Not sure on this one though - he doesn't want any sort of sexual services (because he wouldn't pay for sex apparently) but because he was supposed to book me before and had to cancel he said he'll take me out for a meal and a couple of drinks and put me up in a hotel for the night.


He also said he'd get me a christmas card and pressie coz it will be in  the Christmas week.

He asked me what me overnight rates were and I said I could do 350 and he texted me a couple of hours later and said he would give me 200.

I haven't replied as of yet, but not quite sure what to do now.

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But if he's quibbling about this, he'll be redefining what 'no sex' means.

What do you mean?

Also, if I say yes, that makes me look desperate right?

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He may say that he won't pay for sex, but I would be amazed if sex is not what he is expecting. The number of men who will pay to take an escort out for a meal, give them some sort of present (has he any clue as to what you'd like, apart from cash?), arrange a hotel room and - presumably - expect to sleep in the same bed with you... and not expect some sort of sexual contact in return is rather low.

If you went ahead with it, I suspect you would not get much sleep, they'd be lots of 'accidental' touches, and he'd be pouting in the morning if absolutely nothing had happened.

Yes, it does. You could tell him for that much, you would skip the hotel / sleeping together bit, but the basic rule of thumb is that if they quibble about the money, they're prepared to push your other boundaries too.

This is one of the most ludicrous offers I have ever read and I totally agree with Cat. It doesnt even pay for 2 hours of our time never mind an over night.

If it was an outcall in a hotel you would expect to be paid more.

For me, it would be a resounding, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

Don't compromise yourself for this man or it will be a long slippery slope for your business.  If you let it happen once then you will probably do it again and that is when its time to give up.

Thinking about it, I should let someone barter me down like that. Like you say, he could also be expecting sex for the money as well.

Unfortunately, as the others have said too, some guys just get *really* excited about bargaining down an escort; I would guess it is about both dominance (woman withholds sex unless she gets paid ?x, man feels angry that she would dare not give him what he demands so man manipulates and bullies in order to gain the upper hand) and about not wanting to be "a client". So if he gets a massive discount, he gets to kid himself that you've given him that discount because he's super-special and super-sexy and you just want to bone him for free because you can't resist. Plus, he'll likely be very aroused at the idea that he's made you do something you wouldn't otherwise have done. He'll feel special and powerful. He'll probably get off more on the pushing of your boundaries than on any sort of normal sexual interaction, so any booking will start of badly and go rapidly even further downhill.

This type of client is literally the worst kind of person to be on a booking with. That's why we all avoid bargain-hunters as much as possible! I find that they do at least reveal their natures right at the start (because they generally struggle to treat women with respect and therefore see no point beating about the bush when it comes to making their silly demands) so they are easily avoided as long as you delete+block as soon as you see an attempt at getting a discount. You will never lose out or miss out on anything except an extended nightmare as these guys often have weak grips on reality and no qualms about bullying, harassing or stalking women. Meet a bargain-hunter once and it's often MONTHS (and a trip to the station to report him to the police!) before you can be rid of him; they get so excited by the process of manipulating women that when they have even a small success, they get very, very keen.

Anyway. All this is coming from someone who happily *offers* slightly reduced rates to clients who book in advance (following my preferred procedures in a respectful manner) or who like to spend a lot of time with me. So I'm not at all anti-discount (when done in a way that suits you and earns you more money in the long run) or against showing a great client how much you value him in whatever way you see fit. But a guy who approaches me out of the blue making idiotic rude demands? He'll just have to go and figure out how to suck his own willy, cos I won't be going near it with the proverbial.