting databases as each may give different results.
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Thanks Emma that is very useful to know. Thanks for getting back quick.
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Think this is a great app just wished more would report and also be more specific in reports sorry to say that be cautious when dealing..... doesn't tell me anything.
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I think someone’s mentioned this previously but my eyes have gone blind to it : when I’ve got a contact saved they no longer have the tag line of “client eye report ..*” under their name/saved name in my phone log.
Do I need an updated version? Or is this just an ongoing issue ? Thanks xx
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Think this is a great app just wished more would report and also be more specific in reports sorry to say that be cautious when dealing..... doesn't tell me anything.
Yes It would be best if everyone put in a description (Most do) but on those occassions when user's don't we place default text rather than having no text. The report type shown has been chosen by the user though so hopefully gives some indication of the report reason.
I think someone’s mentioned this previously but my eyes have gone blind to it : when I’ve got a contact saved they no longer have the tag line of “client eye report ..*” under their name/saved name in my phone log.
Do I need an updated version? Or is this just an ongoing issue ? Thanks xx
With IOS, when a number calls you your phone checks your phone contact list and if there is NO MATCH it then checks the ClientEye list ( its an IOS default process that cannot be changed ).
IF you then store a ClientEye reported number to your phone contact list ClientEye is no longer checked. ( Again an IOS default process we cannot change)
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Emma, my Client Eye has stopped working with calls and I'm having to check numbers manually again. I've re downloaded the app with no success.
Any ideas?
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Emma, my Client Eye has stopped working with calls and I'm having to check numbers manually again. I've re downloaded the app with no success.
Any ideas?
Can you email me on contact@clienteye.app or DM on twitter so I can go through things better with you
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Android FULL Version 2.1 released on our website
This version has some important background database updates as we prepare for our future update of username and email reporting options.
All android users are advised to update to this newer version asap as our older FULL versions and all playstore LITE versions will soon not show report descriptions.
Emma x
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Hi
I hope you are well.
I tried to download your new version but impossible to download.
When I go to your website, I press android download updated 17 June 2020 and the only thing I get is a blank page on my phone, it does not download.
When I try to send you a message from your site, I get redirected to a video and consequently can't leave a message.
So that is the reason I contact you from here.
I have a blackberry Android technology.
I tried the clienteyelite downloaded from my google store/play. It does download but not work properly so I am very worried.
Could you help me?
Thanks
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Hi
I hope you are well.
I tried to download your new version but impossible to download.
When I go to your website, I press android download updated 17 June 2020 and the only thing I get is a blank page on my phone, it does not download.
When I try to send you a message from your site, I get redirected to a video and consequently can't leave a message.
So that is the reason I contact you from here.
I have a blackberry Android technology.
I tried the clienteyelite downloaded from my google store/play. It does download but not work properly so I am very worried.
Could you help me?
Thanks
Thanks for pointing out the download address error, if you now refresh the page the link now directs correctly
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I love this App but it’s just so slow and constantly shuts down on my phones
I’ve ended up installing it on my personal phone so that I can check numbers
And in the list section where it list calls it’s not updated with the new calls
They will show in the text section but not in the list section
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I love this App but it’s just so slow and constantly shuts down on my phones
I’ve ended up installing it on my personal phone so that I can check numbers
And in the list section where it list calls it’s not updated with the new calls
They will show in the text section but not in the list section
I use it in a similar way, several times in the last few weeks I have come off a call feeling I have been 'wrong' or overly harsh popped the number into CE and sure enough lots of TW, abusive reports. Obviously knew then I wasn't over reacting.
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I love this App but it’s just so slow and constantly shuts down on my phones
If you can email me or make contact via twitter or the support sections of our apps i'd love to go through this with you to track the issue
I’ve ended up installing it on my personal phone so that I can check numbers
And in the list section where it list calls it’s not updated with the new calls
They will show in the text section but not in the list section
List section updates upon app start ( in Android ) if the app is already open in the background the call list won't refresh unless you drag the page down to refresh the content
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Now my client eye puts 99 reports on a client numbers probably have to delete app and download again
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Now my client eye puts 99 reports on a client numbers probably have to delete app and download again
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Thats correct, the version you must be using is no longer supported and bit by bit errors will appear. We now adapt our back office systems to support our newer apps and this can cause issues with older versions.
Our latest Android v2.3 can be downloaded from our website
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Please ladies if you use Client Eye and a client calls and shows up having reports do not tell them they reports on there and where it is otherwise it is allowing them to change there details.
A while back i was avoiding somebody that flashed up with a report, eventually i just made out i was fully booked he tried a few times did not want to give up and was very cocky lets say so seemed to me to be a pain and boundary pusher . He said to me "i know you probably avoiding me as i have seen a report on myself that a lady i visit showed me about myself" i said sorry do not know what you are talking about but if you have warnings will not see you now anyway.
He knew what it said so obviously got showed it. Please don't let clients know about this and what reports say about them or even just chit chatting with ok clients about the app.
Surely the less clients know about it the better and the app is for our safety, clients should not be given access to read reports even if the client is a nice one and a regular.
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Emma, CE says that verified user reports appear in bold and I have seen them more often lately.
How do I become a verified/trusted user?
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Emma, CE says that verified user reports appear in bold and I have seen them more often lately.
How do I become a verified/trusted user?
When you are viewing reports the verification shield icon will appear at the top of the app, click that and it will take you to our verification pages
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We have released a new Android update v2.4 available from our website.
This version will now also allow users to search for and report Email addresses & Usernames, which include Twitter, AW & [a punting forum]
Those who have v2.2 or v2.3 will auto update to this new version upon starting the app.
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CLIENTEYE APP UPDATES
ANDROID
17-08-2020 Android FULL v2.5 released with separate number, username & email search, and reporting sections.
Our Lite version (without auto Call/SMS screening capabilities) with the same search features is due to be released on the playstore in the next few days.
iOS APPLE
We have a test version of our iOS app update v1.0.7(4) available via App Store TestFlight app, Testflight is iOS's official app for testing apps before general release, we will be releasing an update v1.0.7(5) next week which will include username and email address searching & reporting options.
All links available on our website
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Please please please can more of you d/l Client Eye and report timewasters, No Shows and so on. I had 20 TWs today and only a few of them were flagged up.
It’s clear many guys contacting me the past few days are repeat offenders Zfrom their behaviour , they are just not being reported.
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So, I am having an issue since the new update.
Usually any spam reports show at the bottom of the call but now they aren't. I can't see it until I've answered and in some cases not all. One fuckwit slipped through the net today.
It's very frustrating. I don't think having to update it constantly is helpful. Disappointed.
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So, I am having an issue since the new update.
Usually any spam reports show at the bottom of the call but now they aren't. I can't see it until I've answered and in some cases not all. One fuckwit slipped through the net today.
It's very frustrating. I don't think having to update it constantly is helpful. Disappointed.
Will assume you are using the Android Full version as that's the one currently having updates ( and there's more to come ), without which users would not have the new username and email searching/reporting features or more streamlined services. We do updates as funds and donations allow.
Spam notifications that appear at the bottom are reliant on your phone making contact with our servers and reporting back if there's a match. sometimes there's a delay in connection because of users' internet speed or our current server loads.
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I can’t get client eye to work. I followed instructions and still nothing. Anyone else had issues?
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It’s I phone can’t get live notifications to work
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It’s I phone can’t get live notifications to work
Do you have a call blocking app or other phone app on your phone. That will interfere.
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No I don’t only client eye
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It’s I phone can’t get live notifications to work
iPhones run differently to our Android app and can only display warning notifications for calls, and only for numbers, you don't already have stored as a contact.
Go to your iPhone Settings / Phone / Call blocking & identification and switch on the clienteye caller i.d. You'll then get Call notifications if the caller is not already stored as a contact.
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I did that and it’s not working
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I did that and it’s not working
Try uninstalling and reinstalling or try our Testflight iOS app ( linked on the website ), if you still have issues email me on contact@clienteye.app or use the support system within the iOS Testflight App.
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I downloaded the new one with test flight. Now before the app starts properly it shuts down
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I did that and it’s not working
BTW on iOS warning notifications ONLY appear if a caller is not already stored by you as a contact and there are reports for them, otherwise nothing will appear. We have another Testflight version due in a few days 1.0.7(5)
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Our iOS testflight beta version 1.0.7(5) has been released.
iOS users can now search for and report usernames and email addresses as well as telephone numbers. Download links can be found on our website
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Spam notifications that appear at the bottom are reliant on your phone making contact with our servers and reporting back if there's a match. sometimes there's a delay in connection because of users' internet speed or our current server loads.
That's good to know, thanks.
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When I go on to the app, I often see - 2 next to numbers. What is the meaning of minus 2. There is never any text to accompany these.
Thanks.
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Hi Emma. I know Client Eye has lots of reports on your app including past ones before Client Eye got going from saafe etc? How often do you take warnings off saafe when there reported here? Because i know there is still a lot of women that do not know of Client Eye so will only report on here or NUM so just want to know from a safety point?
Thankyou for this invention though it is a great tool to have the numbers checked for reports as there calling you. So many i just ignore now as been given the heads up on the timewasters or dangerous ones.
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Hi Emma. I know Client Eye has lots of reports on your app including past ones before Client Eye got going from saafe etc? How often do you take warnings off saafe when there reported here? Because i know there is still a lot of women that do not know of Client Eye so will only report on here or NUM so just want to know from a safety point?
Thankyou for this invention though it is a great tool to have the numbers checked for reports as there calling you. So many i just ignore now as been given the heads up on the timewasters or dangerous ones.
We try to add the saafe reported numbers to ClientEye every day, sometimes with other things going on it can be a little longer. Max 2 days.
We do find that 75% of the numbers reported here are also reported to ClientEye either at the same time or have previously been reported
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When I go on to the app, I often see - 2 next to numbers. What is the meaning of minus 2. There is never any text to accompany these.
Thanks.
It's usually an anomaly that can happen when the sender or caller uses a Private or Withheld number
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We try to add the saafe reported numbers to ClientEye every day, sometimes with other things going on it can be a little longer. Max 2 days.
We do find that 75% of the numbers reported here are also reported to ClientEye either at the same time or have previously been reported
Brilliant. Thanks for getting back.
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I’ve noticed it’s been very glitchy in the last few days
Very slow sometimes it won’t open
I’ve deleted and re-installed it but it’s still the same and on one of my phones it won’t open at all
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It's not working for me either, hasn't done for days and my friend can't get hers to work either. It's taking ages to load for manual checking and kicks you out.
We are receiving no notifications for texts or calls.
It really isn't any use if it's not going to work. Well I managed for years without it so will manage now. The older version before the update was faster and more reliable.
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Like kbp I am finding clienteye very glitch at the moment. Tried reporting a Time waster and if I put the town in the location box prior to picking country no Countries come up in the list at all. Had to exit app and reopen again. Very slow at searching numbers too.
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Ive deleted and reinstalled the app on my phones
One is working but a bit slow
The other one takes ages to search and often kicks you out before you can put the number in
I have iPhone and android and it’s the same on both
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We are aware of the issues, its a server issue we have been trying to fix for the past 14hrs. Work is still ongoing
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Additionally - It won't matter which version (iOS or Android ) or which revision of the app you are using they all use the same server, we did post on twitter last night regarding the issue as we were not able to use the apps to inform users of the error.
It will be fixed.
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Our apps are back online and back to 95% normality
We still have some support ticket issues to fix and some other minor things but notifications, database syncing, searching and reporting is working again.
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Thanks for everything btw. You’ve improved the quality of my working life significantly and made me feel so much safer, I’m so grateful. I’d like to make a small donation, what’s your details for this? It’s not much but I just wanted to express my gratitude!
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Thanks for everything btw. You’ve improved the quality of my working life significantly and made me feel so much safer, I’m so grateful. I’d like to make a small donation, what’s your details for this? It’s not much but I just wanted to express my gratitude!
There's a gofundme logo on the front page, just tried pressing it took me to a donation page.
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I have noticed that when someone calls or texts but more so texts if can show up with the spam check for a second butbwhen i go back into the call log list or texts in client eye that number is not showing unless i put it in manually.
I am thinking there might be a delay for it to register on your call/ text logs on the app maybe due to server or internet etc.
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Thanks for everything btw. You’ve improved the quality of my working life significantly and made me feel so much safer, I’m so grateful. I’d like to make a small donation, what’s your details for this? It’s not much but I just wanted to express my gratitude!
We do have a fundraiser on gofundme, you should find various links in the apps depending on the version you are using
There's a gofundme logo on the front page, just tried pressing it took me to a donation page.
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I have noticed that when someone calls or texts but more so texts if can show up with the spam check for a second butbwhen i go back into the call log list or texts in client eye that number is not showing unless i put it in manually.
I am thinking there might be a delay for it to register on your call/ text logs on the app maybe due to server or internet etc.
On android you should be able to open up the section within the app and drag down to refresh the list, the recent calls/sms will refresh
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I'm looking for the client eye app on my android play store but its coming up as client eye lite is this the right one? I can't see the other app
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Ideally Helen the lite version is restricted a bit to the info you get. Just go onto google and google Client eye and download the full version from there website.
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Ok thanks
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Two things.
First my phone won't allow updates from you so in order to get an updated version I had to de then reinstall
Second regarding searching for alerts by area, are you going to be adding to the list of counties in the UK, as it's limited. My current county isn't included meaning I can't search for local alerts.
Thanks.
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Two things.
First my phone won't allow updates from you so in order to get an updated version I had to de then reinstall
Unsure why that would be as the Android auto updating version should work on any phone using Android
Second regarding searching for alerts by area, are you going to be adding to the list of counties in the UK, as it's limited. My current county isn't included meaning I can't search for local alerts.
If we have missed a county or town/city please let us know via the apps built in support ticket system and we can look to adding it.
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Has anyone got the same issue with client eye recently? I can no longer see the warnings against phone numbers that pop up. I scrolled through the call log and I have no notifications any more.
I just had a very dangerous client booking me with tons of warnings and I only saw last minute after routine checking. How to fix this ?? I have re installed and see the same problem no notifications against numbers help
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Same problem the app keeps on flashing after I open it, kicks me out, now when I try enabling access to permit call ID there is an extension error message. For a few weeks now unnoticed that I am unable to see the alerts against numbers in the call log )iPhone)
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Has anyone got the same issue with client eye recently? I can no longer see the warnings against phone numbers that pop up. I scrolled through the call log and I have no notifications any more.
I just had a very dangerous client booking me with tons of warnings and I only saw last minute after routine checking. How to fix this ?? I have re installed and see the same problem no notifications against numbers help
Same problem the app keeps on flashing after I open it, kicks me out, now when I try enabling access to permit call ID there is an extension error message. For a few weeks now unnoticed that I am unable to see the alerts against numbers in the call log )iPhone)
Hi, are you are the person we have dealt with by email and the issue is now resolved ?
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Hi Emma i know you have somewhere on Client eye do not share details with clients but have you thought about having it in bold on every page?
I say this because i think many women are still not understanding they should not be telling clients when they call them that they have a report on Client Eye.
I have had probably 3 men calling tell me i know i have a report on there but ignore it because it's rubbish when they figure out i am always busy when they call. I play ignorant to what they say.
I saw a previous dangerous guy on there that i too reported and one woman said he told her i been told i have warnings for behaving bad she blocked him but obviously previous women have told him he is on the Client Eye blacklist.
So dangerous men will start to change there numbers putting us in more danger.
I don't understand why women cant ignore them, block them so they do not have to deal with them or just say there busy or make an excuse.
Not sure if some are just not thinking of consequences a by telling them and it does not enter there head that they will get a new sim or username, but do you think it might remind them if it's in black and white on every page of warnings not to do this?
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The same thing happened with the client reports on AW, which I believe is why they were withdrawn. Some people are just stupid or more interested in pandering to men than protecting other women, unfortunately. I guess it's also pretty easy for men to make a false account and check themselves.
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Kay from the situations i have seen there being told " i will not see you because you got reports come up on Client eye for bad behaviour"
All there doing is damaging the app which is a great thing for sex workers i do not get how they cannot see this.
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Hi Emma i know you have somewhere on Client eye do not share details with clients but have you thought about having it in bold on every page?
I say this because i think many women are still not understanding they should not be telling clients when they call them that they have a report on Client Eye.
I have had probably 3 men calling tell me i know i have a report on there but ignore it because it's rubbish when they figure out i am always busy when they call. I play ignorant to what they say.
I saw a previous dangerous guy on there that i too reported and one woman said he told her i been told i have warnings for behaving bad she blocked him but obviously previous women have told him he is on the Client Eye blacklist.
So dangerous men will start to change there numbers putting us in more danger.
I don't understand why women cant ignore them, block them so they do not have to deal with them or just say there busy or make an excuse.
Not sure if some are just not thinking of consequences a by telling them and it does not enter there head that they will get a new sim or username, but do you think it might remind them if it's in black and white on every page of warnings not to do this?
We have always recommended that users do not share any reported details with clients, but we know that some will continue to do so regardless.
Although we don't have the space in the apps to display a message regarding this on every page we do have banner spaces, we have just changed one of these banners to display a message saying
"To increase the safety of other users please do not inform callers if they have been reported"
this will now appear to each user at least once per session. Hopefully this will go some way to informing users it's in their best interest to not mention previous reports.
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Thanks Emma that is great. I hope more women see that and understand the repurcussions of warning dangerous clients what has been said about them.
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Is there any mechanism for reporting a guy twice. Reason I ask is that on several occasions a guy has wasted my time and I have reported them and then they have become worse, for example abusive. And I feel escalating behaviour like this should be reported.
Thanks.
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The last time you usually can only report once. But its true you could report someone just being a no show or timewaster but they could come back and become a danger with threats or something or harassing you which could do with reporting again but maybe editing your previous report but i don't know how difficult it might be for these extra services within the app to update on a report?
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The last time you usually can only report once. But its true you could report someone just being a no show or timewaster but they could come back and become a danger with threats or something or harassing you which could do with reporting again but maybe editing your previous report but i don't know how difficult it might be for these extra services within the app to update on a report?
Oh I didn’t realise you could edit previous reports?
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No sorry you cannot edit them i meant if you could. But i think if someone became more a problem you can contact Client eye direct from the app quoting the number and ask if they could add something more serious in or take off that report and you add in the the full situation as it is now.
I am sure Emma will answer your question when she sees it on here.
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Is there any mechanism for reporting a guy twice. Reason I ask is that on several occasions a guy has wasted my time and I have reported them and then they have become worse, for example abusive. And I feel escalating behaviour like this should be reported.
Thanks.
As "English Green" has mentioned we don't allow users to report a number more than once as it leave the sysyem open to abuse, however, you can request an update to any report you may have previously left, and do so anonymously via the apps ticketing system if your app version has this feature.
Currently all our android apps have this feature as does our iOS testflight version.
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How do I become a verified member so that my warnings come up highlighted / black
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Haven’t had warning in my call log for a couple days?
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How do I become a verified member so that my warnings come up highlighted / black
It's now an automated process based upon reporting history
Haven’t had warning in my call log for a couple days?
Would be best to email or DM on twitter or use the support ticket software if your version of the app has this feature so we can go through some things
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Hi Emma,
Is it ever likely there will be a facility to offset a negative report?
Whilst the majority of warnings are bona fide, there are others that perhaps don't merit one. For example a client i saw today had a report for 'having previously seen a bareback provider.' Now that doesn't bother me (I don't have time to stalk clients profiles). Don't get me wrong, CE is fantastic and anymore than 1 report and I just block but I do think there are some reports that are unjustified (imo) and a friend of mine agrees and has seen loads of lovely guys with 1 report.
I realise nothing is better than my own judgement and screening procedures, which I employ regardless of reports, but whether to put a report up is highly subjective .
At least with negative and positive reports (although granted there won't likely be that many positive ones!) it would be helpful to some of us.
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Hi Emma,
Is it ever likely there will be a facility to offset a negative report?
Whilst the majority of warnings are bona fide, there are others that perhaps don't merit one. For example a client i saw today had a report for 'having previously seen a bareback provider.' Now that doesn't bother me (I don't have time to stalk clients profiles). Don't get me wrong, CE is fantastic and anymore than 1 report and I just block but I do think there are some reports that are unjustified (imo) and a friend of mine agrees and has seen loads of lovely guys with 1 report.
I realise nothing is better than my own judgement and screening procedures, which I employ regardless of reports, but whether to put a report up is highly subjective .
At least with negative and positive reports (although granted there won't likely be that many positive ones!) it would be helpful to some of us.
I see what you are saying with an example like that.
However I think that this would be too open to abuse, in the same way the adultwork notes system was open to abuse and ultimately became useless and was closed down.
That would mean any Provider, just because she had a good experience with someone for example could try and offset someone who for example had a report of abuse or violence against them.
And we all know clients don’t behave in the same way to us all. I think this would mean a lot of confusion and ultimately more possible danger for us all.
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I also get KBP point about a report on someone who has seen someone who has offered bareback as a service and don't think this is a good enough reason. But i think some will see that and probably still see him ( as it's more a problem if this client is actually trying to get bareback but booked someone who do not offer it) and some will not because they purely do not want to see anyone who might visit someone who offers the service.
But i think i understand why Emma does not want to go down the positive route because that could be open for more abuse. As we know some ladies have given customers the info they have a report on CE so what stops them registering to alter there bad report and especially if it's a dangerous situation and they say" they must have this client mixed up as he was such a gentleman ladies please ignore as he was great with me"
That would be my only worry.
Guys with just 1 report though as you said there will be some women that will not care and still take a booking from them. I have seen some reports saying saw his bad report just the 1 but decided to give him a chance but no he switched phone off on me too and never showed. So i think some ladies will ignore a single report anyway and take the chance unless something serious.
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Whilst all points that have been made are 100% valid we have to leave what gets reported to the users, one persons timewaster is another users client.
In the cases mentioned, whilst some will not have a problem seeing a client who has seen a BB provider others may, in regards to positive reporting it again opens up CE to alot of issues so for now we have no plans to adapt CE to allow these. ..... Emma
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...in regards to positive reporting it again opens up CE to alot of issues so for now we have no plans to adapt CE to allow these...
Hear, hear!
No offence to anybody, but I don't see the point having an app (or a facility within an app) to warn against...pleasant customers!
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There is one guy I saw recently whom a lady had left a very scary report about saying the guy was aggressive and wouldn’t leave her house and I only accepted him because l had met him before. I could bet a week’s earnings that the report was fake and it would be good if l was able to put a note on that report saying l have met that guy twice and he was lovely. In my opinion this guy was given a bad report because he was a walk out to somebody.
I also took a chance on another guy who somebody claimed to be a stalker because I got good vibes from him. He was also fine with me. But maybe he was a stalker to the other lady.
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There is one guy I saw recently whom a lady had left a very scary report about saying the guy was aggressive and wouldn’t leave her house and I only accepted him because l had met him before. I could bet a week’s earnings that the report was fake and it would be good if l was able to put a note on that report saying l have met that guy twice and he was lovely. In my opinion this guy was given a bad report because he was a walk out to somebody.
I also took a chance on another guy who somebody claimed to be a stalker because I got good vibes from him. He was also fine with me. But maybe he was a stalker to the other lady.
I let a report affect what I'd agree to wear for a cam enquiry but to be honest I would want payment to have arrived from anyone before changing. I'd also had a lot of TW calls at that time.
I've had experience of fake reports, as well as guys behaving differently both ways from different systems prior to CE. Not a new phenomenon.
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Hi!
Just wondered how long typically does it take to get a response when emailing?
I sent an email to the email given about 12 days ago because client eye isn’t working on my phone.
Just not sure if I should resend incase it’s been missed!
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Sorry we must have missed it, can you email again or contact us on twitter or via the support feature in the app if using any of our most up to date versions. Emma
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So i have been escorting for a year now and have just discovered client eye thanks to this website. So i have been going through all the contacts listed as 'BANNED' in my contact list/ blocked list and naturally lots of them had several reports on there.
Now i thought, as curious as i am, i would also have a look at some of my regulars numbers and to my shock i had an old regular saved as 'Alex Nice' and he had three warnings on there! Shocked as he was genuinely a nice lad.
Has anyone else found warnings on nice clients? If so which one shocked you the most?
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There is one guy I saw recently whom a lady had left a very scary report about saying the guy was aggressive and wouldn’t leave her house and I only accepted him because l had met him before. I could bet a week’s earnings that the report was fake and it would be good if l was able to put a note on that report saying l have met that guy twice and he was lovely. In my opinion this guy was given a bad report because he was a walk out to somebody.
I also took a chance on another guy who somebody claimed to be a stalker because I got good vibes from him. He was also fine with me. But maybe he was a stalker to the other lady.
Please just because a guy was nice to you- doesn’t mean he can’t be a totally asshole to someone else
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Candi Rose i have seen it twice with 2 guys i have seen a few times and not had any probs with. The warning was only for keep cancelling bookings with other's. I think as more and more reports go on Client Eye and there is loads, people will see different experiences as some take the piss out of some workers but might behave better with others it's to be expected.
I remember a guy i saw about 7 times over 2 years had no problem with apart from i got the impression he was a fantasist story teller. I found out afterwards he had stalked a few ladies and made phoney phone calls to them pretending to have found out his dad is cheating on his mum with that lady and revenge will happen and putting notes on her car near her work flat to scare her and another lady he followed home saw where she lived and blackmailed her into giving him his fee back. So it's very possible for some to not give 1 worker no hassle but cause trouble for others. It happens a lot unfortunately.
The warnings are there as a guide for you to make a choice some will not go anywhere near them others will chance it.
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My first experience with different experiences was very early on, before apps when warnings were on private sections of forums. Also I received a warning about a very pleasant regular directly by email from another sex worker. I knew enough that they simply had not clicked, I had also heard a variety of tales from other people putting that and other evidence together I decided it was ok to continue and never experienced the same from this client.
However I have first hand experience of punters who turn nasty or disrespectful after being pleasant, are able to have enough bookings/enough benefit of the doubt given to obtain good feedback on AW.
I know enough to make my own judgement with my own screening in place, and generally someone who is unpleasant and or a danger or disrespectful will not make it through. What I like about CE is confirming a gut feeling, or experience as well as 'forearmed'.
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So i have been escorting for a year now and have just discovered client eye thanks to this website. So i have been going through all the contacts listed as 'BANNED' in my contact list/ blocked list and naturally lots of them had several reports on there.
Now i thought, as curious as i am, i would also have a look at some of my regulars numbers and to my shock i had an old regular saved as 'Alex Nice' and he had three warnings on there! Shocked as he was genuinely a nice lad.
Has anyone else found warnings on nice clients? If so which one shocked you the most?
Yes, one of my favourites has half a dozen warnings for hassling for bareback/stealthing and not paying by transfer. Was so shocked by this as he's been nothing but great with me, but then again, at the outset, I was very clear that I only deal in cash and if he tried stealthing I would report him to the police.
After I saw the warnings against him, I stopped seeing him because I was so appalled by his behaviour. A shame, he always paid for an hour and I only ever stayed 30-45 minutes.
I also checked through my contacts, phone numbers, user names and email addresses and it transpires that various guys I had turned down because of a gut feeling all turned out to have warnings too, so that was validating to discover my intuition was correct.
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Client Eye has gone down. Hope it will be fixed soon.
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What’s happening? Will it ever return? :-(
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What’s happening? Will it ever return? :-(
It's been working all along for me, checked it after seeing this post yesterday.
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Yeah same for me. After about an hour started working yesterday.
Had a similar glitch today for about half hour. But been working fine since that for me anyway :)
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Not working for me. I click on the app and it doesn’t do anything haven’t been able to screen anyone
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It seems to be working now after a day of me having to rely on my gut instinct (like I've done for years), which got me to thinking that perhaps I have missed out on some genuine clients by slavishly relying on CE.
Afterall, because a client has no showed someone else doesn't mean they won't show up for me.
Obviously it is a blessing to avoid the dangerous ones but being without it on what has been a very busy day helped me rely on myself again.
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Hi all, again we are late to the conversation as we don't get email notifications for replies to this thread, will have to look further on this maybe a setting i've missed.
All our app versions rely on connection to our databases, we moved servers on sunday and it can take some time for the new server addresses to propergate so connections at the moment until it settles down will be intermittent.
We expected some downtime (approx 2 hrs) thats why we timed it for a Sunday but its taken alot longer than we had planned for the propergation to go through (its a techy thing we don't fully understand lol ) ... hopfully we are back to some level of normality now.
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Hi, sorry I posted above about no response from emails.
I’ve sent emails to clienteyeuk gmail and contact client eye app.
I’ve still yet to hear anything back?
What is the best way to get in touch and get a response?
Thank you :)
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How do I read Client Eye warnings/check on adultwork? I have searched on here to no avail.
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How do I read Client Eye warnings/check on adultwork? I have searched on here to no avail.
I don't use it but I think it's an app?
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How do I read Client Eye warnings/check on adultwork? I have searched on here to no avail.
You have to download the app google Client Eye get the full version from there website you do not want the lite version from google play as more restricted. Also go into spamming in lions den on here and read the posts on Client Eye to get a feel.
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Hi, sorry I posted above about no response from emails.
I’ve sent emails to clienteyeuk gmail and contact client eye app.
I’ve still yet to hear anything back?
What is the best way to get in touch and get a response?
Thank you :)
Please check your spam / junk folders for any replies, if we have missed it please message us again on the contact clienteye app email address
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How do I read Client Eye warnings/check on adultwork? I have searched on here to no avail.
You would need one of our apps in order to check for reports, we do have a plugin websites can use so users can do online checks but adultwork doesnt have this installed
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Please check your spam / junk folders for any replies, if we have missed it please message us again on the contact clienteye app email address
Hi, I check my spam daily anyway and nothing in there :)
Can you confirm the email for me? Just so I know for sure?
I’ve tried two but I’m not sure which one is the current or if both work.
Thank you!
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Hi, I check my spam daily anyway and nothing in there :)
Can you confirm the email for me? Just so I know for sure?
I’ve tried two but I’m not sure which one is the current or if both work.
Thank you!
contact@clienteye.app
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Thank you for the info.
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You would need one of our apps in order to check for reports, we do have a plugin websites can use so users can do online checks but adultwork doesnt have this installed
Can you say which websites do? I would definitely like to prioritise those bookings!
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Can you say which websites do? I would definitely like to prioritise those bookings!
Our website plugin is currently used on sleepyboy and on Available angels, we have had talks with 2 other uk sites who have expressed an interest and another major UK listing site, due to privacy we currently cannot mention their names.
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Our website plugin is currently used on sleepyboy and on Available angels, we have had talks with 2 other uk sites who have expressed an interest and another major UK listing site, due to privacy we currently cannot mention their names.
I am not sure how plugins work but is there a way we can have it on our personal sites for when clients book direct through them as i often forget to take the details and run them through the phone app x
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I am not sure how plugins work but is there a way we can have it on our personal sites for when clients book direct through them as i often forget to take the details and run them through the phone app x
Unfortunatly not as we keep the plugin highly protected, if we had it available for all to download clients could make use of it so its use has to always be controlled and licensed only to listing websites.
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Unfortunatly not as we keep the plugin highly protected, if we had it available for all to download clients could make use of it so its use has to always be controlled and licensed only to listing websites.
understandable thanks for replying x
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Please, please, ladies, do not mention Client Eye on your profile.
The most dangerous punters will just change their number and everyone will be at risk.
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Please, please, ladies, do not mention Client Eye on your profile.
The most dangerous punters will just change their number and everyone will be at risk.
It gets worse. Some tell them when they call you have a report for bad behaviour so not seeing you and even read them the report and the area so they know who has reported them. As more clients are learning of Client eye it's a good thing they don't allow positive reports on bad reports because clients will be correcting there own reports. I know Client eye could Occasionly be abused and should only be used for the purpose of only true reports but only having negative reports stops clients trying to sign up.
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Please, please, ladies, do not mention Client Eye on your profile.
The most dangerous punters will just change their number and everyone will be at risk.
I was sent a profile of a woman on AW she actually had a tab entitled 'client eye' telling guys all about it and saying if they dont behave they will go on her 'naughty list' and 'be zapped' whatever that means. She has been contacted and had irt pointed out that she is putting us in danger and guys can either just change their number or even worst contact CE and demand their number is removed but she doesn't want to know and is under the impression she is saving girls being raped ::)
I am hoping she is a member here and will finally see that tellin guys about CE is not a wise thing to do x
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Xx
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She removed it when Client eye spoke to her after telling the ladies that she was saving people being raped but it doesnt matter now its removed and hopefully seeing this will make people think twice before putting it on their own profiles
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Please, please, ladies, do not mention Client Eye on your profile.
The most dangerous punters will just change their number and everyone will be at risk.
Indeed, I surprised at how often I've heard sex workers say they do this, tell whoever plays up with them that they are on 'a digital blacklist', even if the name isn't mentioned timewasters and dangerous guys can still work out they need to change their number if they aren't getting through to escorts.
I recently had a guy mess me around, saw a recent report on CE that he attributed to me and threatened me with reprisals. It might be handy if CE could warn users (if they don't already, I'm not sure) to not discuss the app (specifically or generally) with 'punters' for these reasons.
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Indeed, I surprised at how often I've heard sex workers say they do this, tell whoever plays up with them that they are on 'a digital blacklist', even if the name isn't mentioned timewasters and dangerous guys can still work out they need to change their number if they aren't getting through to escorts.
I recently had a guy mess me around, saw a recent report on CE that he attributed to me and threatened me with reprisals. It might be handy if CE could warn users (if they don't already, I'm not sure) to not discuss the app (specifically or generally) with 'punters' for these reasons.
Really annoying when someone listed on CE exhibits same or similar behaviour, they only cement the report in my mind.
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User will now see a message after reporting asking them to avoid telling clients they have been or have previously been reported.
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@ClientEye
Firstly I want to say that I love CE. I used to escort ten years ago and I've just started again and I think this is absolutely the best thing. I have two thoughts to offer though:
- Is it possible for the annoying animated splash screen to be disabled (as a setting) or outright removed? It damages the user experience because I have to wait to get into the main functionality of the app.
- I'd say the vast majority of my contacts are by WhatsApp. I'd really like it if the app would notice a new WhatsApp message from an unknown number and screen them in the same way it does SMS messages. Is this possible/planned?
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@ClientEye
Firstly I want to say that I love CE. I used to escort ten years ago and I've just started again and I think this is absolutely the best thing. I have two thoughts to offer though:
- Is it possible for the annoying animated splash screen to be disabled (as a setting) or outright removed? It damages the user experience because I have to wait to get into the main functionality of the app.
- I'd say the vast majority of my contacts are by WhatsApp. I'd really like it if the app would notice a new WhatsApp message from an unknown number and screen them in the same way it does SMS messages. Is this possible/planned?
Every app has a start up process which takes time, we fill ours with the splash screen, without it users would get a blank space or static page experience and maybe assume the app was not working. In regards to Whatsapp, unfortunatly it's a closed system and cannot be accessed to do call or message checking.
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Anyone having issues with this? I'm on android & every time i open it asks me to update then it just shows the opening screen swirling smoke on a loop...like spinning wheel of death. I've restated my phone & it's still doing it. Seems to now have a plus sign next to it is this right? I've not noticed that before.
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Anyone having issues with this? I'm on android & every time i open it asks me to update then it just shows the opening screen swirling smoke on a loop...like spinning wheel of death. I've restated my phone & it's still doing it. Seems to now have a plus sign next to it is this right? I've not noticed that before.
"ClientEye Full" has been updated to a our newer app "ClientEye +" , so you will have 2 apps in your device
ClientEye + which will start as normal, ClientEye Full which will put you into an updating loop forcing users to use the newer app
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"ClientEye Full" has been updated to a our newer app "ClientEye +" , so you will have 2 apps in your device
ClientEye + which will start as normal, ClientEye Full which will put you into an updating loop forcing users to use the newer app
Thank you that is confusing, I have now removed the CEF.
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Thank you that is confusing, I have now removed the CEF.
It is a bit :( , we can (via the auto update) get users to install the new version, unfortunatly we cannot uninstall the older version as part of that process.
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Every app has a start up process which takes time, we fill ours with the splash screen, without it users would get a blank space or static page experience
I should probably say that in my day job I am a professional software engineer.
The splash screen always plays in full regardless of how much data is in the app. Its implausible that you would manage to time a coherent animation to play for just the amount of time it takes to load the application (since loading time is going to be dependent on all sorts of factors outside of your control, such as how much data needs to be loaded and what device it is running on) so most likely the loading time is significantly less than that.
A better user experience would be to have a loading screen which
- Tells the user it is a loading screen
- Only displays for the actual time it takes to load the application
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Loading times depend very much on the data thats being loaded and the device loading it, typically this is between 4 & 8 seconds for our apps.
Our splash screen is 7 seconds long and is our loading screen as i'm sure users understand.
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Loading times depend very much on the data thats being loaded and the device loading it, typically this is between 4 & 8 seconds for our apps.
Our splash screen is 7 seconds long and is our loading screen as i'm sure users understand.
I think including the phrase "App loading, please wait" under the logo would probably help.
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...is our loading screen as i'm sure users understand.
I'm a fairly experienced technical professional and it wasn't obvious to me, so I'd bet that many of your users won't understand that. Is there any reason why you can't cut the animation short as soon as the data finishes loading? At any rate, this excellent suggestion
I think including the phrase "App loading, please wait" under the logo would probably help.
Would at least help users understand why they have to wait.
In regards to Whatsapp, unfortunatly it's a closed system and cannot be accessed to do call or message checking.
WhatsApp might be closed system, but Android isn't. A quick Google search tells me its possible to listen for push notifications using a NotificationListenerService. If you can read the phone number from that notification, then you'd be able to use it in the same way you listen to SMS messages.
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If you want to avoid the extra few seconds (0-4) your device may not need to load the app and avoid the 7 second start screen, you can keep the app open in the background and use it to paste any number or manually search, the start screen only appears upon first starting, once started the screen won't appear again unless shut down.
Alternatively (for Calls/SMS) you can use the (expanded) Call/SMS notifications that appears in Android to view or report, this bypasses the start screen and loads the report description or reporting pages directly.
In regards to using NotificationListenerService to monitor whataspp notifications and reading the number in that notification to perform a search, yes it very well maybe doable assuming we request the permission and the user then allows Notification Listener Service to listen to whatsapp, BUT, and it's a big BUT, it would require investigation and further app development all of which costs £1000's.
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I would be happy to pay a fee to not get pop up ads.
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I would be happy to pay a fee to not get pop up ads.
The ads are tedious.
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I would be happy to pay a fee to not get pop up ads.
We have plans to have an option to remove the ads but for now they are helping pay the monthly bills
The ads are tedious.
Yes they are but necessary in order to help pay the bills
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Client eye is a free service for us and very helpful with the warnings. I am very grateful to have it and the start up and ads is not a huge deal. Apps do cost money to run and time so the ads just need to generate some money back.
Of course there can be teething problems and maybe certain things people don't like but lets remember it's free for us and has probably saved us all loads of timewasters and dangerous or oddball men seeing us.
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Client eye is a free service for us and very helpful with the warnings. I am very grateful to have it and the start up and ads is not a huge deal. Apps do cost money to run and time so the ads just need to generate some money back.
Of course there can be teething problems and maybe certain things people don't like but lets remember it's free for us and has probably saved us all loads of timewasters and dangerous or oddball men seeing us.
Don't misunderstand CE is fabulous, I find it excellent incredibly useful.
Was only an observation and know they need revenue to keep going.
I recently wanted to donate some money but the crowd funder had ended, would be very happy to contribute to running costs.
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Devs, since the new version I'm not getting pop ups for texts or calls. I've uninstalled the previous version. Any ideas? OnePlus 5, same OS I've been using since November.
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Devs, since the new version I'm not getting pop ups for texts or calls. I've uninstalled the previous version. Any ideas? OnePlus 5, same OS I've been using since November.
Please check the following to see if it helps:
1. When you first install the app & click into each of the sections like List / Contacts / SMS it will request permission to access the information, IF the permission has been denied then the app cannot see when calls or sms are received and can not check them, this could be your problem.
2. Click the notification BELL icon in the top row to check if you have have the Call & SMS notification options enabled if not enable them, if they are try disabling then enabling.
3. If all else fails, uninstall and reinstall to app to see if that solves the issue
4. Having other call monitoring apps installed in a device can route calls and sms information through them and avoid the default call/sms handler our apps look at, so also please check if you have any other apps installed causing the issue.
5. If nothing works message us on Twitter or via email or the support ticket software built into the app and will do our best to solve the issue for you.
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Thank you, I did no 1 and that solved it!
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Client eye is a free service for us and very helpful with the warnings. I am very grateful to have it and the start up and ads is not a huge deal. Apps do cost money to run and time so the ads just need to generate some money back.
Of course there can be teething problems and maybe certain things people don't like but lets remember it's free for us and has probably saved us all loads of timewasters and dangerous or oddball men seeing us.
+1000!!
Long live you, EG, and long live you, Client Eye Emma! ;D
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My app won’t open at all on my new phone ? When I click on it says client eye keeps stopping and won’t open at all.
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I've been getting 'failed error log sent' when I try to do searches today.
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My app won’t open at all on my new phone ? When I click on it says client eye keeps stopping and won’t open at all.
If you have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and you still have the same issue please email or contact us by DM on twitter and will see what can be done.
I've been getting 'failed error log sent' when I try to do searches today.
The 'failed error log sent' message ONLY appears if you have been BLOCKED, we blocked 5 users access yesterday. You can only be blocked for 3 reasons.
1. Your a Client and we have identified you as such.
2. You (or you and a friend) have used 2 devices to report the same client for the same issue.
3. We have made a mistake in blocking you (unlikely).
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Wow. I do not believe I should have been blocked - none of those reasons apply to me. I did log in more than once to double-check the same couple of numbers but using the same device.
I have PM'd you.
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Wow. I do not believe I should have been blocked - none of those reasons apply to me. I did log in more than once to double-check the same couple of numbers but using the same device.
I have PM'd you.
We don't receive PM's on here, you can either email us on contact@clienteye.app or DM us on Twitter @ClientEyeApp
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If you have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and you still have the same issue please email or contact us by DM on twitter and will see what can be done.
The 'failed error log sent' message ONLY appears if you have been BLOCKED, we blocked 5 users access yesterday. You can only be blocked for 3 reasons.
1. Your a Client and we have identified you as such.
2. You (or you and a friend) have used 2 devices to report the same client for the same issue.
3. We have made a mistake in blocking you (unlikely).
Will apologise for any confusion on our part, our systems which identify patterns of use flagged this account but after speaking to Minty this has now been clarified and now unblocked.
Wow. I do not believe I should have been blocked - none of those reasons apply to me. I did log in more than once to double-check the same couple of numbers but using the same device.
I have PM'd you.
You are perfectly correct, totally our error, hopefully all cleared up now and your access has been reinstated. x
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^Thankyou :)
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If you have tried uninstalling and reinstalling and you still have the same issue please email or contact us by DM on twitter and will see what can be done.
The 'failed error log sent' message ONLY appears if you have been BLOCKED, we blocked 5 users access yesterday. You can only be blocked for 3 reasons.
1. Your a Client and we have identified you as such.
2. You (or you and a friend) have used 2 devices to report the same client for the same issue.
3. We have made a mistake in blocking you (unlikely).
Here is where there could be a problem. On occasion I have worked with a friend. If he messes both of us about can we not both individually report him? We may not always know the other has done it. As for two devices I use one number for AW and one for Viva. It is possible that l May report from one phone then a week later he tries on other phone and l may have forgotten to save or block him. Sometimes l choose not to block because they more likely to suss out if everybody does that.
Also there have been times l have reported a guy for time wasting and later he has become abusive and I can’t report him again. Is there a way round it without having to email as I won’t always have time.
Thanks.
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Yes i have too just reported a timewaster in the past for being a messer or no show but they turned aggressive after it would be good to do a update to say someone got aggressive because some workers will still book in a timewaster but not if they thought he could be violent? Is there anyway around this Client Eye?
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Here is where there could be a problem. On occasion I have worked with a friend. If he messes both of us about can we not both individually report him? We may not always know the other has done it. As for two devices I use one number for AW and one for Viva. It is possible that l May report from one phone then a week later he tries on other phone and l may have forgotten to save or block him. Sometimes l choose not to block because they more likely to suss out if everybody does that.
Also there have been times l have reported a guy for time wasting and later he has become abusive and I can’t report him again. Is there a way round it without having to email as I won’t always have time.
Thanks.
We want a fair system that only allows a user to report a client once for the same issue, without this restriction "SOME" users may take advantage and place multiple reports for the same client for the same issue. This would skew the report count and be unfair.
If he messes both of us about can we not both individually report him? Yes, but the system will alert us to the reports which will then be looked at in more detail, if we see a pattern of "Multiple" reporting the users will receive a warning or a 24hr restriction which could lead to a ban. Each is looked at on a case by case basis.
Yes i have too just reported a timewaster in the past for being a messer or no show but they turned aggressive after it would be good to do a update to say someone got aggressive because some workers will still book in a timewaster but not if they thought he could be violent? Is there anyway around this Client Eye?
We have an update underway that will allow any reports to be removed via the app, but only by the user who made it. This would then allow the user to make a new report with updates.
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Ok that's great thankyou Client Eye.
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A quick update for our app users Most of which have been users suggested.
Those who follow us on twitter may have seen the next app updates we have in production but wanted to let users here what these are.
Android will be the first to see these updates, iOS (testflight) will soon follow.
The biggest feature of the next update is giving users the ability to report ALL a contacts details in one reporting process. Previously if you had 2 numbers, 1 username and 1 email address for a contact you would have to make 4 seperate reports, with the new system this is all combined into one process, this will also allow you to "LINK" those contact details so other users will know all a contacts aliases.
Users will be able to click on any of the report descriptions and see if any "LINKED" contact details appear, so other users will know all the information available.
Another feature of the update when a user clicks a description is 2 fold, 1st the report descriptions will have translation options from any language to any language as more and more (none English language ) users are using the app, the 2nd will allow users to make ClientEye aware IF a report description is suspect, i.e. false, fake, been left by a reported contact or has full name/address information.
The last feature of this update will be in how report descriptions display to users.
Normal black font - Normal user ( unverified )
Bold black font - Verified user ( based upon reporting history )
Purple colour will indicate that it's a report the user viewing, has made.
We will soon also be including a "Delete" button for verified users to remove any report they have previously made, this should come in handy if a mistake has been made or if a user wishes to update a previous report with new information.
ALL these updates have only been made possible because of the money thats been raised via our GoFundMe page, funding from our app sponsors and by our inclusion of in app ads, we know ads are a pain but without them we would be struggling to keep the app alive and kicking.
Emma x
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Thanks Emma that is great news.
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Fantastic news. A great app
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Anyone having issues using CE?
Just stuck on login page
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Anyone having issues using CE?
Just stuck on login page
Our server hosts reported a crash this morning, unfortunately we were down from 5.45am to 8.30am
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I saw your updates on your twitter feed ,in regards upgrading the system.
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Just wondering
I have seen a customer that has a very bad review on your app. I have seen him twice and always lovely. I think probably it is a mix up of number with the review. Does not reflect the customer behavior, what do you do in that case?
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Just wondering
I have seen a customer that has a very bad review on your app. I have seen him twice and always lovely. I think probably it is a mix up of number with the review. Does not reflect the customer behavior, what do you do in that case?
While the client you speak of is lovely to you, how do you know how he behaves with others?
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Just wondering
I have seen a customer that has a very bad review on your app. I have seen him twice and always lovely. I think probably it is a mix up of number with the review. Does not reflect the customer behavior, what do you do in that case?
It could be a mistake wrong number reported or it could be the fact that he chooses who to be Jekyl and Hyde with.
Is he aware of the report have you let him know?
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To reply to your question , I don t think he does know he has been reported. The report says he sells drugs to transgender and Rob them ,does the same to escort. He never proposed me any drug .The age given on the report is wrong with his description too so I feel sorry for him and the girls who could make money from him but block him due to bad report.
So don t know what to think.
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Just wondering
I have seen a customer that has a very bad review on your app. I have seen him twice and always lovely. I think probably it is a mix up of number with the review. Does not reflect the customer behavior, what do you do in that case?
Just because he’s lovely to you — it doesn’t mean he’s not a complete asshole to other girls. I’ve seen a few of my “good” clients numbers on there with bad reports, I do continue to see them but I’m more cautious with them now.
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Please ladies stop telling clients their numbers has being reported negatively on the app.
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Please ladies stop telling clients their numbers has being reported negatively on the app.
THIS
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Please ladies stop telling clients their numbers has being reported negatively on the app.
True voice said she never told him he has a report against him.
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True voice said she never told him he has a report against him.
I’m just posting in general—not in reply to her post. As I’ve heard a few guys say their numbers is on this app.
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I’m just posting in general—not in reply to her post. As I’ve heard a few guys say their numbers is on this app.
Yes very true i too have had guys say this.
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Sorry to be a pain!
Tried out the beta testing version of CE on iPhone. Loved it! The email/username/number option. Is there any idea when this will be moving to an update to public? Said it would be included in next update but just curious if you had any clue when it was?
Thanks ! No rush!
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Sorry to be a pain!
Tried out the beta testing version of CE on iPhone. Loved it! The email/username/number option. Is there any idea when this will be moving to an update to public? Said it would be included in next update but just curious if you had any clue when it was?
Thanks ! No rush!
The issue with moving our testflight version to a live app store version is the restrictive iOS review, we have for now been updating our testflight to a position where we can talke on all and any issues review may have with the app, app updates and app reviews are very time consuming so we have been concentrating on updates before tackling the review.
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For iOS users who where using our Testflight (beta) version that expired a few days ago, we have re-uploaded that version with a new link.
The new iOS Testflight link is now on our website
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Thanks for the update! Despite having used the Testflight (beta) version, the app has reverted back to the version where it is phone number searches only. When I follow the new link on your website, I am told 'this beta isn't accepting any new testers right now.'
:(
Edit: issue has now resolved and all is working as it should!
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Thanks for the update! Despite having used the Testflight (beta) version, the app has reverted back to the version where it is phone number searches only. When I follow the new link on your website, I am told 'this beta isn't accepting any new testers right now.'
:(
Edit: issue has now resolved and all is working as it should!
Sorry for the last reply on this, glad you got it sorted.
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Android updated
ClientEye+ v2.8 Website
Clienteye v2.5 Playstore
Both versions have our much worked on extra description options (Translations/Linked details/reporting to admin) and our + Other Contact Information feature for you to link extra details (other numbers/usernames)
When reporting, you will have options to add a contacts other details as part of the process.
When viewing reports, each can be clicked to show any previously linked details, translation options & allow you to report any description to Admin.
Yes the update has more ads, but these are limited to an extra 3 per session. We hate them too but they go towards paying the bills.
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Hi... I am new here...
So, a new client has just texted me from [removed] and he says he wishes to meet me blah blah... Did the usual copying and pasting of his number into Client Eye as WE ALL DO.. But it comes up with this message: (Quote)
1 Spam reports
Caution 01/19 Saafe Reported
A partial number match may exist for this number. Please search www.saafe.info/main (replacing the last 2 digits with ** or xx) for more report details.
END OF QUOTE..
So what the heck does that mean? I've never come across this before on Client Eye??
So does that mean the client is dangerous or not? Because as I read it we DO NOT have a full number to work on? We only have a partial number according to Client Eye. And I've been using Client Eye for probably nearly a year now... But have never come across this? It means he is not necessarily guilty as yet, because maybe the last 2 digits on the report are different??
Before I reply to this client, how do I TELL 100% that he is a Timewaster?
And yeah, I've had to go to the trouble of joining this site just to find out... I mean I did what the LINK told me to do and follow saafe.info, but cannot find out what to do next?
Hope I am allowed on here being a gay escort, (and not female)? I'm also a member of THE GOOD ESCORT (for gay escorts) but its just DEAD on that forum, and I need help!! And also if I ask anything on that site, (due to "competition") between all those gay guys, you never get answered...
Having said ALL OF THE ABOVE, I HAVE actually MET 2 clients (independent of each other) who were actually ON "Client-Eye" as being Total Timewasters, and yet they both TURNED UP!!! Can you believe it?? I never even bothered getting ready cos it said they were "No Shows", so when they arrived , I was totally gobsmacked and had to say: "Oh -- I thought you would not turn up - sorry I've bothered getting ready, but if you want to crack on then we can do??" -- and each time they said yes!! Even though I was not showered, shaved or ready etc...
So -- you see -- "Client Eye" can sometimes be a double edged sword... However this one has the word CAUTION on it, so I'm a bit scared..
Cheers Will
P.S... I get the vibe on this site (by reading other posts) that we have to DELETE the final 2 digits of each clients number?? Is that right?? So I have gone ahead and edited this post, and deleted his last 2 digits.. But I still need to know if the guy is safe... He tells me his name is Ben, and is a First Timer...
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Hi Will and welcome to SAAFE!
I've merged your post in here since it isn't actually a warning (and yes, data protection laws mean that we can't publish full numbers here but they can be shared privately via the PM facility); there is a comprehensive Rules thread at the top of each Warnings board (which nobody reads, which is why all posts made there are moderated before they appear :)).
I don't use this app so can't help you with your question about it, but I'm sure somebody will be along who can before long.
EDIT: making heavy weather about being a first timer screams timewaster to me ;)
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Hi... I am new here...
So, a new client has just texted me from [removed] and he says he wishes to meet me blah blah... Did the usual copying and pasting of his number into Client Eye as WE ALL DO.. But it comes up with this message: (Quote)
1 Spam reports
Caution 01/19 Saafe Reported
A partial number match may exist for this number. Please search www.saafe.info/main (replacing the last 2 digits with ** or xx) for more report details.
END OF QUOTE..
So what the heck does that mean? I've never come across this before on Client Eye??
So does that mean the client is dangerous or not? Because as I read it we DO NOT have a full number to work on? We only have a partial number according to Client Eye. And I've been using Client Eye for probably nearly a year now... But have never come across this? It means he is not necessarily guilty as yet, because maybe the last 2 digits on the report are different??
Before I reply to this client, how do I TELL 100% that he is a Timewaster?
And yeah, I've had to go to the trouble of joining this site just to find out... I mean I did what the LINK told me to do and follow saafe.info, but cannot find out what to do next?
Hope I am allowed on here being a gay escort, (and not female)? I'm also a member of THE GOOD ESCORT (for gay escorts) but its just DEAD on that forum, and I need help!! And also if I ask anything on that site, (due to "competition") between all those gay guys, you never get answered...
Having said ALL OF THE ABOVE, I HAVE actually MET 2 clients (independent of each other) who were actually ON "Client-Eye" as being Total Timewasters, and yet they both TURNED UP!!! Can you believe it?? I never even bothered getting ready cos it said they were "No Shows", so when they arrived , I was totally gobsmacked and had to say: "Oh -- I thought you would not turn up - sorry I've bothered getting ready, but if you want to crack on then we can do??" -- and each time they said yes!! Even though I was not showered, shaved or ready etc...
So -- you see -- "Client Eye" can sometimes be a double edged sword... However this one has the word CAUTION on it, so I'm a bit scared..
Cheers Will
P.S... I get the vibe on this site (by reading other posts) that we have to DELETE the final 2 digits of each clients number?? Is that right?? So I have gone ahead and edited this post, and deleted his last 2 digits.. But I still need to know if the guy is safe... He tells me his name is Ben, and is a First Timer...
Put the phone number into the search box on this forum, replacing the last two digits of the number with **.
You will then see what the report on SAAFE says.
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WillP if a Client Eye report comes up as only having 1 report and that report says a partial number exists on Saafe it means that the phone number that called you has the majority of number digits that belongs to someone who has reported that number on Saafe. Client eye does not go into pacifics of that report as if you want to know you have to go onto the saafe website to find out what the report is sometimes it could just be a no show or a timewaster or it could be dangerous.
To do with reports of no shows on Client Eye or even Saafe they could very easily not show for others on one day could be they booked several and went with best option or they changed there mind and could not be bothered to cancel but turn up for another on another day to another sex worker that does happen so up to you to decide if you want to take a chance on someone who has messed another worker around, i personally avoid no shows with anybody but other workers will still book them in.
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Is client eye down? Not loading
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Is client eye down? Not loading
It’s working fine for me. However I did see on their tweet feed it was down between 5pm -6pm.
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Hi ClientEye,
I tried to put your new version it does not work. I did remove the 2.7 version. It download orderly,ask me permission to access my files but after get a message get client eye + and then on the bottom saying error.
Is it possible to email me the link on 2.7 version . The problem is everytime a new version appears, the older does not work and when the new one does not work it is not good for me .
Many thanks for your answers
What can I do,tried everything
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Hi ClientEye,
I tried to put your new version it does not work. I did remove the 2.7 version. It download orderly,ask me permission to access my files but after get a message get client eye + and then on the bottom saying error.
Is it possible to email me the link on 2.7 version . The problem is everytime a new version appears, the older does not work and when the new one does not work it is not good for me .
Many thanks for your answers
What can I do,tried everything
We believe this issue has now been resolved by email, if you are a different user with the same issues please email us.
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Hello ladies
I was hoping not to have to post on here but i have had an incident go too far [...]
We cannot reply directly to this user as we can only post in the spamming section.
It is NOT ACCEPTABLE for an app user to show clients any previous warnings, i'm very surprised anyone can think it is acceptable.
We have looked through our connection logs and have been able to identify the device this user was using and showing to the client, this users device has now been BANNED
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We cannot reply directly to this user as we can only post in the spamming section
If you have relevant information that will add to this warning you and any other advertiser can email it to the SAAFE admin address.
We have looked through our connection logs and have been able to identify the device this user was using and showing to the client, this users device has now been BANNED
How will this sex worker report any warnings to help others on this app if she is banned from using it?
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How will this sex worker report any warnings to help others on this app if she is banned from using it?
They won't be able to report or search numbers anymore. We have very few rules.
1. Do not inform clients if they have previous reports.
2. Do not report the same client for the same issue using 2 devices.
3. Do not post positive reports.
Every user sees these rules when reporting and are warned if they do so they may be banned.
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Client eye don't you mean the escort that showed the client Chelseagirl warnings being banned rather then Chelseagirl who had to put up with the abuse from the client for reporting him?
I had the same thing happen ages ago a client telling me he was shown warnings and had screenshots of them from another worker. It's very disappointing that ladies do this to score points or whatever reasons they have as it can put other ladies in danger as clients unhinged ones want revenge.
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Client eye don't you mean the escort that showed the client Chelseagirl warnings being banned rather then Chelseagirl who had to put up with the abuse from the client for reporting him?
Yes, to clarify, the worker who showed the client the reports has been banned.
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Yes, to clarify, the worker who showed the client the reports has been banned.
Good 👍🏽 I support tht move. It defeats the purpose of the app if u go about showing reports to clients.
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And back on topic please. This forum is not a platform for anyone to whinge or make judgemental comments about sex workers, and it is going to stop.
Equally, anybody who gets upset because other humans don't always behave the way they want them to is fighting a losing battle, to put it mildly - when I did outreach if we refused to support every sex worker who had harmed another sex worker in some way we'd have been taking an awful lot of condoms and sandwiches home. Lets hope the person concerned never has anything that might help others protect themselves to post before they've got a new SIM card.
We'll go back to the thread being the OP's unofficial customer service facility now :)
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Hi,
I got a new phone and installed client eye.
Everything seemed fine then I noticed reports aren’t showing up for me? They randomly just appear but this can be after 10mins+ and whenever it restarts it keeps happening. But client eye does note the amount of reports in the notification, but going onto app it then says 0 reports.
Tried reinstalling but no luck. Everythings approved in settings, nothings been denied.
Wasn’t sure if the ‘client eye support pages’ was for questions like this or not, so wrote here.
Thanks!
Edit to add I’m android.
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Wasn’t sure if the ‘client eye support pages’ was for questions like this or not, so wrote here.
Thanks!
Probably best to use the support pages in the app if you have that option ;)
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iOS Testflight v1.0.7(9) Released - Link available on our website
NEW FEATURES:
Our new reporting layout now allows users to add and link a contacts other details, i.e. Extra numbers, previous numbers, usernames & Email addresses in one reporting process.
Report descriptions are clickable and will open up a new page with translation options, listings of any previously linked details & report to ADMIN options.
Users can identify reports they have previously made, as they will appear to them in PURPLE
COMING SOON:
We are translating all our apps into 15 different languages, so users who's first language is not English can use our apps better.
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Forgot to add and can't edit the previous post.
We currently have 100,000 reports and receive on average 250 reports per day (7000+ per month), our apps are used by 1000's of users every day and we have deliver over 350,000 notifications per month. We have been operating for 2.5 years without charging any users, it's all FREE.
We have introduced ads into our Android and iOS apps, this currently generates about £100 per month which helps with running costs, we hate them as much as you do, so will be updating our apps soon with an option to switch off ads, again at no charge to the user.
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I realise the pop up ads are necessary to keep your app going but can you please get rid of the coffins. ⚰️ That image pops up every time l go on Client eye. The coffin has to go. Please ;) ;)
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I realise the pop up ads are necessary to keep your app going but can you please get rid of the coffins. ⚰️ That image pops up every time l go on Client eye. The coffin has to go. Please ;) ;)
Is that the straw or eco friendly ones ::) ? we don't control the content of the ads unfortunately.
After we have finished the languages update we are currently doing, we are working on a rewarded ad that if watched, will switch off ads for the rest of the day.
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Is that the straw or eco friendly ones ::) ? we don't control the content of the ads unfortunately.
After we have finished the languages update we are currently doing, we are working on a rewarded ad that if watched, will switch off ads for the rest of the day.
Yes, straw coffins. I don’t want to be reminded of death.
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Yes, straw coffins. I don’t want to be reminded of death.
If the ad appears again for you look for a small sideways triangle in one of the corners of the ad, click that and the word "adchoices" should appear, click that and you will be taken to an admob page where you can select "Stop seeing this ad" ... Hope this helps
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If the ad appears again for you look for a small sideways triangle in one of the corners of the ad, click that and the word "adchoices" should appear, click that and you will be taken to an admob page where you can select "Stop seeing this ad" ... Hope this helps
Am I correct in thinking the ads are related to your own personal activity on Google?
I was taken to Google when I clicked on the adchoices as instructed.
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Am I correct in thinking the ads are related to your own personal activity on Google?
I was taken to Google when I clicked on the adchoices as instructed.
I’ve never looked up coffins. ⚰️
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I’ve never looked up coffins. ⚰️
I've not looked up some of the things I see ads for....... But.......
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I've seen ads for things i have recently looked at maybe on eBay or amazon but then i may see random things ...... ::)
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Hi,
I just had a question about the linking numbers etc, hope it makes sense.
So I had reported someone on number 1. They then text me with number 2. So I put a report onto number 2, when I click link it with number 1 it says it’s reporting both numbers. So does that mean it will add an extra report onto number 1 and if so will I get in trouble because it’s then 2 reports by me on a single number.
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Hi,
I just had a question about the linking numbers etc, hope it makes sense.
So I had reported someone on number 1. They then text me with number 2. So I put a report onto number 2, when I click link it with number 1 it says it’s reporting both numbers. So does that mean it will add an extra report onto number 1 and if so will I get in trouble because it’s then 2 reports by me on a single number.
The linking system allows users to do exactly what you have done with no issues:
Client contacts you and you report them (1st report)
Client contacts you again from a DIFFERENT number and you enter a different report description for that 2nd number and LINK it to the 1st number (2nd report)
The report description for the linked 1st reported number will stay the same (description does not change upon linking)
The report description for the linked 2nd reported number will appear on the database as you have entered
In the background we LINK those 2 NUMBERS with their respective descriptions.
In the example of what you did, you have LINKED 2 DIFFERENT NUMBERS not reported the same contact for the same issue twice
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Hi CE. I've just installed your app and it has been showing reports in my current contacts list, but then it stops showing the reports. Also, nothing comes up when someone calls me. As I understand it, even people with no reports will still inform you of that. I have permissions turned on and wanted to ask what else I should do. I don't understand why my current contacts sometimes shows reports and then doesn't. Thankyou.
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I'm in a similar situation EnglishAmy. For the first idk couple of months it worked brilliantly, but now it doesn't show reports under my calls at all anymore. I've nearly been caught out a couple of times now and nearly taken a bad client but I've started double checking everything.
I'm cautious of taking calls now. So would love it if it's back to how it was showing reports under the incoming call
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Hopefully they'll get back to us soon. It's a lot of work for them for little money although I'd be happy to pay a small annual fee for this app to be honest. It is so worth it. I've done ok not using it before cos my screening is strict, but I think possibly too strict and I'm letting some good ones go. This app will help me if a number has no warnings but they don't sound completely my type and I'd usually turn them away. No reports swing me to seeing them maybe.
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I'm not crazy strict, I think I'm more tolerant than most and it seems to be working for me so far. But I rely heavily on CE and I'd also be happy to pay a small annual fee or something. It seems like a very small price to pay for safety, I'm not sure how I was lucky to have no incidents before hand.
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To answer all the above, it much depends on the device you are using:
iOS best to use our Testflight version which will allow you to enable ClientEye Caller id and give notifications on calls if they are reported and not already stored by you as a contact.
Android users, use our ClientEye+ version from our website to get all call/sms notifications, ensure you have opened the app and clicked into each section to allow CE permissions to access call/sms lists and give notifications as they come in.
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Thanks CE, it's working. Hope yours is too PC.
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Spoke too soon. No reports now showing up.
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Rebooted my phone and now working again.
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I downloaded it on my personal phone
I then check every number on it as I no longer get the warnings on my work phone with CE
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I downloaded it on my personal phone
I then check every number on it as I no longer get the warnings on my work phone with CE
Please email or DM us on twitter and we can get this resolved
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My client eye works half the time that's it
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I'm not sure where to find the testflight version of the app. I have an iPhone 7 plus, I tried to uninstall it and reinstall it but that didn't work
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My CE is all over the place. I get warnings of reports showing when they call and also added my own one today. But I can't read any of the reports and they don't show up in my contacts list. I've sent a support request.
PC, I think it's on the CE app page. Just Google them and scroll down their page and you should see it.
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My CE is all over the place. I get warnings of reports showing when they call and also added my own one today. But I can't read any of the reports and they don't show up in my contacts list. I've sent a support request.
PC, I think it's on the CE app page. Just Google them and scroll down their page and you should see it.
Most of the recent issues that have been mentioned in regards to not seeing reports have been due to an update we did 2 months ago.
The "Backend" testing update we did, restricted new installations from seeing report descriptions whilst still allowing report notifications to come through. The restriction cleared quite soon, once the user had built up a reporting or searching history, this was an attempt to stop clients being able to see any reports about themselves it never effected users who had already installed our apps. (Only new installations)
During the test of this update it has drastically reduced the ability for clients to see any reports on their numbers, HOWEVER it has also had an adverse effect on users with a new installs seeing the reports & believing the app to be broken so we will be removing or adapting this restriction next week.
We MAY be adapting to only showing report details to Verified users only, this has yet to be decided as we need to find an Auto way of doing it as it's physically not possible to verify 100's of accounts per day
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AHH I see, ok, thankyou. I'm ok with just being notified that a caller has reports without getting to see the reports, for now. I mean, that's the most important thing. Cos users aren't allowed to leave positive reports, then I know I won't see them as all reports are negative.
It's weird though because I did get to see one callers one report which was a no show situation. I actually booked him in and double booked deliberately, and yes he was a no show so I added that. But yeah, thought you should know one report I could see.
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My client eye app is completely freaking out right now? Wont load, just flipping between blank screen and loading “syncing” message.
I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled, tried the test flight version and that’s worse.
Can’t click on anything in the app, and obviously can’t check numbers !? Ehhhh :(
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I've had the same problems today EveEveEve. Unfortunately I gave 2 time wasters the time of day because of it.
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I've had the same problems today EveEveEve. Unfortunately I gave 2 time wasters the time of day because of it.
I’ve checked it on all my phones and it must be an app issue - hopefully it’s fixed soon!
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Hi,
I submitted some details earlier. While I was able to enter his name, number and email, the accompanying details/'report' did not upload. I would like to add this detail but am not sure how to do so because if I do, it will be an additional report from my device.
Please can you advise.
Thanks!
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We had a 4hr outage today, caused by an SSL security certificate expiring 3 mths prior to when it was due, this caused ALL apps to either flash, fail to start, unable to search or report. We contacted our web server hosts who said they were at fault for not updating the SSL expiry correctly. :FF :FF :FF
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Very frustrating but hopefully it's sorted now! I've been able to get back on to mine and update the reports I needed to make :) I hope everyone's is back to normal now
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Quick note. On the latest (current?) version, notifications don't work on the HTC Desire 20. It doesn't crash the whole machine as my M8 HTC used to, and I can manually search no problem. But no pop ups for calls and texts. Have done all the permissions.
Working perfectly on my OnePlus 5 so I've reverted back to that handset. Send me a pm if you want any help with device testing on the HTC. I suspect its the proprietary HTC Sense interface which is causing difficulties.
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Well. All my reports are saying restricted to verified users now. Think it's in Spanish and then in English 🤔.
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Sorted mine. Thanks
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Well. All my reports are saying restricted to verified users now. Think it's in Spanish and then in English 🤔.
This happened to me this afternoon too. I started a new 'support request' thing in the app and they fixed it pretty much straight away.
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The main thing is we can see they have reports even if can't read them. I think it's going through updates to stop punters downloading it, which is good.
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We are transitioning from a fully open system to a more protective one.
The reason for this is we are becoming more well known in circles we would rather not, some users are telling clients they have been reported and they are in turn making GDPR requests with us, mostly unsuccessfully. These clients are also seeing reports on them and giving abuse to the original reporter if they suspect who it is, they are also giving abuse to the wrong users when they wrongly suspect.
The new system will ONLY restict unverified users ( those with a low searching or reporting history ), restricted users will still be able to see the amount of reports and the report type but will not see the report description ( THIS IS TO PROTECT THE ORIGINAL REPORTER )
None of the updates done today restrict existing users who have a reporting history and will only effect a small number of people or those with a recent installation.
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Recent installation- does that include if I’ve recently uninstalled and installed again?
If so, damn, I tried uninstalling the other day when it was acting up.
Being restricted is going to be a bit annoying for me haha
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Recent installation- does that include if I’ve recently uninstalled and installed again?
If so, damn, I tried uninstalling the other day when it was acting up.
Being restricted is going to be a bit annoying for me haha
Contact us on twitter or by the app support system and we will see what can be done
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We are transitioning from a fully open system to a more protective one.
The reason for this is we are becoming more well known in circles we would rather not, some users are telling clients they have been reported and they are in turn making GDPR requests with us, mostly unsuccessfully. These clients are also seeing reports on them and giving abuse to the original reporter if they suspect who it is, they are also giving abuse to the wrong users when they wrongly suspect.
The new system will ONLY restict unverified users ( those with a low searching or reporting history ), restricted users will still be able to see the amount of reports and the report type but will not see the report description ( THIS IS TO PROTECT THE ORIGINAL REPORTER )
None of the updates done today restrict existing users who have a reporting history and will only effect a small number of people or those with a recent installation.
I think the changes are a great move - thank you.
In terms of verifying will there be a process set up to allow us to do so in future as some warnings I’d take with a pinch of salt or ask for deposit etc but I feel a bit uncomfortable at not being able to see those of a more serious nature. I do have people I can check with but I can’t guarantee I’ll always have someone.
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I would imagine if people have to reinstall the app if they have a history of reporting there i.p details/phone details Client eye would know this and there a genuine member with history and not a client pretending to be a SW.
What happens if we change phones at some point what about our history of reporting how would that work?
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I would imagine if people have to reinstall the app if they have a history of reporting there i.p details/phone details Client eye would know this and there a genuine member with history and not a client pretending to be a SW.
What happens if we change phones at some point what about our history of reporting how would that work?
We don't collect a users ip or their phone number , we only collect a random installation number and look at the hoistory of that random number to decide on verification status. A new installation into a new phone would make that device unverified until a history had been built up.
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We cannot disclose exactly how we verify accounts, as others ( we know who ) could use the information to their advantage.
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Thanks Client eye. It's a shame the app has been abused and info given to clients but the verify situation makes sense til someone has built up a genuine history to show there a sex worker.
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We cannot disclose exactly how we verify accounts, as others ( we know who ) could use the information to their advantage.
Understood and appreciate the response. Thanks.
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How do I link 2 numbers together for the same person?
I think I read on here at some point that was possible,
When the same pleb is messaging from 2 different numbers.
Thanks x
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Hi CE. I sent you a message through the app a few days ago re verification bit no reply as yet. I go to the envelope icon and create the ticket there, but when I go into that section it just says 'create a new support request' etc. Is this area where you answer me? Thankyou.
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Hi CE. I sent you a message through the app a few days ago re verification bit no reply as yet. I go to the envelope icon and create the ticket there, but when I go into that section it just says 'create a new support request' etc. Is this area where you answer me? Thankyou.
We did reply yes, can you dm us on Twitter or email us if the support ticket system isn't working for you.
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It's really awful now, despite working for 2 years and reporting all bad guys I'm not verified because I recently changed my phone! I can't see any reports and now I'm anxious to meet a guy even with one report when normally some of the were genuine.
If it's all about installation, now after every app update I'll be unverified? Is it possible to proof you somehow my app usage so you can make me verified member?
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It's really awful now, despite working for 2 years and reporting all bad guys I'm not verified because I recently changed my phone! I can't see any reports and now I'm anxious to meet a guy even with one report when normally some of the were genuine.
If it's all about installation, now after every app update I'll be unverified? Is it possible to proof you somehow my app usage so you can make me verified member?
Contact them via their Twitter account, and explain to them.
They had to take this step to prevent easy access to submitted reports.
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Hi,
I've put a support ticket up in the app to remove a number that I pasted in by mistake?
Is that the correct thing to do to get the number removed?
Thanks.
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It might be easier for me to message you on Twitter, Emma.
I should have mentioned that the original number you gave me for contacting you about mistakes with reporting actually has a report on the page.
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How do I link 2 numbers together for the same person?
I think I read on here at some point that was possible,
When the same pleb is messaging from 2 different numbers.
Thanks x
Wi h android or our iOS test flight version you can, when making a report, add other numbers in the +linked details section
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It might be easier for me to message you on Twitter, Emma.
I should have mentioned that the original number you gave me for contacting you about mistakes with reporting actually has a report on the page.
Is it the one with the "hornyboy" username in it ?
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Been asked to explain a few more of the extras our apps can now allow you to do. (Android & iOS testflight all linked on our website)
Users can link a contacts other details together by reporting one number and adding other numbers/usernames/emails in the +Linked details sections.
Each report description is clickable and opens up other options, these include description translation options, a delete report feature if it's your report and you are verified i.e. the report appears bold and in purple, and a report to admin feature if the report breaks any of the conditions listed i.e. contains full names, addresses, swearing or appears as a positive report which we do not allow.
Our app now has 13 translations, click the setting icon on the top of the app for the language switching options to appear.
We are now working on an Android feature for users to be able to watch one ad and it then disable all other ads for the rest of the day, this is our solution to keeping the apps free to use whilst still being able to generate revenue to keep the apps going.
We will then start work on the language update for our iOS testflight app.
We have a total of 120,000 reports, approx 8000+ new reports per month, we deliver 450,000 notifications per month &, have an average of 5000+ monthly users.
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Okay so I don’t know if anyone feels the same way or if I’m just being an asshole, but when I see that someone’s put a report in and they put in “please use caution when dealing with this contact” I find it incredibly frustrating. I don’t know if anyone feels the same way?
The problem I find is that the message above could mean literally anything. Did the client steal from you? Did he not turn up? Was he smelly? Did he stealth you? It makes me wary of the client obviously but I find that I take the report less seriously because I have no idea what it could mean. Idk I could be wrong but maybe something to keep in mind
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I would imagine Client Eye has picked up a report from saafe or NUM and there saving time by telling you there is a warning somewhere but they don't have the time to write in all reports othetwise there be there forever. So the more detail reports of what happened is written by us not a third party. So it makes sense to me they do not have the time to write themselves all the details of every third party report.
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Okay so I don’t know if anyone feels the same way or if I’m just being an asshole, but when I see that someone’s put a report in and they put in “please use caution when dealing with this contact” I find it incredibly frustrating. I don’t know if anyone feels the same way?
The problem I find is that the message above could mean literally anything. Did the client steal from you? Did he not turn up? Was he smelly? Did he stealth you? It makes me wary of the client obviously but I find that I take the report less seriously because I have no idea what it could mean. Idk I could be wrong but maybe something to keep in mind
The “Please use caution when dealing with this contact” report descriptions account for 5% of the total reports we have received, for 2021 this has reduced to 2.2% of reports.
This is the default text that is placed by our system when a reporter has not entered any report description.
The report "TYPE" has been chosen by the reporter to give an indication of the issue.
We have in the past restricted users posting blank reports, with a text minimum limitation and we received reports saying "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" or "?????????????" so we have a choice, Blank reports, reports with numerous characters or placing some default text
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The “Please use caution when dealing with this contact” report descriptions account for 5% of the total reports we have received, for 2021 this has reduced to 2.2% of reports.
This is the default text that is placed by our system when a reporter has not entered any report description.
The report "TYPE" has been chosen by the reporter to give an indication of the issue.
We have in the past restricted users posting blank reports, with a text minimum limitation and we received reports saying "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" or "?????????????" so we have a choice, Blank reports, reports with numerous characters or placing some default text
I had to default to this option when filing a report a week or so ago, but had written a few notes to accompany the 'please with caution note' along with linking the client's name, number and email. Although I successfully upload all his details, my statement did not upload, and that was frustrating as I had expanded on why caution was needed.
I did mention I had an issue in this thread but that was at the point there were some sever issues with CE.
Anyway, proceed with caution is exactly that, to be cautious when dealing with a client as he is problematic in some way. Regarding the man I was trying to link, he's a known time waster but there are other problems that I felt were more relevant and why I didn't report him as a time waster.
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Unfortunately CE is not working still on my HTC. I can launch the app, but have to manually search numbers rather than getting a pop up. HTC has their own Android UI so I'd imagine that's the problem. I'd be happy to help with testing if you send me a PM.
So I reverted back to my OnePlus which works perfectly.
I do wish you would give us an option to pay a fee to drop the ads. It's very jarring if it happens to pop up during a boking.
A few clients have said to me that people have maliciuously reported them. Maybe there could be a little flag saying "This warning has been reported as false" ?
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A few clients have said to me that people have maliciuously reported them. Maybe there could be a little flag saying "This warning has been reported as false" ?
Surely that would be open to abuse, after all, what would stop clients flagging reports?
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Unfortunately CE is not working still on my HTC. I can launch the app, but have to manually search numbers rather than getting a pop up. HTC has their own Android UI so I'd imagine that's the problem. I'd be happy to help with testing if you send me a PM.
So I reverted back to my OnePlus which works perfectly.
We are unable to PM via Saafe, it does look like a HTC UI issue rather than an android one, unfortunately if we adapt to one device it would probably cause issues with others.
I do wish you would give us an option to pay a fee to drop the ads. It's very jarring if it happens to pop up during a boking.
The next Android update will have a feature to switch off ads
A few clients have said to me that people have maliciuously reported them. Maybe there could be a little flag saying "This warning has been reported as false" ?
Can you imagine the number of reports that would be flagged ? ..... Anyone that's ever been reported would flag every report they had ever received, best in our opinion to let the user decide if to believe any descriptions they may read and if there are multiple reports saying simular things.
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Yeah that's a fair point. I'd rather stick to warnings than some kind of dispute system!
Look forward to switching off ads.
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Yep lol any man that knew he had a report would be flagging the report. No man with bad reports would admit to being a horrible man/causing a problem or a look and go that has not paid a fee for wasting our time. They would just make up excuses or completely deny it and make out it must be for another client.
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I for one would be happy to pay a fee for this app especially as it's going to sex workers. Anonymous payment option would be fab.
Re fraudulent reports etc, what I'd do is if I saw just one report but the guy sounded businesslike on the phone, I might give them a chance. Think we still have to use our own nous. It is such a brilliant app.
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I soppose what prompted me post was seeing a couple of client who have warnings but are totally fine with me. (arrogants dickheads but not dangerous.) One of them I've seen at least 6 times and he's said on the last time "Ohh I was surprised you saw me because I know I;ve been blacklisted on a certain site."
I'm very glad that the *bold* function works on CE.
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I think we have to use our own judgement if we decline or take a booking. I have seen a couple of people that turned up for me twice with no probs but not cancelled other's so they had a bad report for timewasting.
Dangerous reports i think we have to take serious as it's a big risk so i would never ever accept them or any man that tries to take money back through intimidation as that is robbery.
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I like the app a lot as it has saved me from encountering dangerous clients which have been reported. As for the timewasters reported on the app , I take their bookings with caution ( making sure I have a plan b ,just in case ,he doesn’t show up ) and hope for the best.
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I like the app a lot as it has saved me from encountering dangerous clients which have been reported...
Exactly, MB!
The same for me!
Despite its flaws, I, for one, am extremely grateful for this app.
Thank you, Emma.
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I find CE supportive and allows me to make my own judgement.
50% of those who have a CE report so far have lived up to whatever was reported being unreliable, their MO, no shows shows, cancellation reasons/methods.
Others have been fine and the occasional pre-CE regular mentioned in there has never been a problem.
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V.C Maybe your client didn't go into why he was blacklisted but I bet my old gran there's a valid reason.also it's interesting he knew.
I agree with the point that some clients opt to be charming with some sw and shytty with others. A reg told me he humiliated other sw for sport. If you choose to engage with wasters rude and no shows thats your gamble and great if it turns out fine.But I think they should have permanent warnings and not be allowed to remove them.
On the further extreme of nice one day nasty the next...a member here had a reg who murdered his wife, visited her then went off and killed himself.He was nice as pie with her.
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V.C Maybe your client didn't go into why he was blacklisted but I bet my old gran there's a valid reason.also it's interesting he knew.
His side of the story was that she gave a shit service, then texted him asking he reviewed her on a well-known punting forum. He said no, your service was shit. It snowballed from there. I absolutely take this with a pinch of salt (or more like a lump)
On the further extreme a member here had a reg who murdered his wife, visited her then went off and killed himself.he was nice as pie with her.
Fucking ell that's terrifying.
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I absolutely take this with a pinch of salt (or more like a lump)...
Haha!
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Saltysweet that’s terrifying! It goes to show you don’t know who is behind the booking.
I didn’t realise that the “use caution” was a CE posting … whoops. I try to give details so the next sw can make up their own mind. I take some old singular warnings with a pinch of salt. But anything recent or numerous I just avoid.
Didn’t want to sound ungrateful. CE is an incredible app and invaluable in my opinion. I think back to when I didn’t know about it and it scares me the situations I could’ve been in.
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Interesting VC, thanks for the insight.
Yes VC and Pinkest that incident was quite heart of darkness. You couldn't make it up.
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We had some downtime tonight for about 50 minutes, this was caused by a server file failing and it took time to locate and fix.
Please remember, we are a team of 2 people working 14-16hrs a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, for almost 3 years for £0 per day. We make nothing from the app.
When problems happen please don't be emailing us complaining, we are always doing our best. :angel:
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Client eye there is many of us that really appreciate your hard work to keep us safe and like you said your not doing it for profit. It's not realistic to expect perfection with the app and i certainly don't.
Sorry your getting moaned at especially with such a great idea and invention.
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We had some downtime tonight for about 50 minutes, this was caused by a server file failing and it took time to locate and fix.
Please remember, we are a team of 2 people working 14-16hrs a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, for almost 3 years for £0 per day. We make nothing from the app.
When problems happen please don't be emailing us complaining, we are always doing our best. :angel:
I hope you know how much you are appreciated. You’re an invaluable service to many. 🖤
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I would be happy for you to place a charge and pay for your time.
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I would be happy for you to place a charge and pay for your time.
I would as well
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I would be happy for you to place a charge and pay for your time.
Me too
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I’d be lost without ClientEye and being able to screen gents before I meet/potentially meet. Has saved me from so many time wasters.
Thank you <3
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Thanks for all the positive comments, it keeps us going :angel: :angel: :angel:
The next update for Android will include an extra ad placement BUT before anyone complains this ad is different, if you watch a 15-30 second ad, the reward for doing so will be the removal of ALL ADS for the rest of the day. This will help generate some revenue to cover the ever-increasing costs and still keep the apps free.
We "Maybe" also including a link in the app notifications/settings tab where users can support us each month & permanently remove the ads from the app, we are still very much conflicted on this and are trying to find a level and mixture everyone (MOST) would be happy with.
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How I would love to tell these guys they've been reported. Obviously I won't, but I just had a guy call who I'd usually not see but no reports (well he has one now) so thought I'd chance it. (Also had great punters I usually wouldn't chance.) He cancelled by text 5 mins before. I'd just love to text back, "fine but I've reported you", or, "fine, escorts have a new blacklist for unsuitable punters and you're now in the system". I bet they'd think twice about misbehaving if they knew there was such a thing.
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How I would love to tell these guys they've been reported. Obviously I won't, but I just had a guy call who I'd usually not see but no reports (well he has one now) so thought I'd chance it. (Also had great punters I usually wouldn't chance.) He cancelled by text 5 mins before. I'd just love to text back, "fine but I've reported you", or, "fine, escorts have a new blacklist for unsuitable punters and you're now in the system". I bet they'd think twice about misbehaving if they knew there was such a thing.
No. They would simply get another sim and change it every time they book an escort.
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Yes but what an inconvenience for them.
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Thanks for all the positive comments, it keeps us going :angel: :angel: :angel:
The next update for Android will include an extra ad placement BUT before anyone complains this ad is different, if you watch a 15-30 second ad, the reward for doing so will be the removal of ALL ADS for the rest of the day. This will help generate some revenue to cover the ever-increasing costs and still keep the apps free.
We "Maybe" also including a link in the app notifications/settings tab where users can support us each month & permanently remove the ads from the app, we are still very much conflicted on this and are trying to find a level and mixture everyone (MOST) would be happy with.
Is this something that will pop up automatically, or is it a "click here to watch an ad and get no ads for the rest of the day"?
What I find jarring is when I open CE on my work phone and it goes straight to ad display so my phone starts making a noise. I do not want a sound! I don't want to alert clients I'm using it!
Sorry that I haven't read through all previous pages but are you an NUM connected or networked in any way? I've been on a few NUM focus groups (via zoom) and they've been really useful. It seems like they would have the groundwork and connections to really help CE become an industry standard tool.
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Hi Client eye.
I'm using true caller to help with blocking my calls and until recently client eye was popping up notifications so I could screen before pick up.
However it seems to have stopped working. I'm having to manually copy over the numbers and having to call back.
I'm sure its user error on my behalf but do you have any tips. I seem to have lost ability to check calls and texts.
I'm on an android 6.0.1 - S5
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Is this something that will pop up automatically, or is it a "click here to watch an ad and get no ads for the rest of the day"?
It will be an ad that will display "watch an ad and get no ads for the rest of the day" with a close button so users can choose to close and ignore or watch the ad and remove all ads for the rest of the day.
What I find jarring is when I open CE on my work phone and it goes straight to ad display so my phone starts making a noise. I do not want a sound! I don't want to alert clients I'm using it!
The rewarded ads if watched would also stop theses ads showing, what we are hoping is that users, when they start their day, will open the app Search a random number, watch the rewarded ad and then be ready to take calls knowing there will no further ad interruptions. The revenue from the rewarded ad should be equal to that of ads just displaying without being clicked.
Sorry that I haven't read through all previous pages but are you an NUM connected or networked in any way? I've been on a few NUM focus groups (via zoom) and they've been really useful. It seems like they would have the groundwork and connections to really help CE become an industry standard tool.
We have had a few conversations with NUM but we are not connected or networked in anyway, we both take slightly different approaches to the type of reports we receive and how they display.
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Hi Client eye.
I'm using true caller to help with blocking my calls and until recently client eye was popping up notifications so I could screen before pick up.
However it seems to have stopped working. I'm having to manually copy over the numbers and having to call back.
I'm sure its user error on my behalf but do you have any tips. I seem to have lost ability to check calls and texts.
I'm on an android 6.0.1 - S5
Firstly ensure you are using ClientEye+ from our website as this is the only app that is capable of displaying call/SMS notifications and ensure they are enabled from within the app.
Secondly apps like "Truecaller" actually change the android default call handler to their own, ClientEye can ONLY monitor and read the android default call handler so any issue MAY be caused by this.
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It’s was user error I hadn’t done the plus version. True caller so far works well. Personally I like the two because when I get a warning flag on client eye I use true caller to block them but appreciate this might not work on all phones.
Very handy when you get one with 49 warnings.
Keep up the great work and if I can ever send a donation for your hard work in keeping us safe
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Maybe you guys could think about producing a paid version as a separate app? I'd very happily pay, say, £10 per month or £60 annually to have it ad free (as well as knowing I'm helping support you guys)
I don't know if that would be easier to implement than a paid version within the one app?
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Maybe you guys could think about producing a paid version as a separate app? I'd very happily pay, say, £10 per month or £60 annually to have it ad free (as well as knowing I'm helping support you guys)
I don't know if that would be easier to implement than a paid version within the one app?
Whist is great to know someone would pay for our apps we know others may object to any cost, IF we go down that route it would be easier to have a mixed, with ads/without ads app, and give all users the option to decide.
Our current thoughts ( if we go that way ) are, watch an ad then the app is ad free for the rest of the day, or totally ad free for £2.99 per month / £24.99 for the year
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Our current thoughts ( if we go that way ) are, watch an ad then the app is ad free for the rest of the day, or totally ad free for £2.99 per month / £24.99 for the year
I think that would be excellent value.
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Me too VC.
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Does anyone have the call identification turned on to screen calls as they come through? My work phone is an iPhone 6 Plus and I’ve not been able to turn it on. Underneath CE it says call blocking and identification apps are not able to access any information about your incoming calls.
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Whist is great to know someone would pay for our apps we know others may object to any cost, IF we go down that route it would be easier to have a mixed, with ads/without ads app, and give all users the option to decide.
Our current thoughts ( if we go that way ) are, watch an ad then the app is ad free for the rest of the day, or totally ad free for £2.99 per month / £24.99 for the year
I would def pay for it because I hate having to watch crap adverts 😂
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Does anyone have the call identification turned on to screen calls as they come through? My work phone is an iPhone 6 Plus and I’ve not been able to turn it on. Underneath CE it says call blocking and identification apps are not able to access any information about your incoming calls.
I can't help with iPhones sorry, but I would never use an Apple device for work purposes. Anything I can't just plug into my laptop and access all files is a no no for me.
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Does anyone have the call identification turned on to screen calls as they come through? My work phone is an iPhone 6 Plus and I’ve not been able to turn it on. Underneath CE it says call blocking and identification apps are not able to access any information about your incoming calls.
This can happen on some iOS devices as the firmware for iOS keeps changing, out iOS testflight version should have this issue fixed, see our website for the link.
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iOS Testflight updated to v1.0.7(14) Features:
Reports with link icon displaying next to report type indicate other details are available
Delete report function for Verified users
Link available on our website :angel:
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In the next few weeks, we will be making some backend changes to restrict who and who cannot see the reports in our apps.
Long time genuine users of the app will not be affected, these changes are to restrict none genuine users from being able to see any report descriptions, for OBVIOUS reasons we will not go into the full details on what these restrictions will be, but, if you are a genuine user, and notice any unexpected changes, we can always be contacted by E-mail/Twitter/app support system to rectify.
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Ok so obviously to avoid undesirables using the app that are not even sex workers it's best to contact you on there for instance if we changed phones and were not verified to see all reports with the phone change?
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Ok so obviously to avoid undesirables using the app that are not even sex workers it's best to contact you on there for instance if we changed phones and were not verified to see all reports with the phone change?
100% correct
There is a massive difference between how a worker and a client uses our apps, we can see this via different trends and metrics.
If you have a new phone, we have no idea which one you are, so by default, it will be restricted in some way when we make the changes. Genuine users can contact us to remove any restrictions, and we will ALWAYS verify in different ways to ensure clients can never get verified.
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Excellent idea Client Eye. I knew these changes would need to happen the more it became popular and nobody wants to be harassed by men just for reporting there behaviour. We all need to feel safe but still able to be honest.
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In the next few weeks, we will be making some backend changes to restrict who and who cannot see the reports in our apps.
Long time genuine users of the app will not be affected, these changes are to restrict none genuine users from being able to see any report descriptions, for OBVIOUS reasons we will not go into the full details on what these restrictions will be, but, if you are a genuine user, and notice any unexpected changes, we can always be contacted by E-mail/Twitter/app support system to rectify.
This is excellent news! Thank you Emma/CE!
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Thank you CE for being proactive with this.
If you have a new phone, we have no idea which one you are, so by default, it will be restricted in some way when we make the changes
Can I clarify - by "new phone" do you mean a new number? Rather than a new handset?
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Thank you CE for being proactive with this.
Can I clarify - by "new phone" do you mean a new number? Rather than a new handset?
It would be a "New handset" or a new installation of the app, we never read the number accessing our apps so have no record of sim details.
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Ah ok, makes sense. Thanks!
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Emma, in response to an invitation in your app, I have just bought CE all of 5 coffees.
Enjoy!
;D
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Emma, in response to an invitation in your app, I have just bought CE all of 5 coffees.
Enjoy!
;D
:angel: :angel: :angel: Thank you :)
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Can anyone tell me if that's an anonymous way to donate please?
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Can anyone tell me if that's an anonymous way to donate please?
We only see the email address and any name you may have entered ie "English Amy" , believe there are options to ensure any donation appears anonymous
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Haha love all the celebration sprinklies :) I wish I got them when I buy a real coffee !
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...believe there are options to ensure any donation appears anonymous
To ensure anonymity as a donor, this is a matter of ticking the "private" option if you leave a message after you have donated. By doing so, you prevent your name from being publicly displayed.
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Haha love all the celebration sprinklies :) I wish I got them when I buy a real coffee !
Haha!
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Haha love all the celebration sprinklies :) I wish I got them when I buy a real coffee !
😂🤣they are the best part , I felt special
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😂🤣they are the best part , I felt special
Haha!
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We have done the backend changes we spoke about the other week
The changes we have put in place are to restrict who, and who cannot see report descriptions. Genuine users of our apps should not notice any changes.
IF you are a genuine user and you do notice any changes, please either E-mail, DM on Twitter, or use the support system in the app if you have this feature, we cannot go into detail on a public forum on what the restrictions are, or how to have them removed.
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My worst day for timewasters was one Saturday when I'd not long moved to a new town, I put my green light on at 12 noon and off at 12 midnight.
During that time, 32 individual people contacted me. Of those, 8 booked an incall slot- I had them booked in basically back to back all day. Of those 8, only 2 turned up!!
But since I've started checking every number on the ClientEye app, things have got so much better. The app is a lifesaver in terms of filtering out the timewasters and worse.
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We have done the backend changes we spoke about the other week
The changes we have put in place are to restrict who, and who cannot see report descriptions. Genuine users of our apps should not notice any changes.
IF you are a genuine user and you do notice any changes, please either E-mail, DM on Twitter, or use the support system in the app if you have this feature, we cannot go into detail on a public forum on what the restrictions are, or how to have them removed.
We have had a few emails regarding this, if you have sent us an E-mail please look at your Junk/Spam folders for our replies. :angel:
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APP UPDATES In the next few days we will be releasing the following.
iOS - Testflight, will release to fix a banner linking issue we found.
Android ( ClientEye & ClientEye+ ) will be released with the ability for users to remove the ads in the app.
Our banners currently show a link to our subscription pages, (payment links disabled), any user who expresses an interest in going ad-free via the link on that page (pre-release) will have ads disabled for the first 2 weeks after release to thank them for showing pre-release interest.
The banner will show "Don't like ads? No ads" click it. message us from that page, and we will do the rest :)
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Client eye was working coming up with a notification when someone called or text me. Now it stoped working does anyone know what I can do. I’m on Android
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Client eye was working coming up with a notification when someone called or text me. Now it stoped working does anyone know what I can do. I’m on Android
Ensure you are using ClientEye+ from our website as ClientEye from the playstore does not have these features, open the app and click into each of the sections i.e. List / Contacts / SMS and accept any permissions that may be requested. Also check the settings icon on the top set of icons to ensure notifications are switched on.
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The ads definitely access Google activity, I ordered something obscure yesterday.
Something I've never ordered online previously, never popped up in any advert, not something people would think of.
Used Client Eye later that day, the ad was for the really obscure thing I ordered.
Think of say a really specific tool, or part for something specific.
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The ads definitely access Google activity, I ordered something obscure yesterday.
Something I've never ordered online previously, never popped up in any advert, not something people would think of.
Used Client Eye later that day, the ad was for the really obscure thing I ordered.
Think of say a really specific tool, or part for something specific.
Thats how google advertising works so well for the advertisers, you look at something random and google knows then starts to deliver ads in relation to it ... Mine is full of Jet2holidays at the moment ::)
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Cookies. CE, you only get paid if we click on an advert don't you? Btw don't everyone start clicking repeatedly cos the algorithms will catch on.
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Thats how google advertising works so well for the advertisers, you look at something random and google knows then starts to deliver ads in relation to it ... Mine is full of Jet2holidays at the moment ::)
I hope you are well
I wanted to let you know of a problem that I have encountered along with other girls. When we try to get client eye to provide live call notifications it does not allow us to enable it.
The error message is that 'failed to request data for client eye. you may try enabling the extension again, and if the problem persists, contact the application developer'
I am not sure whether its because I am on Ios apple software? My phone and software are up to date though :(
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I hope you are well
I wanted to let you know of a problem that I have encountered along with other girls. When we try to get client eye to provide live call notifications it does not allow us to enable it.
The error message is that 'failed to request data for client eye. you may try enabling the extension again, and if the problem persists, contact the application developer'
I am not sure whether its because I am on Ios apple software? My phone and software are up to date though :(
I was having the same issue but find the test flight version has been more effective though occasionally needs refreshing to sync contacts but I still check manually to be sure. X
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Is there a bug for iPhones? As there is always a problem every week with the app not opening up on iPhones.
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Op, get Client Eye if you've not heard of it. It's a free app that connects punter numbers to bad reports so that will help a lot.
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Post above moved, although it admittedly doesn't make a lot of sense. The advertising thread for this app is this one] and I'm sure they'll be glad of the bump.
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Thanks, Amy and apologies.
CE I made a mistake earlier and reported a number as a no show but he called me to say he was running late. My fault as I should have waited but I don't think I can delete it?
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Thanks, Amy and apologies.
CE I made a mistake earlier and reported a number as a no show but he called me to say he was running late. My fault as I should have waited but I don't think I can delete it?
I think there's a direct email address for them on their website.
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Hi Mirror. Ok will do that then, thanks.
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I think there's a direct email address for them on their website.
Responded to your ticket request and adding here for clarity.
This can be done yourself as you are verified, select the report description you made and a delete option will appear to you.
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Oops responded to the wrong person but the same goes, all android verified users can delete their own reports from within the app.
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Got it CE, and deleted, thanks.
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Hi all,
I have "Client eye" on my phone but finding it a pain as I can't get "Client eye Lite" now.
Is there any other similar apps to try?
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Hi all,
I have "Client eye" on my phone but finding it a pain as I can't get "Client eye Lite" now.
Is there any other similar apps to try?
ClientEye LITE was the old name for what is now called ClientEye on the playstore
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ClientEye LITE was the old name for what is now called ClientEye on the playstore
I did download that one but couldn't bring call and messages up, I have now client eye + but need verifying.
Any advice please? Thanks
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I did download that one but couldn't bring call and messages up, I have now client eye + but need verifying.
Any advice please? Thanks
Click the envelope icon in the app to start a support ticket
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Click the envelope icon in the app to start a support ticket
Hi I sent a support message last week about redownloading client eye on my phone and now all details don’t show up when I search numbers. I also have a new phone I use specifically for AW I’ll like verified too, I did send my AW profile link and vivastreet ad to confirm it’s the same person using both numbers but I haven’t heard back.
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Hi I sent a support message last week about redownloading client eye on my phone and now all details don’t show up when I search numbers. I also have a new phone I use specifically for AW I’ll like verified too, I did send my AW profile link and vivastreet ad to confirm it’s the same person using both numbers but I haven’t heard back.
We reply to every message we receive, either via an auto support ticket reply, by email, or by contacting via any linked AW VS details supplied. If we do not get a reply within 48hrs we delete the request.
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We reply to every message we receive, either via an auto support ticket reply, by email, or by contacting via any linked AW VS details supplied. If we do not get a reply within 48hrs we delete the request.
Hi I definitely wasn’t contacted via either numbers supplied, I’ll fill the form again. I also sent a text to the verification number you guys used last time I had to verify about a report I wanted removed but didn’t get a response.
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Hi I definitely wasn’t contacted via either numbers supplied, I’ll fill the form again. I also sent a text to the verification number you guys used last time I had to verify about a report I wanted removed but didn’t get a response.
We verify in different ways, via different methods each time, we try not to be consistent in just one process so others (Clients) cannot subvert and attempt to get verified.
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When users wish to have restrictions removed from their installations we ask for some basic info.
1. A link to any advertising profiles
2. A contact telephone number.
This is requested on our website contact forms and in any auto-reply via our app support ticketing system.
When we start the verification we may email back, send a message via AW or VS systems, look at websites, find any linked Twitter profiles and DM or actually call or send an SMS, it WILL be different every time. We may also look at a user's unique id and look at the reporting/searching history before lifting any restriction.
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Is anyone having issues with it today?
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Yeah I’m having a connection lost / some kind of $ message.
Happened the other day too but was up and running when I checked later on. So hopefully same outcome here :)
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We had 3hrs downtime earlier today which thankfully has now been fixed.
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Smh 🤦🏽♀️…still not opening on my end
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Can you link an id without creating a new report?
A few months ago I created a note on a mobile due to being a time waster but without giving too much away I can see he’s more active. I know I can add the AW name but does this mean a new report.
He did try to contact again thankfully I’ve got him saved and told him to delete my number and never contact me again.
I give it 3 weeks
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Can you link an id without creating a new report?
A few months ago I created a note on a mobile due to being a time waster but without giving too much away I can see he’s more active. I know I can add the AW name but does this mean a new report.
He did try to contact again thankfully I’ve got him saved and told him to delete my number and never contact me again.
I give it 3 weeks
If you have previously reported their number and want to report his username now & link the 2 together, then search for the username click on +REPORT and add the previously reported telephone number in the additional details field, enter in your report description, and submit.
Our system will allow the username report to appear & link it to your previous number report with it's original description.
( This is assuming you are an Android or iOS testflight user )
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If you have previously reported their number and want to report his username now & link the 2 together, then search for the username click on +REPORT and add the previously reported telephone number in the additional details field, enter in your report description, and submit.
Our system will allow the username report to appear & link it to your previous number report with it's original description.
( This is assuming you are an Android or iOS testflight user )
Amazing thank you. I tend to save them by personal and some identification so any reminders help massively even when they text and message I can cross reference. I've made the mistake of blocking someone on my phone, reported and then got messages through and inwardly groaned when I realised who it was,
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search for the username click on +REPORT and add the previously reported telephone number in the additional details field, enter in your report description, and submit.
How can you search for a username? I can only search and type in a number and I use IOS. Are there other ways of using CE from android phones or can you use it on a desk top?
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search for the username click on +REPORT and add the previously reported telephone number in the additional details field, enter in your report description, and submit.
How can you search for a username? I can only search and type in a number and I use IOS. Are there other ways of using CE from android phones or can you use it on a desk top?
CE will obviously help much better.
But are you using the TestFlight version for iOS ?
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search for the username click on +REPORT and add the previously reported telephone number in the additional details field, enter in your report description, and submit.
How can you search for a username? I can only search and type in a number and I use IOS. Are there other ways of using CE from android phones or can you use it on a desk top?
As mentioned by HT above, reporting usernames is available in the ios testflight version we have linked on our website, its not on the iOS app store version
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Hi,
I'm having an issue with the app and the website but only on my work phone
I had clienteye+ and it was working fine yesterday but today it would instantly close if I opened it and wasn't popping up when I got a call or text.
I uninstalled and tried to reinstall but when I go to the clienteye site via Google, Twitter is links here I get the following message Forbidden
You don't have permission to access this resource.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
so I can't download or report my issue there
I tried the Google play version and it just hangs on the eye logo.
I'm on tour in a new city and the app has been a lifesaver so far! I'm using android, my mobile internet rather than hotel WiFi and I'm a subscriber, if any of that helps
Xx
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Everything you have listed looks like a connection issue specifically for your device, try connecting via wifi to see if this resolves the issue, if not contact us via our email or via Twitter for a faster response
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I had no idea about the TestFlight version, this is great! Iv got that version now and I can see the extra bits
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How do you know if verification has been successful? I had a message on my AW. I downloaded the app on both my work and personal phone but did the verification through my personal phone( web based) but provided my work phone number( with AW). I’m wondering if this has caused an issue?
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How do you know if verification has been successful? I had a message on my AW. I downloaded the app on both my work and personal phone but did the verification through my personal phone( web based) but provided my work phone number( with AW). I’m wondering if this has caused an issue?
By default new installations are restricted, we ask users to verify they are a sexworker before removing the restriction. This will include asking for a link to an advertising profile and a contact telephone number, if the telephone number supplied does not match the one shown on an advertising profile then verification fails. If NO number appears on an advertising profile then we make contact via any internal messaging systems.
When a user verifies themselves we removed the restriction on the device & installation that made the request, if a user re-installs the app or uses a different phone the restriction is by default in place again.
You will know if restrictions have been removed by being able to see report descriptions, if you cannot see them then you are still restricted.
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Hi everyone,
Has anyone managed to activate the clienteye notifications on iPhone ?
When I try to activate them in the iPhone settings, it says that « the extension is not valid » or something like that. Hence I can’t see the reports directly when someone texts or calls me and have to check every single number manually in the app search section.
I know that notifications work well on Android but doesn’t seem to on iPhone :(
Could anyone help please ?
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Hi everyone,
Has anyone managed to activate the clienteye notifications on iPhone ?
When I try to activate them in the iPhone settings, it says that « the extension is not valid » or something like that. Hence I can’t see the reports directly when someone texts or calls me and have to check every single number manually in the app search section.
I know that notifications work well on Android but doesn’t seem to on iPhone :(
Could anyone help please ?
I've given up with it to be honest, I'm having to do it manually like you are
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Hi everyone,
Has anyone managed to activate the clienteye notifications on iPhone ?
When I try to activate them in the iPhone settings, it says that « the extension is not valid » or something like that. Hence I can’t see the reports directly when someone texts or calls me and have to check every single number manually in the app search section.
I know that notifications work well on Android but doesn’t seem to on iPhone :(
Could anyone help please ?
The enabling extention error is fixed in our iOS testflight version linked on our website.
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So far it has worked well on my two android phones, since yesterday afternoon it doesn't working the notifications. Others also have experienced similar problems in android phone? :'(
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I have recently had to re install CE on a new phone and am now getting the following messages on reports which is rather annoying.
⛔ Report descriptions are hidden for new installations & unverified users. Select the in app support ticket envelope icon and read the auto reply to become verified.
Does anyone have instructions please on how to do this as it isn't clear on the app?
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This may be better in the Client Eye thread, in the Spamming in the Lion's Den section.
They answer queries on that thread.
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This may be better in the Client Eye thread, in the Spamming in the Lion's Den section.
They answer queries on that thread.
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⛔ Report descriptions are hidden for new installations & unverified users. Select the in app support ticket envelope icon and read the auto reply to become verified.
Select the in app support ticket envelope icon in the top menu of the app ( start a new support ticket) and read the auto reply to become verified.
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Is anyone else having problems leaving reports? I submitted one the other day and it’s not on. They usually got up immediately ?? tried again just now and it still hasn’t appeared. I can access reports, so I haven’t been booted off
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Is anyone else having problems leaving reports? I submitted one the other day and it’s not on. They usually got up immediately ?? tried again just now and it still hasn’t appeared. I can access reports, so I haven’t been booted off
Sounds like an issue specific to yourself, please email us contact us on Twitter and we will take a look.
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Can’t open the app today, just gives me a warning notice saying “clienteye” beta has expired.. what do I do?? :/
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Can’t open the app today, just gives me a warning notice saying “clienteye” beta has expired.. what do I do?? :/
Please check out the tweet we posted earlier today @ClientEyeApp , our v1.0.7(15) expired so we released a v1.0.7(16)
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Hi Client eye,
If i change number but using same hand set does that still show up reports or would i need to verify? I know it goes on download a unique number for every download of the app but was not sure? Thanks
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Hi Client eye,
If i change number but using same hand set does that still show up reports or would i need to verify? I know it goes on download a unique number for every download of the app but was not sure? Thanks
If its the same handset and the same installation it will work without issue, we never link a users anonymous CE account to any telephone numbers only the device/installation.
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Thanks Clienteye.
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Is anyone else having problems leaving reports? I submitted one the other day and it’s not on. They usually got up immediately ?? tried again just now and it still hasn’t appeared. I can access reports, so I haven’t been booted off
I've had that recently too, definitely know I've left reports then when I've looked at them again they've disappeared. Otherwise great app, I was on AW for 10 months before I found this forum, and subsequently CE, I wish more was done to inform escorts about it. Some escorts I've met recently who have been established a long time haven't heard about it.
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Hi, is client eye down for anyone else? Seeing a host error no address associated message on it
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I have noticed a report in the past disappeared too. I also notice the warnings take a while to come up when phone rings sometimes at the end and if it's texts they don't always come up but i do a manual search on that number.
Still a great app though. I avoid so many dodgy men and fantasists from it though.
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I have noticed a report in the past disappeared too. I also notice the warnings take a while to come up when phone rings sometimes at the end and if it's texts they don't always come up but i do a manual search on that number.
Still a great app though. I avoid so many dodgy men and fantasists from it though.
I have too but I wondered if they are mistake reports? I have read somewhere a reporter got the digits mixed up.
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No my one was not a mistake report but i did once put on wrong number as got clients numbers mixed up but i corrected it and got CE to take off the wrong one.
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To clarify some of the questions that have been asked recently, we never delete or remove reports unless we have a reason too, these can include:
Address information is included ( and then we usually edit rather than delete )
A suspected duplicate report was made by the same user from different devices.
Obviously fake or false left by a client.
The report is a positive one i.e "What a nice client"
or a user requests its deletion if the feature is not available to them.
We cannot be report specific as to why something may not appear to you without knowing the full details, if you have a specific query regarding a specific number on a number you have reported best to email us. :angel:
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I have downloaded Client Eye and Registered for NUM. Even if they have fantastic feedback on AW, I’ve had a few pop up as time wasters(multiple reports) or deemed dangerous.
It isn’t fool proof, but it’s cut down on my time waster rate.
Is Client Eye an app to scan client's phone numbers? I came across another girl mention it, but when I googled it to get more info, I couldn't really find anything. Thanks
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Is Client Eye an app to scan client's phone numbers? I came across another girl mention it, but when I googled it to get more info, I couldn't really find anything. Thanks
Yes, Google ClientEye or look on the app stores and you'll find our apps.
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Yes, Google ClientEye or look on the app stores and you'll find our apps.
Thank you very much
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We have just released an Android ClientEye+ update to v3.3 and a Playstore update of ClientEye to v3.2
These versions have some bug fixes and a settings icon change, this icon now displays the user's unique ID, if the ID is clicked, users will be forwarded to a page with extra information.
One of the reasons for doing this is to deter a minority of users who continue to share report screenshots with clients, if they do this now, those same clients will be able to use the unique ID and see some reporting history i.e. Report count. We may alter and add to what can be seen in the future.
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To clarify some of the questions that have been asked recently, we never delete or remove reports unless we have a reason too, these can include:
Address information is included ( and then we usually edit rather than delete )
A suspected duplicate report was made by the same user from different devices.
Obviously fake or false left by a client.
The report is a positive one i.e "What a nice client"
or a user requests its deletion if the feature is not available to them.
We cannot be report specific as to why something may not appear to you without knowing the full details, if you have a specific query regarding a specific number on a number you have reported best to email us. :angel:
What's the email? I accidentally left a report for the wrong client, and want the report on the wrong client removed please. It was a genuine mistake x
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What's the email? I accidentally left a report for the wrong client, and want the report on the wrong client removed please. It was a genuine mistake x
If on Android use the support ticket feature if on ios email contact@clienteye.app
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Hello clienteye,
Sorry if this has been answered but I am not able to link my phone to the app currently, its says 'failed to request data for client eye' not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Thank you
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Hello clienteye,
Sorry if this has been answered but I am not able to link my phone to the app currently, its says 'failed to request data for client eye' not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Thank you
Your doing nothing wrong, our ios app has this error for recent installs and we are already looking into it
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Hi client eye,
Your app doesn't seem to be working at the moment. It went a bit odd about 20 mins ago but came back on only now there are no reports showing at all. Even when someone calls who I know has at least 5 reports it's showing they have none.
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Hi client eye,
Your app doesn't seem to be working at the moment. It went a bit odd about 20 mins ago but came back on only now there are no reports showing at all. Even when someone calls who I know has at least 5 reports it's showing they have none.
We had some down time earlier and are currently dealing with an issue. For updates see our Twitter
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Anyone else? Seems to just get stuck on homepage ...
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Anyone else? Seems to just get stuck on homepage ...
Explained in the post above yours
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Our servers are having issues and will probably be done until some time tomorrow.
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If on Android use the support ticket feature if on ios email contact@clienteye.app
Will do.
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Anyone else? Seems to just get stuck on homepage ...
Yes
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I noticed all the reports of timewaster I submitted yesterday were not there this morning
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Mine keeps saying connection issue. When I have data and WiFi that both work ??? So annoying. Fingers crossed it works soon!
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I noticed all the reports of timewaster I submitted yesterday were not there this morning
Nothing is there as the servers are still down, as previously posted about.
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Nothing is there as the servers are still down, as previously posted about.
I'm not on Twitter. Any updates? Not willing to accept any bookings without checking CE at the moment, especially as since posting on VS I just get dross contacting me.
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I'm not on Twitter. Any updates? Not willing to accept any bookings without checking CE at the moment, especially as since posting on VS I just get dross contacting me.
I think I’ll do the same.
Cos since posting an advert on VS I’ve come across some serious weirdos.
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We will have a fuller explanation later but at the moment we are waiting on our server host to change a config file which we believe (at this point) is the root of the issue
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Mines seems to be working again, a bit slow loading but I’m able to see reports and such now :)
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UPDATE:
Our android app and our iOS testflight app are back online, but on life support, so they may go down again.
We are monitoring further before attempting to enable iOS connections again.
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I think I’ll do the same.
Cos since posting an advert on VS I’ve come across some serious weirdos.
Glad it's not just me lol
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This is our long but detailed reason for the app failure over the past 16hrs.
At 7.46 pm yesterday our server went offline for 5 mins, during this downtime our iOS user's apps attempted to gain access and failed, these requests continued to repeatedly fail, when the server came back online the queue of requests had stacked up and caused a memory full issue on our server and it again crashed.
This cycle of events kept happening until we blocked all-access, to all apps, at approx 11 pm last night, we attempted to reset our servers without the traffic and it came back online but each time we allowed app access it crashed again due to the overwhelming requests (1000's of requests per second)
This morning we found that during the server reset operation a critical file that allows external connections to our server had defaulted to OFF and we could not switch it on, our server hosts did this for us and we were then able to allow Android and iOS Testflight access again, during this time we were able to see in our logs 1000's of attempted connections from our iOS users and had to wait until these calmed down a little before attempting iOS full access again, had we done it any earlier there was a chance the server would have crashed again.
At 1.05 pm today we allowed access to iOS users and were able to keep the server stable enough that it never crashed under the load. Thankfully the server is behaving and the issues have been resolved (fingers crossed)
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Thank you for the update.
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My warnings from CE don't show up until about the 8th ring, is that normal please? It's just that before I'll answer I'll wait for the CE pop up and sometimes it only comes up on the last ring and I miss the call. Thank you.
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My warnings from CE don't show up until about the 8th ring, is that normal please? It's just that before I'll answer I'll wait for the CE pop up and sometimes it only comes up on the last ring and I miss the call. Thank you.
This happens to me all the time i end up calling them back as the report shows up when the call has ended.
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This happens to me all the time i end up calling them back as the report shows up when the call has ended.
I'm glad it's not just me because I was thinking it might be my phone (being a glass half empty kind of person).
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This happens to me all the time i end up calling them back as the report shows up when the call has ended.
I'm glad it's not just me because I was thinking it might be my phone (being a glass half empty kind of person).
This is an issue that was first seen about 2-3mths ago but we've always had issues replicating it so we can find what is causing it, it would be very helpful if you could both email us with the phone make/model, any software/firmware versions & if the phones are dual sim or not.
If we can replicate the issue in a device, we cant monitor it's connections to see where the delay is or whats stopping the connection with our servers.
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Hi CE. Will do that today, thank you.
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Does this all just not work the same with I phone? The number does not come up when someone calls or texts I have to search
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Does this all just not work the same with I phone? The number does not come up when someone calls or texts I have to search
With ios our app will alert you to calls only, IF you have enabled the CE caller ID, IF the caller has been reported and IF they are not already stored by you as a contact.
iOS has a feature that enables some apps to act like a caller directory, when a call arrives the phone checks the normal stored contacts for a match or a block, if nothing is there it will then check any additional caller ID extension you have enabled, if nothing is there then no notification appears. Its a quirk of the iOS system. iOS also blocks any apps access to the SMS features so no app ( other than the ios default app) can check SMS messages.
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I find Client Eye really good.
What I do is use client eye on my personal phone (Android). I go through my txts on work phone (Android), if someone sounds genuine, like they want a booking at such and such time for 30 mins etc, I send them a txt and say I'm just out at moment and don't have my diary. Give me 5 and I'll check my availability.
I then run their number through CE to check if they have any reports. If they have reports I just send them a msg saying sorry can't do that time, fully booked etc. Then save their number in my phone as CE and location for example CE John Glasgow, so I know not to take any bookings off them in the future. And I might put a note like CE dangerous or CE no show etc whatever the report(s) said.
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With ios our app will alert you to calls only, IF you have enabled the CE caller ID, IF the caller has been reported and IF they are not already stored by you as a contact.
iOS has a feature that enables some apps to act like a caller directory, when a call arrives the phone checks the normal stored contacts for a match or a block, if nothing is there it will then check any additional caller ID extension you have enabled, if nothing is there then no notification appears. Its a quirk of the iOS system. iOS also blocks any apps access to the SMS features so no app ( other than the ios default app) can check SMS messages.
How do I enable the CE caller ID ?
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How do I enable the CE caller ID ?
on iOS, goto settings / phone / call blocking & identification
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Hi Client Eye
I just wanted to query something i saw a report come up on someone i seen before. Pretty easy client plenty of positive feedback on AW saying friendly, easy going etc which i found him to be. He was telling me very recently he paid a deposit to a woman on AW and she ignored him after that and he said he would report her for the scam. Well looks like he has a bad report for this saying he demanded money back avoid him etc! So made to look like she met him when she never but i don't think it's a genuine report because
She has other accusations of deposit theft on feedback on AW then blocks you and all her recent feedback are only guys who seen her only.
Obviously i never told him about Client Eye as i don't tell clients but he said he had another lady turn him down for something said and i just said yes ladies talk and gossip spreads to us.
Is this something you want to be made aware of so you can keep an eye out for any other reports made by the person that might not be genuine. Obviously if it was just timewaster reports or no shows i would not mention it as one guy can behave different with different women he sees and be reliable with one and not another.
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There is always 2 sides to a story
He was telling me very recently he paid a deposit to a woman on AW and she ignored him
he has a bad report for this saying he demanded money back avoid him etc!
We always prefer to believe the comments of workers over the comments of clients.
We do have measures in place to spot false reporting and have features in our Android & iOS Testflight versions where users can ask us to look at something if they believe a report is false, we always look into these and make a decision either way based upon any backend data we can see.
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There is always 2 sides to a story
We always prefer to believe the comments of workers over the comments of clients.
We do have measures in place to spot false reporting and have features in our Android & iOS Testflight versions where users can ask us to look at something if they believe a report is false, we always look into these and make a decision either way based upon any backend data we can see.
Yes i believe most reports too and avoid any bad reports but this seemed off and other men have given her feedback for running off with the deposit too so i just think he was telling the truth with his version and the other men with what they said.
Like you said before though it's up to us to make a informed decision whether we chance seeing someone or not.
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I can’t believe it. I had A massive timewaster on Tuesday and his number never showed me any report. Until I checked again today to submit a report only to find his number there
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I can’t believe it. I had A massive timewaster on Tuesday and his number never showed me any report. Until I checked again today to submit a report only to find his number there
Can you message us on Twitter or email us to discuss further and find any issues.
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I can’t believe it. I had A massive timewaster on Tuesday and his number never showed me any report. Until I checked again today to submit a report only to find his number there
Having looked into this further see can see you reported the following numbers on saafe on Wednesday 26th Jan:
074472616** (we have found the full number in CE)
074781591** (we have found the full number in CE)
The 074472616** number was first reported in November 2021 and with you using iOS the number should have appeared to you with a CE warning when they called, if it did not please let me know. It would/should have appeared to you upon any manual search being done.
The 074781591** number was first reported to CE on the 25th Jan 2022 and the reports appeared after you did your initial search, we know this as we know when numbers are searched and by which unique ID, so at the time of you searching or getting any notification there was, unfortunately, nothing to see.
These are our initial findings based on a cursory search and with the information available so far. If something appears wrong please let me know.
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I figured out what happened. As he used two different numbers. It didn’t dawn on me until later on that day or the next day .🤦🏽♀️My dumb ass didn’t realise at all. As one of his numbers has a WhatsApp and the other doesn’t.
He contacted me on the number with the WhatsApp and tht one had no CE report at tht time. When he contacted further with the other number I assumed it was the same number so didn’t check.
It was later on tht day or the next day,I realised my foolishness.
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I'm on android, how do I see reports at the time of client calling/speaking to them?
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I'm on android, how do I see reports at the time of client calling/speaking to them?
Yes I can't view it until after the call.
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Yes I can't view it until after the call.
Me also and on Android but I think CE are checking it out. Some of my numbers come up just before they're about to hang up. What I do is answer the phone and then look at my phone screen to see if any reports. They are saying hello, hello? and then I talk to them (or hang up) and say sorry got a new phone that's playing up.
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Me also and on Android but I think CE are checking it out. Some of my numbers come up just before they're about to hang up. What I do is answer the phone and then look at my phone screen to see if any reports. They are saying hello, hello? and then I talk to them (or hang up) and say sorry got a new phone that's playing up.
Glad it's not just me. I usually check after ending the call but by that time I've often agreed to a booking, although not sent postcode. Accepted a booking today, checked app, massive TW so just blocked 2 mins after accepting the booking.
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Haha good for you. You could always ask them to call back in two minutes? Say you've just got out the bath or something maybe.
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About 70% of my calls do this too there report info comes up just as they hang up but i have to call them back when i see no reports as i don't like answering and speaking to them if there fantasist timewasters with loads of reports. Hate giving them any frill of hearing my voice.
What i do occasionly if i see multiple reports for timewasting or no shows etc i answer the phone but don't say a word and they keep going hello hello then i hang up and they try again and i do the same it's quite funny then i block them.
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I have CE on my personal phone and work phone
When they ring me I check it on my personal phone first
If they aren’t in CE I will answer or tell them to call back
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I had no problems with clienteye now all of a sudden I can not get any info on the numbers that show I only see the number I put in no info , how do I get it to show if tws ect ?
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Anyone else notice CE making a noise when phone is on silent?Android.
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I had no problems with clienteye now all of a sudden I can not get any info on the numbers that show I only see the number I put in no info , how do I get it to show if tws ect ?
Message us on Twitter or send us an email and we will look into it.
Anyone else notice CE making a noise when phone is on silent?Android.
The app doesn't have any sound files so it cannot be being caused by ClientEye
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Message us on Twitter or send us an email and we will look into it.
The app doesn't have any sound files so it cannot be being caused by ClientEye
My phone makes a noise when the CE notifications come in, sort of a clunk. I can't attribute it to anything else.
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My phone makes a noise when the CE notifications come in, sort of a clunk. I can't attribute it to anything else.
Any notification noise will be set by your phone's system, there's nothing in the app that would or could bypass your settings and produce a noise.
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So if I see anyone has known no shows, boundary pushing reports etc on CE after I've agreed a booking I'll cancel them. Do you ever give them a chance? Cancel them? Give them a fake postcode? I'm always a little worried cancelling them and then leaving my light on.
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What I do is I answer a new clients phone call.. then I will speak to him on the phone for a brief 1 min. I will then tell him I need to check my dairy once I know, I will text my availability for the day ..
I then check number on client eye.. if he has got lots of reports.. I simply text him, saying( oh sorry I’m busy today only seeing my regulars).. then I will tell him, I don’t have time to fit anyone new in.. I will then save his number as (don’t see)..so if he tries to book again I just text him back saying only seeing regulars or clients with good feedback on adultwork..
They get bored and move on eventually..
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Yes if they have reports and multiple i cancel them. I don't give them any reason as i don't owe those types anything so just say need to cancel your booking then i ignore them or block them.
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If they have one timewaster or no show report I may give them a chance if they pass my screening and it’s a quieter day. If there are multiple reports of the same thing I won’t bother with them. If the report is for anything relating to boundary pushing, abusive behaviour or anything really bad it doesn’t matter if it’s just one I won’t see them
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I once agreed to see a known time-waster (15 reports on CE). As he paid a very large deposit, I wasn't really fussed when he canceled on me. Tbh, given his feedback, I would have been more surprised if he would have gone through with booking!
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I once agreed to see a known time-waster (15 reports on CE). As he paid a very large deposit, I wasn't really fussed when he canceled on me. Tbh, given his feedback, I would have been more surprised if he would have gone through with booking!
I had a guy calling and messaging for 2 days for a booking, even offered to pay full in advance but I don't do bank transfers, just asked him to confirm on the day. Come the day of the so desperately wanted booking ... silence. Does make me wonder if he was trying some kind of scam.
Some very strange men around just now.
Regarding dodging timeswasters, I speak to them, which often rules them out anyway, arrange a time of booking if they sound ok then say I'll text them the postcode but check number on CE first. If they have reports I just block them, so they never do get my post code, job done.
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I never answer random calls that haven't been arranged in advance simply because I don't feel comfortable talking to a stranger who could be potentially aggressive, serial timewaster, impolite, rude, rough or even potentially dangerous. I take bookings by text only so that I have time to check CE and think about if I want to see the person or not (it also helps to see who read the profile since I explicitly mention that I take bookings by text, WhatsApp or email only). If the person who sends a message seems ok to me, I then arrange a phone call to hear the voice and to ask a couple of questions and in some rare cases if the guy doesn't sound right to me or ask typical TW questions, after hanging up the phone, I explicitly tell them that for some reasons I don't feel comfortable seeing them.
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I've recently started checking some of my regs numbers, just out of interest, and found reports against them, mainly for flakey booking behaviour or needy texting between bookings which I've noticed with them myself but not bad enough to block them. It does alert me to keep a close eye on their behaviour though.
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I've had a few guys reported for wanting webcam (and or not following through), actually go through with it. I am sceptical my MO is don't get ready until I have the money, but more than 50 % of them do follow through.
A few have been easier than other guys, including some regulars who can't give a proper time, duration, hold back on paying until the last minute, lots of texts back and forth.
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Thanks all, think I'm going to use the 'my diary is downstairs and I'll check it in a minute' type thing. Re the boundary pushers I'm not risking it. Have a few I've blocked after reading CE reports. I will not see anyone who has been reported for asking for BB, I just see them as a walking sti.
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I'm just trying CE+ and had pings off a few calls this week already! That was quick! I misreported one by accident but as his SMS question didn't tally with my profile he's blocked anyway.
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I'm just trying CE+ and had pings off a few calls this week already! That was quick! I misreported one by accident but as his SMS question didn't tally with my profile he's blocked anyway.
CE+??
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CE+??
The Android version with extras (due to Playstore) off their website.
I finally got around to adding a real pest I threw out before payment. Wow. It turned out he had multiple appalling reports.
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The Android version with extras (due to Playstore) off their website.
I finally got around to adding a real pest I threw out before payment. Wow. It turned out he had multiple appalling reports.
I'm on android but only have CE, no plus version.
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I'm on android but only have CE, no plus version.
You have to look for it, one is in Google store the other on CE website can't remember which.
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You have to look for it, one is in Google store the other on CE website can't remember which.
Yes the Android CE version is on Playstore. The Android CE+ version is on CE website.
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Thank you both x
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I was bored and went through CE+ checking the ones I blocked. A significant percentage had reports and a few had lots of reports. I didn't check all of the blocked ones as it's too bothersome as I have so many but it was interesting and made me think I was doing okay with screening.
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If a caller flashes up with even one CE report, I cut the call and block. 99.9% don't try to call back.
They then move on to the next number on their list. Sad and pathetic individuals.
I pay a monthly fee to CE so I don't have any adverts and it's really worth it. I often wonder how I managed without it!
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I cannot see the reports on CE. Or am I too stupid and don't know how to use that?
Ex. I can see that the person has a report but I cannot read it.
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I cannot see the reports on CE. Or am I too stupid and don't know how to use that?
Ex. I can see that the person has a report but I cannot read it.
If it says "DESCRIPTION RESTRICTED" instead of the actual report description, then follow the other instructions that are displayed to have the restrictions removed.
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I cannot see the reports on CE. Or am I too stupid and don't know how to use that?
Ex. I can see that the person has a report but I cannot read it.
This happened to me at the beginning once I'd linked my AW account it was fine x
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Just to add clarity, we do not link any user's profiles to our apps, we just ensure our apps are used by workers before removing any restrictions :angel:
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I have the CE app on my android phone but I have no notifications when the phone rings .what am I missing ? What should I do to my phone to get that useful feature
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I have the CE app on my android phone but I have no notifications when the phone rings .what am I missing ? What should I do to my phone to get that useful feature
Same for me, I can only search after the call.
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Same for me, I can only search after the call.
Same here too. It would be great to have warnings flash up as they are ringing/talking. I've accepted a few bookings then had to cancel them after seeing reports.
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Same here too. It would be great to have warnings flash up as they are ringing/talking. I've accepted a few bookings then had to cancel them after seeing reports.
That's why I ask them to text first, I check their number after the text and only respond after I have checked CE.
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With android ensure you are using our ClientEye+ app from our website for the call/sms notification features, our standard ClientEye app from the playstore does not have these features. We are aware of an issue with ClientEye+ for some users where notifications do not appear and its something we have been looking at for a while.
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With android ensure you are using our ClientEye+ app from our website for the call/sms notification features, our standard ClientEye app from the playstore does not have these features. We are aware of an issue with ClientEye+ for some users where notifications do not appear and its something we have been looking at for a while.
I'm using Client Eye +
I was very excited when I changed work phone to android, meant I no longer had to input numbers into the app on my personal phone worked for a couple of calls then nothing.
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That's why I ask them to text first, I check their number after the text and only respond after I have checked CE.
I'm using the 'can you call back in 2 minutes' my phone is about to die then check them if they ring.
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ClientEye+ uses services that are now not allowed by google on the playstore (ie accessing incoming call/sms), we have been able to tweek our apps in the past to keep one step ahead of the constant android changes, but these MAY have come to an end. :FF
At the moment our options are limited or expensive and we are currently in a stalemate situation.
Keep it the way it is which costs £0 or change our apps to become the android default call/sms handler which will cost £10-12K and would take at least 6mths.
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ClientEye+ uses services that are now not allowed by google on the playstore (ie accessing incoming call/sms), we have been able to tweek our apps in the past to keep one step ahead of the constant android changes, but these MAY have come to an end. :FF
At the moment our options are limited or expensive and we are currently in a stalemate situation.
Keep it the way it is which costs £0 or change our apps to become the android default call/sms handler which will cost £10-12K and would take at least 6mths.
Oh no! idiot google! :FF :-[
The client eye was a huge help to me. This is application saved me from a lot of TWs and dangerous people ...
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If you are attacked or robbed by a man from whom the client eye could have saved or maybe somebody kill one girl the google will take responsibility?
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Thankfully our ClientEye app on the playstore fully complies with google playstore policies so that will remain, the only issue we have going forward is with our ClientEye+ app, this too will remain on our website, however, its capabilities may reduce over time.
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I'm using the 'can you call back in 2 minutes' my phone is about to die then check them if they ring.
. That's a good one I'll use that next time
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Hi guys. I've got the app from the website but I'm getting no reports showing and I can't even send a message to CE. It says I've a connection issue. Thanks.
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Hi guys. I've got the app from the website but I'm getting no reports showing and I can't even send a message to CE. It says I've a connection issue. Thanks.
Have you tried the contact system through their website or twitter, I think that's how I contacted them in the past.
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Thanks Mirror. I've managed to create a ticket in the app now. I was getting notifications on Monday when I worked but not today.
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Mines working fine again now 😀.
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I assume that clienteye isn’t always 100 percent accurate and sometimes clients are on there for no reason.
A regular of mine has a report on there that I hadn’t seen before but was just being nosey. It was for a no show. I never spoke to him about it. I do pity the escort he no showed and would hate it if it was me but I haven’t stopped seeing him cause he is a good regular and I need the money.
Anyone else had this experience. This is by no way a thread to bash clienteye or call it inaccurate it definitely is accurate like 90 percent of the time and it’s such a valuable and brilliant too for us all but can’t help but feel maybe there a exceptions.
I continue using it and do block most people who have reports unless they do sound very genuine as I do need the money and once the report they have is nothing serious or abusive.
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I have no idea because I don't use it, but this is the thread to discuss this app.
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Sophie, depends on the context but I guess one report isn't necessarily a 100% timewaster. I only discovered CE after I'd been working 10 or so months so checked all my contacts, some no shows were serial TWs and some of my regs had 1 report, but one of my regs had multiple. I carried on seeing him until he shortchanged me then no showed. I saw a guy last week who enquired via AW email, then phoned me, and I accepted the booking as we had chatted, if I'd gone by the 1 report alone I'd not have seen him but he was lovely. Booked me for 90 mins and left after an hour. I think reports are a pinch of salt tbh. Exercise your own caution. I know of escorts who have accepted bookings with 3+ TW reports and the guy has actually shown up.
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Yes of course there is going to be fake reports on there.
It’s humans using it.
But there’s also a case of a punter doesn’t act the exact same with every escort, so while they may be fab with you it’s completely different with others.
I worked before finding CE, and turned out a few clients of mine had reports. Some ended up totally right others not so much.
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I have noticed a variety of reports, my long-term and most short term regulars don't have any reports. One has a partial number match with a report on here, the OP is no longer a member so I cannot be sure it his him, the report coincides with a time when it was difficult for him and I to arrange a booking (I wasn't offering the location/incall he required) but the details do not match up however that's not to say it is not him.
I also receive a lot of cam enquiries reported for 'asking for cam', most follow through which is fine with me.
I do find CE very, very useful if only to reassure the gut feeling, especially when the guy acts as if I am being unfair - I look and lo and behold he's reported as being vile/pushy/aggressive/sending daft messages at daft times with others.
I am familiar with different behaviour, also potential 'just didn't click' reports made on forums before CE (and NUM) were initiated. Another sex worker very local once sent me a long email warning about someone who was a regular of mine then (over 12 years ago), still is without any issue. He without asking told me about the booking, putting both sides together sounded like they had gotten off on the wrong foot. She sneered at his bottle of wine (Mateus Rose) wrote in her email it was 'cheap' and she thought he intended her to drink it during the booking. I very much doubt that because of the way he was with me regards my own relationship with alcohol, he does like to bring presents without any ulterior motive.
I won't go on, but I find if a person is a tw@t it comes through in their contact with me. What I do is add to the info on CE if, when appropriate.
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@sophie your regular client having just one report for a no show is not too bad. Unless he’s a serial timewaster with numerous reports then Thts problem.
As I have a semi regular client , who has some dodgy reports of removing condoms which he has never done with me. Only shows you some clients can act differently towards different escorts. The app is supposed to be a guide— Use ur instincts.
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I think CE reports probably are mostly accurate i think it's just a very small percentage of fake reports but it's a system where you choose whether to take notice or not.
There is still women that openly admit they still take bookings for clients with reports for no show etc and some obviously no show like reported and sometimes they turn up. It's true some clients behave for some and do not for other's that is a fact.
What CE has shown me is that at least half of men that contact us are not even genuine paying clients but sad messers which i have always known but good to see the evidence in black and white.
It's a great app without a doubt.
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It's great that Clients cannot read there own reports anymore obviously does not stop the few women that still are showing clients they know the reports and breaking the rules.
I had a man the other week that contacted me and guessed why i was busy constantly he knew exactly what was wrote word for word got shown it by another sex worker, which must be true as they cannot read the reports. I told him don't know what you going on about but now as you said you got bad reputation i am not seeing you.
I am noticing a lot more men changing numbers which was bound to happen but they soon build up more bad reports as bad men do not stop being bad. Some apparantely i got told change there sims every month or so well that shows you they are a bad client that not many will see. Decent clients would never need to do that.
I gone through all the really nicer clients i seen out of curiosity and none have bad reports several weeks and months after.
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@English Green .. exactly no decent client goes about changing their numbers every month. Only lowlife dangerous clients do tht. And I’ve noticed a raise in badly behaved clients with no reports which shows they change their numbers regularly now.
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@English Green .. exactly no decent client goes about changing their numbers every month. Only lowlife dangerous clients do tht. And I’ve noticed a raise in badly behaved clients with no reports which shows they change their numbers regularly now.
I agree
I think this has happened because many girls say stuff like 'your number will be shared in escort whatsapp groups and you will be blacklisted'
sheer stupidity in my opinion
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Been looking for a thread but can't find one.
I thought warnings were active as soon as they were posted or has that changed now?
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Been looking for a thread but can't find one.
I thought warnings were active as soon as they were posted or has that changed now?
It generally is. I remember reporting someone for haggling on 1st month, when I checked again later that day he had 2 other reports all for same month (still 1st of the month). I have occasionally checked, seen no reports, then when checked weeks later noticed they had reports from months ago. That's happened twice now.
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If they are down as abusive or harassment etc I would never see them but if they were down as a timewaster then I would consider seeing them if it was quiet but save them as TW? after their name and age.
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Our statement on the future direction of ClientEye
It's with a heavy heart that we must announce that ClientEye can no longer remain in its current free format from the 17th of May 2022.
OUR JOURNEY (2018-2022)
We started our apps to increase the safety of a local group of workers we were part of, in the 4 years since then, we have grown to become the biggest reporting database of its kind in Europe with over 250,000 reports, we regularly receive 400-500 reports a day, and deliver 13,000+ reports & over 500,000 notifications every month.
We have personally taken on 2nd jobs in order to fund ClientEye and have worked 12+ hours a day, 365 days a year for almost 4 years to keep our apps operating, unfortunately, month after month our costs have exceeded the revenue or donations we have received.
In '20-'21 our losses totaled £5800, in '21-'22 our losses totaled £3800, and we can unfortunately no longer fund ClientEye in its current format.
We have come to the realization that funding a free app, via supporters & donations alone, whilst costing us £1000's per year is not viable in the long term, and if our apps are to continue, we have to find a new funding direction to sustain our continued growth and further app updates.
VARIOUS OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT
We conducted a 12mth trial of an ad-based system for android users, unfortunately, the revenues from these changes have been minimal at best, and very much annoying to the user experience.
We looked into the pros and cons of obtaining charitable status and funding solely via fundraising/applying for grants, but we felt this would be a greater burden on us having to administer a charity as well as all the tasks currently involved in operating our apps.
Close down ClientEye, we simply cannot allow this to happen, ClientEye has proven itself to be the premier safety app within the UK for 1000’s of daily users who rely on the safety our apps bring them.
Pass our databases and apps onto another group who could maybe continue our work. Although we could pass on the apps we could not pass on the databases (for legal reasons) and without the databases, our apps would not work.
A subscription model. This is an option we have been trying to avoid for over 18mths as we understood this would be a shock to all users. Unfortunately, a transition to a subscription model is our only viable option.
OUR CHANGES - from 17th May 2022
Today 17th April 2022, we have recorded the current "report count" of each user and stored the results in a separate field in our databases, we have also reset all users' "search counts” to 0.
(Users who wish to check their current report & search counts, can select the shield icon that appears in the top menu of our apps when viewing our report results pages.)
Users who have already made 100+ reports, will not see any changes until March 2023.
Users who have already made 31-99 reports, will not see any changes until September 2022.
New & existing users with a report count <30, will start to see changes from the 17th May 2022.
Users will be able to complete 100 unique searches before being limited in the report description details they can see, at that time or after any time extension, users will be given information on how to remove the additional restrictions.
All users, regardless of their restriction status, will continue to see if any, number/username/e-mail has been reported and the report type, users will also continue to receive all auto-notifications and see any linked details, if their app version supports these features and users will continue to see their own reports regardless of any restriction status.
Working closely with our key partner Vivastreet, we've developed a web-based version of our app exclusively available to active Vivastreet Escort & Massage advertisers, free of charge. This will launch on Vivastreet from 17th May 2022.
Our current ad-free supporters will automatically be transferred to our new system and will not see any changes for as long as their supporter status remains unchanged.
OUR APOLOGIES
We understand that no one will be happy with the changes we are having to make and apologize for them, we also understand some users may miss out on any time extension due to reinstalling, however, we have to set the changes at some level & we hope our users will understand, that if ClientEye is to continue, with a much bigger platform than we could ever have imagined, financial changes have to be made.
We have tried to find a balance that ensures we lessen the impact of our changes on our low volume/occasional users as they will still be able to perform searches without a subscription for as long as possible, and thank our higher volume users, who have contributed the most reports, as they will be able to use our apps without a subscription for an extended length of time.
Our hope is that any much-needed revenue generated from subscriptions will start to cover our ever-increasing monthly & yearly costs and that this will allow us to better plan, fund, and develop future app updates. Thank You …… Emma & Richard ( ClientEye )
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What will happen if you have more than one work phone? I use the app on two thanks
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It's not a big deal everyone paying a yearly subscription or 3 months or however you do it to keep the app going it is the best invention in our line of work for safety.
How does it work with clients still not seeing there info? Will every paid person need to prove if they are a sex worker or will some of the proof be there reporting status?
What happens if you change phones and paid will you need to give info to get it changed over? If everyone has a unique number on CE with the handset can that not be recorded and
Changed over to the new phone?
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@English Green those are good questions, I’m sure they will be make the necessary adjustments especially kicking out punters who use the app.
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Lucky to have it free for all this time.
I currently pay for ad free version and while the changes won’t affect me until 2023 I’ll have no problems paying a subscription. CE is so valuable to me and saved me so much wasted money anyway!
I really love that you’ve thought of low volume workers too.
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Happy to pay. It's saved me from stealthers and abusers.
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What will happen if you have more than one work phone? I use the app on two thanks
Subscriptions are per device, however, in your case with 2 devices for any none subscribed device you will still receive warnings if a number is reported, and still received auto-notifications.
How does it work with clients still not seeing there info? Will every paid person need to prove if they are a sex worker or will some of the proof be there reporting status?
What happens if you change phones and paid will you need to give info to get it changed over? If everyone has a unique number on CE with the handset can that not be recorded and
Changed over to the new phone?
All users need to have default restrictions removed in every case, i.e. show proof they are a worker and not a client. Taking a subscription will not remove this initial requirement so even if a client takes a subscription they will still not see any report details.
If you re-install or change devices and have a subscription we can transfer the subscription to the new installation or device, users only need to let us know the subscription details i.e. email address
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I pay now for the ad free version as ads drive me nuts ;D
I'm more than happy for it to be a subscription service so no issues at all
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I have downloaded the app and I think it's fab, but I am a little conerned about privacy.
Why does the app require your IMEI number? For those of us whose work phones are on contract this is a little alarming; if the app was compromised it means that identifying information could fall into the wrong hands.
I'm super keen on the app and I've told a lot of working friends about it, we all think its fab but many of us are concerned about this privacy issue and the risk of a breach.
Think out privacy already breached on AW lol.
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I’ve seen on social media today that client eye are saying the app is in trouble and they cannot find it anymore. Something about it going to an online service via viva street.
This is extremely worrying. You won’t be able to see if someone has repeat reports. I think going forwards I’m going to implement a deposit on screening again as the app was a lifeline for me.
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Are we meant to start paying for the use of client eye .I read I think they can't afford to keep it running on a voluntary basis .correct me if I'm wrong please.
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I’ve seen on social media today that client eye are saying the app is in trouble and they cannot find it anymore. Something about it going to an online service via viva street.
This is extremely worrying. You won’t be able to see if someone has repeat reports. I think going forwards I’m going to implement a deposit on screening again as the app was a lifeline for me.
Read the Client eye thread Gucci there is more details. It will still be available for everyone but a subscription at some point to pay. The Vivastreet thing is just a extra for them should not affect people who do not user Viva.
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Client eye where is the sheild icon to see my report history i cannot see it on my Client Eye i only see above, the envelope to message you, the privacy and the search button does not seem to be any other menus?
It's ok i found it after clicking on the i.d number after clicking menu button.
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I'm low volume but I receive many enquiries most of which I check, for every booking I turn away at least 3 if not more and I check CE for future info so I know immediately from the number. Also I take enquiries for online services.
Since the reset yesterday my search count is 11.
I've only made 21 reports, someone has to be really bad and I tend to screen fairly well.
My free period will likely last 7 days from the May start date ;D no a complaint, I have been paying for ad removal since that was introduced. I don't mind paying going forward but low volume may not mean fewer searches.
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Client Eye, so sorry to hear you are going through these changes.
I have never used you. But I imagine you've dedicated everlasting work, sweat and tears to this baby!
I will never use Vivastreet again on principle as I think they are a vile, pimp-friendly website.
But I wish you all the best with your fabulous app. Well done and onward! :D
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My count is 933 didn’t realise it was so high
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So concretely if we pay the subscription after the extending date (depending how many reports we wrote), everything will remain the same right ?
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My count is 933 didn’t realise it was so high
Damn!!!
;D Lol I thought mine with 500 reports was High
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I seem to get a lot of time wasters. Had to report two today
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So concretely if we pay the subscription after the extending date (depending how many reports we wrote), everything will remain the same right ?
Everything within the app will remain the same, same options. same features but the extra funding will allow us to better fund and plan app updates and keep the apps online.
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Everything within the app will remain the same, same options. same features but the extra funding will allow us to better fund and plan app updates and keep the apps online.
How much will the new subscription be and how often would it be payable? Thanks
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How much will the new subscription be and how often would it be payable? Thanks
£3.99 per mth (Auto Renew) or £34.99 per year (Auto Renew) , we are also currently developing a system where subscribers can Gift a subscription to a vulnerable user who may not have a bank account due to financial discrimination, domestic abuse or migrant status.
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£3.99 per mth (Auto Renew) or £34.99 per year (Auto Renew) , we are also currently developing a system where subscribers can Gift a subscription to a vulnerable user who may not have a bank account due to financial discrimination, domestic abuse or migrant status.
Absolute bargain is this in addition to paying for ad free, or will the £34.99 include add free and subscription?
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£3.99 per mth (Auto Renew) or £34.99 per year (Auto Renew) , we are also currently developing a system where subscribers can Gift a subscription to a vulnerable user who may not have a bank account due to financial discrimination, domestic abuse or migrant status.
That is great. What are all the options for payment? Does this mean you need everyone's full real name to make payment?
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Absolute bargain is this in addition to paying for ad free, or will the £34.99 include add free and subscription?
Current ad free subscribers will be transferred to supporter subscriptions without seeing any changes, any new subscribers will also receive ad free access ( if their app has ads )
That is great. What are all the options for payment?
All payments are via debit/credit card, we do not collect anything other than an email address and payments will appear on statements as Airwave Apps Ltd
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Current ad free subscribers will be transferred to supporter subscriptions without seeing any changes, any new subscribers will also receive ad free access ( if their app has ads )
All payments are via debit/credit card, we do not collect anything other than an email address and payments will appear on statements as Airwave Apps Ltd
Brilliant Emma thanks for that.
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I'm sure there is a grant you can apply for, or raise money/funding. There are plenty of ways around this instead of filling your greedy pockets for an app which should be free for the most vulnerable members of society.
If I have 2 or more phones will I need to buy the app on both of my phones?
If there is a data breach everyone will be fked especially with the new digital bill coming in. Did you not try and apply for funding?
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I'm sure there is a grant you can apply for, or raise money/funding. There are plenty of ways around this instead of filling your greedy pockets for an app which should be free for the most vulnerable members of society.
If I have 2 or more phones will I need to buy the app on both of my phones?
If there is a data breach everyone will be fked especially with the new digital bill coming in. Did you not try and apply for funding?
I’m sure she must have gone through and search reasonable alternatives before she reached this conclusion. Calling her greedy is unnecessary plus she’s very aware and clued up on the laws surrounding data protection and so on.
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Also the monthly subscription is more expensive than the annual subscription penalising more vulnerable memebers so so at least make it the same price?????
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I'm sure there is a grant you can apply for, or raise money/funding. There are plenty of ways around this instead of filling your greedy pockets for an app which should be free for the most vulnerable members of society.
If I have 2 or more phones will I need to buy the app on both of my phones?
If there is a data breach everyone will be fked especially with the new digital bill coming in. Did you not try and apply for funding?
We’ll await your app then.
Very disgusting calling them greedy after everything they’ve done. They explained things very clearly and why funding is a no go. You go do it for free then, we’ll wait.
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Posters are entitled to their views. Stay on topic or the thread will be locked for the rest of the day.
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Also the monthly subscription is more expensive than the annual subscription penalising more vulnerable memebers so so at least make it the same price?????
This is standard practise across all subscription-based services and not just limited to Client Eye, so while your point is valid, I do not think it was pre-meditated on CE’s part to penalise their more vulnerable members. And besides, you can gift memberships to those who cannot afford them. On my part, I only escort part-time, and usually take months off at a time, so even though the annual subscription is better value for money, I would rather pay only for the months I am working (if indeed I even need to use CE at all).
To CE - will there also be an option to donate monies to be used towards paying for others’ memberships for those unable to gift the full amount?
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That’s cheap I pay that for tinder 😂
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To CE - will there also be an option to donate monies to be used towards paying for others’ memberships for those unable to gift the full amount?
Initially, we will be showing all subscribers information on how they can support a more vulnerable user by subscribing for them, either monthly or yearly, we hope in the future, to also include an option for one-time donations to be made.
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We’ll await your app then.
Very disgusting calling them greedy after everything they’ve done. They explained things very clearly and why funding is a no go. You go do it for free then, we’ll wait.
funding isn't a no go though.
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For 2022-2023 our projected costs will be £45,000-£50,000 to keep the apps online, updated, and administered!
If anyone wants to fund that amount we will more than welcome your £50,000 donation.
Each month we have on average 5500 users of our apps, (10,000+ in 2022 up to now) and we expect 20% of those will subscribe, so that's 1100 users.
Those that do not subscribe will still see if a number is reported, and will still see how many times, the report type, and the report date.
We know 37% of subscribers will likely take a 12mth package and 63% a monthly package, and this will raise about £45,000 over the year
We have done 8100+ MANUAL restriction removal requests to date and blocked over 1000 clients attempting to do so, so we know the demographics of our users as we have all the data, we know the unique id's of occasional users and the unique id's of the more active ones, this is based on search history not reporting history.
We know 95% of our uses will NOT be adversely affected by the changes we are making, and the other 5% will be subsidized by either anonymously gifting a subscription or by donations. These options will be available to ALL USERS & SW SUPPORTERS before the 17th May 2022
We do restrictions removal and administration of the reports 12hrs a day, every day of the year, this includes Christmas day, birthdays, and even on the day of my dad's funeral 2 years ago. We never stop other than to sleep! so those that believe we are doing a "cash grab" or that we are "tech startup looking to cash out" are quite welcome to stop using our apps anytime they want, we can even facilitate their exit if they wish, quite simply we can do without their negativity/
We have been in communication with SWARM & NUM since our announcement and will continue to do so as these are the people who are BEST PLACED to have communication with ....... (we will NOT engage with shouty people) .... Emma
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Initially, we will be showing all subscribers information on how they can support a more vulnerable user by subscribing for them, either monthly or yearly, we hope in the future, to also include an option for one-time donations to be made.
I’d be happy to pay monthly or yearly subscription and support those who are struggling financially.
Just curious why Vivastreet can’t help too?
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Client eye keep up the good work which you are helping so many of us and keeping us safe. There is many of us that are very grateful for your invention and happy to pay the fee to keep the app going.
Bloodyhell 1000 clients signing up to get access and spy on there own reported bad behaviour. Shows you how many bad men there are out there. They know the app is not for them, the decent clients will be pleased there is a app like this to protect women and would never worry about it.
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Those that do not subscribe will still see if a number is reported, and will still see how many times, the report type, and the report date.
That's good, so technically I don't have to subscribe to still see a flagged number...as I don't usually click on them to read if I see a number flagged.
Do I need to subscribe to make a report?
But well done CE for keeping the business running for free all this time x
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That's good, so technically I don't have to subscribe to still see a flagged number...as I don't usually click on them to read if I see a number flagged.
Do I need to subscribe to make a report?
Technically you'll not need to subscribe to use the app the way you do, and no subscription is needed to make a report, additionally, you will always be able to see your own reports regardless of any subscription status.
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I am having trouble with this site trying to get the shield taken off but the phone on my website is an old Nokia so when the txt comes in with the link I cannot tap on it as the phone is like a 1998 Nokia lol without internet etc
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I am having trouble with this site trying to get the shield taken off but the phone on my website is an old Nokia so when the txt comes in with the link I cannot tap on it as the phone is like a 1998 Nokia lol without internet etc
Reply back to the SMS with this explanation and an alternative number :angel:
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Just curious why Vivastreet can’t help too?
Vivastreet is supporting us through to 2024
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I don't understand? Is this change going to be implemented so you can not show ads on app (what we have now)?
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I don't know how I managed before Client Eye. (Oh yes, I had a shit tonne of timewasters!)
I love the app, Emma. It has saved me time and money and I will always happily invest.
Personally, I think current subscription rates are a bargain. I understand it's all individual choice, but as a full time touring escort I'd be lost without you.
Thank you for your continued hard work.
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Yesterday, (on Saturday) I was a super busy. Among the many guests, unfortunately, there were 2 look & go and an idiot who offered photography/ video for free sex. Luckily, it saved me , the client eye app.. lol
So I wouldn't waste my time on it. I immediately banned it. hahaha
The CE app helps me a lot.
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Reply back to the SMS with this explanation and an alternative number :angel:
Thank u xx
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Does Client Eye work with WhatsApp?
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Does Client Eye work with WhatsApp?
No it does not but obviously can always check after on the app.
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How do we check our reports? I can’t see a sheild on my app.
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How do we check our reports? I can’t see a sheild on my app.
On my phone its in the top right corner next to the word privacy
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How do we check our reports? I can’t see a sheild on my app.
All our apps now have the shield icon on all report results pages, if yours does not then please update your installed app to our latest versions
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Every time I tour a new area I'm grateful to CE all over again. I remember all too well the frustration of booking in TW after TW before this app existed.
I'm already paying for ad-free access and will be happy to continue paying a subscription.
For those who want to pay it forward for anyone who may not be able to afford - if you click on the Shield icon to see your report stats, there is now a link to the GoFundMe page where you can donate any amount to buy subscriptions for those struggling.
Well done Emma and keep up the good work.
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Every time I tour a new area I'm grateful to CE all over again. I remember all too well the frustration of booking in TW after TW before this app existed.
I'm already paying for ad-free access and will be happy to continue paying a subscription.
For those who want to pay it forward for anyone who may not be able to afford - if you click on the Shield icon to see your report stats, there is now a link to the GoFundMe page where you can donate any amount to buy subscriptions for those struggling.
Well done Emma and keep up the good work.
Same, same. CE is invaluable to me when on tour and I'm super grateful to them for the system and will happily pay a sub to help with my safety, that is cheaper than my streaming service subscriptions. I will also pay subs for a less privileged sex worker.
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All our apps now have the shield icon on all report results pages, if yours does not then please update your installed app to our latest versions
Please answer our questions - when you start taking application fees, will this means app will stop having advertisements?
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Please answer our questions - when you start taking application fees, will this means app will stop having advertisements?
Did I miss a question? Anyone who takes a subscription will also not see ads (if their app has ads), anyone who does not take a subscription will still see ads (if their app has ads)
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Happy to see the consensus is we are happy (except one!) to pay for your amazing service. The sub amount really is small price to pay for our safety and time.
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whats going to happen after 2024 please? x
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whats going to happen after 2024 please? x
Not sure I understand the reference to 2024 but we are planning on still being here
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We have made some changes to the information that is shown to users when they click the shield icon within our apps.
If your installation has default restrictions in place, you will be asked to complete a form to have restrictions removed.
If you have already had default restrictions removed, you will be shown if any time extension has been applied before a subscription will be needed and shown how to subscribe, (users can choose to subscribe at any time), users will also be shown how they can support a vulnerable user via GoFundMe.
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Did I miss a question? Anyone who takes a subscription will also not see ads (if their app has ads), anyone who does not take a subscription will still see ads (if their app has ads)
So you get money from vivastreet, from ads, &
you still say you needd to cover 100% expenses by subscriptions?
Maths ain't mathing.
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So you get money from vivastreet, from ads, &
you still say you needd to cover 100% expenses by subscriptions?
Maths ain't mathing.
Obviously the ads are not covering everything she already said that in her previous post. Even if they did want to make a bit of money down the line for spending hours a day on a app that has grown very big is that such a terrible thing? Should we really expect her to do it for nothing especially if this app will be around a long time?
She is not a charity she herself is a sex worker just like us.
The amount she is asking is reasonable and the app is a much needed safety tool.
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Is the app down Emma? Can't get it to load x
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So you get money from vivastreet, from ads, &
you still say you needd to cover 100% expenses by subscriptions?
Maths ain't mathing.
It is a mixture of all revenue that will keep the app alive, operating, and administered ..... Please don't use hobbyist maths to do your "mathing"
Is the app down Emma? Can't get it to load x
Was working on it earlier for 10 mins which caused some (iOS) downtime.
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Am disgusted by those who are questioning Emma’s motives for having to start charging for Client Eye and claiming the numbers don’t stack up. Given the time, effort and money Emma (and whomever it is she works with) have put into CE to date, it is nothing short of miraculous that she has managed to operate CE on such a shoestring budget and at a cost to her own day-to-day life, and not started implementing a subscription method sooner.
Emma, you are providing an incredibly valuable service - thank you, don’t let the naysayers get you down!
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As the rules thread at the top of the section states members can critique the posts in this section as they see fit. The OP is not above these rules and neither is anybody else.
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It is a mixture of all revenue that will keep the app alive, operating, and administered ..... Please don't use hobbyist maths to do your "mathing"
I have a quick question or possibly a suggestion depending how you want to look at it.
You have a feature under the shield icon once expanded to enable someone to donate a sum via gofundme to help those unable to pay the subscription
Would it be possible to offer two levels of subscription for those that want to be able to help, a basic level as now and a second level where the subscribers pay a minimal extra for example an extra £2 on top of the basic subscription fee, the extra £2 could then be held in a separate account and used to help the girls who can't pay for a subscription.
It would have the advantage of you knowing what is coming in each month as you would have a count of all those on the slightly higher rate, I know it would be a more favorable way for me to help rather than remembering to donate via lump sum :)
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That’s a really good idea. I wouldn’t mind paying a little extra
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That’s a really good idea. I wouldn’t mind paying a little extra
I think a lot of us would be the same as we could budget for that extra £2 or Whatever a month.
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That’s a really good idea. I wouldn’t mind paying a little extra
Absolutely
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I have a quick question or possibly a suggestion depending how you want to look at it.
You have a feature under the shield icon once expanded to enable someone to donate a sum via gofundme to help those unable to pay the subscription
Would it be possible to offer two levels of subscription for those that want to be able to help, a basic level as now and a second level where the subscribers pay a minimal extra for example an extra £2 on top of the basic subscription fee, the extra £2 could then be held in a separate account and used to help the girls who can't pay for a subscription.
It would have the advantage of you knowing what is coming in each month as you would have a count of all those on the slightly higher rate, I know it would be a more favorable way for me to help rather than remembering to donate via lump sum :)
Ok, we will look into it, it may not be possible with Gofundme but should be possible with Donorbox as they have options including One time. Monthly and Yearly donations.
We know that vulnerable users will have different needs so can split all donations into monthly segments, this way we can offer vulnerable users different things, some may need 1 or 3 months access due to UC santions or may need 12 month access due to immigration status.
We are currently looking into options to best deliver to this to vulnerable users
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Ok, we have made some changes based on the suggestions here.
When clicking the shield icon or taking out a subscription, all users will now see a "DonorBox" link.
Users can donate suggested amounts or set their own amount, either as a one-time donation or as a Monthly / Yearly donation.
We have raised £135 via GoFundMe and these funds will be used to supply 46 vulnerable users with 1 mths of access to ClientEye after 17th May 2022.
For those that may question our "Mathing" we have divided £34.99/12 which is £2.91 x 46 = £133.86
We have meetings arranged to best distribute and allocate these to vulnerable users.
Other changes we have made this weekend
Previous to yesterday we would display restriction removal information if/when a user needed to see them (i.e. if reports existed), we have changed this so ALL users of our apps will now be prompted to have restrictions removed (if they have not already had them removed) from their next search. We know this WILL increase our workload over the coming few weeks but it's something that needs to be done to STOP clients trying to gain ANY information from our apps.
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Ok, we have made some changes based on the suggestions here.
When clicking the shield icon or taking out a subscription, all users will now see a "DonorBox" link.
Users can donate suggested amounts or set their own amount, either as a one-time donation or as a Monthly / Yearly donation.
We have raised £135 via GoFundMe and these funds will be used to supply 46 vulnerable users with 1 mths of access to ClientEye after 17th May 2022.
For those that may question our "Mathing" we have divided £34.99/12 which is £2.91 x 46 = £133.86
We have meetings arranged to best distribute and allocate these to vulnerable users.
Other changes we have made this weekend
Previous to yesterday we would display restriction removal information if/when a user needed to see them (i.e. if reports existed), we have changed this so ALL users of our apps will now be prompted to have restrictions removed (if they have not already had them removed) from their next search. We know this WILL increase our workload over the coming few weeks but it's something that needs to be done to STOP clients trying to gain ANY information from our apps.
Well done Emma and Co I applaud what you have achieved and what you are doing 👏
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Just wondering how you ladies (or gents) are going to declare the 'expense' for this on your taxes. My accountant is a ex client but I rarely see him, but I'm registered as 'virtual PA and healthcare services' with HMRC rather than a sex worker so not sure how I can justify this, although at £34.99 I'm not massively bothered. Just wondering. Please don't shoot me I'm low level and part time so every penny counts.
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Just wondering how you ladies (or gents) are going to declare the 'expense' for this on your taxes. My accountant is a ex client but I rarely see him, but I'm registered as 'virtual PA and healthcare services' with HMRC rather than a sex worker so not sure how I can justify this, although at £34.99 I'm not massively bothered. Just wondering. Please don't shoot me I'm low level and part time so every penny counts.
You could call it a subscription to XXX service?
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Just wondering how you ladies (or gents) are going to declare the 'expense' for this on your taxes. My accountant is a ex client but I rarely see him, but I'm registered as 'virtual PA and healthcare services' with HMRC rather than a sex worker so not sure how I can justify this, although at £34.99 I'm not massively bothered. Just wondering. Please don't shoot me I'm low level and part time so every penny counts.
Even as a virtual PA and healthcare service you would be allowed to claim expenses for apps or publications that are related to your work, in its simplest form we are a call monitoring/reporting application. All receipts that are sent include our company name.
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Even as a virtual PA and healthcare service you would be allowed to claim expenses for apps or publications that are related to your work, in its simplest form we are a call monitoring/reporting application. All receipts that are sent include our company name.
Thanks hun xx
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Hi how much do you rely or trust client eye ? I’ve always thought it was the best but I’ve recently had a very good paying and nice client. He told me he couldn’t never get through to me so I checked and I had him saved as ignore because he has 10 bad reports on this number on there. He called me and booked off a new sim. It’s really made me think about all the potential clients I ignore when they could be good. I’m not sure what to think now when I see reports
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Occasionly i have seen clients that i believe have been given a fake report but it's to be expected if thousands of reports go on especially when 1 woman was conning guys over deposits and not seeing them but because 1 guy demanded his money back she said he made threats for money back she never mentioned she was a con artist or that she never met him so she lied made it look like there was a booking and he got nasty. I saw the evidence that he was telling the truth as he told me what happened to him of her scam always will be some not genuine reports but i think most are genuine.
I have seen guys that were reliable with me and turned up and i seen a few times but no showed on a few other women
I think there real reports but have been unreliable with others or booking one that there fave woman come free and they do not cancel the other booking.
Use your gut and decide for yourself.
Going by reports there is many women that see bad reports for timewasting and no showing but still take there booking as i seen reports done afterwards saying i should have listened to other reports as he did same but i gave him a chance as he said will def be there.
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I weigh things up, any reports for abusive behaviour, even if only one, I'm not going to risk at all because the risk of getting hurt (if the report is honest) outweighs in importance the risk of simply losing a booking (if the report is dishonest). If there is one report for time wasting I may take a booking anyway if I am at my incall place and it would be easy to get ready, but I wouldn't go out of my way for him. Like, if I was out to lunch, I wouldn't rush back.
In the main I find I've already screened out guys before I even input the number to see if they have any reports; as in, I've already thought to myself "He sounds like an arse - oh look, he has 4 reports!" and my instinct to not see him is confirmed. Which I probably would have gone with anyway. Its only meant to be used as a guide - information is power and all that.
If they have managed to get 10 reports though, even if they show up and act reasonably sometimes, they haven't on other times and are thus still risky. Its highly unlikely that 10 users are all liars.
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I have seen guys that were reliable with me and turned up and i seen a few times but no showed on a few other women
I think there real reports but have been unreliable with others or booking one that there fave woman come free and they do not cancel the other booking.
Yea this; I have very very low tolerance for being messed about and would prefer to go without the money than risk a no show or a general fuckwit even if they are ok now and then. So to me, CE is invaluable.
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Hi how much do you rely or trust client eye ? I’ve always thought it was the best but I’ve recently had a very good paying and nice client. He told me he couldn’t never get through to me so I checked and I had him saved as ignore because he has 10 bad reports on this number on there. He called me and booked off a new sim. It’s really made me think about all the potential clients I ignore when they could be good. I’m not sure what to think now when I see reports
Please bear in mind some clients have gotten wind of clienteye app and have checked their numbers on the app and changed their numbers if they have several bad reports against their numbers.
So how did you know it was the same guy
Did you tell him about the reports? Why did he change his sim?
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I only block if the person is out of order with me and or it's obvious there is unrefuted evidence. There are entries in CE which read along the lines of 'didn't think he was shifty until I saw the other reports', 'twat', 'thank goodness I read this' - was he shifty with them or not? I mostly find the behaviour will come out in the contact/during screening process.
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At least one woman on here has said she told her potential client that she wouldn't see him because he had been reported, it is clear that women are telling these clients about it even though it says do not tell them!!!! This is why we can't have good things.
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At least one woman on here has said she told her potential client that she wouldn't see him because he had been reported, it is clear that women are telling these clients about it even though it says do not tell them!!!! This is why we can't have good things.
Some are telling there clients as i had a couple that knew why i was never available for him and read out the exact report what his regular girl screen shot him. I denied knowing about that.
There is nothing we or Client eye can do about a small percentage of women breaking the rules Unfortnately.
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Yea this; I have very very low tolerance for being messed about and would prefer to go without the money than risk a no show or a general fuckwit even if they are ok now and then. So to me, CE is invaluable.
I gave someone a chance the other day with 2 2021 no show reports and he no showed me as well. More fool me for giving him a chance. I have a very low tolerance too and would rather have o bookings than a no show. They make me very mad.
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If someone had 1 - 2 report say 6 months - 1 -2 years ago for no show then if I’m not busy I will see them but I fit them on my terms - so no loss of business if they don’t turn up
But anything abusive i won’t see them
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I gave someone a chance the other day with 2 2021 no show reports and he no showed me as well. More fool me for giving him a chance. I have a very low tolerance too and would rather have o bookings than a no show. They make me very mad.
Exactly, best to cut losses and do something else nice or productive with the time. More reliable clients are around the corner...
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We have always known one user's experience with a client will or may differ from another user's experience, and we have always advised using the information in reports to make a better judgment on whether to see a client or not.
I myself will not see a client if they have any abusive reports but may see a client if they have a couple of no-shows or time-wasting reports, but only if I am not busy or don't have a better alternative. The more reports, the more chance I will say no or make my excuses, ( I have a list of them ready ), I never let a client know if they have been reported, but we know so users do, either because they are caught on the spot having been asked for a booking, or to get the upper hand with the reported client.
Every user is shown their unique ID at the end of every report they view, and if they take a screenshot and send it to a client, that client always uses it as evidence of being reported when they contact us, we, of course, see the ID and block or warn any ID's that are shown to us.
ClientEye is just a tool, best to use it in any way you seam fit and in whatever works best for you. :angel:
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Help! I uninstalled the App this morning so that I could hopefully get the call notifications. Never been able to use that function, always had to take the call then search afterwards.
I freed up some space and reinstalled. But the App is 'stuck' on the first page of 'select a language'
Won't allow me to select any language and is basically frozen.
Tried on 2 android devices, one running Android 9 and the other 11.
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Hi how much do you rely or trust client eye ? I’ve always thought it was the best but I’ve recently had a very good paying and nice client. He told me he couldn’t never get through to me so I checked and I had him saved as ignore because he has 10 bad reports on this number on there. He called me and booked off a new sim. It’s really made me think about all the potential clients I ignore when they could be good. I’m not sure what to think now when I see reports
When a CE report comes up, I cut the call then check the report. If it's something like 'robber' or 'look and go' I immediately block.
The genuine ones will call back but I find they rarely do. I find most CE reports are genuine. I might give the odd 'no show' a chance but with plenty of genuine clients who pass my screening I don't feel inclined to take the chance.
If I do speak to clients with reports, they rarely pass my screening and certainly more than one report is a 'no go' for me.
I had a strange incident last week where an AW member with lots of recent positive escort feedback contacted me for a booking but he had 9 CE reports.
I have no idea what was going on there but there's not a hope in hell I would even entertain someone with 2 reports (like I said) never mind 9!
I blocked him on AW and phone.
I feel safer all round with CE already screening out the most problematic of clients. So what if I miss out on the one or two that 'might' have been okay due to false reporting or perhaps the client has experienced a bait and switch or whatever leading to a negative report.
I'm still busy and my touring life is so much easier now. If a guy has 2 or more reports then all the wg's can't be wrong. He's a bad egg in some shape or form.
On a more serious note, the number of guys who come us abusive, dangerous, robbers, thief gangs etc is invaluable and that only takes 1 report.
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Help! I uninstalled the App this morning so that I could hopefully get the call notifications. Never been able to use that function, always had to take the call then search afterwards.
I freed up some space and reinstalled. But the App is 'stuck' on the first page of 'select a language'
Won't allow me to select any language and is basically frozen.
Tried on 2 android devices, one running Android 9 and the other 11.
Ok you are on Android ( by the features you have mentioned ), let it load and then scroll through the languages, select your preferred choice, and continue. If this doesn't help email me or DM on Twitter
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When a CE report comes up, I cut the call then check the report. If it's something like 'robber' or 'look and go' I immediately block.
The genuine ones will call back but I find they rarely do. I find most CE reports are genuine. I might give the odd 'no show' a chance but with plenty of genuine clients who pass my screening I don't feel inclined to take the chance.
If I do speak to clients with reports, they rarely pass my screening and certainly more than one report is a 'no go' for me.
I had a strange incident last week where an AW member with lots of recent positive escort feedback contacted me for a booking but he had 9 CE reports.
I have no idea what was going on there but there's not a hope in hell I would even entertain someone with 2 reports (like I said) never mind 9!
I blocked him on AW and phone.
I feel safer all round with CE already screening out the most problematic of clients. So what if I miss out on the one or two that 'might' have been okay due to false reporting or perhaps the client has experienced a bait and switch or whatever leading to a negative report.
I'm still busy and my touring life is so much easier now. If a guy has 2 or more reports then all the wg's can't be wrong. He's a bad egg in some shape or form.
On a more serious note, the number of guys who come us abusive, dangerous, robbers, thief gangs etc is invaluable and that only takes 1 report.
Client eye really is a godsend isn't it. I've saved myself alot of uneccesary waiting around by not going ahead with so many unsuitables.
Block list getting longer though
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Just wondering how you ladies (or gents) are going to declare the 'expense' for this on your taxes. My accountant is a ex client but I rarely see him, but I'm registered as 'virtual PA and healthcare services' with HMRC rather than a sex worker so not sure how I can justify this, although at £34.99 I'm not massively bothered. Just wondering. Please don't shoot me I'm low level and part time so every penny counts.
you don't break down your expenses to such detail in your tax return and if you ever get audited you just tell HMRC the truth
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I saw one woman on her profile write i use client eye and num to report and check tws and messers is this not a bad idea to put on adult work?
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I saw one woman on her profile write i use client eye and num to report and check tws and messers is this not a bad idea to put on adult work?
Yea its a bad idea I would say, because its alerting more dodgy gits to its existence (yes they could read about it here or on other forums but not all know about these forums) for a start. I wouldn't personally want any of them to know I use it because they'll know I report them if they no show etc and may be vengeful/bitter. I think whoever is doing that maybe you could send that info privately to CE? ??? as I think that may be against terms of use?
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The observation about AW positive feedback but lots of CE reports does not surprise me at all. I know of members either because I have had bookings with them, or they contact me who have very good positive AW feedback but are just awful/difficult/impossible to deal with. Horrendous comms, late, unreliable yet glowing reports. Either I am a fusspot or others are not reporting the truth, or they are well behaved on a few bookings they use booking forms.
This has actually always been the case even prior to CE existence. In some cases I wasn't aware of the person I had banned or had difficulties with having an AW account, then they use it to contact me "Remember me" and I see the very nice feedback (some draw attention to it). They then behave just as they always have done. For a first booking someone might give leeway (for nerves etc), so I think that is how some get the good feedback because as with me, the behaviour was repeated in subsequent bookings becoming utter disrespect (things like flippant cancelling, showing up then walking out saying punting isn't for them, asking for 3rd chances).
AW feedback doesn't show how the person is on other bookings, in the 100 messages/texts/phone calls they've sent to other providers.
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The observation about AW positive feedback but lots of CE reports does not surprise me at all. I know of members either because I have had bookings with them, or they contact me who have very good positive AW feedback but are just awful/difficult/impossible to deal with. Horrendous comms, late, unreliable yet glowing reports. Either I am a fusspot or others are not reporting the truth, or they are well behaved on a few bookings they use booking forms.
This has actually always been the case even prior to CE existence. In some cases I wasn't aware of the person I had banned or had difficulties with having an AW account, then they use it to contact me "Remember me" and I see the very nice feedback (some draw attention to it). They then behave just as they always have done. For a first booking someone might give leeway (for nerves etc), so I think that is how some get the good feedback because as with me, the behaviour was repeated in subsequent bookings becoming utter disrespect (things like flippant cancelling, showing up then walking out saying punting isn't for them, asking for 3rd chances).
AW feedback doesn't show how the person is on other bookings, in the 100 messages/texts/phone calls they've sent to other providers.
Recently I had a guy I'd already blacklisted because he had CE reports - multiple - saying things like "treated me like an animal/slave/object. Because I was ignoring him he contacted me on AW and had multiple positive feedback declaring what a lovely guy he was. Either he was on better behaviour if he knew he was getting an AW report, or these providers were mincing the truth to get good feedback, or don't see the abusive behaviour as a problem. Either way, I was super glad for CE on that day, to have evaded that crap.
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Recently I had a guy I'd already blacklisted because he had CE reports - multiple - saying things like "treated me like an animal/slave/object. Because I was ignoring him he contacted me on AW and had multiple positive feedback declaring what a lovely guy he was. Either he was on better behaviour if he knew he was getting an AW report, or these providers were mincing the truth to get good feedback, or don't see the abusive behaviour as a problem. Either way, I was super glad for CE on that day, to have evaded that crap.
They positive reviews from escorts are false as they are worried about negative feedback themselves.
It doesn't surprise me that these AW 'luvvies' have multiple CE reports.
They are some of the most difficult and self entitled obnoxious pricks I have had the misfortune to meet. I turn many of them down and they always get verbally abusive.
How dare I decline a booking with a man who has so much glowing feedback! *Rollling Eyes*
My AW autoresponse states they need to call me. I no longer enter into comms by email so I can check their numbers on CE.
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I always ask for a number from AW guys before taking a booking from them so I can check it. When I first started with AW, many moons back, it was much more reliable I found, but with its popularity over the years, it has collected up many undesirables into its orbit. This is also why its good CE doesn't allow customers to see their reviews, we need to be able to be as open as possible on there without fear of reprisal, unlike the AW review system.
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They are some of the most difficult and self entitled obnoxious pricks I have had the misfortune to meet. I turn many of them down and they always get verbally abusive.
I recently had someone who reminded me to check his feedback, I didn't answer him over it and he wrote it again and again until finally I snapped and told him that I wasn't interested in his feedback. I didn't take the booking in the end because I think if he is pushing his 'great AW feedback' so much, he doth protest too much.
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I always ask for a number from AW guys before taking a booking from them so I can check it. When I first started with AW, many moons back, it was much more reliable I found, but with its popularity over the years, it has collected up many undesirables into its orbit. This is also why its good CE doesn't allow customers to see their reviews, we need to be able to be as open as possible on there without fear of reprisal, unlike the AW review system.
Yes. So many (in fact the majority) of AW emails I get, refuse to call me to arrange an Outcall. They make excuses or say they will, then disappear.
As if I would make a 2hr round trip and my only form of contact is the AW email system! ::)
Yes ok, how quickly and easily are you going to contact me in an emergency (say your Wife comes home?)
I also treat the ones with dozens of excellent feedback with caution. Who are these guys with a face and body to die for and a scrumptious huge cock? Certainly not the ones who open the door to me ;D
I have also found some of them to be bossy and entitled.
CE Reports are a much more reliable indication, though I like to see a good handful of bad reports before I make the decision not to even engage, to test my own instincts.
I have usually made up my mind to report them myself before seeing the long list of complaints before me :D
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A guy messed me around last year messaged me to say to check his AW feedback, but he is a known timewaster so I ignored. AW feedback means absolutely nothing to me other than they've probably turned up to a booking. I wish I knew about CE when I first started.
It has honestly saved me from a lot of boundary pushers and undesirables. I take them with a pinch of salt but gut instinct too.
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C eye has become a godsend to me saved me such a lot of wasted time with numerous callers who are very unsuitable.
Many of the callers have appauling reports as long as my arm .
Dodged a fair few ;)
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When Ibstarted advertising my number I had a missed call, checked the number and he had 75 reports. Checked today and he has 113 😅
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When Ibstarted advertising my number I had a missed call, checked the number and he had 75 reports. Checked today and he has 113 😅
Jesus wept!!! That has to be a record? I wonder what the highest one is
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Jesus wept!!! That has to be a record? I wonder what the highest one is
125 ::)
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125 ::)
I have had a guy call me other week with 125 reports i thought at the time must be a record and obviously same guy.
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125 ::)
Now that is is stupendously staggering.
You would think he might have realised there was a problem by now but I'm guessing he's a pervy text pest fantasist.
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125 ::)
Omfg unbelievable!!!
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The 113 guy calls asking for video call saying it's his birthday. I blocked after the 1st missed call but he still tries every now and then.
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125 ::)
Bloody hell 😂
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I saw one woman on her profile write i use client eye and num to report and check tws and messers is this not a bad idea to put on adult work?
Very bad idea. This is why bad clients keep changing there numbers. Not being funny but how does someone writing that not understand that will back fire on them and more will change numbers. Not the brightest to write that.
Client eye has become so big lots of clients know about it and getting advised to change there numbers if they cannot get bookings luckily emails and adultwork accounts can also be added and descriptions.
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Sweet my god! She why ruin with this, it is if something works well. :FF
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This was brought to our attention a couple of days ago and we messaged the user via AW, asking politely for CE reference to be removed, they replied and confirmed they had removed the reference to CE.
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Unfortunatelly I don’t think the client eye will work well for long time. [off topic content deleted]. :FF This will have the effect of having problem customers exchange their phone numbers. And they will book us. From whom he has protected us so far, the applicatoion, will no longer. :'(
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Unfortunatelly I don’t think the client eye will work well for long time. [off topic content deleted] This will have the effect of having problem customers exchange their phone numbers. And they will book us. From whom he has protected us so far, the applicatoion, will no longer. :'(
We pay CLOSE attention to those sites too, and that's why a recent change to our apps means every new installation will always see "1 report" when they search, saying:
"Reports the MAY or MAY NOT appear here are restricted, click the shield icon to remove restrictions"
This message will appear to every restricted user even if NO REPORTS exist, which will mean, any clients using our apps will have no idea if they are reported or not, if they do not know they are less likely to change numbers.
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We pay CLOSE attention to those sites too, and that's why a recent change to our apps means every new installation will always see "1 report" when they search, saying:
"Reports the MAY or MAY NOT appear here are restricted, click the shield icon to remove restrictions"
This message will appear to every restricted user even if NO REPORTS exist, which will mean, any clients using our apps will have no idea if they are reported or not, if they do not know they are less likely to change numbers.
Excellent Client eye, least you are 1 step ahead by not allowing any one that is not a sex worker seeing themselves if they have any reports as we know so many have downloaded the app to check there number.
Just to say 99 % of guys i have seen and behaved good and seem like nice men even regulars none of them have got any bad reports for bad behaviour even when i checked months after it does not show any . I do believe most reports are genuine it's probably only a very small percentage that are not and happens occasionally and it's just using our guts to read between the lines for a few that we are not sure of like i did with someone else a while back.
Thanks for keeping a eye on things that need changing from time to time.
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We pay CLOSE attention to those sites too, and that's why a recent change to our apps means every new installation will always see "1 report" when they search, saying:
"Reports the MAY or MAY NOT appear here are restricted, click the shield icon to remove restrictions"
This message will appear to every restricted user even if NO REPORTS exist, which will mean, any clients using our apps will have no idea if they are reported or not, if they do not know they are less likely to change numbers.
Well done ! Big respect to you.
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Excellent Client eye, least you are 1 step ahead by not allowing any one that is not a sex worker seeing themselves if they have any reports as we know so many have downloaded the app to check there number.
Just to say 99 % of guys i have seen and behaved good and seem like nice men even regulars none of them have got any bad reports for bad behaviour even when i checked months after it does not show any . I do believe most reports are genuine it's probably only a very small percentage that are not and happens occasionally and it's just using our guts to read between the lines for a few that we are not sure of like i did with someone else a while back.
Thanks for keeping a eye on things that need changing from time to time.
I've done this too and have found a similar thing, nice regulars don't have reports. Some punters may show up now and then but have no respect generally and so if they can't be bothered to show without cancelling or whatever, just won't. Just because they might show doesn't mean that they are not high risk for TWing and I like to know that is possible before I rush home to shove on my garter belt!
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Could anything be done to block or identify these number apps that guys are now using to disguise their number? I had a guy this morning who I blocked keeps using these online apps to generate a mobile number and call/text me. He admits using the apps to hide his number and hes not the only 1 now that it's common knowledge.
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Could anything be done to block or identify these number apps that guys are now using to disguise their number? I had a guy this morning who I blocked keeps using these online apps to generate a mobile number and call/text me. He admits using the apps to hide his number and hes not the only 1 now that it's common knowledge.
Virtual numbers do not follow a pattern that can be used to identify them as a virtual number, HOWEVER, we have been made aware of an API that reports being able to do these checks and determine if a number is a virtual one or not. Very early stages of looking into it BUT if it's ever possible to identify virtual numbers then we would introduce the feature into our apps.
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Could anything be done to block or identify these number apps that guys are now using to disguise their number? I had a guy this morning who I blocked keeps using these online apps to generate a mobile number and call/text me. He admits using the apps to hide his number and hes not the only 1 now that it's common knowledge.
Omg that's scary. How did he tell you he was using them?
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Could anything be done to block or identify these number apps that guys are now using to disguise their number? I had a guy this morning who I blocked keeps using these online apps to generate a mobile number and call/text me. He admits using the apps to hide his number and hes not the only 1 now that it's common knowledge.
This is booking by deception anyway. Not only should he be reported, but also refused a booking/turned away should he (or anyone else who does this) turn up at your door.
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This is booking by deception anyway. Not only should he be reported, but also refused a booking/turned away should he (or anyone else who does this) turn up at your door.
I doubt it apart from just reporting him on there or getting possible CCTV images of him and reporting to police.
It's pretty disgusting how so many people discuss this on the internet and tell men to just change numbers when a sex worker does not want to see them this is putting women in danger.
Bare in mind which i want to make really clear if you tell a client not to contact you again or you do not want to see them and they book you by deception it's a crime/ harassment and you can report to police for them to take action. Anyone that does this see if you can get a picture of them to report as more evidence or anyone that behaves bad or aggressive in a booking.
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^^ To clarify, I meant reporting on CE - I believe a punter, blocked, banned or otherwise who changes his number in order to get a booking is booking by deception if he’s making contact with someone who has declined him.
I think it’s important to report every number a client uses, along with his name, user name, email or whatever information one has if only to build up a fuller picture so when another woman checks his details, all this information is linked.
There’s a man in North America who has been trying to make a booking with me for almost a year now. I have lost count of the number of names, numbers, email addresses and various other guises he has used to try to trick me. Except he doesn’t because I record IP addresses and I don’t accept FMTY bookings). Even so, his many guises are are all logged on various international databases as well as CE so others can take this into account should he contact them. TBh, I don’t think he’s dangerous, he’s just a massive fantasist. But it is exhausting and stressful to deal with, and if I can stop others at the start from even engaging or responding to him, it’s a win.
Back on topic, I find it abhorrent that some have no qualms telling men they have reports on CE, they’re putting other women at risk. As for the men who download it to check their own numbers, why would anyone do that unless they know they’ve behaved badly? Am so glad CE have made the new changes and that they keep an eye out on any CE discussions online and act/revise accordingly .
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Miffy men who keep searching there own numbers and keep changing sim know deep down they are not a client women want to see but it shows how desperate they are still to have
to do this rather then be a nice reliable respectful client where they do not need to hide there identity.
Like i said before lots of nice clients, reliable, respectful and hygiene good with ones i seen do not have any bad reports besides seeing lots of different women all the time. I tested it out with about 20 guys i seen and more then once that were nice and i know vist many women and even after how many months after none of those 20 had reports apart from just one where it said he booked in advance but cancelled which is not a bad report as such just saying keep a eye out incase he does that regularly.
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THANK YOU Client Eye!
Thanks, restrictions now removed :angel:
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Omg that's scary. How did he tell you he was using them?
When his call came through it was showing as 2 numbers. 1 I had in my contacts and the number app he was using. I asked him and he told me straightvhecdisguises his number for his discretion. He then called back within 5 mins in yet another number which I couldn't check in clientveye.
It was a very brief flash of his real number, as I answered not as it was ringing.
Strange.
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Are client eye able to recieve private PM's on here? I wanted to ask them something about privacy and safety but that is not a good idea to put on a open forum that punters read?
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Advertisers do not have access to the PM system. The advertising rules are at the top of this and the Seeking and Offering sections.
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Yes i know but thought it might be different as it's a safety app and not everything wrote open is a good idea. I will try to contact them another way.
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Yes i know but thought it might be different as it's a safety app and not everything wrote open is a good idea. I will try to contact them another way.
I believe there's a contact method found on their website.
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Are client eye able to recieve private PM's on here? I wanted to ask them something about privacy and safety but that is not a good idea to put on a open forum that punters read?
You can email, DM on Twitter or use the Support ticket option within the iOS testflight and all Android apps.
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Thanks client eye.
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Android update coming this weekend for ClientEye+ (v3.5) and next week for ClientEye (v3.5) from the Playstore.
This update is needed, due to an Android policy change, so we have linked in a small backend update for the same time.
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Android update coming this weekend for ClientEye+ (v3.5) and next week for ClientEye (v3.5) from the Playstore.
This update is needed, due to an Android policy change, so we have linked in a small backend update for the same time.
Hi are you having issues with your payment systems ???Tried many times with my different bank cards and your systems just stays in process mode, for 20 mins each time, before I give up and cancel. I wanted to access the complete database. I got a new phone last year so all my previous reports no longer count. So I need to do a subscription. What other method of payment can we do, if your banking system is down? Can I do bank transfers??
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Hi are you having issues with your payment systems ???Tried many times with my different bank cards and your systems just stays in process mode, for 20 mins each time, before I give up and cancel. I wanted to access the complete database. I got a new phone last year so all my previous reports no longer count. So I need to do a subscription. What other method of payment can we do, if your banking system is down? Can I do bank transfers??
We have no known issue with the payment pages, since the time of your post we have received payments from others without issue. Our card processors use 3d secure, which is a connection flow from your bank when making payments to confirm and verify the payment before its sent.
We can see our payment logs just prior to your post here, and have one payment attempt that failed 8 times, if this was yours then the issue is with the card details you have entered and not any card verification or 3d secure as no card details were captured, this usually means payment failed before being collected i.e. Wrong details entered.
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Sorry if I’m being silly, how do I make a donation via the app? I can’t seem to find a way. I’m sure I’ve missed something, I’m on iOS x
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Hi Client Eye,
I trust you are well.
I just realised that i can't read anymore the reports unless you pay a subscription .
Is it right?
Can i pay through your website or do i have to pay from the phone?.
I would rather pay from my computer rather than phone as i have better security, is that possible?
Thanks to let me know.
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Sorry if I’m being silly, how do I make a donation via the app? I can’t seem to find a way. I’m sure I’ve missed something, I’m on iOS x
Current subscribers can make a donation to help other users via the shield tick icon that appears on all our report result pages. We also have a buyacoffee address you could use, however we cannot post links to it here. you can email, DM on Twitter or open a support ticket from within our apps if you'd like the buyacoffee address.
Hi Client Eye,
I trust you are well.
I just realised that i can't read anymore the reports unless you pay a subscription .
Is it right?
Can i pay through your website or do i have to pay from the phone?.
I would rather pay from my computer rather than phone as i have better security, is that possible?
Thanks to let me know.
Yes and No, when you click on the shield tick icon that appears at the top of all report result pages it takes you to a page on our website that includes your unique ID, you could copy this address and send it to a PC in order to do the subscription but if you make any errors the subscription would not auto active the device you wanted the subscription for. All the connections via mobile or PC are secured in the same way with 3rd party SSL and 3D secure authentication during the process.
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Thank you! X
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Clients installing our apps will always see a default report description regardless of the telephone number they have searched, this is leading some clients to make GDPR requests with us, even when they are in fact not even reported. If clients are reported they also see the same default message so still have no idea if reports actually exist.
The ONLY way clients can ever know if they are reported is if they are told they are by users with full CE access.
A few days ago we were contacted by a client who had been TOLD they were reported, we found the user who told them and blocked them for doing so for 3 days, the client later sent us an image of the report details, the screenshot came from a different user so we have permanently blocked that user from CE.
If any user tells a client they have been reported IT WILL lead the client to get others involved in order to see the report details, this always puts the original reporter at risk of retribution and puts us into a GDPR process which can take up to 30 days to resolve.
EVERY user is shown what IS and what IS not allowed when using CE, every time they make a report, so there is no excuse.
IF you share details of reports with clients, WE WILL BLOCK YOU
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Client eye i know there has been some problems with the unique i.d number changing to different ones, seems to be resolved now how do you know you have definately banned the right women for sharing screenshots to the reported clients?
Obviously we all know we are not supposed to say to a client you got reports on a app called Client Eye but what is your recommended response so other ladies no if someone keeps calling and you see the report then block them then they try you on adultwork account and they have positive feedback and they keep pestering asking why they cannot get through? Would you say best to just block again or just say do not want to see you or not mention the app obviously but say you have a reputation for bad behaviour with service providers and i do not want to see you then block so they know you do not want to see them full stop?
What advice would you give for ladies where the man does not give up and keep trying through his AW account and new numbers that you know is him again?
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Client eye i know there has been some problems with the unique i.d number changing to different ones, seems to be resolved now how do you know you have definately banned the right women for sharing screenshots to the reported clients?
Obviously we all know we are not supposed to say to a client you got reports on a app called Client Eye but what is your recommended response so other ladies no if someone keeps calling and you see the report then block them then they try you on adultwork account and they have positive feedback and they keep pestering asking why they cannot get through? Would you say best to just block again or just say do not want to see you or not mention the app obviously but say you have a reputation for bad behaviour with service providers and i do not want to see you then block so they know you do not want to see them full stop?
What advice would you give for ladies where the man does not give up and keep trying through his AW account and new numbers that you know is him again?
Becasue the screenshot image was timed and included the unique ID, and our search history also confirmed this.
Saying "No" should be sufficient when refusing a booking request, nobody owes anyone an explanation, however for those that keep insisting you could keep blocking their new way of communication or use "I'm busy", "I'm not seeing new clients", or "I'm not working later, today, tomorrow" etc, and using the experience we all have to refuse a booking for any gut feeling we might just get from their interaction.
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It is a tricky one EG. Especially as so many will just create a new account or get another sim. I said no to one in January because he had loads of BB reports, didn't tell him that of course. A few months on I see a chap and at the end of the meet, which did go fine (it was oral only as he got the flop as soon as the rubber went on), he told me I'd previously blocked him, gave me his other number and I knew exactly who it was. He was laughing saying escorts are stupid and punters will find another way of booking them. I was so mad but didn't show it.
A reg recently mentioned he knew of the ap, he's on that review site. I suspect he reads this forum too, as I know lots of them do.
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Becasue the screenshot image was timed and included the unique ID, and our search history also confirmed this.
Saying "No" should be sufficient when refusing a booking request, nobody owes anyone an explanation, however for those that keep insisting you could keep blocking their new way of communication or use "I'm busy", "I'm not seeing new clients", or "I'm not working later, today, tomorrow" etc, and using the experience we all have to refuse a booking for any gut feeling we might just get from their interaction.
Thanks CE. It's a insane situation the amount of reports we see flag up let alone the amount you must have to deal with and bad men expecting reports removed when the solution is just be polite and behave to avoid getting them in the first place.
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It is a tricky one EG. Especially as so many will just create a new account or get another sim. I said no to one in January because he had loads of BB reports, didn't tell him that of course. A few months on I see a chap and at the end of the meet, which did go fine (it was oral only as he got the flop as soon as the rubber went on), he told me I'd previously blocked him, gave me his other number and I knew exactly who it was. He was laughing saying escorts are stupid and punters will find another way of booking them. I was so mad but didn't show it.
A reg recently mentioned he knew of the ap, he's on that review site. I suspect he reads this forum too, as I know lots of them do.
It is more shocking ones been reported for violence or robberies and serious harassment and women just tell then not seeing you as you are a robbing thief and got reports. Where is your brain.
Milf G, booking through deception he knew you blocked him and decided to get one up on you and tell you. I think those types can be dangerous more so though if you actually said to him i do not wish to see you and do not contact me again then he is breaking the law by the deception if contacting you again. Harassment laws.
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We understand users want to say "No, because .... (insert reason here) ..........." but "No sorry, goodbye" and hanging up works just as well :angel:
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We understand users want to say "No, because .... (insert reason here) ..........." but "No sorry, goodbye" and hanging up works just as well :angel:
I hardly ever answer calls with reports now just a waste of my time. If there just timewasting pests i block them or if they are dangerous i will not block them but just not answer there calls or if they persist i make an excuse why i cannot see them. I never block very dangerous ones as they will just get a new sim if load of womens they contact block them.
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It is more shocking ones been reported for violence or robberies and serious harassment and women just tell then not seeing you as you are a robbing thief and got reports. Where is your brain.
Milf G, booking through deception he knew you blocked him and decided to get one up on you and tell you. I think those types can be dangerous more so though if you actually said to him i do not wish to see you and do not contact me again then he is breaking the law by the deception if contacting you again. Harassment laws.
Yeah I'm sure that does happen, well, obviously it does.
I won't be seeing that chap again. I remained polite and didn't show that I wanted to tell him what a wanker he was. I've had another client admit to booking me by deception too, whilst he was lovely and I can remember the original phone call (and was having a bad day) it leaves a sour taste in my mouth that they can do that to us.
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Is anyone having issues with the app not showing the usual Client Eye warning under reported callers?
The green button is toggled on in my settings so I’m at a loss! I’m having to search numbers and find reports after they’ve called me! It’s so annoying! I wouldn’t usually answer calls from reported numbers :FF
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Is anyone having issues with the app not showing the usual Client Eye warning under reported callers?
The green button is toggled on in my settings so I’m at a loss! I’m having to search numbers and find reports after they’ve called me! It’s so annoying! I wouldn’t usually answer calls from reported numbers :FF
I may be wrong but this hasn't worked for a while CE said Google changed rules, the app can't flag up calls as they come in unless the app undergoes £10k worth of work to meet Google criteria
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I may be wrong but this hasn't worked for a while CE said Google changed rules, the app can't flag up calls as they come in unless the app undergoes £10k worth of work to meet Google criteria
Ohh I see!!! ahhh that’s such a shame! That was such a brilliant feature of the app
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A major phone pest has found a way to evade Clienteye seeing his texts and alerting who hes texting. Hes changed his text settings to text chat. So instead of my green text bubble going to him, its now blue.
I changed it back in my text settings and hey presto his reports show up.
So check your texts, make sure your text bubbles are not changing colour and if they do check the "text chat. I assuming it's my Samsungs phone version if free texts to other Samsungs but its definitely evading Clienteye.
Sneaky twats.
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This has been an update in firmware for Samsung devices to allow them to "Chat" using data rather than via "SMS" through the default SMS handler, as has been suggested this will evade the Android SMS checks CE can do, if you want to switch off "Chat" go to Messages, click the 3 dots menu, select settings and then chat settings to switch this feature off and things will default back to being handled by the default SMS handler.
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This has been an update in firmware for Samsung devices to allow them to "Chat" using data rather than via "SMS" through the default SMS handler, as has been suggested this will evade the Android SMS checks CE can do, if you want to switch off "Chat" go to Messages, click the 3 dots menu, select settings and then chat settings to switch this feature off and things will default back to being handled by the default SMS handler.
I can't find chat settings in the messages settings.
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I can't find chat settings in the messages settings.
This is a phone settings change that will differ from device to device, on our test devices the 3 dot menu appears in our phones SMS list
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I can't find chat settings in the messages settings.
On both my Samsung phones its like this
Messages icon (blue circle, white square and 3 dots) tap on there and top right corner you will see 3 vertical dots, tap on those, that brings you to a Dropbox menu, choose settings, at the top of that page you should see chat settings, tap on that and the next page should have a box saying Default message type tap that and you get 3 options, automatic, text or multimedia, chat. You need to click on text or multimedia.
Hope this helps I would post screenshots but its not an option on here sorry
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On both my Samsung phones its like this
Messages icon (blue circle, white square and 3 dots) tap on there and top right corner you will see 3 vertical dots, tap on those, that brings you to a Dropbox menu, choose settings, at the top of that page you should see chat settings, tap on that and the next page should have a box saying Default message type tap that and you get 3 options, automatic, text or multimedia, chat. You need to click on text or multimedia.
Hope this helps I would post screenshots but its not an option on here sorry
I have a Samsung
I have done exactly what you say (had already explored all the menus) here is what I get;
Blue message icon tap
Vertical dots tap
Menu Conversation categories
Recycle bin
Notifications
Block numbers and spam
More settings
Emergency alert history
About Messages
I tried 'more settings' and I get this
Text messages
Multimedia messages
Quick reponses
Push messages
Broadcast channels
Remove location from shared images
Delete old messages
I tried text messages and get this;
Show when delivered
Input mode
SIM card messages
Message centre
If I chose Multimedia messages from last but one menu I get this;
Group conversation
Show when delivers
Show when read
Download automatically
Download when roaming
Attaching unsupported files
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As it's a firmware update it may not have been done for your device yet, only IF a message appears to you in BLUE do you need to start looking for the updated "Chat" feature settings. If it appears in Green (as normal for our phone) it's going through the normal SMS default handler
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Sadly mirror I have no answer to that, sorry if sounded patronising in my post my lovely its always so difficult to try and explain something like this by message.
The only thing I can suggest is heading to Samsungs website and looking for the technical information on your model or possibly going to the live chat if they have one.
If it's any consolation I have to manually input every number I want to check into CE nothing comes up on my phone automatically, but im very low volume P/T so not really an issue for me x
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Sadly mirror I have no answer to that, sorry if sounded patronising in my post my lovely its always so difficult to try and explain something like this by message.
The only thing I can suggest is heading to Samsungs website and looking for the technical information on your model or possibly going to the live chat if they have one.
If it's any consolation I have to manually input every number I want to check into CE nothing comes up on my phone automatically, but im very low volume P/T so not really an issue for me x
Some go into the app automatically (show on the phone alerts menu), some I have to go into the app then scroll down the list inside the app.
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I have the app on my personal phone so now I'm manually inputting the number in to the app as they ring. Saved me a few times.
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Hi guys please can I just check to see if you need to pay now for for client eye?
I’m not sure if it’s a scam or not?
Thanks ✨✨✨
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Yes if its telling you that you need to pay then you do. Some people are still on the free version if they have made a certain number of reports but most people now have to pay for the service
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Hi guys please can I just check to see if you need to pay now for for client eye?
I’m not sure if it’s a scam or not?
Thanks ✨✨✨
It is a paid for service now for many, and eventually for all. I for one WILL be paying when the time comes. It's invaluable. Claim it back against your HMRC.
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I have the app on my personal phone so now I'm manually inputting the number in to the app as they ring. Saved me a few times.
That’s what I do
I’ve been found that for ages as for some reason I was never getting the CE warnings come up
I find it easier as I can just search on my personal phone as they are calling
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That’s what I do
I’ve been found that for ages as for some reason I was never getting the CE warnings come up
I find it easier as I can just search on my personal phone as they are calling
I'm on android so never got alerts as they were ringing. I just used to search the number after, and unwittingly agreed to some bookings that would probably be a no show or boundary pusher so now It's working well. I know they're a timewaster before agreeing to anything. Wish I'd bl00dy done this months ago!
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I'm on android so never got alerts as they were ringing. I just used to search the number after, and unwittingly agreed to some bookings that would probably be a no show or boundary pusher so now It's working well. I know they're a timewaster before agreeing to anything. Wish I'd bl00dy done this months ago!
I find this happens half the time with me reports can come up after call has ended so i just search it after then call them back if a clean record.
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Hi Client Eye, would there be any plans to allow more info on a report as sometimes difficult to get all the words in as it is set at so many letters?
If a poster who has reported something more serious (not for timewasters or no show) about a client and you need to ask another user a question about it or if they have more details to give, is there a way we can message you on the app and you can message the user i.d person to ask something is this possible?
Thanks.
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Hi Client Eye, would there be any plans to allow more info on a report as sometimes difficult to get all the words in as it is set at so many letters?
If a poster who has reported something more serious (not for timewasters or no show) about a client and you need to ask another user a question about it or if they have more details to give, is there a way we can message you on the app and you can message the user i.d person to ask something is this possible?
Thanks.
We originally had a limit of 128 characters and were asked to increase, so we increased to 256 characters.
We did, for a short time, have no limit, BUT, we had a couple of users who liked to expand on every detail and make novel-type entries, so reverted back to 256 characters.
Inter-user messaging is something we have looked at in the past but we decided against it, as it would open up the possibility of clients attempting to contact users who had made reports. Verified user to verified user messaging via admin would, unfortunately, be a minefield, opening up the possibility of user coercion by clients in an attempt to get the original reporters to open up about any reporting they had done.
We know clients already attempt to coerce users into divulging report information, having user to user messaging would be another avenue they would no doubt take.
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We originally had a limit of 128 characters and were asked to increase, so we increased to 256 characters.
We did, for a short time, have no limit, BUT, we had a couple of users who liked to expand on every detail and make novel-type entries, so reverted back to 256 characters.
Inter-user messaging is something we have looked at in the past but we decided against it, as it would open up the possibility of clients attempting to contact users who had made reports. Verified user to verified user messaging via admin would, unfortunately, be a minefield, opening up the possibility of user coercion by clients in an attempt to get the original reporters to open up about any reporting they had done.
We know clients already attempt to coerce users into divulging report information, having user to user messaging would be another avenue they would no doubt take.
Ok i get those points entirely. I suppose if there was a situation where police were investigating a serious attack you yourself could post details of what police department to contact if other victims wanted to come forward. Thanks CE.
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Ok i get those points entirely. I suppose if there was a situation where police were investigating a serious attack you yourself could post details of what police department to contact if other victims wanted to come forward. Thanks CE.
Yes, we have had requests from the police before, and in the past, we have added extra report details showing any officer in charge of investigation details
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Yes, we have had requests from the police before, and in the past, we have added extra report details showing any officer in charge of investigation details
That is good to know for the more serious reports.
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I have been using this app for a few months now and it has really helped me a lot. I always check the app before taking bookings. Thank goodness for this app.
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I cannot use ClientEye now it has switched to a paid model only. I don't feel the reasons given justify the cost being imposed. It's crossing my mind to make an Information Commissioners Office (ICO) complaint as the data which has been obtained to date was not on the understanding it would become a closed paid for only application and that this "bait and switch" move is a breach of contract. It is a possibility that ICO might force either unpaid access or deletion of all data obtained prior to the previously undisclosed switch to a paid model and I am exploring this for making a complaint.
I know I'm not the only one who views ClientEye's "bait and switch" shifting to a paid model only as appropriation of valuable data and taking advantage.
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I recently paid Client Eye for a year in order to read reports. This was on September 16th. Yesterday my phone which isn’t even that old had a major hissy fit and I had to to a factory reset to restore data. It did not reinstall Client Eye only basic apps.
I had to reinstall it and am back to being restricted. This hardly seems fair, and either my access should be restored or I would expect a refund. I have proof from my bank account that I paid
Please get back to me I on this asap Client Eye. I will also be contacting you on Twitter.
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I recently paid Client Eye for a year in order to read reports. This was on September 16th. Yesterday my phone which isn’t even that old had a major hissy fit and I had to to a factory reset to restore data. It did not reinstall Client Eye only basic apps.
I had to reinstall it and am back to being restricted. This hardly seems fair, and either my access should be restored or I would expect a refund. I have proof from my bank account that I paid
Please get back to me I on this asap Client Eye. I will also be contacting you on Twitter.
All new installations of ClientEye are restricted by default, as when new installs happen we have no idea if the installer is a client or a worker. Users have to request restriction removal by completing a form on our website, when this restriction is removed only then can we transfer any subscription from any old installation to the new installation.
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I cannot use ClientEye now it has switched to a paid model only. I don't feel the reasons given justify the cost being imposed. It's crossing my mind to make an Information Commissioners Office (ICO) complaint as the data which has been obtained to date was not on the understanding it would become a closed paid for only application and that this "bait and switch" move is a breach of contract. It is a possibility that ICO might force either unpaid access or deletion of all data obtained prior to the previously undisclosed switch to a paid model and I am exploring this for making a complaint.
I know I'm not the only one who views ClientEye's "bait and switch" shifting to a paid model only as appropriation of valuable data and taking advantage.
We have discussed this many times on many platforms, you and others may not agree with what we have done, but I will tell you personally if we had stayed the way we were, ClientEye would no longer exist. In regards to the ICO, make a complaint if you feel you have grounds to do so, we consult with the ICO on a weekly basis.
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All new installations of ClientEye are restricted by default, as when new installs happen we have no idea if the installer is a client or a worker. Users have to request restriction removal by completing a form on our website, when this restriction is removed only then can we transfer any subscription from any old installation to the new installation.
The only contact form that come seems to be a demo request. When I tried to make an account thinking that would make things easier to contact you, there is no way to do it, the button for create an account is not clickable.
I will send via your only available contact form.
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The only contact form that come seems to be a demo request. When I tried to make an account thinking that would make things easier to contact you, there is no way to do it, the button for create an account is not clickable.
I will send via your only available contact form.
Our restriction removal form is only available on our website on weekdays.
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I think client eye is a life saver for many of us and it has saved me and I’m sure many other SP from Timewaster’s and more importantly Abusive men, I don’t see any harm in paying contributions towards something that people have created out of the goodness of their own hearts to protect us all. I know the creators of CE were doing it all for free for a long time, why would anyone want to report it to have it taken down?! That’s just selfish
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Thanks Client Eye for sorting this out via Twitter today. I have to hope my phone doesn’t have another hissy fit! I do appreciate your app and was worried about working without it, although obviously there are other safety measures we take.
I recently paid Client Eye for a year in order to read reports. This was on September 16th. Yesterday my phone which isn’t even that old had a major hissy fit and I had to to a factory reset to restore data. It did not reinstall Client Eye only basic apps.
I had to reinstall it and am back to being restricted. This hardly seems fair, and either my access should be restored or I would expect a refund. I have proof from my bank account that I paid
Please get back to me I on this asap Client Eye. I will also be contacting you on Twitter.
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I cannot use ClientEye now it has switched to a paid model only. I don't feel the reasons given justify the cost being imposed. It's crossing my mind to make an Information Commissioners Office (ICO) complaint as the data which has been obtained to date was not on the understanding it would become a closed paid for only application and that this "bait and switch" move is a breach of contract. It is a possibility that ICO might force either unpaid access or deletion of all data obtained prior to the previously undisclosed switch to a paid model and I am exploring this for making a complaint.
I know I'm not the only one who views ClientEye's "bait and switch" shifting to a paid model only as appropriation of valuable data and taking advantage.
They have to man all these reports thousands of them and verify women it must use so much of there time up. I don't begrudge paying them a small fee but if you do maybe just don't use them is the best option. I don't see why reporting them is needed or fair to all the good they have done.
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I cannot use ClientEye now it has switched to a paid model only. I don't feel the reasons given justify the cost being imposed. It's crossing my mind to make an Information Commissioners Office (ICO) complaint as the data which has been obtained to date was not on the understanding it would become a closed paid for only application and that this "bait and switch" move is a breach of contract. It is a possibility that ICO might force either unpaid access or deletion of all data obtained prior to the previously undisclosed switch to a paid model and I am exploring this for making a complaint.
I know I'm not the only one who views ClientEye's "bait and switch" shifting to a paid model only as appropriation of valuable data and taking advantage.
If it is simply a case of being unable to afford the subscription fee then I would advise talking to CE, I like many others make a monthly donation over and above our annual subscription to allow them to allocate that to sex workers who cannot afford the subscription or are vulnerable
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I don't begrudge paying them a small fee but if you do maybe just don't use them is the best option. I don't see why reporting them is needed
Exactly. I've never used and have no plans to use this app, but as much as I envy the amount of time some have on their hands to faff about like this, I can assure them that following suit, climbing back down off the high horse and finding something useful to do is the way forward.
I cannot use ClientEye now it has switched to a paid model only. I don't feel the reasons given justify the cost being imposed [...]
As far as the forum is concerned I'll say this once; if you want to continue posting freely, it's time to give these weird, pompous semi-lectures about nothing in particular a rest.
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That’s a bit much client has helped me a lot with the reports with possibly getting assaulted or robbed by clients with bad reviews. It doesn’t even cost that much. Not much is free in life and they are providing a service. It takes time and admin for them to keep the app on.
I cannot use ClientEye now it has switched to a paid model only. I don't feel the reasons given justify the cost being imposed. It's crossing my mind to make an Information Commissioners Office (ICO) complaint as the data which has been obtained to date was not on the understanding it would become a closed paid for only application and that this "bait and switch" move is a breach of contract. It is a possibility that ICO might force either unpaid access or deletion of all data obtained prior to the previously undisclosed switch to a paid model and I am exploring this for making a complaint.
I know I'm not the only one who views ClientEye's "bait and switch" shifting to a paid model only as appropriation of valuable data and taking advantage.
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That’s a bit much client has helped me a lot with the reports with possibly getting assaulted or robbed by clients with bad reviews. It doesn’t even cost that much. Not much is free in life and they are providing a service. It takes time and admin for them to keep the app on.
Agreed. Saved me from some very dangerous men. I paid it, spoke to my accountant (who was previously a client) and explained why I needed to expense. It's actually a tiny amount to pay.
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If you look back you'll likely find a post by me incredibly sceptical of CE when it first started, and my work phone wasn't compatible. I have however taken it on board over a long period of time and now find it incredibly informative, I use it as a tool to figure out who may or may not be genuine and reassurance that it's not just me being rude or moody.
Doesn't mean I won't accept bookings, and some reports are just agreeing with previous reports on basis of having read the report after the call but not actually experiencing any problem (I think some actually say they missed the call).
The main benefit over NUM is ability to see the report without having to dig into a website, just click and the information is there. That said I am going to get back into the routine of searching here and NUM.
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The only contact form that come seems to be a demo request. When I tried to make an account thinking that would make things easier to contact you, there is no way to do it, the button for create an account is not clickable.
I will send via your only available contact form.
You can contact them on Twitter - contact them regularly on Twitter and they respond quickly
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You can contact them on Twitter - contact them regularly on Twitter and they respond quickly
Yes if you look back at the thread I did so and posted a thank you, it was resolved!
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My client eye app is not working i click on it and it's just a frozen screen saying Client eye but will not go anywhere or load. I have tried turning phone on and off. Seems a problem just with this app no other's on my phone. Any suggestions?
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My client eye app is not working i click on it and it's just a frozen screen saying Client eye but will not go anywhere or load. I have tried turning phone on and off. Seems a problem just with this app no other's on my phone. Any suggestions?
I'm having the same issue although it does allow me be put info in but when I press submit it's just buffering. Hopefully just a glitch. I tried to contact them to see what's happening but that wouldn't send either.
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I'm having the same issue although it does allow me be put info in but when I press submit it's just buffering. Hopefully just a glitch. I tried to contact them to see what's happening but that wouldn't send either.
Yep others told me there one is not working either and you cannot send them a message on the app as it's frozen and will not move.
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ClientEye was working fine for me this morning, now it won’t load regardless of closing and re opening the app.
Hopefully it’ll be up and running ASAP
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Same - they have reported on Twitter they are working on the issue.
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I emailed using the link in the payment confirmation from a few days ago and they replied saying they have been having issues all day and to try app again but be sure NOT to uninstall as you will be locked out of reports again. Just tried it and it seems fine now.
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Sorry for the late reply on this.
We had a server overloading issue at about 11 am this morning which ran for about 3hrs, we put out a quick tweet whilst we attempted to fix the error as we were receiving multiple messages regarding the outage.
During the outage, our server's load averages were >120+ when they are normally below <2 ( 5900% over normal loads ) and the server could not handle it.
We hope the issue has been resolved for now ( current load averages are <2 ), and will continue to track what caused it in an attempt to stop it from happening again, we have done a couple of things but it's somewhat guesswork at this stage.
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Sorry for the late reply on this.
We had a server overloading issue at about 11 am this morning which ran for about 3hrs, we put out a quick tweet whilst we attempted to fix the error as we were receiving multiple messages regarding the outage.
During the outage, our server's load averages were >120+ when they are normally below <2 ( 5900% over normal loads ) and the server could not handle it.
We hope the issue has been resolved for now ( current load averages are <2 ), and will continue to track what caused it in an attempt to stop it from happening again, we have done a couple of things but it's somewhat guesswork at this stage.
Thank you for me numbers which had reports were not showing any reports, when I saw the posts here an hour or so ago I tried and then saw reports again.
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I hope it's fixed now. Obviously things can go wrong occassionly part of life. Thanks for letting us know and if it happens again maybe you could update on here too as not on twitter and could not message you via the app to know it was a fault for everyone.
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I hope it's fixed now. Obviously things can go wrong occassionly part of life. Thanks for letting us know and if it happens again maybe you could update on here too as not on twitter and could not message you via the app to know it was a fault for everyone.
We have done so in the past, unfortunately, today it was all hands on deck going from zero to 100mph within 2 mins.
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We have done so in the past, unfortunately, today it was all hands on deck going from zero to 100mph within 2 mins.
This is what I imagined, I reminded myself of when something goes wrong I will be busy trying to fix it as priority rather than posting notes in different places. Twitter is wider than SAAFE although some members here may not use Twitter. I just hoped it would be sorted out soon, and hadn't noticed because searches came back as if nothing was reported anyway.
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I think l would have given up this job if client eye didn’t exist. Thank you for all you have done.
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We received an email over the weekend in regards to reports that appeared for various numbers on ClientEye, these reports related to what has been found to be AW's 2 way SMS service numbers (23 of them), the 40 reports that were registered against these numbers have been removed and replaced with a ClientEye message stating it's an AW 2 way SMS service and not an individual client, the descriptions now say:
"CLIENTEYE OFFICIAL: This number and others are official Adultwork 2-way SMS numbers and are not client numbers. Other numbers linked ............ "
Whilst the original report descriptions will have been accurate in their events, we thought it best to remove the report descriptions and replace them with the above ClientEye message instead, as various clients could have used the AW 2 way SMS service.
Emma
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We received an email over the weekend in regards to reports that appeared for various numbers on ClientEye, these reports related to what has been found to be AW's 2 way SMS service numbers (23 of them), the 40 reports that were registered against these numbers have been removed and replaced with a ClientEye message stating it's an AW 2 way SMS service and not an individual client, the descriptions now say:
"CLIENTEYE OFFICIAL: This number and others are official Adultwork 2-way SMS numbers and are not client numbers. Other numbers linked ............ "
Whilst the original report descriptions will have been accurate in their events, we thought it best to remove the report descriptions and replace them with the above ClientEye message instead, as various clients could have used the AW 2 way SMS service.
Emma
I had noticed these reports a month or two ago and myself sent something to you within the app. Glad it's tidied up.
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Can you please advise if Client Eye is used a lot in Northern Ireland please? Been years since l have been.
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Can you please advise if Client Eye is used a lot in Northern Ireland please? Been years since l have been.
Not as much as we would like, you may be better with the uglymugs.ie app by SafeIQ who cover Ireland & NI better
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Not as much as we would like, you may be better with the uglymugs.ie app by SafeIQ who cover Ireland & NI better
Thanks. That may change once l tour there 😂
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I have started receiving notifications from Google Play telling me CE is a risk, asking me to uninstall.
I'm guessing this is a result of the Google changes posted about earlier this year. I'm not bothered but I'd rather not have the notification.
Do you have a statement about this CE, to reassure please?
I have turned of Play Protect on my phone, the notifications were becoming constant - bleeps every few minutes.
Update I'm still getting through notifications :FF
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I have started receiving notifications from Google Play telling me CE is a risk, asking me to uninstall.
I'm guessing this is a result of the Google changes posted about earlier this year. I'm not bothered but I'd rather not have the notification.
Do you have a statement about this CE, to reassure please?
I have turned of Play Protect on my phone, the notifications were becoming constant - bleeps every few minutes.
Update I'm still getting through notifications :FF
It's a device setting in your phone that looks for apps not downloaded from the playstore, as ClientEye+ uses features not allowed by the Playstore & it's only available via our website. You should be able to switch off the warnings by going to (Playstore/Clicking your name icon (top right)/Play Protect/Settings)
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Not as much as we would like, you may be better with the uglymugs.ie app by SafeIQ who cover Ireland & NI better
Just to let you know when I’ve had calls or texts and the numbers showing on Irish Ugly mugs I’ve put a report on CE. Indeed some of them justified a CE from me and added that info when appropriate. And not even there yet 😂
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ClientEye will be unavailable 26th November 2022 10pm-3am We have received a message from our server hosts regarding planned downtime.
On Saturday 26th November we will be performing a datacentre migration of our entire infrastructure. Work will start at 10PM and be complete by 3AM Sunday morning. During this period all services will be offline.
Please DO NOT re-install during this maintenance period
We are posting this message on Saafe, on Twitter, and on our apps thank you pages so all should be aware of this planned downtime.
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When using the client eye app I got a message saying I have used up all of my free searches and it seems I can’t search again. Is there a charge after using it for a while?
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When using the client eye app I got a message saying I have used up all of my free searches and it seems I can’t search again. Is there a charge after using it for a while?
Yes they explained this further back in the thread that when your free limit runs out you have to pay a fee and they verify you are a sex worker.
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New day new issue!
Our ClientEye website has been (incorrectly) reported as hosting malicious software and will display a warning to users trying to access the website for restriction removal, our apps & databases are unaffected and we are working on resolving the issue.
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New day new issue!
Our ClientEye website has been (incorrectly) reported as hosting malicious software and will display a warning to users trying to access the website for restriction removal, our apps & databases are unaffected and we are working on resolving the issue.
Aah yes i noticed yesterday i got warnings coming up from google play saying CE is harmful. I wondered what that was.
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Am getting that warning every time l go on Vivastreet today.
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Aah yes i noticed yesterday i got warnings coming up from google play saying CE is harmful. I wondered what that was.
I think this is a separate thing, I posted about Google Play a week or so ago - I will find my posts. I have had to turn play protect off and silence the alerts because it still kept on alerting me.
Please see posts quoted below in next posts.
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I have started receiving notifications from Google Play telling me CE is a risk, asking me to uninstall.
I'm guessing this is a result of the Google changes posted about earlier this year. I'm not bothered but I'd rather not have the notification.
Do you have a statement about this CE, to reassure please?
I have turned of Play Protect on my phone, the notifications were becoming constant - bleeps every few minutes.
Update I'm still getting through notifications :FF
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It's a device setting in your phone that looks for apps not downloaded from the playstore, as ClientEye+ uses features not allowed by the Playstore & it's only available via our website. You should be able to switch off the warnings by going to (Playstore/Clicking your name icon (top right)/Play Protect/Settings)
This still did not stop it completely, even after turning it off I had to literally 'silence' Play Protect warnings.
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Google has scanned our website and decided one of our apps is harmful, it's 100% NOT, it's decided this as our ClientEye+ app does things google Playstore used to allow, but it no longer does, due to a google policy change. When this change was made, we moved the app to a download on our website.
We have removed the ClientEye+ app file from our website and are in the process of asking google to review the website to remove the block message when accessing it.
Our playstore (Android) and App store (iOS) app downloads are unaffected and still available, and our already installed apps are working. (Although ClientEye+ users may still receive the annoying warnings)
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A reminder to not mention this app anywhere, this includes on your profile, website or if you're countering a review on a punters' review site. The latter is a spectacularly stupid thing to do, particularly if you're telling a punter directly he was reports on CE. All he will do is buy a new SIM.
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The off topic posts have been removed and the thread can stay on topic now. Please do not derail or further action will be taken.
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The number of calls I’ve received from yesterday night to today made me realise my suspicions. These wankers know we have a tool we use to protect ourselves and the moment it’s down, my phone doesn’t stop ringing. All night. I really can’t wait for it to be back cause I’m paranoid taking in clients but insisting on deposit which is also a good screening tool
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I suspect that's more about this being month end and they can afford to book an escort rather than that many of them realising CE was down
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We are aware of server load issues at the moment and are looking into it
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Yes, there's so much lag, I have to cut calls to check CE .
Hope it can be fixed soon.
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I was verifying the other day for use on another phone and a pop up asked me to verify with my bank.
I verified then realised I had been scammed.
The bank have been great and they are refunding my £1 and if any other money is taken they will refund me and charge these scammers.
There must be a security glitch so do be on your guard.
I'm not happy. I'm now not bothering with my other phone and don't know if I have limited searches are not.
Just so much hassle.
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This has NOTHING to do with us! we explained this to you last week when you messaged us directly.
There is NO security glitch with our systems or with our payment pages, we explained any payments made to us appear as Airwave Apps and NOT the name you mentioned to us.
The POPUP that appeared on your phone is unique to an issue in YOUR PHONE, and NOT related to ClientEye in any way.
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My phone is new and there's no need to shout, I'm not deaf.
The problem is not with you but with malware that popped up when I was trying to follow your instructions.
What I was trying to ascertain is if it was possible to pay for CE on more than one device but didn't get that far in the conversation as I was dealing with my bank and the scammers.
Ps. Im delighted it is not anything to do with CE but the timing was suspicious. I happily subscribe to you. It was also confusing having to deal with texting you on my work phone whilst trying to get permissions for my private phone which I still don't know whether I have or not.
I appreciate it must be difficult dealing with some issues that arise but things can be stressful on both sides.
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I changed my work phone recently.
I tried to verify the number via the link provided but after filling up the form it says "This site can't be reached. The web page might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address."
How to remove the restrictions, please?
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I changed my work phone recently.
I tried to verify the number via the link provided but after filling up the form it says "This site can't be reached. The web page might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address."
How to remove the restrictions, please?
The form is available via the shield tick icon within the app 8am-6pm Mon to Fri
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The form is available via the shield tick icon within the app 8am-6pm Mon to Fri
Sorted, thank you! x
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I have used all my free searches on CE. How do I get the paid app and how much is it? I tried to find the answer here but couldn’t, as there are over 60 pages on CE.
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I have used all my free searches on CE. How do I get the paid app and how much is it? I tried to find the answer here but couldn’t, as there are over 60 pages on CE.
Click the shield tick icon when it appears on the report results pages, different options appear for different users depending on their restriction status, subscription prices are also listed on the click-through pages.
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Is it possible to remove a report, please?
I misjudged a harmless sod :-\
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Is it possible to remove a report, please?
I misjudged a harmless sod :-\
If you are an iOS user, search for and report 07000111222, enter the number to be removed in the report description, and submit it, once received we will ensure your ID matches the ID of the report to be removed, if it matches we will remove within 24hrs if it does not match it will not be removed.
If you are an Android user, click on the report description text, and a delete option appears to the original reporter so they can delete it.
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Great, thank you! Removed.
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I've changed the phone yet again. 😩
Transferred ClientEye from the old phone but after opening it was frozen on the initial screen (where you had to choose the country).
I restarted the phone - nada. Then uninstalled the app, and installed again (via ClientEye website -> Google Play store). It's not on the phone though. 😩😩
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I've changed the phone yet again. 😩
Transferred ClientEye from the old phone but after opening it was frozen on the initial screen (where you had to choose the country).
I restarted the phone - nada. Then uninstalled the app, and installed again (via ClientEye website -> Google Play store). It's not on the phone though. 😩😩
If you have downloaded ClientEye+ from the website and installed it, it will be on your phone somewhere. That's where the playstore usually puts them
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Sorry my above reply didn't make sense, but if downloaded from the playstore it will be in your phone somewhere
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It's resurrected! On the phone. But still frozen on the "choosing the country" page.
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Not frozen! :) Thank you.
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Me again, sorry. At the top there are now only 2 options: "Contacts" and "Search".
"List" and "Sms" (if I remember correctly) are not there.
Also, I turned on the notifications but they are not appearing.
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Me again, sorry. At the top there are now only 2 options: "Contacts" and "Search".
"List" and "Sms" (if I remember correctly) are not there.
Also, I turned on the notifications but they are not appearing.
We have 2 versions of ClientEye for Android, ClientEye on the playstore (the one you have installed) and ClientEye+ which is linked from within the ClientEye settings cog icon.
The 2 are different in their capabilities (ClientEye+ has the features you mention)
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Got the VIP version, many thanks!
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Quick, possibly dull question but if I download the CE+ version from within the app settings will I need to go through the verification process again or will it just work as normal but withthe extra features.
I'm on tour atm and can't afford the app to go down but it would be really useful to have the number flag rather than me having to manually search each time
Cheers Wolfie
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Click the shield tick icon when it appears on the report results pages, different options appear for different users depending on their restriction status, subscription prices are also listed on the click-through pages.
When I do this it keeps going to Vivastreet, not payment options.
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When I do this it keeps going to Vivastreet, not payment options.
Sounds like you are clicking the vivastreet banner at the top of the app rather than the shield tick icon next to the word privacy
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Quick, possibly dull question but if I download the CE+ version from within the app settings will I need to go through the verification process again or will it just work as normal but withthe extra features.
I'm on tour atm and can't afford the app to go down but it would be really useful to have the number flag rather than me having to manually search each time
Cheers Wolfie
Apologies for the late reply, we have not been able to access the "Spamming in the lion's den" section for a few weeks (unsure why)
It will be a new installation and therefore restricted by default for which you will need to go through the restriction removal process.
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Apologies for the late reply, we have not been able to access the "Spamming in the lion's den" section for a few weeks (unsure why)
It will be a new installation and therefore restricted by default for which you will need to go through the restriction removal process.
Thank you, no worries on the late reply it seems everyone had issues accessing this section, I will do the upgrade and go through the process again :)
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Sounds like you are clicking the vivastreet banner at the top of the app rather than the shield tick icon next to the word privacy
Nothing happens when I click the shield tick icon, it just says loading. Does it only work on android, as I have an iPhone?
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Nothing happens when I click the shield tick icon, it just says loading. Does it only work on android, as I have an iPhone?
It works on ios and android, close down the page (incase there's been a loading issue) and then re-select the shield tick icon
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It works on ios and android, close down the page (incase there's been a loading issue) and then re-select the shield tick icon
I have tried that and restarting my phone but still get the loading message every time I try to click on the shield. If that’s the only way to do it?
I have the regular client eye app not the client eye plus app, as I didn’t see an option for that in the App Store.
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I have tried that and restarting my phone but still get the loading message every time I try to click on the shield. If that’s the only way to do it?
I have the regular client eye app not the client eye plus app, as I didn’t see an option for that in the App Store.
The ClientEye+ link appears within the setting cog of ClientEye, if the page continues to just display the loading screen, close it down, re-click the shield tick icon to reload the page, if it happens again refresh the page until the loading screen disappears
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Okay I think I don’t have a shield tick icon option. There is a symbol which looks like an exclamation mark within two arrows, next to the word privacy. This is what I was clicking as you said the icon was next to the privacy icon.
There is nothing on the page that looks like a should or a tick so I don’t really know what to do. Thanks. I really want the client eye plus version.
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Okay I think I don’t have a shield tick icon option. There is a symbol which looks like an exclamation mark within two arrows, next to the word privacy. This is what I was clicking as you said the icon was next to the privacy icon.
There is nothing on the page that looks like a should or a tick so I don’t really know what to do. Thanks. I really want the client eye plus version.
An exclamation mark sometimes appears in place of an image that has not loaded correctly
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Okay, well I have tried over 50 times now and nothing happens. Isn’t there any other way to get Client Eye+?
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Okay, well I have tried over 50 times now and nothing happens. Isn’t there any other way to get Client Eye+?
Shut down your app and reopen it, click the setting cog OR the exclamation mark if the image has not loaded, and the ClientEye+ link appears in the banner that loads. There's no other way to get it
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You may find the app isn’t fully closing soother things to try are
Close all open pages or tabs on the phone
Clear all caches and browsing history
Turn your phone off, shut it down completely or do a restart
Then try opening the CE app again and see 8f that makes a difference
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Is anyone else having issues with client eye? It won’t let me search anything, just buffering each time?
Really hope this is sorted by tomorrow as it’s a vital part of my screening :( x
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Is anyone else having issues with client eye? It won’t let me search anything, just buffering each time?
Really hope this is sorted by tomorrow as it’s a vital part of my screening :( x
This is the text we put out last night on Twitter:
We are aware of some issues tonight with search results not displaying in our apps, this has been caused by an external plugin website failure which is unfortunately out of our control ... We hope the issue will be resolved soon.
Thankfully this was resolved at 12am, with only 2hrs downtime for our apps
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Shut down your app and reopen it, click the setting cog OR the exclamation mark if the image has not loaded, and the ClientEye+ link appears in the banner that loads. There's no other way to get it
I have tried this, clearing my cache and restarting my iPhone. Nothing works. It’s a great app but obviously there’s something wrong with it since it will not load to the link to Client eye +.
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I have tried this, clearing my cache and restarting my iPhone. Nothing works. It’s a great app but obviously there’s something wrong with it since it will not load to the link to Client eye +.
Please email us or DM us on Twitter so we can better discuss this.
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Please email us or DM us on Twitter so we can better discuss this.
Okay I have done that. I was told Client eye+ only works with android not IPhone.
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Please email us or DM us on Twitter so we can better discuss this.
Your email is not accepting incoming emails from here and, quite possibly, elsewhere. Notifications have been turned off for you.
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I'm 1 day into my first ever tour and about 80% of the contacts I've had are from guys with CEye reports.
Is this normal?
I've only worked before in my rural home area where 80+%of contacts don't have reports.
Does anyone see them anyway?
I tried going further with about half the ones who were reported as timewasters and...they didn't follow through. Duh.
But I've just had a missed call from a guy with one TW report from 2021, am wondering if I should try him.
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Having all the local timewasters contact you the first time you work in a new location is completely normal (because all the locals have blocked them already) and always has been, yes. Once somebody else arrives, they'll move on.
I've never used this app, but I've moved your post to it's thread so that those who do can be more helpful since it's a very specific question.
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Having all the local timewasters contact you the first time you work in a new location is completely normal (because all the locals have blocked them already) and always has been, yes. Once somebody else arrives, they'll move on.
I've never used this app, but I've moved your post to it's thread so that those who do can be more helpful since it's a very specific question.
Hi Amy :)
Just read that you’ve never used this app and I feel like since having it I really
Let it dictate who I don’t see and for whatever reasons. I’m thinking of getting rid. Do you not like the idea of it? Or just not see a need for it, maybe?
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Hi Amy :)
Just read that you’ve never used this app and I feel like since having it I really
Let it dictate who I don’t see and for whatever reasons. I’m thinking of getting rid. Do you not like the idea of it? Or just not see a need for it, maybe?
I was initially sceptical, refused to use it (and it wasn't compatible with my then work phone). I tried it on another phone, just manually searching then installed it on a work phone upgrade.
So I got used it it over time.
I don't let it dictate I let it inform and support me. There are a lot of what I call 'bandwagon' reports but I find it supportive in that if I have had a difficult enquiry if I see others have the same experience I feel I've done ok. The type where I am not sure if I was being unpatient or not understanding, rude or got the wrong end of the stick.
I find most of the awful ones are truly awful, they wouldn't be getting a booking app or no app.
I report only when the person has blatantly been difficult, rude, awful and include as much factual info as I can fit into the 280 character limit.
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I find it useful, but only take ones that say no show or dangerous client seriously. Some of the reports seem unnecessary. Like someone saying a person has texted loads but never books.
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Yeah, that's kind of how I'm feeling my way into it.
I've seen a couple that have one or two timewaster reports and they were both the nervous shy type...who might well have backed out.
It's hard to tell when messing us is about is malicious and when it's nerves. I know both have the same effect but I'm more likely to give leeway to the nervous types, and usually end up with a fantastic booking.
It's interesting to hear how others use it, as I was really on alert for all reports at first.
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Is CE down at the moment as l can’t get on it. It keeps saying Connection issue and I’m trying with both EE and Vodaphone and WiFi.
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Is CE down at the moment as l can’t get on it. It keeps saying Connection issue and I’m trying with both EE and Vodaphone and WiFi.
Same.for me, just as a few enquiries came in after a quiet week!
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Is CE down at the moment as l can’t get on it. It keeps saying Connection issue and I’m trying with both EE and Vodaphone and WiFi.
Same.for me, just as a few enquiries came in after a quiet week!
The connection issue was caused by a 3rd party addon we use being down, we have put checks into our system this morning, so if it happens again, our systems will handle this error and bypass it, rather than waiting for data and stalling the app.
When errors happen we always update our Twitter to inform users, if you follow us there, you will get updates to issues and fixes much quicker.
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many men from tinder have reports on their number (check on CE)
that's amusing and reassuring... :FF
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Yeah, that's kind of how I'm feeling my way into it.
I've seen a couple that have one or two timewaster reports and they were both the nervous shy type...who might well have backed out.
It's hard to tell when messing us is about is malicious and when it's nerves. I know both have the same effect but I'm more likely to give leeway to the nervous types, and usually end up with a fantastic booking.
It's interesting to hear how others use it, as I was really on alert for all reports at first.
As time has gone on and the more women know about CE you will find many men calling will have reports against them. Sometimes a huge portion of calls in some areas could have them.
The odd report when someone just has 1 report saying Timewaster which gives no useful info i take with a pinch of salt or possibly just a basic 1 report saying no show but a while ago. For me when i report someone i like to give more info than just timewaster and one word as it does not give enough to how they wasted your time.
The most useful part of CE is how many escorts wants to pick up a phone to someone we know never shows up for bookings and just wants to get off on hearing our voice and try to get some dirty talk going? Probably not many. When these types have like 10 to 50 reports you know 100% that they are a waste of oxygen so i don't want to pick up the phone to them and try to screen them and waste my time on a leech. I don't want to give those types any of my time.
So i don't answer the phone no where as near as i did 3 years ago and it's the biggest part of how CE saves me even speaking to them.
CE warns us of dangerous men who might have attacked, robbed a sex worker or that tries to remove the condom and some of these types have several reports so instantly i know not to even go there.
There is plenty of women who still take bookings off someone who has reports of 4 or 5 no shows as they say stuff like i saw all the reports but thought i would give him a chance but no he did same thing.
Everybody works different some will take chance a booking with bad reports and other women will mostly avoid a lot of men that call with reports.
The reports are a guide for the user to make a decision to bother or not to bother.
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Hi,
Why doesn't AW promote or advertise Client eye App on their site (Client Eye is a list of timewasters ,their crimes telephone numbers )
I messaged them but they never replied , i have found client eye to be very useful
Vivastreet are very good at promoting it and linking it on their site
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Vivastreet would promote the opening of an envelope if they thought it would get more people paying for ads.
I have no idea about Adultwork and I don't know why you think anybody here will be able to answer for them, but if you want to promote this app on this forum, you do it in this thread.
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I keep getting texts offering free screening with Client Eye if l sign up for a Vivastreet account. Can somebody clarify as l already pay Vivastreet but did not get Client eye free lol 😂
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I keep getting texts offering free screening with Client Eye if l sign up for a Vivastreet account. Can somebody clarify as l already pay Vivastreet but did not get Client eye free lol 😂
If you look at your Vivastreet dashboard you should see a link to the online version of ClientEye, which is free to you if you are a vivastreet advertiser.
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If you look at your Vivastreet dashboard you should see a link to the online version of ClientEye, which is free to you if you are a vivastreet advertiser.
Does this interact with the calls and texts on your phone or is is a manual search ie you have to type in the phone number/email/username for each?
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Does this interact with the calls and texts on your phone or is is a manual search ie you have to type in the phone number/email/username for each?
It's a manual search function for number/email/username, with no interaction with your phone call or text logs.
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It's a manual search function for number/email/username, with no interaction with your phone call or text logs.
Thank you could be useful for anyone without a compatible phone.
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I have a advert but can't get free just restricted tried to search someone this morning he is reported but I can't see reason
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I have a advert but can't get free just restricted tried to search someone this morning he is reported but I can't see reason
Search via your vivastreet dashboard, not via the app
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Must be me I am on my computer for my viva street ad not mobile will try again thanks
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Hi CE,
how do I contact you directly to send some details as I don’t have twitter.
My work phone has died, and it’s not able to turn back on, so I’ve had to get a new one, but I currently have a subscription based on my old number/phone. Can this be transferred over to my new phone?
thanks
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Hi CE,
how do I contact you directly to send some details as I don’t have twitter.
My work phone has died, and it’s not able to turn back on, so I’ve had to get a new one, but I currently have a subscription based on my old number/phone. Can this be transferred over to my new phone?
thanks
Yes, follow the process to have the default restrictions removed, and when asked enter your subscription details so they can be transferred during the same process.
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I just want to say thank you for this site it’s saved me so many time wasting idiots ! X
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My ClientEye app is saying ‘ClientEye beta has expired’ and I can’t open the app. What can I do?! I have a subscription and iv been using it today
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My ClientEye app is saying ‘ClientEye beta has expired’ and I can’t open the app. What can I do?! I have a subscription and iv been using it today
Our iOS testflight version (beta) has expired as it has moved to production and is now available in the app store.
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Could someone inbox me and check a number please x
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Could someone inbox me and check a number please x
You should be able to do this yourself if you have had restrictions removed, anyone sharing report details with someone they do not know, and cannot guarantee is not a client, would be subject to the same rules regarding sharing report detail and could be blocked.
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Thought I was the only one blocking everyday , I really just thinking of packing in for good they at it constant.
I finding since the lockdowns literally half of my regs have all got 2 or more reports, some have 10. They've all gone potty. But they behave for me.
So I been booking people in with reports as long as its not for robbery or violence. Its hit and miss but most turn up fine.
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I finding since the lockdowns literally half of my regs have all got 2 or more reports, some have 10. They've all gone potty. But they behave for me.
So I been booking people in with reports as long as its not for robbery or violence. Its hit and miss but most turn up fine.
I wasn't using CE pre lockdown, I suspect CE use has mushroomed in the last 2 to 3 years. More users is likely to mean more reports.Only 1 of my regulars has a report and it's a harvest from post made way before covid in the warning section of this forum based on removal of last 2 digits. Contacted the poster but no longer has the full number so can't confirm if it is actually him.
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Hi I have client eye and paid on my work phone. Want to get a different work phone for viva street. Will I have to pay for client eye again? Thanks
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Hi I have client eye and paid on my work phone. Want to get a different work phone for viva street. Will I have to pay for client eye again? Thanks
Yes. I pay twice.
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Thanks I’m paying monthly but might be cheaper yearly. How can I cancel monthly I think it is to make a yearly payment
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Hi I have client eye and paid on my work phone. Want to get a different work phone for viva street. Will I have to pay for client eye again? Thanks
If you want to swap a subscription from one installation to another, this can be done by emailing us. Each installation (different device) needs its own subscription
Thanks I’m paying monthly but might be cheaper yearly. How can I cancel monthly I think it is to make a yearly payment
Email us and we can help you do that.
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What’s the e mail thanks
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What’s the e mail thanks
From your subscribed device, click the shield tick icon, and our email address is displayed on the webpage that loads.
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Hi there. I already have a subscription but l use different phones for different ads and l have a new phone and found client eye restricted. It said to access out of hours restriction removal would be to buy you a coffee which l have done but nothing yet.
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We are aware of a 3rd party software issue that is affecting our apps loading results and are currently looking into it
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Please note: We will be on holiday until the 19th of June 2023, during this time we will still be actively moderating the daily reports, monitoring the servers and supporting our subscribed users, however, we will not be handling new restriction removal requests or replying to emails, DM's or responding to any replies on this thread. 8) 8) 8)
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I've just had to reinstall the app but the verify page isn't loading on the client eye website. Help! How do I link the app to my paid-for subscription? Thanks
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Am unable to load on the phones l use clienteye+ on but the basic CE l have on one phone is working.
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Its not working for me either.
Edit, now back in fine
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I've just reinstalled the app but now only have 2 headings at the top of the screen for Contacts and Search (the app previously had headings for List, Contacts and SMS - does anyone know how I get that version back please as I'm tearing mt hair out scrolling through thousands of numbers every time?!
Thanks
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I've just had to reinstall the app but the verify page isn't loading on the client eye website. Help! How do I link the app to my paid-for subscription? Thanks
Its not working for me either.
Edit, now back in fine
Am unable to load on the phones l use clienteye+ on but the basic CE l have on one phone is working.
This was an error that was resolved within about 1hr
I've just reinstalled the app but now only have 2 headings at the top of the screen for Contacts and Search (the app previously had headings for List, Contacts and SMS - does anyone know how I get that version back please as I'm tearing mt hair out scrolling through thousands of numbers every time?!
Thanks
ClientEye+ has these features, ClientEye from the playstore does not (ClientEye+ is linked from within the ClientEye app via the settings cog icon)
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I'm getting a connection error and no information available on numbers?
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We are currently looking into an issue with our latest iOS app, that causes some searches to fail and return the user to the previous page without displaying the search results. If this happens to you, wait a few seconds before performing the same search, DO NOT re-install the app, as you will just compound the issue by your new installation being restricted by default.
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I would like to change to a new work phone. Android to iPhone. How can I transfer my client eye+ subscription to the other phone? Help me please.
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I would like to change to a new work phone. Android to iPhone. How can I transfer my client eye+ subscription to the other phone? Help me please.
Install ClientEye on your iPhone, then go through the restriction removal process via the shield tick icon on the report results pages. You can request restrictions be removed and any subscription transferred at the same time
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Hey girls,
The CE App doesn’t explain which symbol means what..!
What would beastiality come under..?
Can someone please explain each symbol for me please. x
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If you click on them it will tell you.
But there's time waster - the clock
Text pest- the mobile, no show - the eye crossed out, abusive the shaking fist and lastly other which is probably what I'd put yours down as :)
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Thank you! x
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Hey,
I am having trouble downloading client eye. When I try to download it it says it was made for an older version of android so my device is unsupported. Can anyone help? Thanks
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Hey,
I am having trouble downloading client eye. When I try to download it it says it was made for an older version of android so my device is unsupported. Can anyone help? Thanks
Playstore API requirements are always updating, we have an update in progress that targets the updated API requirements which hopefully will be released at the weekend.
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Thank you!
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Due to unforeseen circumstances, our normal restriction removal access (for new installations) will not be available again until 3rd October.
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We are aware of an issue with our Android apps that's affecting phones running v13 software, this is causing our app to crash when starting. We are working on an app update to fix this, no timescale as yet but will be as quick as is possible.
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Our app update is in the review stages with the Android playstore, when it's passed review (unsure of timeframe) the issue will be resolved for Android v13 software users
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Problems with client eye
Hi is anyone else on iPhone having problems using client eye?
I can’t use it at all, both of there apps keep crashing. My IOS is up todate & Iv done nothing different when from it was working until a few weeks ago when it went down hill.
Now it won’t work at all.
Any one else had a problem, any advice
Many thanks ✨✨✨✨
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Our app update is in the review stages with the Android playstore, when it's passed review (unsure of timeframe) the issue will be resolved for Android v13 software users
We are aware of an issue with our Android apps that's affecting phones running v13 software, this is causing our app to crash when starting. We are working on an app update to fix this, no timescale as yet but will be as quick as is possible.
I’m guessing this is the same for iPhone as well?
Iv emailed client eye as well & not got any answers there either
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I literally client eye every number before a booking now as I’ve never in 12 years had it where so many are rough . Smelly late and rude
The amount of men with multiple reports on is high !
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I changed my auto reply to say
I don’t reply to texts such as hi hello you working or other one word texts
I CE every single call
And depending on the reports and where I am I either ask for a deposit if the CE says it’s a no show / tw or I don’t see them
I also put in my texts 30 mins is cum once but it is a full 30 min appointment
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I changed my auto reply to say
I don’t reply to texts such as hi hello you working or other one word texts
I CE every single call
And depending on the reports and where I am I either ask for a deposit if the CE says it’s a no show / tw or I don’t see them
I also put in my texts 30 mins is cum once but it is a full 30 min appointment
Good for you as they don't read profiles or bother to book how we ask them to it's good putting it on a auto respond. Only thing missing is putting manners cost nothing on the end of it.
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Client Eye i notice most of my calls that come in, the actual report checker text mostly comes up when the call has ended so some with no reports i then need to call back. Is this quite common as it has been happening most of the time for ages?
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Client Eye i notice most of my calls that come in, the actual report checker text mostly comes up when the call has ended so some with no reports i then need to call back. Is this quite common as it has been happening most of the time for ages?
The Playstore has banned the live report checker feature that's still available in our older Android app for having features they now do not allow, so unfortunately we can't update these features. The delay is always connection-related, the speed of your isp at the time, and the current load on our servers.
We may in the future, move to a list of reported numbers stored locally in the device (as we do with iOS, coded so it cannot be freely accessed) but this is a long way down the line of things we have planned.
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Ok thanks for getting back and explaining it.
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this is a long way down the line of things we have planned.
Are there any interesting new features coming up? :)
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Hi how much do you rely or trust client eye ? I’ve always thought it was the best but I’ve recently had a very good paying and nice client. He told me he couldn’t never get through to me so I checked and I had him saved as ignore because he has 10 bad reports on this number on there. He called me and booked off a new sim. It’s really made me think about all the potential clients I ignore when they could be good. I’m not sure what to think now when I see reports
fully understood however its past behaviour probably that's caused them to be on there xx
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Are there any interesting new features coming up? :)
Our iOS app has always lagged behind our Android app in development, so we are currently updating our iOS app so it can also display in different languages.
French, Spanish, German, Italian, Swedish, Finnish, Portuguese, etc.
We are also looking into the possibility of giving users the option to report any issues that would be regarded as a crime, anonymously & directly to Crimestoppers or the police, after making a report to us.
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Our iOS app has always lagged behind our Android app in development, so we are currently updating our iOS app so it can also display in different languages.
French, Spanish, German, Italian, Swedish, Finnish, Portuguese, etc.
We are also looking into the possibility of giving users the option to report any issues that would be regarded as a crime, anonymously & directly to Crimestoppers or the police, after making a report to us.
That's fantastic, thank you for your work!
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That's fantastic, thank you for your work!
You know that National Ugly Mugs have put years of work into their anonymous reporting system including liaising with dedicated police who are trained to be more knowledgeable about sex work and proactive with crimes against sex workers, right?
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You know that National Ugly Mugs have put years of work into their anonymous reporting system including liaising with dedicated police who are trained to be more knowledgeable about sex work and proactive with crimes against sex workers, right?
Hmm... Yes, I got help from Ugly Mugs actually.
Do you think that this ClientEye feature would unnecessarily duplicate a service that already exist?
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Hmm... Yes, I got help from Ugly Mugs actually.
Do you think that this ClientEye feature would unnecessarily duplicate a service that already exist?
No i think people that know about NUM would go to them as well as you have someone to actually speak to that can speak to police on your behalf and help with advice. I had used NUM for when i got attacked and they were a great support to me and they were a go between for first contact with police. So their service is crucial. If CE puts in extra reporting system for a crime it's still a good thing to give that option as serious crime against sex workers needs more highlighting and to be reduced. If more women reported violence and sexual assault more men would get prosecuted.
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Valid point, EG!
For example, sometimes I see reports on CE that are not in English. Do they know that Ugly Mugs exist? Maybe not.
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No i think people that know about NUM would go to them as well as you have someone to actually speak to that can speak to police on your behalf and help with advice. I had used NUM for when i got attacked and they were a great support to me and they were a go between for first contact with police. So their service is crucial. If CE puts in extra reporting system for a crime it's still a good thing to give that option as serious crime against sex workers needs more highlighting and to be reduced. If more women reported violence and sexual assault more men would get prosecuted.
In my experience NUM are very good at providing support and guidance, limited in their contact hours but they have finite funds, are free, and as I.understand constantly apply for funding.
They are a human voice with experience of liaising with the police. They've reassured me many times including when a misguided police officer tried to recruit me using unfair methods. I was at the time very upset NUM confirmed this was the police and gave them useful feedback.
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I won't deal with enquiries by email for this reason. I want to check their reports out first. Depending on your phone you may be able to search Reports on username (I can on android but I know iOS not). Whenever anyone emails me 1st thing I do is search Reports on username. My autoresponse is 'I don't take enquiries by email, please phone' if they don't phone I don't engage with them.
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Hi, I downloaded clienteye, I have Samsung galaxy and l tried to remove the restrictions filling out the request but the page coming out get like some glitch and does not allow me to fill out details like work name and email address at the top, I only can fill out details like the phone number etc that's on below. So I can't complete the restriction request.
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I have an abusive client I would like to report on clienteye (I have already reported him on here, NUM and crimestoppers). I have stopped working because of him and therefore have no active adverts that I can use to verify my phone number. I already lost money because of him so I really do not want to pay for an advert just to report him. Is there any other way I can report him on client eye? Thank you and appreciate your service, just wish I had used it earlier!!
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Hi, I downloaded clienteye, I have Samsung galaxy and l tried to remove the restrictions filling out the request but the page coming out get like some glitch and does not allow me to fill out details like work name and email address at the top, I only can fill out details like the phone number etc that's on below. So I can't complete the restriction request.
Please start a support ticket from within our apps
I have an abusive client I would like to report on clienteye (I have already reported him on here, NUM and crimestoppers). I have stopped working because of him and therefore have no active adverts that I can use to verify my phone number. I already lost money because of him so I really do not want to pay for an advert just to report him. Is there any other way I can report him on client eye? Thank you and appreciate your service, just wish I had used it earlier!!
Please start a support ticket from within our apps
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A gentle reminder to our users. Please NEVER share reports with clients! Doing so can put other SW's in danger, and will result in your access to ClientEye being blocked. We ALWAYS find out.
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I have an abusive client I would like to report on clienteye (I have already reported him on here, NUM and crimestoppers). I have stopped working because of him and therefore have no active adverts that I can use to verify my phone number. I already lost money because of him so I really do not want to pay for an advert just to report him. Is there any other way I can report him on client eye? Thank you and appreciate your service, just wish I had used it earlier!!
You can report the client on ClientEye without the need for the default restrictions to be removed
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A gentle reminder to our users. Please NEVER share reports with clients! Doing so can put other SW's in danger, and will result in your access to ClientEye being blocked. We ALWAYS find out.
Is this still happening a lot where the women are showing customers/abusers the reports and reading them out?
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Is this still happening a lot where the women are showing customers/abusers the reports and reading them out?
We block 3-4 users per week for doing so
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I am finding that some CE reports are false.
I had a couple of other ladies say they have left deliberately bad reports on gents (one had lied about her nationality and the gent did not want to go through with the booking). She put him down as a rapist.
Another lady said a client was disgustingly, smelly, vile and fat. I decided to overlook the CE report and he turned out to be immaculately clean and lovely.
Is Client Eye going to be introducing a feature where if we’ve seen a client who is genuine (and he has a CE report) that we can inform you?
I just don’t think it’s fair.
Yes, CE can and does save us from some real nasties but I feel it’s getting abused and beginning to work against what it was set up for in the first place.
As usual, the minority are ruining it for clients and escorts alike.
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I am finding that some CE reports are false.
I had a couple of other ladies say they have left deliberately bad reports on gents (one had lied about her nationality and the gent did not want to go through with the booking). She put him down as a rapist.
Another lady said a client was disgustingly, smelly, vile and fat. I decided to overlook the CE report and he turned out to be immaculately clean and lovely.
Is Client Eye going to be introducing a feature where if we’ve seen a client who is genuine (and he has a CE report) that we can inform you?
I just don’t think it’s fair.
Yes, CE can and does save us from some real nasties but I feel it’s getting abused and beginning to work against what it was set up for in the first place.
As usual, the minority are ruining it for clients and escorts alike.
I've found that if a guy has one or two reports, and sounds nice, if I see them, they are usually ok. But I know what you mean - that's just not nice is it. Basically it's cheating sex workers out of seeing a guy who's probably OK and the poor bloke has done nothing wrong.
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I've found that if a guy has one or two reports, and sounds nice, if I see them, they are usually ok. But I know what you mean - that's just not nice is it. Basically it's cheating sex workers out of seeing a guy who's probably OK and the poor bloke has done nothing wrong.
I agree it's not good but i think many women are are ignoring some reports and still seeing clients anyway as so many clients have reports. Obviously if women have admitted to KK that they have made up terrible lies then that is different and best to report direct to CE but i would imagine CE would need proof to act.
I have a couple of guys that been really smelly if i was to tell them that they are disgusting and must make more of an effort when booking women and then report them to CE saying he smelt bad it's possible he might change his ways and next women be clean for so it's a hard one. As time goes on and hundreds or thousands of women use it, It's bound to get a small percentage of women lying but i don't see how CE can police this.
I just think a lot of women are reading between the lines and deciding which ones to take a chance on. If i see reports just saying " robber" or rapist" and no other details of what actually happened i find that strange.
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We moderate in different ways, for example, every user using our latest apps can flag a report to CE admin for us to take a look at, and we do. If we find something wrong we remove the report, if a user has made say 20 reports and they are all like "Rapist" or "Thief" etc and they are the only ones to report this, we may decide the user is making fake/false/embellished reports, and remove the reports & their access to CE. It's a balancing act
To give a further example, yesterday we had 2 reports made within 2 mins of each other, one said he arrived and tried to "haggle the price" the other said "Removed condom", both cannot be true at the same time (unless its the same user using 2 devices to report which is also not allowed). Things like this will always be looked at and the user's future reports will be monitored more closely.
We can never eliminate singular false/false reporting but we can do our best to discourage it and can act if a user is found doing so.
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I have found a few Reports local to me where due to the way they are written seem to be by the same person. They are all saying dangerous/not polite but they are clients I have seen on numerous occasions and they have been really nice guys. I know just because they are OK with me it doesn't mean they have been OK with other ladies but I struggle to belive that they are so different that they become a danger. It would be brilliant if the site was like a trip advisor rating thing for clients to give a more balanced view
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I have found a few Reports local to me where due to the way they are written seem to be by the same person. They are all saying dangerous/not polite but they are clients I have seen on numerous occasions and they have been really nice guys. I know just because they are OK with me it doesn't mean they have been OK with other ladies but I struggle to belive that they are so different that they become a danger. It would be brilliant if the site was like a trip advisor rating thing for clients to give a more balanced view
It is known that the same men can be different with different women, I learned this from forums used to report dangerous or difficult clients years before CE existed, and from speaking directly to other Escorts. NUM also told me the same.
Some punters/clients have been awful with me, but fine with others, vice versa and others awful with others. I feel really sad when someone who's been bad with me prior to me using CE has bad CE reports. I then add my experience stipulating the time scale explaining I didn't have CE at the time.
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We have considered a rating feature in our apps in the past, however, that could open them up to a different type of abuse of fake positive reporting.
It's safer if a nice client, with bad (false) reports, is refused an appointment, than the alternative of a a bad client, with good (false) reports getting one.
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We have considered a rating feature in our apps in the past, however, that could open them up to a different type of abuse of fake positive reporting.
It's safer if a nice client, with bad (false) reports, is refused an appointment, than the alternative of a a bad client, with good (false) reports getting one.
Totally agree with this. Too risky in my opinion. I think the system works great as it is but obviously we do need to take some reports maybe with a pinch of salt which i think a lot of women i know will take bookings if people got couple of reports saying timewaster or text pest as that is just a soft warning for us to make a decision on.
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I had a guy message me today that forced through a booking on AW which I don’t like but he did also email and text me and tell me that he had made the booking
He had 6 CE reports
Saying constant messages / texts no showed One escort pain in the ass with texts spread out over 3 years and to be fair he comes across as very keen / bit to full on always calls me love 😂 which I hate and I can totally see how he got these reports
But his AW reports 15 of them all excellent and nothing that makes me think they are warnings in disguise to other escorts 😂
He’s never been rude to me and he’s been trying to book me for around a year but the CE reports and his general over eager behavior puts me off
I told him I wanted a deposit and he offered bank transfer which I don’t like
So I said to call me on the day 1hr before if he wants to see me and I will see if he turns up
If he turns up or don’t turn up he won’t have wasted my day either way
So I will see
I will report back if he turns up 😂
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We moderate in different ways, for example, every user using our latest apps can flag a report to CE admin for us to take a look at, and we do. If we find something wrong we remove the report, if a user has made say 20 reports and they are all like "Rapist" or "Thief" etc and they are the only ones to report this, we may decide the user is making fake/false/embellished reports, and remove the reports & their access to CE. It's a balancing act
To give a further example, yesterday we had 2 reports made within 2 mins of each other, one said he arrived and tried to "haggle the price" the other said "Removed condom", both cannot be true at the same time (unless its the same user using 2 devices to report which is also not allowed). Things like this will always be looked at and the user's future reports will be monitored more closely.
We can never eliminate singular false/false reporting but we can do our best to discourage it and can act if a user is found doing so.
It’s not impossible. Not everybody writes reports the minute they happen. When l am busy l sometimes don’t get the report on till a few hours later and sometimes the next day by which time the same guy could have tried his shit with somebody else.
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The way l work is if they have CE reports for time wasting l see them on a first come first served basis or give them the option to pay by deposit. Over the last few days l have had a few of these guys actually show up and be really nice. I have also had many who l gave proper appointments to because they had no CEs. They were no shows and now have a CE.
It would be good if l was able to put a note on saying that one of those guys who had CEs for time wasting showed for me and was fine.
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It’s not impossible. Not everybody writes reports the minute they happen. When l am busy l sometimes don’t get the report on till a few hours later and sometimes the next day by which time the same guy could have tried his shit with somebody else.
Saying it you have a point because one of my old pads of timewasters and no shows and horrible men i remember when i found it as misplaced it ages back i went through it and put all the nasties on there a lot already had warnings. That was couple of years back but i suppose not everybody puts reports on when they happen even though most of the time i do now.
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It’s not impossible. Not everybody writes reports the minute they happen. When l am busy l sometimes don’t get the report on till a few hours later and sometimes the next day by which time the same guy could have tried his shit with somebody else.
We are aware this happens, users can report later on but we have other unspecified methods, to know if it is a user reporting late, or if it's a user using 2 devices to report. We never fully disclose all our administrating methods as some could use the info to avoid detection.
Needless to say, we discourage fake / false or duplicate reporting and can take action if found, or we believe it's happening.
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Is anyone else having trouble getting the app to open/load?
Edit : update, it is opening now but taking a few minutes to do so & a while to load
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I find it constantly glitches.
It has good days and bad days.
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I had a guy message me today that forced through a booking on AW which I don’t like but he did also email and text me and tell me that he had made the booking
He had 6 CE reports
Saying constant messages / texts no showed One escort pain in the ass with texts spread out over 3 years and to be fair he comes across as very keen / bit to full on always calls me love 😂 which I hate and I can totally see how he got these reports
But his AW reports 15 of them all excellent and nothing that makes me think they are warnings in disguise to other escorts 😂
He’s never been rude to me and he’s been trying to book me for around a year but the CE reports and his general over eager behavior puts me off
I told him I wanted a deposit and he offered bank transfer which I don’t like
So I said to call me on the day 1hr before if he wants to see me and I will see if he turns up
If he turns up or don’t turn up he won’t have wasted my day either way
So I will see
I will report back if he turns up 😂
Reporting back he didn’t call me 😂😂
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Can I retract a report? I’d reported someone for not turning up to the appointment - they did turn up in the end, albeit slightly late due to parking issues - I’m not seeing any contact or chat function on the app..
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Can I retract a report? I’d reported someone for not turning up to the appointment - they did turn up in the end, albeit slightly late due to parking issues - I’m not seeing any contact or chat function on the app..
It depends on which version of the app you have installed
Old iOS app user search for and report 07000111222 in the report description and enter the number to be removed.
With our latest iOS app, and All Android Apps, click on the report description text, a delete option will appear to you if you made the original report
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Can I retract a report? I’d reported someone for not turning up to the appointment - they did turn up in the end, albeit slightly late due to parking issues - I’m not seeing any contact or chat function on the app..
You can delete it yourself go into your own report, there's a bin icon to delete.
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You can delete it yourself go into your own report, there's a bin icon to delete.
I’m not sure if I have an older version because I don’t have that option
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It depends on which version of the app you have installed
Old iOS app user search for and report 07000111222 in the report description and enter the number to be removed.
With our latest iOS app, and All Android Apps, click on the report description text, a delete option will appear to you if you made the original report
I’ve entered the mobile number to make a report and I’ve entered the 07000... number as the report - my original report is still there though, does it take a while to be deleted?
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I’ve entered the mobile number to make a report and I’ve entered the 07000... number as the report - my original report is still there though, does it take a while to be deleted?
It can take up to 24hrs to manually remove, however, we have not had a removal request since the 18th October
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My friends and I agree that this platform is being abused.
Nearly every caller has a CE report and often for the most ridiculous things like ‘wouldn’t pay a deposit’ or ‘didn’t like the tone of his text’ or ‘asked for my address.’
I have several clients who have multiple CE reports and are absolutely lovely.
I believe that many working girls have vendettas against clients and ask their ‘friends’ to add reports if someone pisses then off.
I relied on my gut instinct before and will be using it more. There are multiple reports that are fabricated. Yes, there are some dangerous clients out there but I managed to avoid them through tight screening before CE was around.
Not everyone works the same way. Some give out their address, some don’t.
A platform that is being abused by the sheer stupidity of its users is no good to anyone.
CE, unless you can find a way for positive reporting this platform will be useless as every client in the UK will have a report.
This post most likely won’t be popular but I don’t care. It needs to be said.
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Yes it would be good if l was able to post that a client turned up for me if he has reports for being a no show.
Another example is a report of a guy with a cheesy cock posted back in 2019. I have seen him recently and no cheese 🧀 Maybe he has sorted his hygiene issues and it’s a shame l can’t report that he has.
Your platform is growing. Is it not maybe time to allow positive reporting on guys who have client eye reports?
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Yes it would be good if l was able to post that a client turned up for me if he has reports for being a no show.
Another example is a report of a guy with a cheesy cock posted back in 2019. I have seen him recently and no cheese 🧀 Maybe he has sorted his hygiene issues and it’s a shame l can’t report that he has.
Your platform is growing. Is it not maybe time to allow positive reporting on guys who have client eye reports?
I am concerned that some punters would or could persuade some women to write a good report for them.
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I am concerned that some punters would or could persuade some women to write a good report for them.
Am not suggesting giving good reports to everbody. Just to be able to post a positive report if he has reports.
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I am concerned that some punters would or could persuade some women to write a good report for them.
Punters shouldn’t even know CE exists and wouldn’t do if it wasn’t for some working girls ruining it.
(Mind you, it’s doing a good job ruining it for itself)
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I been thinking about this recently and noticed i earn far less than i used to and some of it could be because i avoid so many with reports.
I do think as so many have reports now days It's up to us to think well this does not look too serious i will give them a try.
I have seen many said refused deposit but as not much info given does it mean they have it wrote all over their profile and the guy is ignoring it and demanding they see them without a deposit. It's difficult to know but i think on that info a lot would ignore that if they only take cash and give them a chance?
I mean hasn't it got to the point where unless serious reports or a lot of reports on being a fantasist a lot of ladies are taking chances as would barely have any work if they ignored all Client Eye reports?
I do find 1 word reports like "thief" "Robbery" or "Rapist" useless as surely if something bad happened there would be more info to give us..it is too vague for something so serious.
I do report any man that does not read my profile and tries to get it cheaper resulting in me hanging up especially as i write no haggling. Some might think that is not worth reporting but i think it gives the woman a heads up they could do it with them.
I think it has got to the point that we now need to vet some of these calls have 2 or 3 reports that are not too bad.
The only worry i would have if a positive report was false and it resulted in someone having something bad happen but less serious reports could be fine but it would make Client Eyes admin probably a bit of a nightmare. It could be women arguing that someone is fine but not with them they were not.
Or maybe a long term established member of CE could give a positive if CE thinks there report history shows they seem trustworthy.
I am not sure what the solution is to be honest.
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I been thinking about this recently and noticed i earn far less than i used to and some of it could be because i avoid so many with reports.
I do think as so many have reports now days It's up to us to think well this does not look too serious i will give them a try.
I have seen many said refused deposit but as not much info given does it mean they have it wrote all over their profile and the guy is ignoring it and demanding they see them without a deposit. It's difficult to know but i think on that info a lot would ignore that if they only take cash and give them a chance?
I mean hasn't it got to the point where unless serious reports or a lot of reports on being a fantasist a lot of ladies are taking chances as would barely have any work if they ignored all Client Eye reports?
I do find 1 word reports like "thief" "Robbery" or "Rapist" useless as surely if something bad happened there would be more info to give us..it is too vague for something so serious.
I do report any man that does not read my profile and tries to get it cheaper resulting in me hanging up especially as i write no haggling. Some might think that is not worth reporting but i think it gives the woman a heads up they could do it with them.
I think it has got to the point that we now need to vet some of these calls have 2 or 3 reports that are not too bad.
The only worry i would have if a positive report was false and it resulted in someone having something bad happen but less serious reports could be fine but it would make Client Eyes admin probably a bit of a nightmare. It could be women arguing that someone is fine but not with them they were not.
Or maybe a long term established member of CE could give a positive if CE thinks there report history shows they seem trustworthy.
I am not sure what the solution is to be honest.
I only report deposit refusal if they have blatantly tried to get around it, applied pressure along with other out of order or TW behaviour. For example someone poured compliments at me, said they'd researched, knew my requirements, have old fashioned respect, spent time discussing a BDSM session then admitted they hoped I'd make an exception re the deposit. They also at the same time turned up on other platforms/social media. I am very upfront about deposits, giving the enquirer plenty of opportunity to decline and find someone else. Ifsomeone starts arguing about it it's likely I'll report them.
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I too see clients with reports who have turned out to be absolutely lovely men, from men with hygiene issues that they seem to have resolved to "look and go". I try to avoid the most dangerous reports, but why can't you add an update of, for example: November 2023, the client appeared clean.?
You can keep the old reports and allow perhaps one or two positive updates depending on the case. And from that point, each lady can make a decision with all the information about whether she will accept a reservation or not.
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And what about when positives start being abused as it 100% would be? I mean Clients are already finding out what's being said and when because it's well known girls do things for them...
Allowing positives can put people in danger.. its your choice if you see all the negatives and decide to go with a booking or not.
You can't say someone's reports aren't true or valid, you only know they didn't behave that way with just you.
I'd stop using Client eye if it allowed positives, waaay more likely to be abused.
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In the beginning, Client Eye was a great program. Today, unfortunately, it has only become a secondary, supplementary function. The reason for this is the girls who did not respect discretion and told the men. As a result, they often change their phone numbers. Something about exaggerated reports. Now there is almost no customer who does not have a report.
Positive feedback doesn't necessarily help either. After all, if it is possible to give a false negative, then it is also possible to give a false positive.But the biggest problem is play store restriction. Because of this, client eye does not show reports in real time. If someone calls me, I have to wait for them to finish the call.. Then I can enter the application and see if the caller has a report. Usually this is 1-2 minutes. After I call the customer back or send him an SMS, his interest is no longer relevant.
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I want to add that many men who contact me do not have reports, including many regulars so I have not yet experienced the 'every caller has a report scenario' many do not.
What I do find reassuring is when say I have experienced someone as difficult, rude etc, but their AW feedback is good - to then look again (or they contact me again) to see reports that others have found him difficult. This backs up my experience, I feel validated, I am also sad others have had to experience the same. One reason I doubt myself is because some enquirers as well as some people on a review site have said I am rude, I am sometimes rude but much of the time I am incredibly patient and this has been said to me by someone close to me who has heard my end of calls either from the next room or because I relate my frustration!
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Another example is a report of a guy with a cheesy cock posted back in 2019.
Seriously? If people are really posting warnings about stuff like this and the warnings are being allowed then the only ones destroying any shred of credibility this app ever had are it's users. And I don't mean the ones who told punters about it (about whom everybody is whinging while posting on their lengthy advertising thread which THEY started on a well known public internet forum).
We get moaned at here occasionally for not approving warnings which don't constitute any sort of threat to anybody. This sort of stupid shit, which should be dealt with in the room so the punter knows in no uncertain terms what the problem is and has the chance to put it right, is exactly the reason we don't.
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I have men that i have seen several times over 2 years with no reports. Sometimes it depends on the day as loads of calls all have reports and unless you take a few chances you have no work.
What has changed which was bound to happen is that 2 or 3 years ago CE did all the vetting for us, as soon as we see the report we do not answer. Now days we have to vet and speak to someone if they got 2 or 3 reports for non serious things and see what we think. There is timewasters and no shows that turn up occassionly but other times do not turn up i seen that with a few that turned up for me but then became very unreliable.
I know some women have abused CE but lets still remember it's a great app and i am still grateful it exists especially for the dangerous reports or the fantasists callers who have like 15 reports which saves me even speaking to those freaks and having them not turn up.
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Now days we have to vet and speak to someone if they got 2 or 3 reports for non serious things and see what we think.
But that is our JOB. Nobody should be doing 'all the vetting' for us; the above is basically exactly how people used to talk about AW feedback.
Nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. If a punter turns up at mine filthy and stinking, I have the option to get him washed and clean to an acceptable level or ask him to leave. I don't expect a heads up about it beforehand because how he was previously is irrelevant, and more importantly it doesn't affect the situation at all when he's standing in my flat.
The news that some women are now earning less thanks to this app boils my piss, tbh. There are people posting on this thread who don't have the benefit that years of screening experience brings, and the idea that they'll miss out on cash they might desperately need because they're under the mistaken belief that their instincts aren't enough is appalling.
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Seriously? If people are really posting warnings about stuff like this and the warnings are being allowed then the only ones destroying any shred of credibility this app ever had are it's users. And I don't mean the ones who told punters about it (about whom everybody is whinging while posting on their lengthy advertising thread which THEY started on a well known public internet forum).
We get moaned at here occasionally for not approving warnings which don't constitute any sort of threat to anybody. This sort of stupid shit, which should be dealt with in the room so the punter knows in no uncertain terms what the problem is and has the chance to put it right, is exactly the reason we don't.
I know what you mean but i have had a couple of smelly nightmares before that do deserve a warning one was shit all around his arse all over the sheets and all over the towels and it was very bad, this ruined my next booking as could not see them and another guy had the worst crusty cheese i ever seen in my life it was like a whole tub of cottage cheese had been put down there and he was trying to say it was normal.
But to be honest it is very rare to see reports on CE for bad smells i only seen maybe 2 or 3 in 3 years.
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Seriously? If people are really posting warnings about stuff like this and the warnings are being allowed then the only ones destroying any shred of credibility this app ever had are it's users. And I don't mean the ones who told punters about it (about whom everybody is whinging while posting on their lengthy advertising thread which THEY started on a well known public internet forum).
We get moaned at here occasionally for not approving warnings which don't constitute any sort of threat to anybody. This sort of stupid shit, which should be dealt with in the room so the punter knows in no uncertain terms what the problem is and has the chance to put it right, is exactly the reason we don't.
I 100% agree with this. Gut instinct and screening are vital. CE has no credibility anymore. I’ll happily see the clients others don’t want to see like the lovely client I had this morning who works for the military and had a CE for being a junkie. Seriously!
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But that is our JOB. Nobody should be doing 'all the vetting' for us; the above is basically exactly how people used to talk about AW feedback.
Nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. If a punter turns up at mine filthy and stinking, I have the option to get him washed and clean to an acceptable level or ask him to leave. I don't expect a heads up about it beforehand because how he was previously is irrelevant, and more importantly it doesn't affect the situation at all when he's standing in my flat.
The news that some women are now earning less thanks to this app boils my piss, tbh. There are people posting on this thread who don't have the benefit that years of screening experience brings, and the idea that they'll miss out on cash they might desperately need because they're under the mistaken belief that their instincts aren't enough is appalling.
Absolutely. After 10 years in the business I don’t need an app to screen for me especially when it’s full of crap reports like cheesy cocks or ‘he gave me bad vibes.’ Even Look and Go’s are sometimes warranted as they visit ladies who are clearly not the same person in the picture. We know this happens.
NOTHING beats gut instinct or will ever replace it.
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I have received 3 clients through the application who had a look and go report with the reason that "he says I am not the girl in the photos.
Well, the 3 of them stayed and were lovely. It appears that the girls were not the women in the photos or that their photos were not accurate.
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We have read all the previous comments and waited a day before replying to ensure we answered as many points as possible
We will never allow positive reporting on ClientEye, no other reporting system does this, including Saafe or NUM, our reasons being already explained in regard to possible coercion, and the possibility of fake positive reports being made, which we believe are more dangerous to users than any fake negative reports could be.
We have never professed to be a replacement for a user's other screening methods, i.e. experience or gut feeling, and have always stated, that users should use their own judgment when reading reports.
We are not judge and jury when it comes to what a user believes to be report worthy, whilst a cheesy nob may not be report worthy to you, it may be report worthy to others, similarly reading a report of this nature may not affect your decision to see a client but for others it may. We are all about giving users as much information as possible regarding a client's past behavior. A cheesy nob from 2019 may not affect your decision to see a client but we guarantee, if you see the report, you will be looking for it if they visit.
To give some stats, we received about 14,000-15,000 reports a month, that's 400-500 reports a day, this is far far greater than any other reporting system, ranging from look and go, hygiene (cheesy nob), call/sms pest to being robbed, raped & attacked, we deliver 500,000 report notifications per month, of those notifications 62% return 0 reports, 16% return 1 report and 22% return 2 or more reports.
As to fake negative reports, every system will have genuine users who spoil it for others by exaggerating or making false claims, we try to weed these out as best we can, the issue is, we are not there when the issue happens so how can we know 100% know the truth. Saying "I have seen the client and he's not like that with me" means nothing, just because he is not like that with you does not mean he is not like that with others. A rapist is no less of a rapist because he never raped you.
We look for fake/false reporting every day, we look at a users past reports to see if they have a pattern of what could be seen as fake reporting, if you report being attacked 3 times a day 7 days a week for 3 months the chances are it will come to our attention and we will act upon it, we also have the ability for users to flag reports to us if they believe something is not right with a report and we have missed it, these too are looked at every day.
We know some replies may say "what about this" or "what about that" but it's very simple, If you find no value in using our apps then you have the choice not to, we are an aid, nothing more.
ClientEye
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But that is our JOB. Nobody should be doing 'all the vetting' for us; the above is basically exactly how people used to talk about AW feedback.
Nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. If a punter turns up at mine filthy and stinking, I have the option to get him washed and clean to an acceptable level or ask him to leave. I don't expect a heads up about it beforehand because how he was previously is irrelevant, and more importantly it doesn't affect the situation at all when he's standing in my flat.
The news that some women are now earning less thanks to this app boils my piss, tbh. There are people posting on this thread who don't have the benefit that years of screening experience brings, and the idea that they'll miss out on cash they might desperately need because they're under the mistaken belief that their instincts aren't enough is appalling.
I understand what you are saying but when i say don't need to vet when you see someone flash up with 15 plus reports sometimes even 30 plus reports that just likes to talk dirty about a fetish and never turns up to a booking when i see it knowing it's true as so many women reported him then i think great he does not even get to hear my voice and no time wasted on that prick so CE is great for that.
It has got to the point though that men with less reports and non serious one's i have to give a chance to to see if they will turn up to me. A lot of the women are now giving these reports a chance and sometimes it pays off and other times i see reports saying wished they listened to the 3 or 4 other reports.
Women that are not satisfied with the app have the choice not to use it, even though there is more flaws now with some women taking the piss, it is still very useful to me and other women i know but as it has become so big we have to take some reports with a pinch of salt. I have had to do this myself recently as i used to avoid all reports and that left me with some days less work but that is not the fault of CE as it's just a guide and they cannot know what reports are true or not.
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I understand what you are saying but when i say don't need to vet when you see someone flash up with 15 plus reports sometimes even 30 plus reports that just likes to talk dirty about a fetish and never turns up to a booking when i see it knowing it's true as so many women reported him then i think great he does not even get to hear my voice and no time wasted on that prick so CE is great for that.
Do you need a phone app to tell you that a man who wants explicit phone chat or sends dirty messages is a timewaster fantasist who won't turn up for bookings?
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This app is getting abused now ;D had someone today with a report that he punched the girl in the face and the police came and arrested him… he passed my vetting before I even looked at the number. Turned up and he was so sweet. I can see how someone may be frightened by that report, as it’s extreme and then lose out on a booking with someone who is perfectly fine to see. I take the reports with a pinch of salt, unless they have a large number of reports.
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This app is getting abused now ;D had someone today with a report that he punched the girl in the face and the police came and arrested him… he passed my vetting before I even looked at the number. Turned up and he was so sweet. I can see how someone may be frightened by that report, as it’s extreme and then lose out on a booking with someone who is perfectly fine to see. I take the reports with a pinch of salt, unless they have a large number of reports.
Was that this report "This man attempted to punch me in my face, I called police and he was arrested for assault." that you searched today? That was left by a verified user who has made over 150 reports since they started using the app 18 months ago, and has no previous indication of exaggerated reports
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Do you need a phone app to tell you that a man who wants explicit phone chat or sends dirty messages is a timewaster fantasist who won't turn up for bookings?
I just do not want to speak to those types full stop so for me it's perfect them not hearing my voice or wasting even 2 seconds or 1 minute of my time. There is men who have 20 reports for nothing suspicious but just doing fake bookings and not turning up so yet again i see the 20 reports and they do not get any of my time.
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This app is getting abused now ;D had someone today with a report that he punched the girl in the face and the police came and arrested him… he passed my vetting before I even looked at the number. Turned up and he was so sweet. I can see how someone may be frightened by that report, as it’s extreme and then lose out on a booking with someone who is perfectly fine to see. I take the reports with a pinch of salt, unless they have a large number of reports.
If anything is very suspicious go report it to CE and they can keep an eye on the user. You are braver than me any report like that i avoid like the plague.
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This app is getting abused now ;D had someone today with a report that he punched the girl in the face and the police came and arrested him… he passed my vetting before I even looked at the number. Turned up and he was so sweet. I can see how someone may be frightened by that report, as it’s extreme and then lose out on a booking with someone who is perfectly fine to see. I take the reports with a pinch of salt, unless they have a large number of reports.
I need to point out few years back i got attacked and robbed and it was violent it was reported to police and he went to prison for it. He had done the same to other women but also not robbed or attacked every woman he saw as one lady had no trouble off him and she put the money in a safe ( have no idea whether he decided not to because of the safe) but it is very possible some clients switch personalities from being sweet to then attacking. It's possible the lady could be telling the truth but none of us are in the room to know for sure.
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If anything is very suspicious go report it to CE and they can keep an eye on the user. You are braver than me any report like that i avoid like the plague.
I would usually avoid it. I just think some women can be spiteful or get pissed, say if someone walks out because they don’t look like their picture or maybe their time was wasted. I have regulars with a few reports - so I can’t really believe everything I read. Like you, I found myself with less bookings because I would rely on the app. This clients WhatsApp (where he contacted me) was picture of him with his wife and kids :o I just found it quite far fetched for the report to be true. If he’s willing to contact me with his face on there. You are right though, we’ll never know unless we were there.
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Was that this report "This man attempted to punch me in my face, I called police and he was arrested for assault." that you searched today? That was left by a verified user who has made over 150 reports since they started using the app 18 months ago, and has no previous indication of exaggerated reports
Yes it was
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I would usually avoid it. I just think some women can be spiteful or get pissed, say if someone walks out because they don’t look like their picture or maybe their time was wasted. I have regulars with a few reports - so I can’t really believe everything I read. Like you, I found myself with less bookings because I would rely on the app. This clients WhatsApp (where he contacted me) was picture of him with his wife and kids :o I just found it quite far fetched for the report to be true. If he’s willing to contact me with his face on there. You are right though, we’ll never know unless we were there.
Do you know it's his photo? Anyone can use any photo.
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Perhaps adding a second step to posting a report would help.
For example:
- Step 1: Posting a report
- Step 2: A notification pops out saying that it's a reminder that all the reports are monitored etc?
Then you have to click on the pop-up that you understand and confirm.
It would nudge the users to think twice before posting.
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Perhaps adding a second step to posting a report would help.
For example:
- Step 1: Posting a report
- Step 2: A notification pops out saying that it's a reminder that all the reports are monitored etc?
Then you have to click on the pop-up that you understand and confirm.
It would nudge the users to think twice before posting.
Please no! I have enough admin 😂
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I would usually avoid it. I just think some women can be spiteful or get pissed, say if someone walks out because they don’t look like their picture or maybe their time was wasted. I have regulars with a few reports - so I can’t really believe everything I read. Like you, I found myself with less bookings because I would rely on the app. This clients WhatsApp (where he contacted me) was picture of him with his wife and kids :o I just found it quite far fetched for the report to be true. If he’s willing to contact me with his face on there. You are right though, we’ll never know unless we were there.
I think with anything that has a lot of users it will.be abused by small amount. If someone says they were attacked when they were not is pretty poor form and shameful.
Another way to look at this maybe avoid the guys with huge amounts of reports as no way are lots of women all lying and any with 1 or up to 3 or 4 reports speak to them and see how they come across.
I do agree i was no doubt losing some work but since getting attacked i take things very serious now with my safety. I always did before though but i suppose been more careful than ever. I just took a booking where he had just 1 report for contacting someone for 2 years and never booking but he booked within half hour and arrived and he was polite and easy enough. So lets maybe look at CE as a helpful guide in some cases very helpful but i feel.sorry for CE because it's not their fault some members have taken advantage of the app. It is still a great app in my opinion for not answering to piss takers with many reports.
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Do you know it's his photo? Anyone can use any photo.
Yes it’s his photo. He turned up to the booking so I can confirm it was him.
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Please no! I have enough admin 😂
:D It's just one click!
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It’s interesting when we talk about escorts abusing the app because today there was a report on a guy that’s been calling me
3 reports all over the country exact same date /month
One for Chelmsford
One for Leeds
One for Sunderland
All for March 2023
They look like they have been all reported at the same time
All by verified escorts as it’s in bold black text ( is that correct )
All of these say similar stuff haggling text pest abusive avoid rude
Then a 8month gap
Then another report one for Oct 2023 for Chelmsford but not by a verified escort ( normal unhighlighted text )
This one just says dangerous & abusive
In his texts to me he wanted a fully naked blow & go or massage & bj
But didn’t push it when I said I don’t offer that
But he’s been constantly texting me trying to book
Looking at the report I would probably assume that the first three are possibly fake as they are all the same month and similar stuff
But it Who knows
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It’s interesting when we talk about escorts abusing the app because today there was a report on a guy that’s been calling me
3 reports all over the country exact same date /month
One for Chelmsford
One for Leeds
One for Sunderland
All for March 2023
They look like they have been all reported at the same time
All by verified escorts as it’s in bold black text ( is that correct )
All of these say similar stuff haggling text pest abusive avoid rude
Then a 8month gap
Then another report one for Oct 2023 for Chelmsford but not by a verified escort ( normal unhighlighted text )
This one just says dangerous & abusive
In his texts to me he wanted a fully naked blow & go or massage & bj
But didn’t push it when I said I don’t offer that
But he’s been constantly texting me trying to book
Looking at the report I would probably assume that the first three are possibly fake as they are all the same month and similar stuff
But it Who knows
But the reports don't give the day, only month and year. Is it possible he's been contacting several escorts in that month, behaved the same with them all? Some pester escorts all over the country, doesn't matter where he is, also some travel with work etc.
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It’s interesting when we talk about escorts abusing the app because today there was a report on a guy that’s been calling me
3 reports all over the country exact same date /month
One for Chelmsford
One for Leeds
One for Sunderland
All for March 2023
They look like they have been all reported at the same time
All by verified escorts as it’s in bold black text ( is that correct )
All of these say similar stuff haggling text pest abusive avoid rude
Then a 8month gap
Then another report one for Oct 2023 for Chelmsford but not by a verified escort ( normal unhighlighted text )
This one just says dangerous & abusive
In his texts to me he wanted a fully naked blow & go or massage & bj
But didn’t push it when I said I don’t offer that
But he’s been constantly texting me trying to book
Looking at the report I would probably assume that the first three are possibly fake as they are all the same month and similar stuff
But it Who knows
We know the exact time a report is made as all reports are timestamped on our databases, we do not display this in the app to better protect the original reporter.
One of the checks we do everyday, is checking for numbers that have been reported more than once on the same day and look more closely at these and remove any reports if we believe they are coordinated by comparing the report history of all the users.
Users also cannot report the same number twice from the same device, so these reports will be by 3 seperate users, at 3 different times.
We will never fully disclose all our report monitoring methods as clients would try to use the information to gain the system, but it takes up most of our working day.
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Additionally if the number you are referring too ends 5938, the reports where made on 17/03 21/03 35/03 & 21/10
If we can find the details you are referring too, without you mentioning any number, imagine what we can find when we are looking for fake/false reporting.
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25/03 correction for the previous post
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Additionally if the number you are referring too ends 5938, the reports where made on 17/03 21/03 35/03 & 21/10
If we can find the details you are referring too, without you mentioning any number, imagine what we can find when we are looking for fake/false reporting.
Thank you
To me it looked suspicious that they were all the same month but of course guys can contact lots of ladies
But I didn’t see him and wouldn’t have anyway with it without CE because of a few things he said in the texts
I’ve always been pretty good at screening over the years and never had a problem with punters
Plus I’m in a new area so I expect pretty much to get all the guys that the local ladies have blocked
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I do appreciate all the work that Client Eye puts in and, as they say, nobody is forced to use it. But this is why I don't use it. Back in the day when I started we had an offline version of Ugly Mugs (as I remember it was an inky black and white print with an artist's impression of the wrong 'un). These were VERY serious cases. Robbery, rape and in rare events murder. Because there were so few of them you didn't have many individuals to look out for so it was easy to commit them to memory and they were etched in your mind. It wasn't overwhelming, it was just the most important info there for you in black and white, ie, these are the people you NEED to look out for. Personally it served me well because I honed my instincts by talking to enquirers and getting a sense of who they were and whether I wanted to see them. Many, many people got short shrift but I would never have dreamed of reporting them anywhere. I feel that if someone has made 150 reports in 18 months they're either very unlucky or reporting absolute trivia. Dealing with timewasters is just part of the job in my opinion. I would rather just save their number as 'timewaster' than risk them changing their number because they've caught wind that numerous other ladies have reported them for not turning up or cancelling.
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I do appreciate all the work that Client Eye puts in and, as they say, nobody is forced to use it. But this is why I don't use it. Back in the day when I started we had an offline version of Ugly Mugs (as I remember it was an inky black and white print with an artist's impression of the wrong 'un). These were VERY serious cases. Robbery, rape and in rare events murder. Because there were so few of them you didn't have many individuals to look out for so it was easy to commit them to memory and they were etched in your mind. It wasn't overwhelming, it was just the most important info there for you in black and white, ie, these are the people you NEED to look out for. Personally it served me well because I honed my instincts by talking to enquirers and getting a sense of who they were and whether I wanted to see them. Many, many people got short shrift but I would never have dreamed of reporting them anywhere. I feel that if someone has made 150 reports in 18 months they're either very unlucky or reporting absolute trivia. Dealing with timewasters is just part of the job in my opinion. I would rather just save their number as 'timewaster' than risk them changing their number because they've caught wind that numerous other ladies have reported them for not turning up or cancelling.
I don't think CE is supposed to be mostly only really bad reports i think it was created to make our life a bit easier so we can avoid no shows that do it to many women and reporting people that haggle on price or take the piss in the booking. So these things are not serious but it helps us see a pattern if the men have done it several times then we just don't bother answering their call. It's very possible to build up a large reporting number if you reporting no shows, timewasters, anyone being rude on the phone or begging for it cheaper when my profile says do not haggle.
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I don't think CE is supposed to be mostly only really bad reports i think it was created to make our life a bit easier so we can avoid no shows that do it to many women and reporting people that haggle on price or take the piss in the booking. So these things are not serious but it helps us see a pattern if the men have done it several times then we just don't bother answering their call. It's very possible to build up a large reporting number if you reporting no shows, timewasters, anyone being rude on the phone or begging for it cheaper when my profile says do not haggle.
I do get that EG, I'm sure it's useful for people who value a second opinion before accepting a booking. It might be a generational thing (not aimed at you) but I find that the more 'processes' you have to follow, the more exhausted and overwhelmed I am. I'm also not used to cancelling and reporting people on the say so of complete strangers. Not to criticise anyone who likes this way of doing things. Horses for courses!
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I do get that EG, I'm sure it's useful for people who value a second opinion before accepting a booking. It might be a generational thing (not aimed at you) but I find that the more 'processes' you have to follow, the more exhausted and overwhelmed I am. I'm also not used to cancelling and reporting people on the say so of complete strangers. Not to criticise anyone who likes this way of doing things. Horses for courses!
Too true
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I have seen so many escorts advertising that they are reporting clients on Client Eye that it is now beyond a joke. Just as bad as the ones who put the hotel name!
It’s such a shame, CE as your intentions were good but can’t take into account utter ignorance and stupidity.
It’s back to basics for me, definitely. My gut is never wrong.
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I have seen so many escorts advertising that they are reporting clients on Client Eye that it is now beyond a joke. Just as bad as the ones who put the hotel name!
It’s such a shame, CE as your intentions were good but can’t take into account utter ignorance and stupidity.
It’s back to basics for me, definitely. My gut is never wrong.
I liken it to SatNav. If can be useful if you use it wisely but it can also lead you into a desert of a ditch. Gut feeling is priceless.
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I have seen so many escorts advertising that they are reporting clients on Client Eye that it is now beyond a joke. Just as bad as the ones who put the hotel name!
It’s such a shame, CE as your intentions were good but can’t take into account utter ignorance and stupidity.
It’s back to basics for me, definitely. My gut is never wrong.
I think if escorts are advertising that they are reporting clients to CE then they shouldn't be able to use the app. CE aren't going to know what every SW is saying on their profiles though so it would need to be reported. I appreciate the random reports of, say, bad hygiene - it could be a new punter who will end up having numerous reports for the same thing. If I see someone has several reports for being a stink bomb then I'm not going to see them. He could just be having a smelly day though and is usually clean but the initial reporter isn't going to know this and if no one starts off with the first report, we'll be having guys showing up that we'd rather not see. Yes it's down to us to tell them to go and have a shower but I don't want the hassle and would rather not book them in. I agree some women reporting the "look and goes" could be advertising fake photos, but also, some guys are serial look and goers and treat it as a hobby so I'm not sure this can be monitored. I really like the app as it saves me a lot of time bothering to answer the phone if a guy has multiple reports. If they have just a couple of reports - depending on what the reports are - I'll talk to them and see if I like the sound of them or not.
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Just spotted an AW profile mentioning using Client Eye, is there a strategy to report these profiles?
Whilst I'd love to just call her myself, not sure it's the best course of action ;D
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Just spotted an AW profile mentioning using Client Eye, is there a strategy to report these profiles?
Whilst I'd love to just call her myself, not sure it's the best course of action ;D
You can email us or start a support ticket if you have that feature in your version of the app.
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For me the app works because I only use it as one part of my screening process, I have seen several clients with reports and will continue to do so.
My one and only frustration with the app is the length of a report.
We have 280 characters (i think) to make a report that is helpful to others, so when I see reports that are one or two words long they add nothing to help me decide.
I've seen,
Idiot (how is he an idiot, tell me, cos im an idiot at times) Timewaster, OK but how did he waste your time
Stupid man or similar, again explain ffs
No show, OK I get that but give me an idea what he was like in coms, did you speak or was it text etc
If I could make one improvement it would be that reports need to be a minimum length to encourage a user to write something meaningful
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For me the app works because I only use it as one part of my screening process, I have seen several clients with reports and will continue to do so.
My one and only frustration with the app is the length of a report.
We have 280 characters (i think) to make a report that is helpful to others, so when I see reports that are one or two words long they add nothing to help me decide.
I've seen,
Idiot (how is he an idiot, tell me, cos im an idiot at times) Timewaster, OK but how did he waste your time
Stupid man or similar, again explain ffs
No show, OK I get that but give me an idea what he was like in coms, did you speak or was it text etc
If I could make one improvement it would be that reports need to be a minimum length to encourage a user to write something meaningful
Also reports that say 'I knew he was weird so looked on here' or 'glad I looked on here'. It surely clogs up the system. Even if it's just a report about his MO eg phoned asked for an outcall, something didn't feel right gives a bit of info that might in some way help.
Someone I've found a bit entitled in contact has 'expected me to be ready at 5am/short notice' I then know he can be a bit ignorant 're how a sex worker works or pushy. I can then decide how to handle him. I would imagine he's been a bit of an arse about it for someone to have made the effort to report.
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Miss Wolf, I totally agree with this. I see the same type of reports and they aren't very helpful. I've seen quite a few lovely guys with two or three reports so I also use CE as part of my screening process. I don't bother answering if they have more than say four, depending on what the reports are about and I love the app.
Edited to reply to Mirror's post. Yes I see lots of those types of reports. "Glad I checked here", or "Same as the others" etc.
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Miss Wolf, I totally agree with this. I see the same type of reports and they aren't very helpful. I've seen quite a few lovely guys with two or three reports so I also use CE as part of my screening process. I don't bother answering if they have more than say four, depending on what the reports are about and I love the app.
Edited to reply to Mirror's post. Yes I see lots of those types of reports. "Glad I checked here", or "Same as the others" etc.
I love the app too i now use it as part of my screening mostly to avoid men who have multiple reports for being a fantasist or dangerous reports but agree with Miss Wolf as i have said previously one word reports are useless really and just Putting " Timewaster" means nothing. Does it mean he never booked you when enquiring or never turned up or just wanted to chat about sex with no intention of booking. I saw a report that just said " Retard" with no explanation and it is a guy i have seen 3 times and he never came across like that to me although he does ask for a roleplay fantasy for his booking.
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My clienteye app has stopped working, it no longer shows reports even though I have paid. Has anyone had the same problem?
Thanks
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For me the app works because I only use it as one part of my screening process, I have seen several clients with reports and will continue to do so.
My one and only frustration with the app is the length of a report.
We have 280 characters (i think) to make a report that is helpful to others, so when I see reports that are one or two words long they add nothing to help me decide.
I've seen,
Idiot (how is he an idiot, tell me, cos im an idiot at times) Timewaster, OK but how did he waste your time
Stupid man or similar, again explain ffs
No show, OK I get that but give me an idea what he was like in coms, did you speak or was it text etc
If I could make one improvement it would be that reports need to be a minimum length to encourage a user to write something meaningful
100% agree with this. The reporting allowance (for a better word) is too short to be useful.
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My clienteye app has stopped working, it no longer shows reports even though I have paid. Has anyone had the same problem?
Thanks
It could be that any subscription has failed or you have re-installed and now have a different (unsubscribed) installation ID. This cannot be solved via here, either email us or start a support ticket for help regarding this
100% agree with this. The reporting allowance (for a better word) is too short to be useful.
Originally we had 140 characters, we then increased this to 280. It will stay at 280, if we allowed unlimited characters someone would write an essay in a report description.
As to minimum characters, this is harder than you think (coding-wise), and we agree, having a report that just says "Timewaster" tells you nothing really, having 5 or 10 saying just "Timewaster" on the same number shows a pattern. ClientEye can never be perfect for every user, some will always want it different to suit their needs. It's worth noting though that less than 1% of reports are less than 20 characters (we have checked)
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I don’t have an android only iphone, would consider using my old android if this app is worth it. Is there now a cost to it?
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Hello! After nearly finishing my profile in AW, I have booked a day room hotel for next week. I have booked one that was recommended as workable on here.
I just wanted to ask what I should expect really, a new profile with no reviews. I am aware from warnings on this forum that the timewaster and predatory types are likely to flock to me. I will admit this scares me. Is there a way to handle it?
Will I likely not get any bookings because all the weirdos will come to mess with me?
If you book an appointment do you put the number in Client Eye after making the booking and then cancel if you find warnings against their number?
I would be so grateful for ANY advice AT ALL regarding my first I call day. I absolutely have to make this job work.
I hope you are all keeping busy,
Raven X
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Try not to over think it (weirdos messing with you)
Always trust your gut instinct and use client eye if it makes you feel safe. Keep it mind I have regular lovely clients that have warnings also so just assess things yourself and trust your gut.
Good luck x
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I always ask for a text message first outlining things like what time they want they appointment aw username if they have one etc (shows they’ve read my profile if they do this)
So it allows me to search client eye before I even contact them back
Sometimes there can be an alarming amount of reports and times there’s been 1/2 and I’ve seen the client and they’ve been perfectly fine
Just use your gut 9 times out of 10 it’s always right- I get a good sense of what someone’s like through calling them after the initial text and you can normally gauge what they are like
But inevitably you will get the time wasters and one’s who slip through
Good luck! Xx
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Posts moved to the appropriate thread for promotion of this app.
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Thank you so much Chanell_xo and Zaarah for your help!
I have actually put to text me with the details, but yes AW username is a good idea (if they have one). Im being dense of course I could check their number first when they text me before saying yes or no.
I was going to get them to call when I’m giving the directions and number of my room, but deal with texts before that.
Thank you for reminding me that some clients will be lovely. Xx
Sorry didn’t mean to put it in the wrong place Saafe Admin.
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Sorry didn’t mean to put it in the wrong place Saafe Admin.
It's fine - please do start a general thread as incall days are a general discussion subject and it would be a shame if this got buried in an advert :)
Promotion of this app needs to stay here, since we don't want to encourage the idea that it's a necessary or important part of working (on an incall day or anything else).
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Thank you Amy, yes I was thinking of doing that. I know they’ll be something I’ve missed despite all the fantastic tips I have read on here!
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Has anyone noticed that if they search their good clients on the App they have loads of reports - whilst clients that are time / wasters have hardly any…..
Are girls falsely reporting decent clients in order to keep business….. We know already know clients see many girls….. but the app should be used as a place of trust! We should be able to trust eachother more than clients in this game!
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Has anyone noticed that if they search their good clients on the App they have loads of reports - whilst clients that are time / wasters have hardly any…..
Are girls falsely reporting decent clients in order to keep business….. We know already know clients see many girls….. but the app should be used as a place of trust! We should be able to trust eachother more than clients in this game!
If a client has lots of reports, these will have come from different users at different times, as our apps do not allow users to report the same client twice and we look for duplicate reporting all day every day. If reports were left by a coordinated group of users this is also looked at all day every day and our system can identify patterns and does remove them. What is more likely is that your good client is a pain to others, but not to you.
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Most of my good clients don't have any reports but there is a couple that have 4 reports for being flakey, not showing, ghosting, cancelling too often.
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Has anyone noticed that if they search their good clients on the App they have loads of reports - whilst clients that are time / wasters have hardly any…..
Are girls falsely reporting decent clients in order to keep business….. We know already know clients see many girls….. but the app should be used as a place of trust! We should be able to trust eachother more than clients in this game!
Two things to bear in mind.... Just becos a client is nice to you doesn't mean he can't be a timewaster or a nasty piece of work.to another girl... I have a long term client who is so respectful but his number has awful reports.
Secondly, becos of some girls some lnasty clients are now aware of this app. So they change their aims regularly
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Hi everyone!
I saw an American version of 'Client eye' in form of screenshots on an anonymous instagram page of a SW based in the US.
I asked and I am still waiting for an answer, but was wondering if any of us here is familiar with it as it can be useful for the traveling americans
xoxo
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I've been reviewing numbers in the app, phone numbers I've had stored for long time.
Classified in many ways, but generally as=
Timewaster=
Those who call or text, are you around tomorrow? weekend? Are you available this afternoon? What time do you start? What time do you finish?. For a long time acting like this and they never make an appointment. Are you free this evening?. You ask him, at what time? and he answers that will let you later, and you don't hear from him again until next time.
I've had some of this style in storage for years.
And also the following ones.
No-show=
Those who make an appt, say they are on their way and never show up.
Nasty-malicious no-show=
Those who say they are on their way, or confirm at the stipulated time and still don't show up, or say there is some traffic and that they will arrive a little later, 15 minutes later, 30 minutes later, they leave you waiting and don't show up.
Address collector/no-show=
Those to whom you say I am right next to this supermarket, located on this street. They answer, oh yes, I know where it is, send me the postcode and I'll be there in half an hour, they never show. Or just after sending the address they tell you that something unforeseen came up.
The worst, those who say they are there and they are not, weirdos.
Fantasist/wanker=
The ones who say if they can do this or that, if you like this or that, who has it big or small and if there is a problem, all with a deep, decadent, sighing, or energetic voice, who have called several times, and you have them stored as such.
Stalkers=
Those who follow you through different cities, as if they had never spoken to you. With the typical question... can I have some details please?
Or that you don't want to see for some reason and they call from different phone numbers.
Texter=
Those who are dedicated to.. hi..hi baby..hi are you available?, are you free?, are you free now?, and whether you answer or not, it is their favorite pastime.
And they do it over and over again, over time and it never leads to an appt.
Look & go=
I have very few, maybe two over the years.
But there are men who really get turned on just by coming to look, trying to touch, and making some excuse afterwards. Wallet in the car, I'm very nervous, can I go to the bathroom? Ah, I thought you do such and such service.
Unreliable =
Those who, out of 10 appointments they make, show up 5 times. Sometimes they cancel ahead of time, other times they don't show up, or they make excuses, and since sometimes they have come, you think that maybe they can show up.
(I've given them some chances in the past, not anymore).
The ok ones=
Those who make an appointment, show up, are correct in every single way, if they cancel for some reason it is a specific case, but they keep the appointments, and if they are late even a few minutes they let you know and are respectful in every single way, and it is wonderful to deal with them.
Well, searching for these numbers in client eye, the result has been that the majority are reported.
Except the ok's ones!.
Conclusion, most of them have a pattern in their general way of acting.
So in my case, I can say that 98 percent of the reports are correct, that does not mean that some may end up being reported due to some disagreement with a client, but I think they will be exceptions.
Fortunately I have not had to deal with dangerous cases.
Sorry for the length of the post, but I wanted to specify that at least in my case it is true that many reports follow the same pattern.
Let's hope that our colleagues do not make the mistake of reporting nonsense, or telling them that they are being reported.
Because even if we have our gut to decide whether to agree to deal with them or not, it is very useful to know what kind of people we might be dealing with.
Best wishes to all.
Happy New Year to everyone, full of health, love and prosperity. <3
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I've been reviewing numbers in the app, phone numbers I've had stored for long time [...]
I recognise all of these, unreliables I recently started to clamp down on, and I don't even want to go to deposits on some of those because I feel so disrespected.
[giant unnecessary quote reduced]
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Is ClientEye team back from break? I've got a new handset and need to restore my purchase, there doesn't seem to be a way yo contact them except within the app
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Loads of nice regulars with various reports and actual time wasters with barely anyone reporting.
It’s a shame you cannot post a positive against a genuine client with various Timewaster reports.
I don’t really check it anymore due to this reason. My own judgment tends to be good enough.
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Loads of nice regulars with various reports and actual time wasters with barely anyone reporting.
It’s a shame you cannot post a positive against a genuine client with various Timewaster reports.
I don’t really check it anymore due to this reason. My own judgment tends to be good enough.
Whereas this week a one time client I have found difficult in comms & on social media outside of the 1 booking he attended (had cancelled a couple after paying a deposit using spurious reasons), acted as if I was being unreasonable when I told him I was blocking one of his SM accounts to stop him using it as a form of contact (there's a lot more to this story)
I didn't know if it was just me being unreasonable, late at night, tired etc.
Bear in mind this guy has a lot of good AW feedback.
I decided to look in CE.
Lots of reports from others saying he was difficult, lots of texts, unreliable, look and go with one woman. My gut was right. I actually now believe he has carried out some retaliatory behaviour but I don't have proof. Until I looked I thought perhaps I was being too harsh, but he must know what he is doing and I have added to the reports. Anyone looking at his AW wouldn't really find anything wrong, although I can see one clue but I have insight from dealings and CE.
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Is ClientEye team back from break? I've got a new handset and need to restore my purchase, there doesn't seem to be a way yo contact them except within the app
The best way to contact us is from within the app, as we don't post on Saafe or Twitter that often.
If our in-app auto reply does not answer your question we will follow up with a manual reply.
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It’s a shame you cannot post a positive against a genuine client with various Timewaster reports.
Our reasons for this have been explained many times throughout this thread.
We still have the option for users to flag a report to admin IF you believe a report is incorrect.
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Loads of nice regulars with various reports and actual time wasters with barely anyone reporting.
It’s a shame you cannot post a positive against a genuine client with various Timewaster reports.
I don’t really check it anymore due to this reason. My own judgment tends to be good enough.
It's still very useful for dangerous reports where someone has been attacked and for those creeps that have 10 plus reports and sometimes 50 reports for being a pervert fantasist that never turns up and pays. I use it mostly for these 2 reasons now. Guys with 2 or 3 reports for non serious stuff i sometimes take a chance on and sometimes it pays off and sometimes they no show me too as other reports say they do.
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The best way to contact us is from within the app, as we don't post on Saafe or Twitter that often.
If our in-app auto reply does not answer your question we will follow up with a manual reply.
Thank you, I did use the in-app form but didn't get a response, but it's all sorted now.
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How do I contact you through the app if I need to
speak to you?
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How do I contact you through the app if I need to
speak to you?
Via the support ticket icon if your version of the app has this feature
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I was contacted by someone with 104 reports. Is this the record?
Could you share what's the biggest amount of reports on one person?
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I was contacted by someone with 104 reports. Is this the record?
Could you share what's the biggest amount of reports on one person?
There's a guy in London who calls from a landline (a business) who I think has 120 reports!! I think he's one of those that gets off on being outed.
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We know of one Client with 191 reports
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We know of one Client with 191 reports
Blimey. Better not to take him even with a deposit.
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There's a guy in London who calls from a landline (a business) who I think has 120 reports!! I think he's one of those that gets off on being outed.
I think I've received his calls too.
Googling his number sounds like he has harassed non-sexworker women too.
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I think I've received his calls too.
Googling his number sounds like he has harassed non-sexworker women too.
Yep i had him call me a few times. What a sad sad individual.
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Blimey. Better not to take him even with a deposit.
Ha, more than six reports is my limit.
This man's hobby is harassment. Really sad to think of them looking up number after number, glowing with the feeling of all the women they're upsetting.
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I had a call from someone with I think 172 reports
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I have sent a message asking to upgrade and haven’t received a response.
Could you please advise? As I would prefer to have it than to not have it…
Thank you
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Had a report from an enquiry saying this. What on earth is a postcode collector for and is it a TW?
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Mostly someone who just collects addresses but not actually booking. Some want to know where you are but have no intentions of booking and maybe some just don't like the area or cannot get to it.
These types sometimes want exact street name making out they are booking but then cancel or ghost you.
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Book then cancel or no show after being given address or postcode.
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Waaay too much time on their hands some of these people!
Thanks guys.
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I get countless messages asking ‘postcode?’ I don’t even reply. God knows why they do it
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Some just want to know where each provider is, including knowing exactly the address and door number without any intention of booking. Psychos.
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I think sometimes they're nervous about being recognised so they want to make sure we're not near a family home or workplace. Other clients want to know if we're in a house or hotel because they have preferences either way.
Other times it could be police, or pimps keeping themselves informed about what's happening in their area.
Of course some are just weird but I think nerves plays a larger part in clients irritating behaviour than we sometimes give them credit for.
And others think nothing of us except for demanding what they want as quickly and easily as possible. Those lot can sod off.
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If I'm reading the reviews right and 'gentleman' = older man, 'energetic' = a tryer with a tiny cock, 'huge cock' = yes but no idea how to use it and 'sweet' = generally inoffensive but zero else to commend him, is there a coded word to indicate bad breath? Maybe we're missing a trick here?
Last night I was able to compare and contrast AW feedback with CE for a client I have seen 4 or 5 times finding him pushy/difficult at the start. I just thought it was me (some of it came across as just new to this, keen, and I'm sure others recognise that 'let's blame the provider for not being available' type). The CE actually mentions his good AW feedback, I'm now decoding it. The CE reports are more or less consistent with my experience of him.
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CE is now more popular in Belfast. Not one CE in other parts of Northern Ireland. But any time l see Irish ugly mug reports l report on CE that there are reports.
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Last night I was able to compare and contrast AW feedback with CE for a client I have seen 4 or 5 times finding him pushy/difficult at the start. I just thought it was me (some of it came across as just new to this, keen, and I'm sure others recognise that 'let's blame the provider for not being available' type). The CE actually mentions his good AW feedback, I'm now decoding it. The CE reports are more or less consistent with my experience of him.
When reporting anyone on CE who I can see has +ve AW feedback, I always include "...despite +ve AW feedback" or "...don't be fooled by +ve AW feedback" in my report.
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Apologies if this has been asked before, I understand that you can only report a number once. If I need to report somebody again with additional information, what’s the best way to do this?
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Apologies if this has been asked before, I understand that you can only report a number once. If I need to report somebody again with additional information, what’s the best way to do this?
I delete the original and write a new report.
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Update on CE in Northern Ireland.
Have noticed ladies in Belfast are using it though not enough.
In Derry very rarely.
In Fermanagh not at all.
What l am doing when l check every number is write a report in CE saying please check Irish ugly mugs.
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I delete the original and write a new report.
How do you delete a report, I presumed only CE could do that.
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How do you delete a report, I presumed only CE could do that.
Click on your report, then click on the bin icon.
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Click on your report, then click on the bin icon.
I think I must have an old version of the app, I better get in touch with CE. Thanks for the information Mirror much appreciated
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On one of my phones l have to search each number individually. I downloaded the wrong app. I realise l will have to pay again if l download the correct app. Will l have to do all the verification again if l do that or will it automatically work for me straight away?
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Our iOS app is currently unavailable for new installations, any current installs will continue to work whilst we work on an update for iOS.
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I want to use a text/call responder app for when I busy to reply to enquiries. Am I correct in thinking this will stop Client Eye from flagging reports instantly and ill have to search each number?
Which text/call apps is anyone using at the moment. I have a Samsung phone and not sure which one to download next as they all seem crap by reviews.
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How do I get the numbers to flag up straight away? I’m having to search each one
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How do I get the numbers to flag up straight away? I’m having to search each one
I search from the call and text list within the app, is that what you do?
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I search from the call and text list within the app, is that what you do?
No I have to search each number up individually to see the result :'(
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the app runs differently depending if you are on android or ios. Ios, you need to search individually and you can search through the call text list on android - the permissions for data use are different in the apple store and play store (that may not be right name, I'm an apple user) so they don't operate the same.
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No I have to search each number up individually to see the result :'(
Yes me too I'm on android phone