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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Amy1984 on 02 March 2016, 05:21:41 pm
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Hi all,
I need some advice about something. A regular client of mine wants me for an overnight booking next wednesday from around 5 in the afternoon until the morning. The thing is he is only offering me 650 for the overnight booking and I feel that is quite low, I dont know what others think? Out of the money I will be paying for my travelling expenses so in theory I will ge getting 630. I normally charge around 800 for overnight so I feel I am getting below my rate. He is only paying me for 6 hours but yet he will be getting me for 15 hours. I could do with the money as work has been really slow for me but at the same time he is paying well below my rate. I was wondering what others would do if they were me?
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I charge 650 for overnights (8000 crowns in the local currency), but the value of long bookings is much lower here than in the UK it seem. 15 hours for that money seems excessive though, I cap my overnight meetings to 12 tops, and that includes 6-7 hours of sleep. So I'd probably nope out, he is trying it on.
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Refuse unless he's paying your going rate, regular or not that's not your rate.
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It has to be an amount you are comfortable with.
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Thanks for the replies. Well 650 sounds nice money but not for 15 hours! I have worked it out and its around 43 for an hour which is very low. I dont mind going to see him for a couple of hours but 650 for an overnight booking sounds low when a lot of girls would charge at least 1000 for overnight. He said 650 is all he can afford.
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If you sleep 7-8 hours from 15, eat and chat for 1-2 hours, that will be 6 hours of sex, chat, massage, maybe another meal, etc. which in my opinion is not bad.
I would do the overnight if the regular was a nice guy and I would discuss what he expects from me.
Of course, this is only my opinion xx
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You set your rate, not him.
If he can't afford the overnight rate, he had better either:
a) save up his pennies until he can!
b) book someone cheaper who he can afford;
c) let you work out how much time 650 will buy. You could offer him, say, 8 hours for that amount, or whatever you are comfortable with.
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I'd want about a grand for 15 hours, I can imagine that long would be incredibly draining regular or not plus you might not be able to work the next day.
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Hi Kendall,
Yes I agree with you. He is not the most talkative guy in the world. He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250. I have done an overnight with him before and he paid me much more than 650 and he also woke me up around 5 in the morning as he felt horny and wanted sex and I felt knackered the next day. I happened to be on tour at the time and I had to spend some of the day sleeping as I was really knackered. He said to me that he knows girls that do an overnight for 650 and thats what he offered me, I said well I dont know any that do it for that and I believe I am worth more.
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Yep. Most importantly, you're not comfortable with it.
If you're not sleeping somewhere separate, it's unlikely you'll get much rest.
Can you get back home late at night? If so, consider offering him the afternoon and the evening. If he wants the night / morning as well, his price needs to reflect that you can't do other bookings the next day as well as the additional hours.
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I don't think 15 hours is a normal overnight time anyway.Overnights are generally between 10 or 12 hours long.I used to charge around 500 for a 10 hour overnight but it was expected that we did have a meal and some sleep.I'd possibly consider doing the overnighter for 650 but tell him you will be starting at say 8pm and leaving at 8am and you would be expecting dinner as well.If your normal overnight rate is 800 then maybe offer him less time on the overnight than you would normally do.It also depends on what he is like as a client.
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He is taking the Micheal, playing on the fact you need the money. I'd stick to your rate as well as cutting down the hours, making sure you have agreed 'rest hours'.
Or quote the number of hours you feel comfortable doing for the price. I rarely do overnights since I can't sleep at all with a stranger in my bed. When I do its 8 or 10 hours.
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I find the way he is talking to you quite off though in fairness.He really is pushing you to do it for cheaper.If he had maybe said 'I'd love to spend a long time with you and I have 650 what could you do for that?'Then I personally would have worked something out with him but him saying things like lots of girls do overnights cheaper etc and making a big deal about it being slow makes him sound quite manipulative and crass.Yes alot of girls do overnights cheaper but alot don't and that's that.
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Yes 15 hours is a bit longer than the usual overnight booking. I was willing to do the overnight booking from say 8 in the evening till 8 the next day but when we spoke today he said he would like me to get there for in the afternoon, at first he said around 2.30 in the afternoon.
We said about getting something to eat but he didnt mention dinner, he just said you can have room service if you like. Yes I could drive home in the evening if I wanted to. I did think about doing an outcall to him for say 2 or 3 hours. For that I would be getting a few hundred but at least I would be getting my rate. I am really undecided what to do lol.
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He's a piss-taker and you will be so knackered you'll be unable to work for possibly two days.
Your rate is your rate. The end.
X
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You are a business not a charity, put your foot down.
Tell him these are your rates and these are the hours that cover those rates, if he does not like it, I would suggest he finds someone else.
If you give in it will only make him think he can abuse his power as a punter because he assumes you need the money, I would be insulted.
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He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250.
Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.
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I don't do overnights but as you are obviously uncomfortable with the length of booking and the amount HE wants to pay I'd say renegotiate the length of booking and confirm a proper evening meal outside the hotel room. It sounds to me like he has it in his mind you will be surviving on peanuts and pop.
?650 would be acceptable for 8-9 hours but not 15.
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Hi Kendall,
Yes I agree with you. He is not the most talkative guy in the world. He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250. I have done an overnight with him before and he paid me much more than 650 and he also woke me up around 5 in the morning as he felt horny and wanted sex and I felt knackered the next day. I happened to be on tour at the time and I had to spend some of the day sleeping as I was really knackered. He said to me that he knows girls that do an overnight for 650 and thats what he offered me, I said well I dont know any that do it for that and I believe I am worth more.
He sounds like an entitled piece of shit, tell him to take his ?650 and go bore another girl for 15 hours
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I'd agree that's more than a normal overnight. I'd say e.g. that for 650 I'd have my own dinner, join him at 9pm, and go again at 9am.
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He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250.
Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.
Yep my thoughts too.
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He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250.
Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.
Yep my thoughts too.
And mine too!
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Red flag right there. If he somehow knows that work is slow and genuinely wants to help you out he would offer MORE than your normal rate, not less.
He is a chancer trying to manipulate you. Very bad sign. Please don't be pushed into doing something you don't want to do. You'll only feel cheated about it later.
Yep my thoughts too.
And mine. I don't do overnights, but regardless of actual figures if somebody decided that he'd offer me a fraction of my usual fee and simultaneously expect me to work more hours for it (and what sort of overnight starts at 5pm and doesn't factor a proper meal in 15 hours?) I wouldn't just be turning him down, I'd be blocking his number.
If there are lots of people happy to do these hours for this rate, I'd very nicely encourage him to book one of them instead. If you really want the money I'd go with the posters who suggested renegotiating the time and leaving at the end of the evening, but watch any drinks you have like a hawk. There was a twat around a few years ago who used to book for 2 or three hours and add extra alcohol to drinks so the women he'd booked couldn't drive back and were stranded (and naturally 'had to' stay over ::)).
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Hi Kendall,
Yes I agree with you. He is not the most talkative guy in the world. He said to me something like if you are finding work slow then you could do with an extra 650. I would normally charge 900 for an outcall overnight so I am losing 250. I have done an overnight with him before and he paid me much more than 650 and he also woke me up around 5 in the morning as he felt horny and wanted sex and I felt knackered the next day. I happened to be on tour at the time and I had to spend some of the day sleeping as I was really knackered. He said to me that he knows girls that do an overnight for 650 and thats what he offered me, I said well I dont know any that do it for that and I believe I am worth more.
The "if you're finding work low" is a typical boundary pusher cheap skate response don't fall for it. I've had guys try and haggle my overnights and say if I am not getting any bookings less money is better than no money, to which I said no thanks and explained I'm not short of bookings so don't need to cheapen myself. If you are not comfortable with it don't do it, you set your rate as someone said. Would be start haggling his weekly shopping at Tesco? I doubt it, men do this with us because they think they can get away with it. If he can't afford you tell him to go elsewhere.
Pretty sure there are plenty of clients who would book you at your full rate and pay it. It's clear from your posts you aren't keen on the idea so please don't force yourself. Block him and book in a nice guy who understands you set your rate, no one else. X
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I was surprised yesterday to notice a local agency I worked for 6yrs ago still charging 650 for overnights. They take a cut of ?150 so there are women out there who will work for that & less.
Depends what the guy earns but that is a lot of money when you think about it, 2/3 weeks wages for some people. A week away abroad etc. So he may not think he is taking the piss by undercutting you. 15 hours is too long though. If he's one of those sappy pestering types then there may not be sinister motives behind his price offering & some people don't see anything wrong with negotiating etc. Depends how much you want the money & if you can handle x amount of hours of time with that person.
I did an overnight several years ago & I think we only had sex 3 times over 4 hours or less & that includes the morning after. Most of it was talking so it was easy money but he wanted to stay up all night but I demanded sleep.
I think another thing to take into perspective too is how often do these long booking come around. If you can get your usual rate a couple of times a month or so then that's great.
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Hi I did an overnight for ?500 but it didn't start till 10pm,I also had food,wine and breakfast bought and left for 8.30am so didn't think it was too bad.At the end of the day it's upto you what you feel is right.Good luck x
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I was surprised yesterday to notice a local agency I worked for 6yrs ago still charging 650 for overnights. They take a cut of ?150 so there are women out there who will work for that & less.
Depends what the guy earns but that is a lot of money when you think about it, 2/3 weeks wages for some people. A week away abroad etc. So he may not think he is taking the piss by undercutting you. 15 hours is too long though. If he's one of those sappy pestering types then there may not be sinister motives behind his price offering & some people don't see anything wrong with negotiating etc. Depends how much you want the money & if you can handle x amount of hours of time with that person.
I don't think anybody's denying that different people charge different rates, but the point is that even if the OP was charging 300 quid for an overnight, this bloke would be trying to get it for 200.
To not only tell her that he should pay her significantly less than her rate for significantly more hours but that she should think herself lucky to get it makes him the sort of cunt I wouldn't want to spend ten minutes with, let alone 15 hours.
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I have said to him I have given it a lot of thought and that I am not happy getting 650 for a 15 hours booking, I said thats around 43 an hour! I said I am willing to do the overnight booking but only if I get there for around 8 or if you arent happy with that then I will just come for a few hours in the evening and then leave and drive home. He has agreed to me getting there for around 8. He said something to me like well I want to spend more time with you, I said well you are still going to get around 12 hours! The thing is its not often I get offered to do an overnight and I wouldnt do an overnight with just anyone and only regulars. If I do it then I know I am guaranteed to get 650 next week but I am not willing to to do 15 hours for 650, there is a line.
Thanks for all the replies x
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Amy, if you have reached a compromise that you are happy with, that's fine. But please count the money at the start and make sure it's still in your bag when you leave!
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It doesn't matter what any of us think, it's what you think that matters.
If you think it's too low, then it's too low.
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Thanks for the replies. Well 650 sounds nice money but not for 15 hours! I have worked it out and its around 43 for an hour which is very low. I dont mind going to see him for a couple of hours but 650 for an overnight booking sounds low when a lot of girls would charge at least 1000 for overnight. He said 650 is all he can afford.
If ?650 is all he can afford then he needs to go back to those escorts that he has seen before and pay them ?650
If you agree i would say 9pm -9am and you want ?700 I mean if he is happy to negotiate your price then so can you