Hi,

I'm glad to have found this forum and it has been very helpful! However mostly it seems to be guided towards the UK market, so I wonder if someone can give me some guidance towards working in the US? I am located in Belgium, and doing quite good here, but for new experiences and more work I'd be interested in touring the US, specifically NYC. I have been there a few times before, but always with one client from Belgium booking me for the whole stay there.

I am currently in the process of getting a company for my services registered and started, including a bank account without my name for receiving fees, and making credit card processing available on my website. Credit card processing I figured was a good way to take payments and deposits more easily than a bank transfer. I know of the issues of reporting a credit card transaction as fradulent afterwards, but am working on a solution.


Anyway, after all that yada yada, my main point is touring NYC! Eros I have figured is the best place for ads. Any other sites that are noteworthy?
I am of course worried about the involvement of LE though. What are some red flags for those? And how do you best screen US clients?
I am planning on accepting the payment electronically only, or at least having the majority of a booking paid by card/transfer, as I can't take more than 10k out of the country anyway. Do you think the clients would be wary of this system? Once I get my things up and running I will have the vat number of my company on the website, ssl secured card processing etc, so it will not look amateurish at all, but I wonder about clients feeling sussed about paying this way.

Also, any advice on which hotel is good? I'd like a nice place for myself, but also client friendly in the case of a possible incall.


So this turned out a bit long, but I would love to hear your experiences on touring in the us and general advice for it!

Thanks in advance

Hi xv5, and thanks for your insight. I probably should try to look in to the tips on NYC already posted on this forum a bit more in depth.

As for Belgian authorities and lax business checking, it is not that I explicitly list my company as prostitution, but it is also not too difficult to deduce the "meaning" of my business. It's completely legal here btw, and being that I am the only employee but with an employed assistant, it's completely legal.

And yess... The credit cards are quite an issue. The response I've gotten from my business advisors is taking a document needing a signature to a booking, making the payee acknowledge the credit card payment is not refundable, and getting 2 signatures on that thing, so by that time it's clear it's non refundable. And yes, leaving a paper trail for the client is not preferrable, but I plan to explain in the Q&A section of my website that it's truly quite difficuly for the US authorities to get the banking details of some random company in Belgium, so realistically that shouldn't be a problem, let alone prove something illegal happened, as my website doesn't mention anything about escorting or specific services offered.

Also, one of the main reasons I am interested in NYC, is that since it's quite difficult in the legality department, the prices are very high. 1000 to 1500 seems pretty normal, whereas in Belgium I am charging between 350-500 per hour.

I m also working in Holland where prostitution is legal and i got my own escorting company. When i have a cc payment i charge 5%extra and on the receipt i ask the client to give me his ID number and a signature , like that i m sure he will never cancel the payment
. American expres i do not accept as they can take the money back any time  even if i have a signature and ID number . Good luck

Well 750 per hour isn't 'average', it is high, but it's more realistic - I'm concerned you seem to be taking Eros as gospel though, especially as it's well known for bait and switch/fake ads. That said, not everybody wants to be busy, and fewer punters means less screening - longer bookings are more common there which I'm not keen on, but again, it's less prep.

Are you only putting one ad up for a tour which will cost you a fortune? Eros visiting ads last two weeks, so you'll need at least two and possibly three at the VIP rate - they're not cheap. Backpage can be crawling with LE and robbers but your main problem with it will be screening, as punters there tend to just ring expecting a booking there and then and I don't use it. Eros has lots of timewasters and fantasists who'll try to string you along without actually booking, and ploughing through them on your first trip will be a pain in the arse, but that's the same the first time you go anywhere.

In the five years I've been going, the toughest month by far was August as it's extremely hot (and July is worse) plus a lot of people leave the city. I'd definitely recommend leaving it until it cools off.

With my cynical hat on, I wonder how they decide who is a 'top escort'...

NYC is a place where you need to be very careful. I've worked there half of my life so I know what I'm talking about :-). Backpage is full of LE, but they also love to bust high end prossies from EROS too (the 750$ an hour ones). A typical NYPD sting operation is when they hire a room in a high end hotel (they used to do it from the plaza in 59th st for many years till they got converted into apartments) and now they're doing it from other hotels. Vice will start calling "high end" escorts from EROS guide asking for an outcall. The prossie/agency will call the hotel and verify his name/room number. Of course the hotel is working in conjunction with the police and will tell the girl what she wants to hear. So lady will arrive to the room, get recorded on camera and arrested. Then police will move on to call the next one. They usually arrest 20 prossies a day with this type of sting operations. So you need to be extra extra cautious when going to hotels. I only did outcalls to private homes because of this reason. There's no sting operations done from private homes.

So, what happens when they get arrested. Are touring prossies safer, since they're more likely to stamp out an entrenched local scene, or doesn't it work that way?
I've been thinking of touring NYC for a long time, but I suspect I'll not be allowed to enter the US again once I've been unlucky and got busted.

If (and it's if, not when ) you got sprung, you'd be deported and yes, it's unlucky you'd be allowed back in for a good number of years at least, although I don't know about never.

It's worth pointing out that if proper screening was being applied (getting references, screening info and so on rather than just ringing a hotel asking for Mr X in Room Y as we would here), the above scenario is extremely unlikely - there was a lot more activity last year around the time of the Superbowl but I was there the week after and nobody I saw mentioned being unduly concerned about anything. Then again, I don't do outcalls when I'm away, and I'm not claiming to be an expert.

I do know that neither I nor anybody I know who visits and screens properly has ever had any LE problems, although cracks can and do happen. I suspect a middle aged woman popping over to work quietly from a hotel for a few days is unlikely to be anywhere near the top of the NYPD's To Do list .

Quote from: sourgrapes on 08 May 2015, 10:57:20 am

So, what happens when they get arrested. Are touring prossies safer, since they're more likely to stamp out an entrenched local scene, or doesn't it work that way?
I've been thinking of touring NYC for a long time, but I suspect I'll not be allowed to enter the US again once I've been unlucky and got busted.

If (and it's if, not when ) you got sprung, you'd be deported and yes, it's unlucky you'd be allowed back in for a good number of years at least, although I don't know about never.

It's worth pointing out that if proper screening was being applied (getting references, screening info and so on rather than just ringing a hotel asking for Mr X in Room Y as we would here), the above scenario is extremely unlikely - there was a lot more activity last year around the time of the Superbowl but I was there the week after and nobody I saw mentioned being unduly concerned about anything. Then again, I don't do outcalls when I'm away, and I'm not claiming to be an expert.

I do know that neither I nor anybody I know who visits and screens properly has ever had any LE problems, although cracks can and do happen. I suspect a middle aged woman popping over to work quietly from a hotel for a few days is unlikely to be anywhere near the top of the NYPD's To Do list .

Hi Amy,
No you won't get deported when arrested for prostitution -absolutely not- because it's a "B class misdemeanor" which is too small crime (something compared to shop lifting, also a B misdemeanor). BUT you will spend 3 days in jail, then charged with "prostitution",then do one week of community service (usually cleaning the subway which is what they make all prossies do). Your prostitution charges will stay on your US criminal background for two years (after that they get "sealed" and dissapear unless you commit another crime). In that two year frame of time if you fill the ESTA form (the one you fill online before travelling to the US) your arrest  will "pop" up in their computers and your entry into the US denied.