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Carla

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Marriage and the married client
« on: 11 May 2009, 10:57:55 am »
Ok, so more I'm not sure about what to think of this, so I was interested to hear if other people have come to conclusions after escorting for a while, or whether people feel the same way as me.

I consider myself level headed and open minded, and I think one thing this job teaches you is not to judge. But my issue is the number of married men who have made me pretty much resigned to the fact that relationships are a fairytale and its best not to enter one as they will all follow a similar path....

Recently I have had four in depth discussions with married clients about how unhappy they are in their marriage, how their wife doesn't talk to them or touch them anymore, and how they feel stuck and alone now their children have left the nest. Standard stuff really, heard it a million times before, but so many similar discussions in such a short space of time has just left me feeling a bit desolate about any future relationships. I mean, will every woman end up being that hated, unloved wife and mother one day??! These men, could they EVER talk to their wives frankly and openly, and did the ability to do so vanish over time? Or did they marry women they didn't feel 100% comfortable with, and if so, how dare they go through with the marriage and then change their mind and get restless and paint their wives as these unloving dragons who they can't talk to or share things with.

I know every relationship is unique, but this just seems like a desolate pattern that they will all eventually end up following- whether after 5 years or fifty years.

I think these thoughts have been ignited because I recently went on holiday with my dad, and he basically had a few drinks and then broke down and said these things about my mum, which I was pretty furious with him about because quite frankly what the hell am I supposed to say to that? But then I also felt awful for him and wanted to help him as he is obviously feeling really upset, and so it was a horrible situation to be in. I know this has definitely made me much more sensitive to hearing clients say it.

I mean, these poor women- I am petrified I will end up in love with a man whilst he appears to fall in love with me but actually harbours feelings of being trapped and not sharing everything with me in a short space of time, and then when I end up living with him and bearing him children, all will happen is that he will think I'm fat and mumsy now I've had HIS bloody babies, and end up sneaking around and confiding in another woman because he doesn't feel like he can to me. And then how can I resent this as I am actually currently providing such a service to married men at present?!

It's always the same: "have you talked to your wife and explained how you feel" him: "oh NO! I could never tell her!" WHAT?!

Maybe us escorts have the upper hand- we see men in a true light, and so we can make a much more informed decision about long-term relationships. Like not to bother with them at all perhaps?! Who knows? Any thoughts or experiences to share would be very interesting to read. Also, I just maxed out my credit card on ONE internet purchase and it's not even midday on monday yet. Goddamn. RUBBISH DAY ALREADY!!

Carla

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Re: Marriage and the married client
« Reply #1 on: 11 May 2009, 11:08:38 am »
Not to say all men are horrendous and all women are just poor unloved saints of course! I am really not taking the side of women or men here, it's just when you think about it too much like I obviously am, it's such a tricky one to get your head round being a woman who would one day like a family and currently being an escort.

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« Reply #2 on: 11 May 2009, 08:47:14 pm »
Oh you poor love, your Dad's probably kicking himself at the moment!

I guess the trouble is we only get to see the men whose marriages are in trouble though, the ones who are blissfully happy tend not to arrive on our doorsteps and so we have an unrepresentative selection of the male species in front of us. Take heart though, both of my folks are blissfully married, albeit not to each other, but still very happy.

I have a theory that sometimes us ladies of the night sometimes help keep marriages together with some pretty bad glue I might add. When the sexual side of a marriage collapses and it's not an equal decision, the other party gets what they need but without the emotional commitment of an affair. This is very much a theory as I'm not married and never have been.

Hope your parents work things out hun x

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Re: Marriage and the married client
« Reply #3 on: 11 May 2009, 09:34:29 pm »
I suspect some, if not most, of your guys may just be venting, and it's really not as bad as they present things.

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Re: Marriage and the married client
« Reply #4 on: 11 May 2009, 10:44:34 pm »
Good point Lilly - I've always believed that a married client spends time with an escort because, even though they possibly still do love their wife dearly, they have a physical need and their wife's just not interested.  They're not giving their heart away like in an affair.  It's a wake up call to all of us who are in, or hope to be in, a relationship.  I know for a fact that if I wasn't a WG and wasn't getting the sexual attention I need from my partner, and he wasn't willing to talk about it and come to a compromise, I would have to look elsewhere and make a booking.  Otherwise I'd be climbing the walls and getting a thrill from a purring cat.

I had a similar situation with my Dad when my parents seperated - I REALLY REALLY didn't want to hear some of the things he was telling me.  It'll pass Hun, if he starts "talking" again advise him to speak to relate!
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Re: Marriage and the married client
« Reply #5 on: 12 May 2009, 09:35:55 am »
Remember we only get to hear one side of the story. The wife probably thinks their relationship is blissfully happy and totally oblivious to the very notion that her husband may not be happy. He could be telling you tales of woe to make himself look the sorry victim in your eyes. You don't know. You've only got your client's word for it that there's something wrong in his marriage. It could be his justification for seeing escorts, who knows.

On the other hand, I've had clients who are totally happy in their marriage and wouldn't dream of leaving their wives. It's just that maybe her carnal desires have diminished somewhat, but he still has raging hormones, and rather than embark on a relationship, he seeks to have his sexual needs taken care of elsewhere on a no strings basis.

I'm always sympathetic if a client wants to talk about his relationship/marriage. But I try to remember that there are two sides to the story.

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« Reply #6 on: 12 May 2009, 08:38:20 pm »
Sorry for the ranting rambling thoughts yesterday- but thanks for your replies. I think yes actually, there is only one sort of client that we are going to see, and it's not going to be the one who has everything they are looking for in a relationship now is it, or they wouldn't be there! Thinking about it, I am actually glad I have seen this side of men and marriage and relationships before embarking upon a serious one myself- we know so much more about what drives a man that a lot of women ever will, I think.

Again, apologies for the looooooooooong musing though ladies and gents :)

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« Reply #7 on: 12 May 2009, 09:14:19 pm »
Sorry for the ranting rambling thoughts yesterday- but thanks for your replies. I think yes actually, there is only one sort of client that we are going to see, and it's not going to be the one who has everything they are looking for in a relationship now is it, or they wouldn't be there! Thinking about it, I am actually glad I have seen this side of men and marriage and relationships before embarking upon a serious one myself- we know so much more about what drives a man that a lot of women ever will, I think.

Again, apologies for the looooooooooong musing though ladies and gents :)

Carla, you don't need to apologise for posting this at all! This sort of thing has kept me awake at night before - I often wonder when punters go on about our fees and how much we must earn whether they think about what it can cost us in terms of our normal lives. I have wonderful, caring and (some) eminently fanciable clients who I adore and if I ever feel myself getting a bit too attached to them, I have to step back and remember that these men are liars, deceiving the women who love them and taking money from the family table to come and see me. These thoughts don't make me happy.

I do think that this work leaves us with an incredibly skewed view of men and relationships which I can't imagine anything can put right. I certainly dont see myself having a 'proper' relationship ever again, but the ones I had in civvy street were a waste of time anyway - cheats or no cheats! But there are good things out there - the men and women who are happily married and still going at it hammer and tongs into their seventies do exist, we just don't get to meet them, and that's as it should be. But I still know exactly where you're coming from. If anyone has any solutions to this I would love to hear them too!

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« Reply #8 on: 19 May 2009, 11:50:44 pm »
My view of all of this is that like some of the others have said I would rather a partner of mine go to an escort then shag some bimbo and have an affair. Sometimes guys have that whole madona/whore situation going on and feel that they can't be their true sexual selves with their wives/girlfriends.

My view of marriage for me that I would never settle for second best. If I think even in the slightest that there is someone better out there for me then I wouldn't commit and I would be making sure that he felt the same way. My grandparents where seperated by death and they truely loved eachother immensly right to the very end. I suppose I see that example and know that it can happen for me and I won't take anything less.

Suppose I am a bit of a romantic - please feel free to mock!

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« Reply #9 on: 24 May 2009, 01:34:31 am »
I would never mock anyone for the way they feel about relationships and marriage, whether they believe in hearts and flowers or are completly cynical.

I too think that we sometime save and keep a marriage going, by keeping the man from getting sexually frustrated in an otherwise good relationship and if I was married I personally would prefer my husband to shag a prossie than have a mistress.

However I don't see marriage through rose tinted glasses, we all change through experience and knowledge and I'd call anyone a liar who claims they are exactly the same as they were 10 years ago. Ergo any longterm relationship has to change too and the only way this can survive is when both partners develop in the same direction or are open with each other and accept the changes in their partner and are happy to live with that.

Openess and honesty are the most important foundations of every type of relationship (IMO)
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