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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #30 on: 24 March 2018, 03:26:09 pm »
I only offer outcalls to hotels too, I'm based in South Yorkshire and offer an hour at ?150. Only offering outcalls means I'm less likely to get bookings and I usually get 1 per week, I am hoping this will increase more as I have been made redundant in my normal, civvy job this week and I am now available all day, every day.  I do camming on the side a few days a week and I can usually earn ?200 plus per week..

I'd your able too, stay at a hotel/apartment on days your free and take incalls from there, advertise the days you will be staying there a week or two beforehand, try and get some definite bookings in advance ... This may help.   Xx

I'm so very sorry to hear about your civie job. I can't imagine that happening to me. This really touched me, I really sorry. I hope you are okay?

I have considered the incall arrangement but I'll think about it again. I got some tips on another thread, so I know is worth considering.

Sending you virtual hugs. I hope business start picking up for you.

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #31 on: 24 March 2018, 03:49:29 pm »
Without wanting to bang on about the Sugarbaby side of it, from reading the OPs thoughts on that, if I?m completely honest it sounds like you are stuck in the Sugarbaby mentality, NOT a criticism but an observation.

As an escort you just cannot afford to do this, you have have a realistic rate, your own strict boundaries, including keeping to the booked time, and what services you provide, otherwise as Amy said you could well be looking at some nightmarish scenarios.

I understand you don?t want to go below a certain rate and want to attract a certain clientele, but you CANNOT ignore market forces, you may not think you are worth less than X amount but as you have found it can be pretty lonely out there sticking to your guns. 

I appreciate you have lowered your rates but most of us would agree they are still on the high side. There are plenty of escorts in London charging high rates who I know for a fact feel trapped by that, feel they cannot lower them (especially if they are on Twitter and are dependent on that crowd) but who are not making enough, and who take on agency or even brothel work on the side.

Amy?s advice is good.  Whilst there are some out there charging premium rates (say ?300+) you can bet your bottom dollar they didn?t start off like that.

I don?t mean to be harsh, just offering some honest advice.


No I like it harsh!! Haha...thank you. I like this forum because advices are candid and no sugar coating.

I appreciate your advice and you are certainly correct, I can't ignore market forces.

I know from my little experience in the industry now, reading this forum and doing other research that I have done everything I can to start getting work, except reduce my rate to 150. So I made this thread wondering whether there's was something else have missed or not doing, but from everyone's input so far, there's nothing, except my rate. And that's the market forces I'm ignoring.

Like I said in my previous posts, whether I will become a 150 hottie and have some good fun like you wonderful women or pack it in is a decision I'll have to make.

Thanks again.

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #32 on: 24 March 2018, 03:53:16 pm »

No I like it harsh!! Haha...thank you. I like this forum because advices are candid and no sugar coating.

I appreciate your advice and you are certainly correct, I can't ignore market forces.

I know from my little experience in the industry now, reading this forum and doing other research that I have done everything I can to start getting work, except reduce my rate to 150. So I made this thread wondering whether there's was something else have missed or not doing, but from everyone's input so far, there's nothing, except my rate. And that's the market forces I'm ignoring.

Like I said in my previous posts, whether I will become a 150 hottie and have some good fun like you wonderful women or pack it in is a decision I'll have to make.

Thanks again.

Give it a little time at ?250 and try and promote it heavily? Also whilst London is better than most places for outcalls,  is there absolutely no way you can book a hotel room for a day and promote this for incalls because this is another major factor.

I really do wish you luck at your new rate.

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #33 on: 24 March 2018, 03:54:34 pm »
Maybe being a sugar baby is better for you, or offer dinner dates so you can charge ?300 for 3 hours or something but only 1 hour in the bedroom.

This is more than 2p!!! Thank you!

I'll think about that idea. 🤗 :-*

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #34 on: 24 March 2018, 03:57:19 pm »
It's fine saying it's not worth it to you for less than ?250...but you may find its not going to be for you in that case.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. But I'll see.

Thanks for your advice. 🙂

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #35 on: 24 March 2018, 04:04:59 pm »
About timewasters..I get them all the time even with plenty of feedbacks and after 2 years escorting. I can smell them miles away now ;D and wont give them chance to mess me around like as when I was new. Its part of business and i learned how to deal with them without being angry.

Likewise! I smell them from far.....one one thing, if nothing else, I learned being a SB is spotting TW and I'm glad I have that skill now.

I have a standard message for them, if I have an incline to reply. Although I got few cleaver ones recently. But nonehas really wasted my time so far.

Thank you 🙂

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #36 on: 24 March 2018, 04:07:08 pm »
There's those who refuse to work for less that 500 an hour and there's those to refuse to work for less than 50 an hour. You don;t need to give anyone explanations. If you're going to make the same or less money escorting than you do at your actual job then i agree with you that escorting may not be worth it. I mean.. You can ask for advice here but expectations and business models are different for everyone posting here. What may not work for you might work for some lady operating in some town on the midlands, so take the "advice" with a pinch of salt... :-)

Couldn't agreed more. 🙂

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #37 on: 24 March 2018, 06:27:33 pm »
That's exactly what I'm thinking. But I'll see.

Thanks for your advice. 🙂

If you do decide to walk away do so with your head held high...you tried it and decided it wasn't for you. There's far from any shame in that....the media have everyone believing we spend half our time by the pool in the carribean in our gucci sandals and that money rains down on us....it isn't the case.

One other thing..I see you mention that 'so far it hasn't effected' your self esteem. Nobody should ever, ever be attaching their sense of self worth to how much a man is willing to pay them for sex. Period.

LondonEscort2018

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #38 on: 24 March 2018, 09:38:35 pm »
One other thing..I see you mention that 'so far it hasn't effected' your self esteem. Nobody should ever, ever be attaching their sense of self worth to how much a man is willing to pay them for sex. Period.

Definitely not!

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #39 on: 24 March 2018, 10:23:01 pm »
I actually think that 250 per hour for an incall in Central London is totally achievable and not some crazy money.
It takes time to build business as everyone says but you don't seem to be pressed with circumstances, have your job and steady income and most of all you're determined and motivated.

The OP is only doing outcalls, not incalls - I think the point a lot of people were trying to make was that every little thing we do which makes us available to fewer punters (whether that's high rates, limited hours or good old discrimination against various demographics) means that we'll wind up with ...fewer punters. Which is fine if you're starting with loads but not so fine if you're not.

I agree about the 250 for an outcall though; for the sort of market the OP is aiming for I think it's fine and far more realistic. As for the advice (and advice is what it is, so I'm not quite sure why one poster chose to put it in inverted commas) I think there's been lots of helpful stuff here for many people reading and it even reminded me that I ought to see if I can find the weird old C69 review I had in about 2008 :D

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #40 on: 24 March 2018, 10:32:50 pm »
paris, there's a market for the 500 an hour escort in central London, these are usually model looking young girls dressed to the 9's. And yes, they are busy (i personally know of  a few). I don't know the OP's business model or marketing so can't really elaborate, but market for the "high class escort" (or whatever posh name you want to insert) there is certainly one. they may not get 5 people a day, but 2 a week (sometimes more) that for sure.

however (to the oP): with limited hours due to a full time job and outcall only you're going to struggle girl   :P


I know that there is a market for ?500 per hour,  there is a market for just about everything and everytype in this business but it depends on how much they want to make overall .
 i would imagine it depends on varying factors such as if they do outcalls / incalls  and if they have limited hours

The escorts that I know personally that charge ?500 per hour will generally do outcalls throughout the night and often be available 24hrs and do outcalls in the early hours of the morning   

That's something I couldn't do I'm way to lazy and like my bed to much 😂

I don't think the OP would struggle at ?250 per hour though in London there are plenty that charge that and get work especially for outcalls
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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #41 on: 24 March 2018, 10:47:56 pm »
There's a market for every price range and type of service imo (a smaller one for sky high prices and some types but it is there if you can market to it). 250 seems totally reasonable to me but I also agree with most previous posters outcall only is tough especially if your not established.

OP when you say limited availability how limited are we talking? People keep asking your rates and ads but they sound all in order from what you say, I'm wondering if your availability is geared too much to them working around your schedule?  To some extent clients will fit around you but there is a limit to how flexible they will be, they have lives and careers too. I charge no where near 500 but i charge enough when in London BUT I get one outcall a month solely bc I'm horribly hard to book due to other commitments, large deposits and I loath outcalls. My money is from incalls ?r the rare weeks when I am more flexible on times and dates. Can you try a hotel? Or apartment? I know incalls are different and of your nor used to it intimidating but if your in London you could just get a hotel deal and not stay just take bookings there? Also do you have anyone to duo with to make up some feedback/reviews/followers?

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #42 on: 25 March 2018, 12:45:03 am »
There's a market for every price range and type of service imo (a smaller one for sky high prices and some types but it is there if you can market to it). 250 seems totally reasonable to me but I also agree with most previous posters outcall only is tough especially if your not established.

OP when you say limited availability how limited are we talking? People keep asking your rates and ads but they sound all in order from what you say, I'm wondering if your availability is geared too much to them working around your schedule?  To some extent clients will fit around you but there is a limit to how flexible they will be, they have lives and careers too. I charge no where near 500 but i charge enough when in London BUT I get one outcall a month solely bc I'm horribly hard to book due to other commitments, large deposits and I loath outcalls. My money is from incalls ?r the rare weeks when I am more flexible on times and dates. Can you try a hotel? Or apartment? I know incalls are different and of your nor used to it intimidating but if your in London you could just get a hotel deal and not stay just take bookings there? Also do you have anyone to duo with to make up some feedback/reviews/followers?

No I don't have anyone to duo with...well I could with my friend but she'll struggling for new clients too.

My time is a little flexible, but I'm mainly available in the evenings say from 6pm and I'm available all weekends. I'm flexible for travel and can be available during day if I have to. My schedule doesn't particularly affect business, I don't think. Most business men would book after working hours. I don't even state my available on ads and my AW calendar is free 24/7.

Indeed hotel/incall can be a little....not intimidating....maybe awkward? I'm kinda shy and a little nervous thinking about incalls...lol. But I'm seriously considering testing it out.

I do really just prefer outcalls. That's my market.

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. 🙂

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #43 on: 25 March 2018, 12:47:51 am »
Oh sorry, I should have read more carefully, it's even in the thread title  :-\

Haha....is okay. I believe your point remains valid.

Thanks for your kind reply. 🙂

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Re: New starter - marketing high-cost outcalls
« Reply #44 on: 25 March 2018, 12:58:26 am »



To conform with escorting pricing, I had to charge hourly and after researching similar lifestyle girls (not necessarily looks, but mainly background and SB turn escorts acquaintances) I settled on 500/hr ( the girls are charging up to twice that). But I agree, it was ambitious but they were doing well and I didn't realise it is a little different for women of colour (something I have come to admit only recently with enough evidence (please let not deraile the thread with this point))

So ego aside, hard business decision hat on, I repriced myself. But that's my answer to your question.

If I can't do well at 250, I might have to admit escorting is not for me after all. And that's fine. But offering my service at a price lower than am happy with is demotivating and takes away the sense of pride and achievement that entice me to the profession in the first place. It will becomes nothing more than any other jobs/profession which we do because it pays the bills.

I'm very passionate about becoming an escort and really want to make a success of it, hence my rate reduction and learning to be comfortable with much lower rate than anticipated, but I would no longer escorting if I can't command the minimum price I want.

Thanks for your reply Amy.  :)

I don't know of a single London escort charging ?500+ an hour and many of those charging near to that have a)  a civvy job b) several different personas at different rates c) have worked hard to build up regulars and a reputation and have increased rates over a number of years.

for me, it is just a job that pays the bills tbh. I could earn more in a full time civvy job but i wouldn't have the flexibility.

have you thought about increasing your minimum date length and not offering single hours?