Since England lost their match yesterday I had 3 bookings last night and so far nearly fully booked next week! Glad we didn't get through as business is back to normal xxx

They're not out yet.

My mistake Italy were beat so they are out

Quote from: ChrissieDavaar on 19 June 2014, 10:36:49 pm

Personally I think advertising services I don't do is just asking for trouble as it could lead to bad feedback or worse.

The enjoys list is not actually a list of services, although I do agree and would not suggest that you offer something that could be considered a service, like anal. But putting something like swinging is not actually something that you can offer in a 1-2-1 booking, I also have sex toys ticked, I don't actually enjoy using sex toys, if somebody asks which is not something that happens more than once a month I simply tell them I do not have any with me.

How much of a difference any of the above would make I am not sure, not a lot probably and you already had the AT / local escort features paid for which was my main points and should be more beneficial.

Sarah x x x

I think that's quite dishonest - you know the AW disclaimer about ladies selling time & companionship and anything else which happens is between 2 consenting adults, but we all know that we are selling sex and the enjoys list is essentially a list of offered services.
Yes, you are under no legal obligation to provide a service but if you advertise it and the client is paying you then there's a mutual expectation to provide the service unless there's a reason not to (e.g. him being unclean or asking for services which require prep like watersports without giving prior notice). If you tick toys then clients have every right to expect their fee to cover using toys!
Imagine going for a spa day and told your fee covers 3 treatments and use of pool, then you turn up and the pool is closed for the day and you can only have 2 treatments?

I think that's quite dishonest - you know the AW disclaimer about ladies selling time & companionship and anything else which happens is between 2 consenting adults, but we all know that we are selling sex and the enjoys list is essentially a list of offered services.
Yes, you are under no legal obligation to provide a service but if you advertise it and the client is paying you then there's a mutual expectation to provide the service unless there's a reason not to (e.g. him being unclean or asking for services which require prep like watersports without giving prior notice). If you tick toys then clients have every right to expect their fee to cover using toys!
Imagine going for a spa day and told your fee covers 3 treatments and use of pool, then you turn up and the pool is closed for the day and you can only have 2 treatments?

We all work in different ways and for me the clients have NO rights

Everything that you do is at your discretion, the punter knows that and many girls also charge extra for services so i am really confused at your logic on this. There are NO set rules about what you must do and who with and what you advertise on your enjoy list has nothing to do with what the guy should expect included in what he pays for.

At the end of the day you do what you feel comfortable with and should you upset a few guys then they will maybe write something about you on a forum / web site or the least they would do is not spend time with you again, so technically your own loss, although maybe you would not have got the first booking from the guy, so your actually in front.

The topic is about business being slow and for me if a bit of off hand marketing is a way of getting guys through the door then people that are finding it tough should maybe give it a go, but it is entirely up to them to make such a decision. maybe when I start getting complaints I may have a change of heart about what I do but I really do not feel having some innocuous extras ticked on my profile is the end of the world.

Sarah x x x

It is really quiet for me at the moment, i am really struggling. I have moved locations and some days i don't even have tw's... Not sure if it's the fact i can only work during normal office hours, my rates, or my profile. And the quieter it is, the more demotivated i feel... Argh, the week hasn't even started and i am freaking out!

Would anyone be willing to have a quick glance over my profile and give me some pointers or advise if i am doing anything wrong? I would really appreciate it as i am at my wits end, it's past lunchtime and not one call 

Quote from: chloe_ on 22 June 2014, 01:21:42 pm

I think that's quite dishonest - you know the AW disclaimer about ladies selling time & companionship and anything else which happens is between 2 consenting adults, but we all know that we are selling sex and the enjoys list is essentially a list of offered services.
Yes, you are under no legal obligation to provide a service but if you advertise it and the client is paying you then there's a mutual expectation to provide the service unless there's a reason not to (e.g. him being unclean or asking for services which require prep like watersports without giving prior notice). If you tick toys then clients have every right to expect their fee to cover using toys!
Imagine going for a spa day and told your fee covers 3 treatments and use of pool, then you turn up and the pool is closed for the day and you can only have 2 treatments?

We all work in different ways and for me the clients have NO rights

Everything that you do is at your discretion, the punter knows that and many girls also charge extra for services so i am really confused at your logic on this. There are NO set rules about what you must do and who with and what you advertise on your enjoy list has nothing to do with what the guy should expect included in what he pays for.

At the end of the day you do what you feel comfortable with and should you upset a few guys then they will maybe write something about you on a forum / web site or the least they would do is not spend time with you again, so technically your own loss, although maybe you would not have got the first booking from the guy, so your actually in front.

The topic is about business being slow and for me if a bit of off hand marketing is a way of getting guys through the door then people that are finding it tough should maybe give it a go, but it is entirely up to them to make such a decision. maybe when I start getting complaints I may have a change of heart about what I do but I really do not feel having some innocuous extras ticked on my profile is the end of the world.

Sarah x x x

I am aware that there is no legal obligation to provide services and everything is at discretion however intentionally advertising a service which you have no intention of providing is a completely different story from advertising a service and refusing for a genuine discretionary reason.
I don't understand the benefit in ripping off your clients, sure we can dress it up and call ourselves escorts, sell our time and companionship and all that but surely it's clear that the likes list = services provided. Punters don't care what we like, they care what we offer.
Building a client base of repeat clients/regs who'll give you good feedback (getting you more credibility and more clients) is better (more profitable and reliable money) than taking the money of someone who'll feel cheated and warn others off you, not come back and lose you more money in the long run. Sounds like you think very little of your clients.

I am aware that there is no legal obligation to provide services and everything is at discretion however intentionally advertising a service which you have no intention of providing is a completely different story from advertising a service and refusing for a genuine discretionary reason.

I think you are mistaking the Enjoys list for a service list, which as I pointed out before it is not, it is a mixture of things that we say we may enjoy, some are not even practical as being a service. I enjoy swinging and have that ticked as it is something that I enjoy. I would never go to a swingers club with a client but it is still something that I enjoy doing with my OH.

I gave my advice in good faith and believe that if people spice up their profiles with a little more interesting things on their enjoy list it may not look so bland and I also stated I was not sure it would actually increase bookings. As i often have said, we all work in different ways, I NEVER feel that I have the right to criticise how others operate. People can choose what advice they wish to take or leave.

But hey, the post is about if it is slow at the minute or not and for me it has not been, in fact quite the opposite, so maybe my carefree attitude is not as bad as other try and make out.

Sarah x x x

Quote from: chloe_ on 22 June 2014, 01:21:42 pm

I think that's quite dishonest - you know the AW disclaimer about ladies selling time & companionship and anything else which happens is between 2 consenting adults, but we all know that we are selling sex and the enjoys list is essentially a list of offered services.
Yes, you are under no legal obligation to provide a service but if you advertise it and the client is paying you then there's a mutual expectation to provide the service unless there's a reason not to (e.g. him being unclean or asking for services which require prep like watersports without giving prior notice). If you tick toys then clients have every right to expect their fee to cover using toys!
Imagine going for a spa day and told your fee covers 3 treatments and use of pool, then you turn up and the pool is closed for the day and you can only have 2 treatments?

We all work in different ways and for me the clients have NO rights

Everything that you do is at your discretion, the punter knows that and many girls also charge extra for services so i am really confused at your logic on this. There are NO set rules about what you must do and who with and what you advertise on your enjoy list has nothing to do with what the guy should expect included in what he pays for.

At the end of the day you do what you feel comfortable with and should you upset a few guys then they will maybe write something about you on a forum / web site or the least they would do is not spend time with you again, so technically your own loss, although maybe you would not have got the first booking from the guy, so your actually in front.

The topic is about business being slow and for me if a bit of off hand marketing is a way of getting guys through the door then people that are finding it tough should maybe give it a go, but it is entirely up to them to make such a decision. maybe when I start getting complaints I may have a change of heart about what I do but I really do not feel having some innocuous extras ticked on my profile is the end of the world.

Sarah x x x

Clients have no rights? Seriously?? These are your CUSTOMERS, of course they have rights, at the very least they should receive what your profile or website offers!

If reading punter-led forums have taught me anything, its that punters don't like to be lied to. Whether that's nationality, bait & switch, old photos, weight gain/loss, obvious age differences or offering services that are refused on the day, punters have to place their trust in what they see is on offer. It's the lying WGs that give us all a bad name, and forces the need for punting forums/reviews.