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mysteriousGirl

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Working from a parlour after being indie?
« on: 07 March 2016, 11:52:19 pm »
It is with much regret I am contemplating going to work in a parlour, I have always been Indy since I began escorting. I used to work via AW alone and found it was really lucrative for me, all was well and good until I had to take down my page due to my now ex outing me. For the past year I have been relying on regular clients that I obtained when I was on adultwork and for the most part I have gotten by just fine.

It just so happens that my best paying regular has stopped booking and the others are so infrequent I'm finding it hard to survive off them alone. I tried to make another adultwork account today but unfortunately it's not possible to create an account without being verified these days like it was before, and I don't have a passport or drivers license to verify.

There are a handful of parlours in my area and although I know I won't be able to charge what I'm used to (?80 for half an hour or ?150 for the hour) I'm realising that I don't have many viable options at the moment.

Im seriously considering trying to get some work at one of these places until I've got myself a passport.

 Has anybody on here entered in to parlour work after being indi? If so, was it hard adjusting to the decrease in your rates?

What should I expect when it comes to working in these places? In regards to rates and the way they work.

How do they screen clients/keep you safe?

This has been a big lesson to me that regulars can never be relied upon long term!

Any and all input welcome x



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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #1 on: 08 March 2016, 12:34:07 am »
In parallel, why not try creating profiles or ads on other sites, making your own website, going on Twitter etc.?
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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #2 on: 08 March 2016, 12:56:37 am »
I tried Twitter before and unfortunately didn't get anywhere in terms of bookings

I signed up to UKadultzone and the only traffic I got from there was time waster calls. I'm not familiar with any other free or cheap places to place an ad.

In terms of making my own website, I would like one but when it comes to advertising and sharing banners around as part of advertising I'm clueless. I remember trying to get to grips with expanding my advertising back when I was on AW and didn't really get anywhere. I'm not the most tech savvy unfortunately, and I don't have much spare money at the moment to pump in to advertising and or paying for a website : (


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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #3 on: 08 March 2016, 06:15:56 am »
You may find parlour work good. It doesn?t hurt to try.

While you're doing that, you can learn more about how to advertise independently. Check out the "where to advertise" thread and the thread "working without aw."

I would struggle to get by without aw, as much as I hate it. I think that can vary by your location. But there are escorts who manage it. I think being in or near London helps.

Twitter won't get you bookings directly. It can sort of help generally with marketing if you have a website. Even having a website doesn't seem to lead to many bookings directly for many escorts. It's just a good way for me to augment my marketing.


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« Reply #4 on: 08 March 2016, 09:03:49 am »

Twitter won't get you bookings directly. It can sort of help generally with marketing if you have a website.

Really?  Is this the same for some of the other ladies?  I get quite a bit of work from Twitter but it does attract a fair few TWs.   

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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #5 on: 09 March 2016, 12:04:20 am »
I've worked privately and in brothels in Australia. As they're legal I assume they are quite different to the ones in the UK (I haven't worked in a parlour here yet).
I actually preferred parlour work to an extent: sociable, very safe, less hassle finding clients and no time wasters. I could leave the work at the end of my shift.
There was CCTV outside the parlour and in the lounge area but not the rooms. There was intercom in the rooms. There was a screen that showed us the clients as they came in through reception, so we could look at them beforehand, make sure it wasn't someone we knew, etc. I health checked all clients before the session commenced as this was the protocol of the places I worked. Also OWO was not expected, unlike it sometimes was with private clients (from what I've read this sounds similar to the UK).
Obviously there is a price cut but my experiences of Australian parlours were generally very good. And I'm hoping UK parlours will be similar (although I'm not expecting to make as much money).

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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #6 on: 09 March 2016, 12:06:52 am »

Twitter won't get you bookings directly. It can sort of help generally with marketing if you have a website.

Really?  Is this the same for some of the other ladies?  I get quite a bit of work from Twitter but it does attract a fair few TWs.

That's what I've heard from others - youre the first I've heard say it works!

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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #7 on: 09 March 2016, 11:16:49 am »
I think it totally depends on the parlour you choose to work in.  My best friend worked in several and although it was easy to get a job in one she complained a lot about

Not being able to not work when she had a period

Not being able to refuse clients

The parlour owners had a camera in the girls changing room, allegedly to ensure no ones taking drugs or stealing from other girls lockers

Clients waiting outside parlour or following home after shift

The greedy receptionists who expect large tips at the end of each shift or they will screw you over the next shift, and this is on top of the reception fee you pay per client

Getting monies for extra upfront because once they finished they not got enough or forgot their wallets

They lie big time about your description to clients and you get it in the neck from client as you are not as described

Most have full face pictures in reception areas so no chance of being discreet, if someone you know walks in

The ladies can be extremely mean and competitive, like smiling assassins

And the big one, only getting 20-30 per half hour client
 
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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #8 on: 09 March 2016, 12:08:55 pm »
I think it totally depends on the parlour you choose to work in.  My best friend worked in several and although it was easy to get a job in one she complained a lot about

Not being able to not work when she had a period

Not being able to refuse clients

The parlour owners had a camera in the girls changing room, allegedly to ensure no ones taking drugs or stealing from other girls lockers

Clients waiting outside parlour or following home after shift

The greedy receptionists who expect large tips at the end of each shift or they will screw you over the next shift, and this is on top of the reception fee you pay per client

Getting monies for extra upfront because once they finished they not got enough or forgot their wallets

They lie big time about your description to clients and you get it in the neck from client as you are not as described

Most have full face pictures in reception areas so no chance of being discreet, if someone you know walks in

The ladies can be extremely mean and competitive, like smiling assassins

And the big one, only getting 20-30 per half hour client
This is absolutely spot on!
I had a brief stint with parlour work about 2 years ago. Only lasted 2 days and i could never do it again unless I'm absolutely desperate and even then I'd rather go to an agency first.

In a nut shell, i felt dirty and gross by the end of day 1. It was a very busy day and i saw at least 20 clients. I made ?400 that day and i started at 11am, finished at 9pm. In escorting i only see 4/5 clients tops and make the same amount for doing less hours and less clients.
 
I honestly couldn't believe that after paying the reception fee i was sometimes having sex for ?20. It's pretty degrading to be honest. Not saying it's the same for everyone but that's how i felt.

The main guy who owned the parlour and was on reception was bitchy as fuck. I get on with most people but he was a nasty little shit! I felt constantly belittled by him when I was there.
Whenever anyone rang asking for descriptions for the girls, I'd be 1 extreme to the next. Im a size 12-14 and a 36E but he'd be on the phone like 'she's a size 8 with a 34F bust' or 'she's a perfect size 10 with a 36C bust'. Talk about 1 extreme to the next!

The room i worked from was so grubby. Sheets probably barely get washed and literally for most part of the day the clients were back to back. I felt like I was on a conveyor belt and it was the first time i actually felt like a piece of meat. I wasn't even allowed time in between to freshen up. God knows what the clients thought!

There was also just me and another woman on. Sorry to sound harsh and up myself cause I'm totally not but she was a bitter old hag. She barely spoke a word to me, she clearly couldn't stand the fact that i got the majority of the work that day.

Anyway, that's just my personal experience. Might be completely different for you :)
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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #9 on: 09 March 2016, 02:35:35 pm »
Totally agree with the 2 above posts!
I briefly worked in a couple of parlours when I was 18 before getting into a 5yr relationship (long break from working but currently indie on aw)
One of the parlours was very quiet, with maybe only 3-4girls working a day, I started because my pal was working there and it was a very relaxed attitude (with the staff, our clothing/lingerie, we were allowed to smoke out of a window...etc) but I didn't stay for long as it was too quiet and getting "picked" caused resentments with (some) other girls on really quiet days. Then of course, I had to pay the boss a fee for every client too, so the money was nowhere near what it is from escorting.
So I moved on to another sauna in my area that I'd heard had a great reputation.
On my first night- I wore the same as what I would've worn in the first place- boots, and a corset/basque-type set with stockings and suspenders from la senza that barely covered my bum... Walked into the lounge where there was about 10 other girls working and they all had proper dresses and heels on  :-\ ...OOPS!! The guy on the desk publicly shamed me in front of all the girls, ("this is not THAT type of place" he said?!) and made me go change into some of their spare heels (they had a big basket in the changing room full of them,must've been a common mistake) now feeling completely naked at this point amongst the other girls! Was shown around briefly, shown where to put dirty towels and get clean ones, was demonstrated by the desk man how to get rid of condoms down the toilet etc, and "screened" by the boss...  And then into the lounge I went. It was intimidating, sooo many beautiful women and I was the youngest and most inexperienced, I wasn't very confident on top of feeling extremely under-dressed!! Not many of the girls were friendly towards me, I met one other girl my age who I chatted to, but tbh it was sooo busy I didn't have much time to chat anyway. I worked a shift 4pm-10pm with maybe 2 short fag breaks, this place was strict, and the staff were very blunt/abrupt in how they spoke to me too. I must've seen around 8 clients that night and came home with around ?250 after paying the staff their cut too, which was grudged as they got to keep the door fee, and I felt I'd worked hard for that money (they had a set shift fee, rather than per client so that was better in a sense) and I was happy with that, but it was a much bigger work load and longer hours for less money and I got burned out really quick there. Staff were always on my case, telling me how to dress, wear my hair and make up, time keeping with clients etc (they had an intercom phone in the rooms that they buzzed at time up, then again when 5 mins over time) after a few clients, obviously my hair was sweaty and looked greasy to me so I put it in an up-do, to then be told my face was too skinny to wear my hair up! They also told girls they were too fat for certain outfits or made sure to let them know if they'd put on weight etc. It certainly wasn't a confidence booster anyway, and this place considered themselves "a classier establishment". At finishing time the small changing and locker rooms were jam-packed with girls- Really classy huh?!
I suppose it does have pros and cons though but I honestly can't imagine ever going back after being indie...
My friend was recently working in one and the staff attitude still sounds exactly the same, plus after agreeing she could only do part-time and the early shifts due to childcare, they soon started expecting her to do double shifts, more days etc. She did it when she could to keep them happy, but as soon as she started refusing or having to take a day off when the kids were ill and stuff (12 hr shifts 3 and 4 days in a row etc,she was barely seeing her kids!) - they sacked her. She moved elsewhere, which was quieter and was sometimes coming home with maybe ?20/30 on a bad day  :o and others going home with nothing sometimes!
She described her latest sauna stint "soul destroying" and became v unhappy in day to day life. I joined AW and she soon did too and never looked back, she could choose suitable hours around the kids, and had to work FAR less hours than before. I didn't last in parlours nearly as long as she did, I'm not good with people ordering me around and telling me what to do- it wasn't a positive experience for me.
But I suppose it totally depends on how well you take instruction (discipline lol) and what area you're in, and what your local parlours are like. It could be a good thing for yourself, but for me, I couldn't do it again xx

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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #10 on: 09 March 2016, 04:31:41 pm »
Very bad idea if you are used to being indie and making your own decisions I would say. I've never tried parlour work but I was an agency girl for years and it's not much different, if you want to hand someone else the reins for awhile I would suggest agency rather than parlour work.

A parlour will work you into the ground and take a huge percentage an agency will attempt to do the same for a smaller percentage but if you put your foot down and give THEM your parameters from the beginning it will be easier for you. Agencies only push you around if you let them in my experience.

The closest I've ever came to controlled incalls which is what parlour work is was the one incall I done for an agency at their premises, felt like a meat market and I hated being handed the cash after the booking too by the agency owner rather than the punter. Made me feel sick and dirty, I quit the next day and joined a different outcall agency.
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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #11 on: 09 March 2016, 05:02:02 pm »
You know you can verify on AW with a citizen card? i don't have a passport or driving licence either, so I paid ?15 for a citizen card and used that instead. AW recommended it to me when i emailed them crying about it after they threatened to shut me down lol.

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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #12 on: 09 March 2016, 10:59:32 pm »

Thanks for your replies ladies, they've definitely given me something to think about

From the moment I wrote the post I was already second guessing my decision, but after reading the replies I've had so far I'm pretty sure that this isn't a route I'll be taking now. Getting in to sex work was purely financially motivated, so the prospect of seeing a handful (or more) clients and coming home with a pittance doesn't bare thinking about to me.

I've never taken well to being told what to do, the thought of having that happen on a continual basis bothers me. One of the things I liked best about working independently was being in control of everything myself. Also The way I dress. The money I make. Being able to shut off when I liked. Those things were all important to me and still are.

I don't think I'm going to work in a parlour, I would love to get back on AW and pick up where I left off the last time I had a profile, it's just so gutting that I can't make an account without this damn verification requirement.

I need to get a passport but obviously it wont be an immediate thing.

Poppy I used a citizens card to verify my old account a couple of years ago, but I've since been told that they are no longer accepting this ID. Can I ask when you used yours to verify your account? I'm wondering whether it is at the discretion of the tech person you happen to deal with when making your enquiry? Hmm, I do hope so.. Perhaps I'll try again?

 Again. Thank you ladies, for the insight in to a side of the industry that I'm now convinced isn't for me.

Indie is the way I want to stay/be again. I just need to get back up there :)

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Re: Working from a parlour after being indie?
« Reply #13 on: 09 March 2016, 11:16:40 pm »
Can you not get a quick passport? I'd had an authenticity warning on my profile for a couple of months when I opened it and didn't have appropriate I.d, but I'd kept it going anyway because I knew I'd get it sorted asap and in the summer, me and my pal decided to go on a last minute holiday so I went and got a fast passport (renewal of a previous one I'd had, lost and expired) it took a week, was about ?100 so definitely worth all the money you'll make back very quickly I imagine once you've got it :) xx

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« Reply #14 on: 09 March 2016, 11:39:58 pm »

Unfortunately I couldn't get a fast passport as I've never had one before :(

I know, shocking for somebody in their early twenties lol. I've lived a very sheltered life it seems  ::)

Until being an escort that is. Lol.

I'm pretty sure I'm right in thinking when you apply for your first passport you have to go to one of a few offices in the UK for an interview? I'm in a small town in the north east, and I don't think there's an office too close to me. I don't drive either so that's another sticking point. I'm definitely going to start the process of applying though, irrespective of how long it takes.. It's definitely something I need to do x