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« Reply #15 on: 02 March 2016, 06:57:25 pm »
You are a business not a charity, put your foot down.

Tell him these are your rates and these are the hours that cover those rates, if he does not like it, I would suggest he finds someone else.

If you give in it will only make him think he can abuse his power as a punter because he assumes you need the money, I would be insulted.

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« Reply #16 on: 02 March 2016, 06:57:29 pm »
He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250.

Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.

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« Reply #17 on: 02 March 2016, 07:12:39 pm »
I don't do overnights but as you are obviously uncomfortable with the length of booking and the amount HE wants to pay I'd say renegotiate the length of booking and confirm a proper evening meal outside the hotel room. It sounds to me like he has it in his mind you will be surviving on peanuts and pop.
?650 would be acceptable for 8-9 hours but not 15.

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« Reply #18 on: 02 March 2016, 07:16:53 pm »
Hi Kendall,

Yes I agree with you. He is not the most talkative guy in the world. He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250. I have done an overnight with him before and he paid me much more than 650 and he also woke me up around 5 in the morning as he felt horny and wanted sex and I felt knackered the next day. I happened to be on tour at the time and I had to spend some of the day sleeping as I was really knackered. He said to me that he knows girls that do an overnight for 650 and thats what he offered me, I said well I dont know any that do it for that and I believe I am worth more.

He sounds like an entitled piece of shit, tell him to take his ?650 and go bore another girl for 15 hours

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« Reply #19 on: 02 March 2016, 08:28:57 pm »
I'd agree that's more than a normal overnight. I'd say e.g. that for 650 I'd have my own dinner, join him at 9pm, and go again at 9am.
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« Reply #20 on: 02 March 2016, 08:36:19 pm »
He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250.

Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.

Yep my thoughts too.
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« Reply #21 on: 02 March 2016, 08:45:11 pm »
He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250.

Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.

Yep my thoughts too.


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« Reply #22 on: 02 March 2016, 08:47:11 pm »
Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.

Yep my thoughts too.

And mine. I don't do overnights, but regardless of actual figures if somebody decided that he'd offer me a fraction of my usual fee and simultaneously expect me to work more hours for it (and what sort of overnight starts at 5pm and doesn't factor a proper meal in 15 hours?) I wouldn't just be turning him down, I'd be blocking his number.

If there are lots of people happy to do these hours for this rate, I'd very nicely encourage him to book one of them instead. If you really want the money I'd go with the posters who suggested renegotiating the time and leaving at the end of the evening, but watch any drinks you have like a hawk. There was a twat around a few years ago who used to book for 2 or three hours and add extra alcohol to drinks so the women he'd booked couldn't drive back and were stranded (and naturally 'had to' stay over ::)).

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« Reply #23 on: 02 March 2016, 11:03:36 pm »
Hi Kendall,

Yes I agree with you. He is not the most talkative guy in the world. He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250. I have done an overnight with him before and he paid me much more than 650 and he also woke me up around 5 in the morning as he felt horny and wanted sex and I felt knackered the next day. I happened to be on tour at the time and I had to spend some of the day sleeping as I was really knackered. He said to me that he knows girls that do an overnight for 650 and thats what he offered me, I said well I dont know any that do it for that and I believe I am worth more.
The "if you're finding work low" is a typical boundary pusher cheap skate response don't fall for it. I've had guys try and haggle my overnights and say if I am not getting any bookings less money is better than no money, to which I said no thanks and explained I'm not short of bookings so don't need to cheapen myself. If you are not comfortable with it don't do it, you set your rate as someone said. Would be start haggling his weekly shopping at Tesco? I doubt it, men do this with us because they think they can get away with it. If he can't afford you tell him to go elsewhere.

Pretty sure there are plenty of clients who would book you at your full rate and pay it. It's clear from your posts you aren't keen on the idea so please don't force yourself. Block him and book in a nice guy who understands you set your rate, no one else. X
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« Reply #24 on: 03 March 2016, 09:59:40 am »
I was surprised yesterday to notice a local agency I worked for 6yrs ago still charging 650 for overnights. They take a cut of ?150 so there are women out there who will work for that & less.

Depends what the guy earns but that is a lot of money when you think about it, 2/3 weeks wages for some people. A week away abroad etc. So he may not think he is taking the piss by undercutting you. 15 hours is too long though. If he's one of those sappy pestering types then there may not be sinister motives behind his price offering & some people don't see anything wrong with negotiating etc. Depends how much you want the money & if you can handle x amount of hours of time with that person.

I did an overnight several years ago & I think we only had sex 3 times over 4 hours or less & that includes the morning after. Most of it was talking so it was easy money but he wanted to stay up all night but I demanded sleep.

I think another thing to take into perspective too is how often do these long booking come around. If you can get your usual rate a couple of times a month or so then that's great.

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« Reply #25 on: 03 March 2016, 10:10:32 am »
Hi I did an overnight for ?500 but it didn't start till 10pm,I also had food,wine and breakfast bought and left for 8.30am so didn't think it was too bad.At the end of the day it's upto you what you feel is right.Good luck x

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« Reply #26 on: 03 March 2016, 10:30:56 am »
I was surprised yesterday to notice a local agency I worked for 6yrs ago still charging 650 for overnights. They take a cut of ?150 so there are women out there who will work for that & less.

Depends what the guy earns but that is a lot of money when you think about it, 2/3 weeks wages for some people. A week away abroad etc. So he may not think he is taking the piss by undercutting you. 15 hours is too long though. If he's one of those sappy pestering types then there may not be sinister motives behind his price offering & some people don't see anything wrong with negotiating etc. Depends how much you want the money & if you can handle x amount of hours of time with that person.

I don't think anybody's denying that different people charge different rates, but the point is that even if the OP was charging 300 quid for an overnight, this bloke would be trying to get it for 200.

To not only tell her that he should pay her significantly less than her rate for significantly more hours but that she should think herself lucky to get it makes him the sort of cunt I wouldn't want to spend ten minutes with, let alone 15 hours.

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« Reply #27 on: 03 March 2016, 12:01:19 pm »
I have said to him I have given it a lot of thought and that I am not happy getting 650 for a 15 hours booking, I said thats around 43 an hour! I said I am willing to do the overnight booking but only if I get there for around 8 or if you arent happy with that then I will just come for a few hours in the evening and then leave and drive home. He has agreed to me getting there for around 8. He said something to me like well I want to spend more time with you, I said well you are still going to get around 12 hours! The thing is its not often I get offered to do an overnight and I wouldnt do an overnight with just anyone and only regulars. If I do it then I know I am guaranteed to get 650 next week but  I am not willing to to do 15 hours for 650, there is a line.

Thanks for all the replies x

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« Reply #28 on: 03 March 2016, 01:02:41 pm »
Amy, if you have reached a compromise that you are happy with, that's fine. But please count the money at the start and make sure it's still in your bag when you leave!

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« Reply #29 on: 03 March 2016, 01:20:08 pm »
It doesn't matter what any of us think, it's what you think that matters.

If you think it's too low, then it's too low.