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xprincesspx

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HELP!!!
« on: 17 April 2012, 03:03:50 pm »
Hi Girlies,

Needing some advice/help with a dilema.

Before i start this topic i would like everyone to know that i am in no way ,shape or form racist or have any problems with people from any walk of life and do not want to offend anyone at all

The thing is i seem to be having the same occuring problems with a certain type of "race" first of all the ask for sex without a condom and will pay extra which i ALWAYS say no to, then when we are about to have sex they sneak the condom off and try to do it anyway, also this particular race are always very rude to me and sometimes i think they are about to get violent x

Now this isnt a one-off but have happened with most of the clients i have seen with this race and i walk away feeling dirty and horrible about myself

I would never offend anyone by putting " no ***** " on my a/w or anything but a im working indie now i was thinking i could maybe screen thm out

what does everyone thing, honest opinions are welcome xxx


thanks,
Poppy xxx
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« Reply #1 on: 17 April 2012, 03:12:06 pm »
I don't suppose this "race" is asian by any chance is it? If so there are plenty of threads about asian clients on here already. I know it's difficult not to tar everyone with the same brush when you've had bad experiences but be very careful. You're on shaky ground. I?m aware of what happened to you a few days ago (and you have my full sympathies) and I suspect, understandably, this has a lot to with this post. If you had experienced the assault by a white guy, or had a few bad experiences in the past with white men, would you now be here asking how to screen out all men from the Caucasian race? I think your problem is you?ve had the misfortune to encounter wankers, who by the sound of things, would still be wankers even if they were to be white, blue, yellow or pink. 
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #2 on: 17 April 2012, 03:15:51 pm »
I would never offend anyone by putting " no ***** " on my a/w or anything but a im working indie now i was thinking i could maybe screen thm out

Which let?s be fair is exactly the same thing. Don?t see the point of saying ?all welcome? if on the phone you?re going to be trying to suss out which ethnic minority they fall into and then dismissing them if they're not the type of gents you want?

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« Reply #3 on: 17 April 2012, 03:16:18 pm »
I wasnt sure if i could say the paricular race on here,

im gonna have a look through the threads and see what everyones saying xxx


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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #4 on: 17 April 2012, 05:19:21 pm »
Hello P
What should be Important to you is your security , need to feel at ease and of course proud of this job at any particular booking
By no road would I think this is racist.If past experience says they are always trouble, I would stay clear .You can make it easier and mention it on profile or pick up on it when they ring to make a booking,but the only downside to this is not all have the accent to pick up on.
Stay safe and do what your gut Instinct tell you as you deserve the utter best
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« Reply #5 on: 17 April 2012, 05:23:03 pm »
Lots of girls on aw do put on their profiles, no black or asian.
It's a personal choice, and bad experiences can make you really vunerable towards a certain amount of race, I've had bad experiences with black men, but one black man was amazing and didn't want no dodgy services. I've never had any problems with asians, and the majority i've problems with have actually been white men.
But if you don't want to see a certain race of men, thats YOUR personal choice, and it doesn't make you a racist in the slightest!  :) You might miss out on a few amazing people from that race, but your state of mind will probley be better :D

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« Reply #6 on: 17 April 2012, 05:23:52 pm »
I've had mixed experiences with asian men, some have been lovely but a few have been quite disprespectful. I think it is more noticable with the asian men because I see less, so the percentage of 'bad ones' is higher when I compare that to the white men that I see. I don't think I've explained that too well, but I hope it makes sense.
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« Reply #7 on: 17 April 2012, 05:29:00 pm »
I'm sorry, but discriminating against (or for) people for no reason other than their ethnic background is the dictionary definition of racism, and all that is being discussed here is whether or not the word 'racist' is definitely pejorative or insulting, and if racial discrimination is sometimes acceptable (and why this might be the case - obviously whom anybody has sex with must always be their personal choice, and if they want to write off large numbers of people because of their skin colour or cultural background that is entirely up to them).

Saying 'all x are y', no matter what the context is always going to get people's backs up. I suggest a read through this thread (which we had to lock because it got so offensive and ridiculous). If this one starts turning into anything like it, it'll be gone faster than my overdraft in a Chanel flash sale.

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« Reply #8 on: 17 April 2012, 05:33:59 pm »
I had a read at this thread amy and can see how it may be deemed as a bit offensive, But i hope i havent offended anyone, I was looking for anyone elses stories as such just a bit of info on how to manage the situation best as im quite new, thats why i havent mentioned the nationality i was meaning x

thanks tho xxx
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« Reply #9 on: 17 April 2012, 05:35:17 pm »
 ;D A
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Re: HELP!!!
« Reply #10 on: 17 April 2012, 05:54:53 pm »
I had a read at this thread amy and can see how it may be deemed as a bit offensive, But i hope i havent offended anyone, I was looking for anyone elses stories as such just a bit of info on how to manage the situation best as im quite new, thats why i havent mentioned the nationality i was meaning x

thanks tho xxx

That's OK, but unfortunately bad punters come in all shapes and sizes - the most important thing you can learn is confidence and assertiveness in dealing with people who don't treat you with courtesy and respect. If you have ten Asian punters visit and nine of them are rude or nasty, ask that nine to leave, but welcome the other. If you have ten white (or black, or green) punters visit and nine of them act like arseholes, ditto. It's a massive learning curve, and there's no doubt that making simplistic assumptions about people does cut out a lot of the hassle but you'll miss out on some really nice clients, and they will miss out on you too :).

On the other hand, if you do definitely decide that there is ANY group of people (whether it's age, ethnicity or whatever) you don't want to see, do make it clear in your advertising - punters don't want to see ladies who don't want to see them and they'd rather you did this. I've met some lovely men who've travelled all over the place (one for over an hour and a half) to visit ladies they'd been looking forward to seeing, only to have the door shut in their faces as soon as it opened.

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« Reply #11 on: 17 April 2012, 06:15:28 pm »
Amy i really get what you mean, As i actually have a regular from this race who is adorable. But even when its someone who im not fond of i always make sure im pleasant and they have a great time as i would hate to make anyone uncomfortable x

Uck im just new and ill learn things in time xxxx


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« Reply #12 on: 17 April 2012, 06:25:10 pm »
Amy i really get what you mean, As i actually have a regular from this race who is adorable. But even when its someone who im not fond of i always make sure im pleasant and they have a great time as i would hate to make anyone uncomfortable x

Uck im just new and ill learn things in time xxxx
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Well having learned what we have about the agency you were with it's amazing you had any nice clients at all. For what it's worth, the only punters I've ever had to remove from my premises, the only client who ever attacked and robbed me and the vast majority of the ones who have been rude, pushy, smelly or otherwise less than ideal have been white middle aged men.

I agree (as Cora said, I think) that because clients in a minority group stand out more we tend to remember things about them (and I remember being fascinated by the first punter I met who was wearing a turban because I didn't know whether he was going to take it off or not and I'd never really seen one before :D) but eventually you'll find that nice ads and cutthroat screening (which is no more complicated than refusing to see anybody you don't like the sound/approach of) will get you all kinds of nice clients :).

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« Reply #13 on: 17 April 2012, 06:38:35 pm »
If you have ten Asian punters visit and nine of them are rude or nasty, ask that nine to leave, but welcome the other. If you have ten white (or black, or green) punters visit and nine of them act like arseholes, ditto.

I strongly agree with this. If a man is disrespectful then ask him to leave. We should only judge on the individual.

I have had many black and asian clients (I'm based in London). Quite a few of them have experienced getting turned away at the door because of their skin colour and have expressed to me how awful they felt about themselves not just for that day, but for quite a long time afterwards. That's something to think about.

In addition, and I don't know if other ladies have found this to be true, but I find that the clients who have experienced this discrimination tend to be the most appreciative and respectful when you do see them and you say to them that skin colour doesn't matter one bit to you because you're more concerned with them as a human being. Watching them suddenly relax is very satisfying on a personal level. I like that feeling. Some of my best regulars came about this way.

Something else to bear in mind, is that quite a few clients (of any race) may decide not to see you if they think you're a racist and they sympathise with the guys you're refusing to see (I have been told this many times by my own clients).
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« Reply #14 on: 17 April 2012, 06:48:40 pm »
You explained it much better than I could Amy :)

The bottom line is it really doesn't matter what the colour of their skin is, if they are clean and respectful then value them as a client and if they are not then ask them to leave.

If someone thinks they can get away with pushing the boundaries then they are more likely to try it.. I was very regularly asked for bareback (by all races) until I added an FAQ to my profile that says I WILL NOT offer bareback, since adding that to my profile I get asked for bareback once in a blue moon and only ever over the phone, I havn't had anyone try to push their luck during a meet.  :)
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