SAAFE forum
General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: LondonEscort2018 on 23 March 2018, 10:32:30 pm
-
It is very quiet for me, I'm afraid. But hey, I get a lot of time wasters (TW). I guess not so quiet then! ;D
I am jealous of those getting work at all, more so getting new clients. Though I appreciate each situation is different in terms of meeting targets, breaking even or simply surviving.
It is now 3 months since I started escorting with the launch of my website. I have invested more time, efforts and money than I care to admit, and nothing has brought in the kill. :FF
I anticipated 3 months draught with a lot of hardwork and resource investment (consistent advertising on various directories, online social presence e.t.c), but when I got my first client in February I thought I wouldn't have to wait 3 months after all and remained optimistic. Well I was wrong. I haven't had any client since then. :(
AW yielded nothing but TW and so are all the other popular and recommended directories - from free ones to the likes of Eros and Slixa...very expensive ones.
I have grudgingly changed my rates twice - I started off at 500, reduced to 300 (got my 1st client) and now trying 250.
However I only do outcalls and based in London. I do have a full time job so I'm not in a desperate situation (and able to fund all the initial capital that seems to have gone down the drain now), but the dream is to make escort my main source of income and eventually go full-time. That dream seems farfetched right about now... lol.
Any advice, comments, observations, questions or magic tricks you have for this newbie would be more than welcome and appreciated.
...and please feel free to be candid with your advice/comments e.t.c especially those of you very experienced and have seen the industry evolved.
I will also appreciate comments from other newbies too please. What's your experience so far? How busy or not busy have you been?
Thank you.
-
I have grudgingly changed my rated twice - I started off at 500, reduce to 300 (got my 1st client) and now trying 250.
However I only do outcalls and based in London.I do have a full time job so I'm not in a desperate situation (and able to fund all the initial capital that seems to have down the drain now) but the dream is to make escort my main source of income and eventually go full-time. That dream seem farfetched right about now... lol.
Any advice, comments, observations, questions or magic tricks you have for this newbie would be more than welcome and appreciated.
Newbies get all the timewasters, and whilst they don't disappear the worst will pass when somebody newer pops up :).
There are plenty of threads about rates already and I won't derail this one, but how did you arrive at these figures? It's not a rhetorical question, it's a genuine interest in what made you actively decide to charge 2-3+ times what people - including many with solid reputations - do (assuming this is for an hour) and part of the reason I ask is because I suspect punters will be asking the same thing? Plus Rome wasn't built in a day - it takes time to establish a business and find what's right for you.
If you're not offering incalls and having to pay out extra for fancy hotels or a chi-chi incall flat, I'm assuming it's because you have limited hours available because of your full time job and want to maximise what you can get for them, but whilst there are punters out there who pay nosebleed rates there are far fewer of them and they need very good reasons to do so - a very niche look or service, say. Obviously London is more expensive in terms of living costs but I'd rather do four or five bookings at 150 than one at 300 or none at 500 and I know which keeps the bills paid :).
Steady away here as usual, to get back on topic. April is generally pretty shite for me though and I'm glad I'm away for a fair bit of it.
-
IT is very quiet for me, I'm afraid. But hey, I get a lot of time wasters (TW). I guess not so quiet then! ;D
I am jealous of those getting work at all, more so getting new clients. Though I appreciate each situation is different in terms of meeting targets, breaking even or simply surviving.
It now 3 months since I started escorting with the launch of my website. I have invested more time, efforts and money than I care to admit, and nothing has brought in the kill. :FF
I have grudgingly changed my rated twice - I started off at 500, reduce to 300 (got my 1st client) and now trying 250.
I think you've answered your own question, and Amy has aired most of my thoughts. Being outcall only does reduce business, but you're also competing against agencies and other indies. Unless you have some sort of USP, anything over 200ph is pretty optimistic, and to build up business and get some good feedback etc. 120-150 is probably more realistic.
My basic thoughts are a). make sure you're easily found online by marketing yourself in different ways/on different places, and b). if you do that and you're not getting any bookings you're either 1). too expensive, 2). saying something offputting in your profile or have bad pics, or 3). your booking process puts potential clients off (e.g. asking for a deposit, photo, ID etc.)
-
I can count on the fingers of one hand how many outcalls I get each year from directories like AW and backpage. My Central London outcalls come almost exclusively from eros.com. Clients are international business travellers, mostly North American (my favourite clients anyway), and are used to the higher rates, so ?300/hr is totally achievable.
If I were in your place, I would put my focus on that directory, write a damn good blurb (look at some of the profiles of NYC escorts, who know how to market to the American clientele), use realistic but flattering pictures, and make full use of the features (available now, bump, verify, VIP etc).
I believe real success in this profession comes from cultivating regulars, and that simply takes time to build. Keep your pecker up - the business is out there.
-
I agree about AW (I don't use Backpage) but I found Eros less and less useful in London and where it used to be one of the first tour ads I placed I don't bother with it at all there now although of course being based there is different. I do think the US punters mentioned are an acquired taste and one I never acquired, but maybe I just got the particularly annoying ones (or at least thoae unable to grasp that it isn't my lifes ambition to spend two hours a day deciphering waffly emails that cover everything conceivable except when they want to book and for bloody long :).
Is Captain 69 still going? That was another one where these types used to hang out.
-
Captain69? Yes it is still floating around and I remember when I started being told if you got a review on there it was like being elevated to stardom. The holy grail of reviews etc, which never impressed me but then nothing does. I have a couple of reviews on there but can't view them these days. Not sure if men still pay a fee to join there, time moves on and I doubt many if any at all of my current clients have even heard of it.
-
Newbies get all the timewasters, and whilst they don't disappear the worst will pass when somebody newer pops up :).
There are plenty of threads about rates already and I won't derail this one, but how did you arrive at these figures? It's not a rhetorical question, it's a genuine interest in what made you actively decide to charge 2-3+ times what people - including many with solid reputations - do (assuming this is for an hour) and part of the reason I ask is because I suspect punters will be asking the same thing? Plus Rome wasn't built in a day - it takes time to establish a business and find what's right for you.
If you're not offering incalls and having to pay out extra for fancy hotels or a chi-chi incall flat, I'm assuming it's because you have limited hours available because of your full time job and want to maximise what you can get for them, but whilst there are punters out there who pay nosebleed rates there are far fewer of them and they need very good reasons to do so - a very niche look or service, say. Obviously London is more expensive in terms of living costs but I'd rather do four or five bookings at 150 than one at 300 or none at 500 and I know which keeps the bills paid :).
Steady away here as usual, to get back on topic. April is generally pretty shite for me though and I'm glad I'm away for a fair bit of it.
I think generally rate setting comes down to individual's lifestyle, standard of living, ambitions/goals (business or personal), some level of ego/bride or perceive self worth, and most importantly comfort.
One of the main reasons for becoming an escort is the money. I see it as a very lucrative business that can also offer me the lifestyle I want. Before deciding on rate or even researched it, I was only happy to offer my service for 500. Not less. However it wasn't based on an hourly basis it was based on the idea of the minimum I am comfortable with or considered worth it for me personally to have sex for money. It is worth noting that I started out as a sugar baby. So I'm a very GFE focused provider and prefer longer dates. So 500 to me is more per date of up to 3 hours or 4 even. I really don't mind the length (so much) except not for overnight. I enjoyed being a SB, and becoming an escort is turning something I enjoy into a business.
To conform with escorting pricing, I had to charge hourly and after researching similar lifestyle girls (not necessarily looks, but mainly background and SB turn escorts acquaintances) I settled on 500/hr ( the girls are charging up to twice that). But I agree, it was ambitious but they were doing well and I didn't realise it is a little different for women of colour (something I have come to admit only recently with enough evidence (please let not deraile the thread with this point))
So ego aside, hard business decision hat on, I repriced myself. But that's my answer to your question.
If I can't do well at 250, I might have to admit escorting is not for me after all. And that's fine. But offering my service at a price lower than am happy with is demotivating and takes away the sense of pride and achievement that entice me to the profession in the first place. It will becomes nothing more than any other jobs/profession which we do because it pays the bills.
I'm very passionate about becoming an escort and really want to make a success of it, hence my rate reduction and learning to be comfortable with much lower rate than anticipated, but I would no longer escorting if I can't command the minimum price I want.
Thanks for your reply Amy. :)
-
Not sure if men still pay a fee to join there, time moves on and I doubt many if any at all of my current clients have even heard of it.
I doubt mine have either but that isn't the point - I've never been to Nicaragua, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist :).
It's not my market nor one I want so I wouldn't expect them to, whilst the poster asking seems to be aiming more for (what used to be that type) so she might want to put a listing on there if it's still possible to do so.
-
I think generally rate setting comes down to individual's lifestyle, standard of living, ambitions/goals (business or personal), some level of ego/bride or perceive self worth, and most importantly comfort.
[redacted, since we can all read]
Well yes, I'd say you're comparing apples and oranges and we do have a separate thread somewhere which covers this 'sugar' stuff in the Blather section. It's in that section because it's completely different from straightforward upfront prostitution which is what the rest of us here are talking about, and possibly why we might appear tonbe at cross purposes.
That said, don't believe everything your competition friends tell you - it's not that likely that anybody with that sort of ego is going to shout it from the rooftops if they're not actually that busy. Plus as you're finding out, having nobody prepared to pay you the rates you think you should get doesn't do much for your self worth once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads.
That aside, if you don't want to set boundaries in terms of timed bookings (and what about services?) and so on I think you're setting yourself up for an absolute nightmare and unless you're prepared to drop your expectations a bit and be realistic about your business you might be better sticking with what you know.
Also don't forget you can always start differently and rebrand yourself once you've got established and found your feet a bit! There are people here whi have sone just that, and you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs :D.
-
I think you've answered your own question, and Amy has aired most of my thoughts. Being outcall only does reduce business, but you're also competing against agencies and other indies. Unless you have some sort of USP, anything over 200ph is pretty optimistic, and to build up business and get some good feedback etc. 120-150 is probably more realistic.
My basic thoughts are a). make sure you're easily found online by marketing yourself in different ways/on different places, and b). if you do that and you're not getting any bookings you're either 1). too expensive, 2). saying something offputting in your profile or have bad pics, or 3). your booking process puts potential clients off (e.g. asking for a deposit, photo, ID etc.)
Thanks Kay
Indeed I have, I just wondered if there's something else am missing or could do. My website, bio and ad are good and pictures are great. Price reduced as much as I'm willing to go at this stage. Looks like is just a waiting game now.
I'm very realistic business wise. I think I'll give the latest rate some time and see what happens. I know it takes time for a newbie and the industry seems a little saturated and the economy is not at its best...perhaps not the best time to enter the industry.
-
And I've split this off, since it deserves it's own bit and will get buried otherwise :)
-
I was surprised at how I had somehow managed to start a new thread!!! ;D 😂😂😂 Thought I pressed the wrong button or something...phew!
Ah thank you Amy. :-*
-
You mention that your a woman of colour so I'm assuming black / Mixed race
The escorts that I know that charge between ?300 - ?500 plus all work abroad, Dubai Singapore Hong Kong USA Australia and parts of Europe. And even then they aren't always that busy . Sometimes doing only 1 booking every few days
I know of several black / mixed race escorts who do this but when they return to the uk to work they charge between ?150 -?250 per hour
They could not get the higher price in the uk as an independent escort
To be perfectly honest I think you will struggle at ?500 per hr regardless of your colour or ethnicity
And it's not particularly quiet either I've been of on holiday / off work the past 6 weeks but Jan and early Feb were really busy for myself and most of my escort friends were the same work wise and
I've been at home since I got back from holiday not working but I could have done a few bookings a day if I wanted to so the work is there if your reasonably priced and have a good profile, website
-
If you're not offering incalls and having to pay out extra for fancy hotels or a chi-chi incall flat, I'm assuming it's because you have limited hours available because of your full time job and want to maximise what you can get for them, but whilst there are punters out there who pay nosebleed rates there are far fewer of them and they need very good reasons to do so - a very niche look or service, say. Obviously London is more expensive in terms of living costs but I'd rather do four or five bookings at 150 than one at 300 or none at 500 and I know which keeps the bills paid :).
Actually limited time is not the reason for my rate (see previous reply), I don't intend to see more than 2 clients a day, maybe push to 3 if working full time and doing an incall, regardless of my rate. I just don't think I have the strength, nor the mental ability or desire to do more. So yes maximising my time, but not because is limited, but because I prefer longer dates to hourly ones and fewer clients to many. I appreciate not everyone enjoys or offer longer dates, but for me personally, that's the focus of my business & service. Hence I'll happily consider a 4hr date at 500 than say 150 for an hour booking.
For me personally, one client a day at 300 is good. Two is great! Few clients a week with a mix of hourly, overnight and dinner dates will be fantastic! :)
-
To be perfectly honest I think you will struggle at ?500 per hr regardless of your colour or ethnicity
paris, there's a market for the 500 an hour escort in central London, these are usually model looking young girls dressed to the 9's. And yes, they are busy (i personally know of a few). I don't know the OP's business model or marketing so can't really elaborate, but market for the "high class escort" (or whatever posh name you want to insert) there is certainly one. they may not get 5 people a day, but 2 a week (sometimes more) that for sure.
however (to the oP): with limited hours due to a full time job and outcall only you're going to struggle girl :P
-
I think regardless of what kind of ?class? you put yourself in, everyone needs to start somewhere and from humble beginnings you can rise to be something great. If you are not getting any bookings at the price you are at, lower them. Especially if you are completely new as your time will come when you can start to charge the prices you want but you need to work for it a little and sacrifice. I think that?s what will help you succeed if you plan on doing this long term.
I started out at ?90 for outcalls. I used to have a morning, afternoon and evening outcall 4 days a week throughout London without fail (for that prices, services and how far I traveled yes!!).
I?m now ?150hr for my incalls, I have enough now finally after this literal cold spell to carry on and this is after just 6 months. I worked and saved, invested into my business and went through the highs and lows of escorting and Im not finished yet. I?m now where I want to be for now and I am content with my prices and I am still busy because I?ve managed to show myself as a genuine lady who works hard and just wants to do well.
I try and just focus on what I am doing rather than worry too much about my competition. I think there is a great support network for ladies including here and on other social networking platforms and it?s personally given me more confidence to push myself further in my career. Take the advice that you feel works for you but for the sake of earning some money, giving you more confidence and experience I think the best advice is to lower a little so that you can at least get your foot in the door first xx
-
I can count on the fingers of one hand how many outcalls I get each year from directories like AW and backpage. My Central London outcalls come almost exclusively from eros.com. Clients are international business travellers, mostly North American (my favourite clients anyway), and are used to the higher rates, so ?300/hr is totally achievable.
If I were in your place, I would put my focus on that directory, write a damn good blurb (look at some of the profiles of NYC escorts, who know how to market to the American clientele), use realistic but flattering pictures, and make full use of the features (available now, bump, verify, VIP etc).
I believe real success in this profession comes from cultivating regulars, and that simply takes time to build. Keep your pecker up - the business is out there.
Thank you Sour grapes - interesting name...why that name? :)
I have no doubt that 300 is achievable, but I'm also realistic that I'm new to the market and it would take time to build up a level of clientele, especially at that rate, clients would want to wait for reviews or some confirmation of my service and personality. Hence lots of interest, just no bookings yet. I'm still hopeful. 🙂
You are absolutely right about international clients and business travellers. I enjoy and prefer them as clientele. My website/ads and bio speaks more to them, and I think my service would seem more suitable for them, i.e I prefer longer bookings and outcalls, and my rate are significantly discounted for longer bookings.
I have tried Ero for like 2 months before my profile was removed (for "legal reasons"....) but find it not very productive for London. It is mainly an American market but I think is good for exposure. But then, American clients are very review influenced and I don't have any....yet.
Unsurprisingly, my first client and genuine enquiries when I was 500 and 300 have been international business men. So I know my rate at 300 is definitely achievable, it just depends on individuals business model and goal.
-
Is Captain 69 still going? That was another one where these types used to hang out.
Haha....yes! I'm a member. Although is kinda dead now. I hear everyone saying they need to inject some life into it to make it fun again.
-
Captain69? Yes it is still floating around and I remember when I started being told if you got a review on there it was like being elevated to stardom. The holy grail of reviews etc, which never impressed me but then nothing does. I have a couple of reviews on there but can't view them these days. Not sure if men still pay a fee to join there, time moves on and I doubt many if any at all of my current clients have even heard of it.
Haha....That's why I joined C69! Thinking it would help, but honestly nothing. Not even sure I want any of the regular....Same for TER and P411 but my friend who also escort, and have glowing reviews on TER and C69 and a member of P411 is not doing any better than me since her return to business as an indie after 2 years break and previous work with agencies.
In fact the reason I made my post (turned this thread) is because she recently got a new glowing review on TER by one of her long term regulars, which we both hoped would open a flood gate of business, but disappointingly nothing.
I thought lack of reviews on these site was my main issue, now that myth is cracked...lol, I started wondering what else...lol
Note: My friend is a mix race/woman of colour girl, who took a break from escorting at ?600/hr with a reputable agency and returned this year as an indie at ?400/hr.
I thought if she's struggling to get new clients with her credentials, what chance does a newbie like me have? >:( Hence this thread.
-
I only offer outcalls to hotels too, I'm based in South Yorkshire and offer an hour at ?150. Only offering outcalls means I'm less likely to get bookings and I usually get 1 per week, I am hoping this will increase more as I have been made redundant in my normal, civvy job this week and I am now available all day, every day. I do camming on the side a few days a week and I can usually earn ?200 plus per week..
I'd your able too, stay at a hotel/apartment on days your free and take incalls from there, advertise the days you will be staying there a week or two beforehand, try and get some definite bookings in advance ... This may help. Xx
-
I doubt mine have either but that isn't the point - I've never been to Nicaragua, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist :).
It's not my market nor one I want so I wouldn't expect them to, whilst the poster asking seems to be aiming more for (what used to be that type) so she might want to put a listing on there if it's still possible to do so.
Yeah, I'm on C69 and getting some interests/traffic to my website but no bookings. I think you might be right on "what used to be the type" as since I joined in January, have seen few girls left....could just be my scary profile pic! 😂😂
One provider who just left or leaving at the end of her current subscription, did a somewhat angry rant post on how the members don't like to book "lower" rate girls and despite all the members comments (both men and women) that it wasn't the case, she concluded that she doesn't fit in with the forum and see no reason to keep her membership.
On the contrary, I feel they book and review more agency girls than indie. But I'm sure if I made a post about that, they'll say is not the case. But the evidence is there.
I do find that generally speaking London and perhaps UK clientele prefer agencies over indie. Maybe that's just the "high class" clientele? I don't know.
-
Well yes, I'd say you're comparing apples and oranges and we do have a separate thread somewhere which covers this 'sugar' stuff in the Blather section. It's in that section because it's completely different from straightforward upfront prostitution which is what the rest of us here are talking about, and possibly why we might appear tonbe at cross purposes.
That said, don't believe everything your competition friends tell you - it's not that likely that anybody with that sort of ego is going to shout it from the rooftops if they're not actually that busy. Plus as you're finding out, having nobody prepared to pay you the rates you think you should get doesn't do much for your self worth once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads.
That aside, if you don't want to set boundaries in terms of timed bookings (and what about services?) and so on I think you're setting yourself up for an absolute nightmare and unless you're prepared to drop your expectations a bit and be realistic about your business you might be better sticking with what you know.
Also don't forget you can always start differently and rebrand yourself once you've got established and found your feet a bit! There are people here whi have sone just that, and you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs :D.
Without wanting to bang on about the Sugarbaby side of it, from reading the OPs thoughts on that, if I?m completely honest it sounds like you are stuck in the Sugarbaby mentality, NOT a criticism but an observation.
As an escort you just cannot afford to do this, you have have a realistic rate, your own strict boundaries, including keeping to the booked time, and what services you provide, otherwise as Amy said you could well be looking at some nightmarish scenarios.
I understand you don?t want to go below a certain rate and want to attract a certain clientele, but you CANNOT ignore market forces, you may not think you are worth less than X amount but as you have found it can be pretty lonely out there sticking to your guns.
I appreciate you have lowered your rates but most of us would agree they are still on the high side. There are plenty of escorts in London charging high rates who I know for a fact feel trapped by that, feel they cannot lower them (especially if they are on Twitter and are dependent on that crowd) but who are not making enough, and who take on agency or even brothel work on the side.
Amy?s advice is good. Whilst there are some out there charging premium rates (say ?300+) you can bet your bottom dollar they didn?t start off like that.
I don?t mean to be harsh, just offering some honest advice.
-
Here?s my 2p. The escorts who charge ?500 an hour do so because they don?t want many clients. They know they will only see one a week or something.
I know an escort who charges a minimum of ?400 per meet (only does 2 hours+) but she has spent at least 2 years building a reputation, offers a niche service, has a luxury incall place with a dedicated playroom.
Maybe being a sugar baby is better for you, or offer dinner dates so you can charge ?300 for 3 hours or something but only 1 hour in the bedroom.
-
As others have said...it's the rate that's where you're stumbling block is. I started off doing ?100 per hour out calls until I built up feedback and reputation. I understand your points about the sugar scene...but escorting is a different animal and guys want to see they are booking x for x rate for x amount of time.
I honestly think anybody brand new to the scene with no reputation will struggle to get ?500 an hour, or even 300.
The best advice I can give you is look at the other ladies in your area who offer a similar service and similar age and look, and see where you fit in with all that and set your rates accordingly. It's fine saying it's not worth it to you for less than ?250...but you may find its not going to be for you in that case.
-
Amy?s advice is good. Whilst there are some out there charging premium rates (say ?300+) you can bet your bottom dollar they didn?t start off like that.
I don?t mean to be harsh, just offering some honest advice.
Agree and I dont think you being harsh. By reading OP post i can see her prices wont bring her any business. Yes its about money and being new doesn't help. I wish i could charge over 200 per meeting but then guys expecting something special. We all got same pussies so why they would pay me more?
About timewasters..I get them all the time even with plenty of feedbacks and after 2 years escorting. I can smell them miles away now ;D and wont give them chance to mess me around like as when I was new. Its part of business and i learned how to deal with them without being angry.
-
Well yes, I'd say you're comparing apples and oranges and we do have a separate thread somewhere which covers this 'sugar' stuff in the Blather section. It's in that section because it's completely different from straightforward upfront prostitution which is what the rest of us here are talking about, and possibly why we might appear tonbe at cross purposes.
That said, don't believe everything your competition friends tell you - it's not that likely that anybody with that sort of ego is going to shout it from the rooftops if they're not actually that busy. Plus as you're finding out, having nobody prepared to pay you the rates you think you should get doesn't do much for your self worth once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads.
That aside, if you don't want to set boundaries in terms of timed bookings (and what about services?) and so on I think you're setting yourself up for an absolute nightmare and unless you're prepared to drop your expectations a bit and be realistic about your business you might be better sticking with what you know.
Also don't forget you can always start differently and rebrand yourself once you've got established and found your feet a bit! There are people here whi have sone just that, and you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs :D.
Yes I was. Now I realised I shouldn't and was the wrong comparison.
I know sugaring is completely different, I only mentioned that to explain myself. I'm not seeking advice on that. :)
once you've finished enjoying the look of the big price tag on your ads. Haha... So very true. I did enjoy looking at the price tag!😂😂😂😂
Oh no, I have boundaries for my services, and for my time too. I was just trying to explain my pricing and my preference for longer dates. However, realistically it will be difficult to start with a 2 hour plus booking as a newbie, as not many new clients would book a non reviewed or established girl for a 2 hour plus date, without initially doing an hour session with her, and maybe 2 hours max.
Being realistic and trying to start slowly is why I have hourly rate and reduced it to 250, instead of doing say 3hrs minimum booking at 500.
you never knwo, you might even not mind slumming it amongst we plebs :D. 😂😂 In all honesty, I wouldn't mind if I can somehow make myself happy at a lower rate and build up a good level of clientele, but I just don't see that happening. I was very sad to reduce my rate to 250, if I had know before I started that 150 was the best going rate to kick start, I might not have considered escorting or find it enticing as I did.
I'll keep you all posted, if I do become a 150 hottie. 😀
Here's another secret thought; what if I become 150 and get no work?🤔 That's a scary thought, because I might take it personal. 🤪 ::) So far, it hasn't affected my self esteem. I don't think it is me or no one want me, because I know better (and I hope anyone else in my shoes or having a bad day or reading this thread wouldn't feel like that. There are just toooooo many variables!) Although I can't help thinking maybe God dosn't want to be a hoe....lol 😂
-
You mention that your a woman of colour so I'm assuming black / Mixed race
The escorts that I know that charge between ?300 - ?500 plus all work abroad, Dubai Singapore Hong Kong USA Australia and parts of Europe. And even then they aren't always that busy . Sometimes doing only 1 booking every few days
I know of several black / mixed race escorts who do this but when they return to the uk to work they charge between ?150 -?250 per hour
They could not get the higher price in the uk as an independent escort
To be perfectly honest I think you will struggle at ?500 per hr regardless of your colour or ethnicity
And it's not particularly quiet either I've been of on holiday / off work the past 6 weeks but Jan and early Feb were really busy for myself and most of my escort friends were the same work wise and
I've been at home since I got back from holiday not working but I could have done a few bookings a day if I wanted to so the work is there if your reasonably priced and have a good profile, website
You are absolutely right! That has been my observation too.
I also think you are right on the second point, 500 is a little ambitious for the UK market regardless of race, generally speaking. Thinking about it, my acquaintances that high class and charging above 400 mainly tour and have international clients.
So I do realise that to get a steady income in this business I'll have to look at my rate carefully. I'm getting there, just not sure I can mentally, even if I want to, go as low as 150.
Thank for your comments. 🙂
-
Here's another secret thought; what if I become 150 and get no work?🤔 That's a scary thought, because I might take it personal. 🤪 ::) So far, it hasn't affected my self esteem. I don't think it is me or no one want me, because I know better (and I hope anyone else in my shoes or having a bad day or reading this thread wouldn't feel like that. There are just toooooo many variables!) Although I can't help thinking maybe God dosn't want to be a hoe....lol 😂
There's those who refuse to work for less that 500 an hour and there's those to refuse to work for less than 50 an hour. You don;t need to give anyone explanations. If you're going to make the same or less money escorting than you do at your actual job then i agree with you that escorting may not be worth it. I mean.. You can ask for advice here but expectations and business models are different for everyone posting here. What may not work for you might work for some lady operating in some town on the midlands, so take the "advice" with a pinch of salt... :-)
-
however (to the oP): with limited hours due to a full time job and outcall only you're going to struggle girl :P
I agree I will...or I am. That said, I only want few clients a week.
Thanks very much for your advice. 🙂
-
I think regardless of what kind of ?class? you put yourself in, everyone needs to start somewhere and from humble beginnings you can rise to be something great. If you are not getting any bookings at the price you are at, lower them. Especially if you are completely new as your time will come when you can start to charge the prices you want but you need to work for it a little and sacrifice. I think that?s what will help you succeed if you plan on doing this long term.
I started out at ?90 for outcalls. I used to have a morning, afternoon and evening outcall 4 days a week throughout London without fail (for that prices, services and how far I traveled yes!!).
I?m now ?150hr for my incalls, I have enough now finally after this literal cold spell to carry on and this is after just 6 months. I worked and saved, invested into my business and went through the highs and lows of escorting and Im not finished yet. I?m now where I want to be for now and I am content with my prices and I am still busy because I?ve managed to show myself as a genuine lady who works hard and just wants to do well.
I try and just focus on what I am doing rather than worry too much about my competition. I think there is a great support network for ladies including here and on other social networking platforms and it?s personally given me more confidence to push myself further in my career. Take the advice that you feel works for you but for the sake of earning some money, giving you more confidence and experience I think the best advice is to lower a little so that you can at least get your foot in the door first xx
Thanks very much for sharing your journey. I very much appreciate it and very pleased to hear you are doing well and happy where you are now.
I totally agree with your point. In an industry you start slowly and work your way up is how is done. I did lose sight of that with my original pricing but I learned and changed price.
I'm currently okay with my rate at 250, and will struggle mentally to offer my service at a lower rate. But if I can somehow be okay with a lower rate/150 an hour, I'll reduce my rate.
If I can't and couldn't make it at 250 at all, then escorting is not the business for me. That would be the reality and I'm a realistic person. Is important to me that I'm happy with this job if I was to do it.
In the mean time, I'll hold on to my civie job and start looking for promotion there.
Thanks again for your input. 🙂
-
I only offer outcalls to hotels too, I'm based in South Yorkshire and offer an hour at ?150. Only offering outcalls means I'm less likely to get bookings and I usually get 1 per week, I am hoping this will increase more as I have been made redundant in my normal, civvy job this week and I am now available all day, every day. I do camming on the side a few days a week and I can usually earn ?200 plus per week..
I'd your able too, stay at a hotel/apartment on days your free and take incalls from there, advertise the days you will be staying there a week or two beforehand, try and get some definite bookings in advance ... This may help. Xx
I'm so very sorry to hear about your civie job. I can't imagine that happening to me. This really touched me, I really sorry. I hope you are okay?
I have considered the incall arrangement but I'll think about it again. I got some tips on another thread, so I know is worth considering.
Sending you virtual hugs. I hope business start picking up for you.
-
Without wanting to bang on about the Sugarbaby side of it, from reading the OPs thoughts on that, if I?m completely honest it sounds like you are stuck in the Sugarbaby mentality, NOT a criticism but an observation.
As an escort you just cannot afford to do this, you have have a realistic rate, your own strict boundaries, including keeping to the booked time, and what services you provide, otherwise as Amy said you could well be looking at some nightmarish scenarios.
I understand you don?t want to go below a certain rate and want to attract a certain clientele, but you CANNOT ignore market forces, you may not think you are worth less than X amount but as you have found it can be pretty lonely out there sticking to your guns.
I appreciate you have lowered your rates but most of us would agree they are still on the high side. There are plenty of escorts in London charging high rates who I know for a fact feel trapped by that, feel they cannot lower them (especially if they are on Twitter and are dependent on that crowd) but who are not making enough, and who take on agency or even brothel work on the side.
Amy?s advice is good. Whilst there are some out there charging premium rates (say ?300+) you can bet your bottom dollar they didn?t start off like that.
I don?t mean to be harsh, just offering some honest advice.
No I like it harsh!! Haha...thank you. I like this forum because advices are candid and no sugar coating.
I appreciate your advice and you are certainly correct, I can't ignore market forces.
I know from my little experience in the industry now, reading this forum and doing other research that I have done everything I can to start getting work, except reduce my rate to 150. So I made this thread wondering whether there's was something else have missed or not doing, but from everyone's input so far, there's nothing, except my rate. And that's the market forces I'm ignoring.
Like I said in my previous posts, whether I will become a 150 hottie and have some good fun like you wonderful women or pack it in is a decision I'll have to make.
Thanks again.
-
No I like it harsh!! Haha...thank you. I like this forum because advices are candid and no sugar coating.
I appreciate your advice and you are certainly correct, I can't ignore market forces.
I know from my little experience in the industry now, reading this forum and doing other research that I have done everything I can to start getting work, except reduce my rate to 150. So I made this thread wondering whether there's was something else have missed or not doing, but from everyone's input so far, there's nothing, except my rate. And that's the market forces I'm ignoring.
Like I said in my previous posts, whether I will become a 150 hottie and have some good fun like you wonderful women or pack it in is a decision I'll have to make.
Thanks again.
Give it a little time at ?250 and try and promote it heavily? Also whilst London is better than most places for outcalls, is there absolutely no way you can book a hotel room for a day and promote this for incalls because this is another major factor.
I really do wish you luck at your new rate.
-
Maybe being a sugar baby is better for you, or offer dinner dates so you can charge ?300 for 3 hours or something but only 1 hour in the bedroom.
This is more than 2p!!! Thank you!
I'll think about that idea. 🤗 :-*
-
It's fine saying it's not worth it to you for less than ?250...but you may find its not going to be for you in that case.
That's exactly what I'm thinking. But I'll see.
Thanks for your advice. 🙂
-
About timewasters..I get them all the time even with plenty of feedbacks and after 2 years escorting. I can smell them miles away now ;D and wont give them chance to mess me around like as when I was new. Its part of business and i learned how to deal with them without being angry.
Likewise! I smell them from far.....one one thing, if nothing else, I learned being a SB is spotting TW and I'm glad I have that skill now.
I have a standard message for them, if I have an incline to reply. Although I got few cleaver ones recently. But nonehas really wasted my time so far.
Thank you 🙂
-
There's those who refuse to work for less that 500 an hour and there's those to refuse to work for less than 50 an hour. You don;t need to give anyone explanations. If you're going to make the same or less money escorting than you do at your actual job then i agree with you that escorting may not be worth it. I mean.. You can ask for advice here but expectations and business models are different for everyone posting here. What may not work for you might work for some lady operating in some town on the midlands, so take the "advice" with a pinch of salt... :-)
Couldn't agreed more. 🙂
-
That's exactly what I'm thinking. But I'll see.
Thanks for your advice. 🙂
If you do decide to walk away do so with your head held high...you tried it and decided it wasn't for you. There's far from any shame in that....the media have everyone believing we spend half our time by the pool in the carribean in our gucci sandals and that money rains down on us....it isn't the case.
One other thing..I see you mention that 'so far it hasn't effected' your self esteem. Nobody should ever, ever be attaching their sense of self worth to how much a man is willing to pay them for sex. Period.
-
One other thing..I see you mention that 'so far it hasn't effected' your self esteem. Nobody should ever, ever be attaching their sense of self worth to how much a man is willing to pay them for sex. Period.
Definitely not!
-
I actually think that 250 per hour for an incall in Central London is totally achievable and not some crazy money.
It takes time to build business as everyone says but you don't seem to be pressed with circumstances, have your job and steady income and most of all you're determined and motivated.
The OP is only doing outcalls, not incalls - I think the point a lot of people were trying to make was that every little thing we do which makes us available to fewer punters (whether that's high rates, limited hours or good old discrimination against various demographics) means that we'll wind up with ...fewer punters. Which is fine if you're starting with loads but not so fine if you're not.
I agree about the 250 for an outcall though; for the sort of market the OP is aiming for I think it's fine and far more realistic. As for the advice (and advice is what it is, so I'm not quite sure why one poster chose to put it in inverted commas) I think there's been lots of helpful stuff here for many people reading and it even reminded me that I ought to see if I can find the weird old C69 review I had in about 2008 :D
-
paris, there's a market for the 500 an hour escort in central London, these are usually model looking young girls dressed to the 9's. And yes, they are busy (i personally know of a few). I don't know the OP's business model or marketing so can't really elaborate, but market for the "high class escort" (or whatever posh name you want to insert) there is certainly one. they may not get 5 people a day, but 2 a week (sometimes more) that for sure.
however (to the oP): with limited hours due to a full time job and outcall only you're going to struggle girl :P
I know that there is a market for ?500 per hour, there is a market for just about everything and everytype in this business but it depends on how much they want to make overall .
i would imagine it depends on varying factors such as if they do outcalls / incalls and if they have limited hours
The escorts that I know personally that charge ?500 per hour will generally do outcalls throughout the night and often be available 24hrs and do outcalls in the early hours of the morning
That's something I couldn't do I'm way to lazy and like my bed to much 😂
I don't think the OP would struggle at ?250 per hour though in London there are plenty that charge that and get work especially for outcalls
-
There's a market for every price range and type of service imo (a smaller one for sky high prices and some types but it is there if you can market to it). 250 seems totally reasonable to me but I also agree with most previous posters outcall only is tough especially if your not established.
OP when you say limited availability how limited are we talking? People keep asking your rates and ads but they sound all in order from what you say, I'm wondering if your availability is geared too much to them working around your schedule? To some extent clients will fit around you but there is a limit to how flexible they will be, they have lives and careers too. I charge no where near 500 but i charge enough when in London BUT I get one outcall a month solely bc I'm horribly hard to book due to other commitments, large deposits and I loath outcalls. My money is from incalls ?r the rare weeks when I am more flexible on times and dates. Can you try a hotel? Or apartment? I know incalls are different and of your nor used to it intimidating but if your in London you could just get a hotel deal and not stay just take bookings there? Also do you have anyone to duo with to make up some feedback/reviews/followers?
-
There's a market for every price range and type of service imo (a smaller one for sky high prices and some types but it is there if you can market to it). 250 seems totally reasonable to me but I also agree with most previous posters outcall only is tough especially if your not established.
OP when you say limited availability how limited are we talking? People keep asking your rates and ads but they sound all in order from what you say, I'm wondering if your availability is geared too much to them working around your schedule? To some extent clients will fit around you but there is a limit to how flexible they will be, they have lives and careers too. I charge no where near 500 but i charge enough when in London BUT I get one outcall a month solely bc I'm horribly hard to book due to other commitments, large deposits and I loath outcalls. My money is from incalls ?r the rare weeks when I am more flexible on times and dates. Can you try a hotel? Or apartment? I know incalls are different and of your nor used to it intimidating but if your in London you could just get a hotel deal and not stay just take bookings there? Also do you have anyone to duo with to make up some feedback/reviews/followers?
No I don't have anyone to duo with...well I could with my friend but she'll struggling for new clients too.
My time is a little flexible, but I'm mainly available in the evenings say from 6pm and I'm available all weekends. I'm flexible for travel and can be available during day if I have to. My schedule doesn't particularly affect business, I don't think. Most business men would book after working hours. I don't even state my available on ads and my AW calendar is free 24/7.
Indeed hotel/incall can be a little....not intimidating....maybe awkward? I'm kinda shy and a little nervous thinking about incalls...lol. But I'm seriously considering testing it out.
I do really just prefer outcalls. That's my market.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. 🙂
-
Oh sorry, I should have read more carefully, it's even in the thread title :-\
Haha....is okay. I believe your point remains valid.
Thanks for your kind reply. 🙂
-
To conform with escorting pricing, I had to charge hourly and after researching similar lifestyle girls (not necessarily looks, but mainly background and SB turn escorts acquaintances) I settled on 500/hr ( the girls are charging up to twice that). But I agree, it was ambitious but they were doing well and I didn't realise it is a little different for women of colour (something I have come to admit only recently with enough evidence (please let not deraile the thread with this point))
So ego aside, hard business decision hat on, I repriced myself. But that's my answer to your question.
If I can't do well at 250, I might have to admit escorting is not for me after all. And that's fine. But offering my service at a price lower than am happy with is demotivating and takes away the sense of pride and achievement that entice me to the profession in the first place. It will becomes nothing more than any other jobs/profession which we do because it pays the bills.
I'm very passionate about becoming an escort and really want to make a success of it, hence my rate reduction and learning to be comfortable with much lower rate than anticipated, but I would no longer escorting if I can't command the minimum price I want.
Thanks for your reply Amy. :)
I don't know of a single London escort charging ?500+ an hour and many of those charging near to that have a) a civvy job b) several different personas at different rates c) have worked hard to build up regulars and a reputation and have increased rates over a number of years.
for me, it is just a job that pays the bills tbh. I could earn more in a full time civvy job but i wouldn't have the flexibility.
have you thought about increasing your minimum date length and not offering single hours?
-
No I don't have anyone to duo with...well I could with my friend but she'll struggling for new clients too.
My time is a little flexible, but I'm mainly available in the evenings say from 6pm and I'm available all weekends. I'm flexible for travel and can be available during day if I have to. My schedule doesn't particularly affect business, I don't think. Most business men would book after working hours. I don't even state my available on ads and my AW calendar is free 24/7.
Indeed hotel/incall can be a little....not intimidating....maybe awkward? I'm kinda shy and a little nervous thinking about incalls...lol. But I'm seriously considering testing it out.
I do really just prefer outcalls. That's my market.
Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. 🙂
Similar hours to me then although I don't offer every weeknight. Could you ask them for a deposit to cover a room cost of they do book the room and even if they no show no no loss? You can always use the room for escort but not for sleeping and chilling? Make It feel like an outcall? It depends on your ads but I think outcall is tougher than it sounds unless your agency and can charge 500+ as a result.
-
Similar hours to me then although I don't offer every weeknight. Could you ask them for a deposit to cover a room cost of they do book the room and even if they no show no no loss? You can always use the room for escort but not for sleeping and chilling? Make It feel like an outcall? It depends on your ads but I think outcall is tougher than it sounds unless your agency and can charge 500+ as a result.
I offer incall at ?100 more, with a deposit and 24hrs notice. But incall clients are generally instant bookers or few hours notice. Not 24hrs or more.
When theu call, they are ready for their session not book a day in advance, let alone more days.
My rate is currently 250, not 500. But yeah outcalls is not as popular.
-
for me, it is just a job that pays the bills tbh. I could earn more in a full time civvy job but i wouldn't have the flexibility.
have you thought about increasing your minimum date length and not offering single hours?
I already have a job that pays the bills, escorting means a lot more to me than that and I would hate to turn it into just another job.
Yes I have and that's my actual business concepts as I cater for real GFE with longer sessions. But I realised 1 and 2 hours sessions are the main demands. And generally speaking, new clients who want to try a short session to assess chemistry before jumping into dinner dates and overnight e.t.c, especially with a newbie without reviews. Hence my minimum starts at 1hr.
Otherwise ideally, my service will start from 3 hours at 500.
-
If you don't want to do it for less than 500 then why don't you charge that for 3 or 4 hours and just not offer any shorter bookings? You should get a few then but 500 ph isn't going to happen on aw, I think you'd need your own website or to belong to a posh agency for that
-
If you don't want to do it for less than 500 then why don't you charge that for 3 or 4 hours and just not offer any shorter bookings? You should get a few then but 500 ph isn't going to happen on aw, I think you'd need your own website or to belong to a posh agency for that
This is actually a good point....I don't think many of the ladies charging nosebleed rates are relying on aw.
-
also ?500ph agency work, probably nets you about ?350 ph. Also, as I've said above lots of those girls also have other personas charging much less. Adultwork works for me (slowly but still works!) when i have had rates of ?250. They are ?200 at the minute and I find that's about the right volume for me.
-
From what I gather you're on social media and you follow other ladies, right?
I used to be in exactly your situation one year ago and making the same mistakes. Set my rates based on what others were charging and thought I'd be swimming in money a few months later. It didn't happen... It took months before I was able to pay my bills and save some money (and I had a permanent incall location contrary to you).
The truth is that the best way to start in this business is to start at a lower rate, have set days per week for incalls, work on getting some regulars and reviews, invest some of what you make in professional shoots, gorgeous website and premium ads. When you feel like you can comfortably raise your rates, do it! But you'll probably feel like you won't need to. Clients at £140ph are as lovely as clients at £250ph. If anything, they'll expect less and be way happier with your service.
And don't believe in what you see in social media because:
That girl that is very exclusive and charges £300 ph and is fully booked secretly has another persona where she charges £160;
That lady that just posted a photo of a hotel suite and says "bla bla bla overnight" is actually a photo that she took months ago when she booked the room for a photoshoot;
That designer bag that was a gift from "lovely client M." is a knockoff that she bought when she was touring HK last week;
That michelin star restaurant where a client took a lady for a dinner date is actually a picture of that escort's anniversary dinner with her boyfriend.
A lot of it is bullshit...and that is ok because it's how they choose to market themselves. It's only sad that it creates false expectations to newbies, like it did to me.
My advice for you would be this: maybe increase the duration of your dates? Maybe 1h30 for £250. Saying to a client "hey, this is my rate but you can stay as long as you want" is bound to create a boundary pusher and a bad client who might expect every girl to do that for him.
-
From what I gather you're on social media and you follow other ladies, right?
I used to be in exactly your situation one year ago and making the same mistakes. Set my rates based on what others were charging and thought I'd be swimming in money a few months later. It didn't happen... It took months before I was able to pay my bills and save some money (and I had a permanent incall location contrary to you).
The truth is that the best way to start in this business is to start at a lower rate, have set days per week for incalls, work on getting some regulars and reviews, invest some of what you make in professional shoots, gorgeous website and premium ads. When you feel like you can comfortably raise your rates, do it! But you'll probably feel like you won't need to. Clients at £140ph are as lovely as clients at £250ph. If anything, they'll expect less and be way happier with your service.
And don't believe in what you see in social media because:
That girl that is very exclusive and charges £300 ph and is fully booked secretly has another persona where she charges £160;
That lady that just posted a photo of a hotel suite and says "bla bla bla overnight" is actually a photo that she took months ago when she booked the room for a photoshoot;
That designer bag that was a gift from "lovely client M." is a knockoff that she bought when she was touring HK last week;
That michelin star restaurant where a client took a lady for a dinner date is actually a picture of that escort's anniversary dinner with her boyfriend.
A lot of it is bullshit...and that is ok because it's how they choose to market themselves. It's only sad that it creates false expectations to newbies, like it did to me.
My advice for you would be this: maybe increase the duration of your dates? Maybe 1h30 for £250. Saying to a client "hey, this is my rate but you can stay as long as you want" is bound to create a boundary pusher and a bad client who might expect every girl to do that for him.
All brilliant points.
-
I already have a job that pays the bills, escorting means a lot more to me than that and I would hate to turn it into just another job.
Yes I have and that's my actual business concepts as I cater for real GFE with longer sessions. But I realised 1 and 2 hours sessions are the main demands. And generally speaking, new clients who want to try a short session to assess chemistry before jumping into dinner dates and overnight e.t.c, especially with a newbie without reviews. Hence my minimum starts at 1hr.
Otherwise ideally, my service will start from 3 hours at 500.
Be careful saying you offer Real GFE as some guys will take that to mean you offer bare back xx
-
From what I gather you're on social media and you follow other ladies, right?
I used to be in exactly your situation one year ago and making the same mistakes. Set my rates based on what others were charging and thought I'd be swimming in money a few months later. It didn't happen... It took months before I was able to pay my bills and save some money (and I had a permanent incall location contrary to you).
The truth is that the best way to start in this business is to start at a lower rate, have set days per week for incalls, work on getting some regulars and reviews, invest some of what you make in professional shoots, gorgeous website and premium ads. When you feel like you can comfortably raise your rates, do it! But you'll probably feel like you won't need to. Clients at £140ph are as lovely as clients at £250ph. If anything, they'll expect less and be way happier with your service.
And don't believe in what you see in social media because:
That girl that is very exclusive and charges £300 ph and is fully booked secretly has another persona where she charges £160;
That lady that just posted a photo of a hotel suite and says "bla bla bla overnight" is actually a photo that she took months ago when she booked the room for a photoshoot;
That designer bag that was a gift from "lovely client M." is a knockoff that she bought when she was touring HK last week;
That michelin star restaurant where a client took a lady for a dinner date is actually a picture of that escort's anniversary dinner with her boyfriend.
A lot of it is bullshit...and that is ok because it's how they choose to market themselves. It's only sad that it creates false expectations to newbies, like it did to me.
My advice for you would be this: maybe increase the duration of your dates? Maybe 1h30 for £250. Saying to a client "hey, this is my rate but you can stay as long as you want" is bound to create a boundary pusher and a bad client who might expect every girl to do that for him.
Don't I know it! Lol...is all a marketing ploy. I was very surprised when I see some of the girls I thought were charging 300+ having lower rate on the low down. I'm not sure how they think client wouldn't find out. They shop around!
Very good points, but am leaving my rate at 300. That's tge lowest that am prepared to go. I'm in London and 300 is not expensive.
I started scheduling incalls on Thursday and things are picking up. I'll post an update on my journey in few weeks.
-
If you can market yourself properly as a high class escort (fancy website, fancy location, fancy photos and fancy text) absolutely go for it. there's definately a market in london for the 300 crowd, however.. do keep in mind that you won't have men lining up your door, but if you're ok with being low volume (as in 2, 3 or 4) clients a week then absolutely go for it.
-
I have a friend who started escorting this year, we shared an apartment & she wasn’t getting any calls nevermind jobs. I checked her prof & her rates were £300hr incall...In manchester 😐 I suggest maybe she’s charging far too high considering she isn’t established but she said she doesn’t wanna change her prices. I think she may have dropped them to 200hr but don’t think she’s busy at all. Especially in Manchester where I’d say the going rate is 100-160 for an Incall
I mean I think everyone would like to be able to charge what they think they’re worth but it really doesn’t work like that. I’ve worked in parlours £50 for half an hour, agencies earning £70-£120 an hour, & indipendant charging £120 for incalls. I think sometimes you just gotta take what you can get & work towards more.
-
I mean I think everyone would like to be able to charge what they think they’re worth but it really doesn’t work like that.
It doesn't, but that's because nobody is selling themselves - human beings can't have a monetary value and punters are not buying us. We're selling a service, and if somebody is going to charge vastly higher sums than others for what amounts to the broadly the same group of things - shagging, blow jobs, massages and so on - then they need to think of good reasons that will make punters pay that premium instead of just going to Flossie down the road who is pretty, nice, enthusiastic and charges half as much.
The reasons don't actually have to be real (the 'exclusivity' illusion that you charge loads and therefore only shag one random a month rather than five a day appeals to some punters, for example) but that's basically what it is. Marketing, in other words :).
-
Hello everyone! 🙂
I always thought I'll come back to this thread and share my updates once I figured it out, but then I stopped being active and never did. Then pandemic came and I was off work for 1.5 years and went back to lurking lol.
Anyway, I logged in one day and read a thread where Amy had replied saying "... I think she's still around somewhere..." referring to me ... lol ... and I thought, oh yeah, I am! 🤣
Then I remembered, I promised myself to update the thread and share my experience once I figured things out. So here it is.
Wow, how times flies! This career started officially (lol) in 2018 and is now 2023! Well, like Amy said, I am still around. Very much so.
Without boring you with a long essay, after this thread, I tried some hotel incall using Day Use, but that idea didn't work for me.
I really took time to understand the industry for the first year and half, did a lot of information gathering/research, spoke to a variety of people, including agency owmers, directory owners, read a lot of sex workers forums and clients ones (yike! haha). During that time I worked on and off as outcall only, but took some incalls where the clients were happy to pay for the hotel. These were few and far between - I guess is because they were charged extra for that.
My rate for the first 1.5 years was 300/hr, plus additional 100 for transport fare for outcalls or hotel, for those who wanted incall.
By the end of 1.5 years or so, I had figured out what worked and didn't for me. It was then, I launched my brand and focused on attracting the business I wanted. one of the key changes was new pictures. Turned out the ones I had prior weren't doing me any justice. Rates increased to 400/hr and transport fare for outcalls remained an additional cost, but I think I removed the 100 flat rate and provided a fee on a case by case basis. Incall for those interested was still an additional 100 - but as I said, I rarely got it.
It was successful and going well for a few months when pandemic struck, and like most people, I closed the office and waited it out.
I tried to work during the 2nd wave of locked down/pandemic when most people resumed, but it wasn't worth it, because I was still outcall only and my clientele had been predominantly international. So I had to wait it out, and for other personal reasons, it wasn't worth it.
Anyway, fast forward to late/end of 2021, and I eventually resumed business. Revamped the brand and introduced incall facility. Rate increased steadily to what it is now, between 400-500/hr. I still get mostly outcalls and still charge extra for taxi fare, but I have gradually built up a small pool of incall clients.
I guess I fall into that low volume category, which works for me, but now I have the capacity to take on more clients and so would love to increase my volume. No plan to change rate anytime soon, and any changes will likely be increase to reflect inflation, but I'm happy where my rate are at the moment. No complain.
That's it. That's my story. I'm now just another LondonEscort2023 haha.
A big thanks to the forum members who participated and gave insightful advice back in 2018, and to all the active members of Saaf, you are all appreciated.
PS: I didn't read the OP/thread before posting this update, so is very possible I missed something or say something contradicting... Please feel free to ask for clarification.