If you are paranoid about bodily fluids maybe whoring isn't for you.
You could always not shake hands, not kiss, wear a mask to avoid breathing in their germs, wear gloves when you touch them, avoid bodily contact of any kind so not have sex with them but I don't think there will be much of a market for that kind of service.

Well, I'm not referring to everything!

I'm talking about the very specific case of facials and CIM.
Since it seems that everyone in the forum thinks that bareback is unacceptable.
My question is what about facials since it can have almost all the risks as bareback (I just don't say all because there isn't enough studies about it to know exactly the percentage of transmission, because it's not 100%).
e.g.: Someone can have unprotected sex with someone with HIV and not get infected (the chances are slim, but possible).

That is my very specific (no generalizing) question. Not that I'm paranoid about bodily fluids, but I'm concern about my health and well being!

Given that there are umpteen threads about sti's and the pros and cons about offering whatever service on this forum (type in sti's or similar words into the search box at the top of the screen) do you think this is an appropriate post to add onto a lighthearted thread about the last booking we did?I've asked the mods to perhaps move this post somewhere more appropriate.

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Everyone - worker and client - has their own position on what risks are acceptable to them and it's entirely to be expected that what you think is ok differs from some other people's. That doesn't make your or their choices wrong (and any suggestion that they are from anyone will find people unable to post here for a while!)

For HIV, the risk of CIM is as near nil as you can get and might even be nil. Some people find that too risky, others don't. Either way, you're more likely to be hit by a car going for a checkup than to get HIV from CIM.

Someone can have unprotected sex with someone with HIV and not get infected (the chances are slim, but possible).

For being on the vaginal side of penis in vagina sex with someone who's HIV and hasn't been on treatment for at least six months, the chances that you won't be infected are about 998/1000 to 999/1000. Put another way, it's about a 0.1% to 0.2% chance that you will.

yes there is a small risk of contracting stis from a a facial but only if you take spunk in your eye!

I know that we are only at risk of HIV and other of the nastier infection if we get fluids in our eyes, I'm not attacking anyone, just want to know how other coup with this, that is ti!
I would imagine that if even you have your eye closed and when the client comes, if it goes directly to your eye, probably you will have somewhat of a risk even with your eyes closed, depending on the "force of the ejaculation" (no other better words for it).

Yes there is a risk of sti's with owo and cim but I would think most people on here will have done what you did and have educated themselves about sti's and made an informed choice as to what they feel they want to offer in terms of services and risks.

OWO doesn't worry me so much, since it is on my part to make sure I don't have any cuts, etc. So that is just on the provider for the most part.

Giving owo and cim is not the same as barebacking and neither is facials they are less risky (risky all the same but not as much as barebacking).

My intention was not to make a head to head comparison of facials with bareback, just to say that if spunk got in your eye you would have about the same chances of getting HIV that with bareback, sorry if I didn't expressed myself in the right way so make this come across.

(you kind of answered your own questions in your post didn't you?)

I don't think so, since I was asking for opinions and experiences.

For HIV, the risk of CIM is as near nil as you can get and might even be nil. Some people find that too risky, others don't. Either way, you're more likely to be hit by a car going for a checkup than to get HIV from CIM.

My main problem is with facials and not OWO, CIM or swallowing, like I said above I feel like that is something that we can do a lot to be safe on our part.
Facials on the other end I don't feel so safe about. And feel that prevention is not so much on my end.

The only risk from facials IMO is a chlamydial eye infection.

I copy pasted a document from the NSH saying that you can get Chlamydia, gonorrhoea, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, HIV and syphilis if body fluids have contact with the the membrane of the eye. So no, chamydia is not the only risk.


I'm only looking for experiences. Like I said I have no experience, it's hard to compare what I read to the real world, that's why I asked.
If I have a direct question is: For those of you that have/had offered facials, if the clients comes on the eye can the spunk go inside the eye?

Thank you for all the input.

The last comment about it going in the eye just cracked me up, my client just shot his load in his ear, I am still laughing now

I know that we are only at risk of HIV and other of the nastier infection if we get fluids in our eyes, I'm not attacking anyone, just want to know how other coup with this, that is ti!
I would imagine that if even you have your eye closed and when the client comes, if it goes directly to your eye, probably you will have somewhat of a risk even with your eyes closed, depending on the "force of the ejaculation" (no other better words for it).
OWO doesn't worry me so much, since it is on my part to make sure I don't have any cuts, etc. So that is just on the provider for the most part.
My intention was not to make a head to head comparison of facials with bareback, just to say that if spunk got in your eye you would have about the same chances of getting HIV that with bareback, sorry if I didn't expressed myself in the right way so make this come across.
I don't think so, since I was asking for opinions and experiences.
My main problem is with facials and not OWO, CIM or swallowing, like I said above I feel like that is something that we can do a lot to be safe on our part.
Facials on the other end I don't feel so safe about. And feel that prevention is not so much on my end.
I copy pasted a document from the NSH saying that you can get Chlamydia, gonorrhoea, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, HIV and syphilis if body fluids have contact with the the membrane of the eye. So no, chamydia is not the only risk.


I'm only looking for experiences. Like I said I have no experience, it's hard to compare what I read to the real world, that's why I asked.
If I have a direct question is: For those of you that have/had offered facials, if the clients comes on the eye can the spunk go inside the eye?

Thank you for all the input.

If you when you eventually begin to whore don't want to offer facials that's your business, I don't see the point in you (a non escort) coming here to educate the already educated.

If you when you eventually begin to whore don't want to offer facials that's your business, I don't see the point in you (a non escort) coming here to educate the already educated.

I know that I can/will only offer the services that I want to offer. I'm not coming here to educate anyone but MYSELF!

Facials and bareback do not carry the same risks at all

Not my intention to pass this idea, my intention was to say that with facials, if and only if you get spunk in your eye you have the same risk as bareback.

You got my experience and opinion with my post as I offer all 3 of those things.
Yes obviously if a client spunks in your eye then yes you will have spunk in your eye same as if you get an eyelash in your eye etc but it can't get into your eye from being on your eyelid!
It stings by the way if you get it on your eyeball,so wash it out asap (have accidently got caught in the eye twice in 6 years of working).
And no you aren't at risk of an sti if the client doesn't get it in your eye.I've never had a client be able to ejaculate that hard that his spunk forces itself under my eyelids.It's spunk,not battery acid it can't seep through your eyelid.You can position your face so that he ejaculates below your nose and you can also have a flannel or babywipe in your hand to wipe it away asap.

Thank you BibiofLeeds, always wondered about that. In my sex life it never happened to me, so I really didn't have any idea.
It's easy to feel scary while reading a paper like the one I quoted here from the NHS, but real life is not a pamphlet.

I know that I can/will only offer the services that I want to offer. I'm not coming here to educate anyone but MYSELF!
Not my intention to pass this idea, my intention was to say that with facials, if and only if you get spunk in your eye you have the same risk as bareback.
Thank you BibiofLeeds, always wondered about that. In my sex life it never happened to me, so I really didn't have any idea.
It's easy to feel scary while reading a paper like the one I quoted here from the NHS, but real life is not a pamphlet.

You seem to have already educated yourself, why are you getting arsey when the girls are just giving their opinions, if you dont want to do it dont if you do do. You clearly did your research, make your own decision and leave it at that