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FullyFashioned

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Re: Neighbours found out - what to do?
« Reply #15 on: 06 January 2020, 10:38:39 pm »
Are you sure he's not the inventer of this wild and woolly tale- getting a fyshing-hardon?
Or have you seen this Wassup and verified it's a genuine tenant discussion?
Did you notice neighbours looking?

If it's genuine....20-27 guys a week in a 'normal' civvy dwelling eg not a basement with it's own entrance, or, eccentric half empty pied-à-terre set-up etc might attract paranoid nosey parkers. If you're unlucky. Once they get curious it gathers momentum as it's the most exciting thing in their day.

I agree with Anna...I'm in my tired old jeans, drab Ts, trainers, bobble hat to hide my hair on my way in and out of my crib. I'll wear them to let clients in if the door is faulty once in a blue moon. Like you my door control was broken for 4 months, a real pain.  They don't loose the horn though.
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I agree with others...evidence is required. Absentee landlord thousands of miles away may not give a toss. Presumably there is an agent who oversees tenants? who knows if they're arsed. My last agent said she didn't care if girls were 'working' quietly. It was the 'normal' people attracting robbers, damaging the paintwork with bikes and flooding the flats. Too many unpredicatable factors to worry about right now. Keep coining it in.

Hiya, I do max 15-16 guys a week. Also when I leave the property for shopping etc I don’t get dolled up as I can’t be arsed. The fixed intercom helps a lot since I don’t even have to leave the apartment.

I don’t know if it’s him, I know they have a group as I was once part of it so it’s legit people contributing. Like I said nothing came of it.

The agency lady who agreed the let was discreetly made aware by myself (stupid but she had no objections) and when we did the viewing she actually analysed the place from the angle of work (oh look that’s gonna be your playroom) and even asked how did I start and how to get into this  ;D...and then let me the property. Don’t know if other staff would be as lenient but hey ho.

So so far looks like a few jealous cunts that have nothing better to do with their day. I’ll keep posted if anything escalates. Thanks for all advice, worth reducing the volume and the noise.

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« Reply #16 on: 07 January 2020, 12:39:20 am »
When I used to work from home I kept a tatty towelling robe handy to throw on in case of last minute intercom issues. My huge fluffy animal slippers and a large hair clip were always ready too for if I needed to transform in a rush to nip down and let them in. It’s not ideal to greet clients like this, but the few times I needed to they completely understood. My porter there was a bit nosey, in a nice way. He knew I worked mainly night shifts in my civvie job, so wouldn’t bat an eye when he saw me in my slob gear. Seen in plenty enough times when I’d go to collect parcels etc.

See if you can get back on the WhatsApp group. Don’t contribute, just observe what they say. As Saltysweet said, I’d be smelling a bit of a rat with this one. Hope you’re okay x

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« Reply #17 on: 07 January 2020, 01:00:26 am »
The issue is though if a non sex worker got accused of being one then she’d understandably go nuts at the people saying it, it’s quite unrealistic to say nothing, would you ‘have a word’ with them just to make them believe that your raging and that your not a hooker! Make a joke of it and say something like ‘well I can’t be very good or I’d have my own mansion’ or something to that effect, makes them think that you think hookers earn millions! Haha.

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Re: Neighbours found out - what to do?
« Reply #18 on: 07 January 2020, 01:37:06 am »
Hello,

It’s a large new build block of flats, six floors high. I have a full time civvy job so cannot work during the day and only do evenings. I can see how they sussed it out since for a longer time I’d have to come down to let people in, but since two months now it’s possible to let guys in without going out of the flat. I’ve got one flat opposite me but not like bang on opposite, doubt he can see anything in the peephole. 

I do 2-3 people an evening and 5-6 people on a weekend day.

I always have the music on and try to control the noise.

So far just the bitching on WhatsApp by two people but you never know. I also haven’t been on it since 5-6 weeks now.

Perhaps playing devil's advocate here, but that is actually quite a lot of clients going in and out. If it's also when a lot of people are home, depending on the layout of the block, at least one neighbour next door and one each above and below could either hear sex noises or your music. If you can hear anything from other flats, perhaps see if there's anything you can do to muffle the noise, like rugs or something?
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« Reply #19 on: 07 January 2020, 02:29:02 am »
NorthernStar, Reading your story has also brought back memories for me. I was in a very similar situation also but the difference is that I don’t think my neighbours found out but I did work in a block of flats on the top floor and the landlord failed to install a door releaser so I had to keep on going up and down the stairs. Fortunate for me, I was released early from my initial 6 month fixed contract but I had to fight hard for it. I also had to pay a couple of hundred pounds (which apparently was The price that the landlord pays the letting agency) because the landlord basically had no intentions of installing a door releaser, even though they had installed an intercom and button in the flat  ::)

As you have renewed your contract you're obviously happy there And your landlord has fixed the problem with the communal door. So I guess you’re only options are to continue doing what you’re doing and don’t allow your nosy neighbour to get the best of you or reduce your numbers.
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TantricTease

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« Reply #20 on: 07 January 2020, 02:48:54 am »
The issue with neighbours and this job is that so many people think prostitution is illegal and they are shocked when they find out that it isn’t.

I watched Gogglebox a few weeks ago and there was something on the TV about sex workers and the shock from a few of the goggleboxers that it wasn’t illegal was quite funny.

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« Reply #21 on: 07 January 2020, 09:56:23 am »
The issue is though if a non sex worker got accused of being one then she’d understandably go nuts at the people saying it, it’s quite unrealistic to say nothing, would you ‘have a word’ with them just to make them believe that your raging and that your not a hooker! Make a joke of it and say something like ‘well I can’t be very good or I’d have my own mansion’ or something to that effect, makes them think that you think hookers earn millions! Haha.

That's a bad idea. The neighbours are clearly divided amongst them when it comes to her escort ways. With her intercom working the issue seems to be slowly dying. Unless she f-cks up badly (like a client creating a scene, having druggies show up at her place or partying with loud music) I doubt neighbours will gang up on her. She sounds to be running  a smart operation. Her making a big fuss for (the horrors!) "being a confused as a sex worker" and making waves will bring the issue back into the building spotlight. Plus she will come out as very paranoid of what people think about her making herself vulnerable. I would lay low if I were her, not make waves and let this issue die a natural death.
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« Reply #22 on: 07 January 2020, 10:49:36 am »
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'The agency lady who agreed the let was discreetly made aware by myself (stupid but she had no objections) and when we did the viewing she actually analysed the place from the angle of work (oh look that’s gonna be your playroom) and even asked how did I start and how to get into this  ;D...and then let me the property. Don’t know if other staff would be as lenient but hey ho.'

So there's potential information leakage from an 'official' source, that may be relevant. Once it's out there it's got wings. Chatty, open people like that are refreshing but can 'innocently' spill the beans willy-nilly without intention to harm. What's the Sir Bob Marley lyric?

'Only your friend know your secrets
So only he could reveal it'
« Last Edit: 07 January 2020, 01:47:53 pm by saltysweet »

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Re: Neighbours found out - what to do?
« Reply #23 on: 09 January 2020, 10:36:23 am »
The issue with neighbours and this job is that so many people think prostitution is illegal and they are shocked when they find out that it isn’t.

I watched Gogglebox a few weeks ago and there was something on the TV about sex workers and the shock from a few of the goggleboxers that it wasn’t illegal was quite funny.

Yep, that’s why those tossers claimed they will be calling the police on me. Let’s just hope their knowledge is equally scant in everything else and they won’t figure they can complain to the lardlord and pressure him as to kick me out as knowingly renting to me that’s illegal.

Still waiting for any police visits, agency letters, landlord letters or abusive behaviours - nothing happening yet.

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« Reply #24 on: 09 January 2020, 11:02:41 am »
I agree. High volume work does attract attention,
esp. if you're in a fixed location,
as opposed to work flats/hotels.
Indiscreet punters share the address ("what's the address of that?" "oh it's so and so"
 and sometimes, post it on purpose, for anyone to see.

Those, who were "refused" by you as you didn't get on too well with them,
they could post a copy of AW gallery photos, to harass and cause trouble etc.
Not unheard of. 

It's ok if your property is not vandalised by angry neighbours.
 I have seen some posts/threads on the subject.
This would make things unbearable.





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« Reply #25 on: 09 January 2020, 05:40:43 pm »
Yep, that’s why those tossers claimed they will be calling the police on me. Let’s just hope their knowledge is equally scant in everything else and they won’t figure they can complain to the lardlord and pressure him as to kick me out as knowingly renting to me that’s illegal.

Still waiting for any police visits, agency letters, landlord letters or abusive behaviours - nothing happening yet.

Not sure that's the case, I thought that was only with brothels, you're indy.

A UK landlord website
'Interestingly, if you have one tenant in the property and you discover that s/he is a prostitute bringing clients back to the home; it’s not an offence to let them continue – unless you put the rent up when you find out, in which case you can be charged for living off the earnings of prostitution instead!'

Even so another building I was in had a brothel and they couldn't stop them, the girl owned the flat, maybe other circumstances too.
Another SW had a big court case and they decided her home wasn't a brothel despite having several mates working there.
« Last Edit: 09 January 2020, 05:53:08 pm by saltysweet »

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« Reply #26 on: 09 January 2020, 05:49:03 pm »
Not sure that's the case, I thought that was only with brothels, you're indy.

A UK landlord website
'Interestingly, if you have one tenant in the property and you discover that s/he is a prostitute bringing clients back to the home; it’s not an offence to let them continue – unless you put the rent up when you find out, in which case you can be charged for living off the earnings of prostitution instead!'

If whoever wrote that website paid for their legal advice, I hope they kept their receipt. What a complete pile of shite.

What they may be thinking of is Section 36 of the SOA 1956; Tenant permitting premises to be used for prostitution. Assuming the landlord isn't a tenant, it's irrelevant (Section 34 covers landlords permitting premises to be used as a brothel, but it isn't a brothel so also irrelevant).

saltysweet

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« Reply #27 on: 09 January 2020, 05:54:58 pm »
Oops Amy I'm all confused now! Have to have a look at that! ???
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« Reply #28 on: 09 January 2020, 05:59:12 pm »
Oops I'm all confused now!

Well unless you're planning to sublet, I wouldn't tie yourself in knots about it but the best place to look for legal stuff is the CPS website first and foremost, where the 1956 and 2003 Sexual Offences Acts are written out in full for all to read. Websites (including this one) where the people giving advice are not legal professionals can be helpful, but they're no substitute.

It does sound like Neighbour Cuntychops mentioned above went with the latter. This in itself can cause problems, because once people like this are ahown that they can't legally do anything, there will always be the occasional oddball who decides they're going to Do Something anyway ::)

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« Reply #29 on: 09 January 2020, 06:02:18 pm »
Neighbour Cuntychops ;D ;D thanks yes CPS I had a skim for other things and it's very interesting.
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