Author Topic: From Portugal to UK? (Read 2523 times)

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #15 on:** 21 May 2023, 11:02:32 am »

UPDATE (after a lot of thinking & worrying... ):

- My plan probably consists of taking frequent flights back and forward from the UK to Portugal! The cost is quite affordable and so I'd have the opportunity to carry not too much cash every time, and also relax here when I feel I need to!

Flo · « **Reply #16 on:** 21 May 2023, 11:43:29 am »

Good luck Cuddly, I hope you enjoy your trips

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #17 on:** 21 May 2023, 02:03:11 pm »

Quote from: Flo on 21 May 2023, 11:43:29 am

Good luck Cuddly, I hope you enjoy your trips

Dear Flo, how nice of you to send me wishes...
I'm sure I will enjoy it while in UK, even though I understand it will be not always "a piece of cake"...
Who knows, we might even meet you & I!

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 May 2023, 08:46:28 am »

Good morning to you all!!
I hope I'm not exploiting your patience and sympathy!
So far, here, instead of contributing with my stories, I seem to have only asked for help and advice, please do not consider me a pain-in-the-ass, I promise to reciprocate in due time, as soon as I get to your country!
Anyway, yesterday I received an email I'd like to ask you about...
After having applied for a fairly important and well reputed London agency, they told me I'd be suitable and that they assure me plenty of opportunities, ... but their commission on any of my services (even the longer appointments and travels... ) is... 50%!!!!
I frankly consider that a mere theft, don't you agree??
Does anyone here know any more reasonable agency, one who takes much less but still offers impeccable service?
I know it's much better to be independent (so far, that has been always my approach), but to start with in a country I'm not familiar with, perhaps relying on an agent isn't a bad idea, right?

Greta72 · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 May 2023, 11:07:57 am »

Quote from: Cuddly555 on 22 May 2023, 08:46:28 am

Good morning to you all!!
I hope I'm not exploiting your patience and sympathy!
So far, here, instead of contributing with my stories, I seem to have only asked for help and advice, please do not consider me a pain-in-the-ass, I promise to reciprocate in due time, as soon as I get to your country!
Anyway, yesterday I received an email I'd like to ask you about...
After having applied for a fairly important and well reputed London agency, they told me I'd be suitable and that they assure me plenty of opportunities, ... but their commission on any of my services (even the longer appointments and travels... ) is... 50%!!!!
I frankly consider that a mere theft, don't you agree??
Does anyone here know any more reasonable agency, one who takes much less but still offers impeccable service?
I know it's much better to be independent (so far, that has been always my approach), but to start with in a country I'm not familiar with, perhaps relying on an agent isn't a bad idea, right?

A thought on this: I hope your efforts that you work in the UK, will be successful. I understand that you want to rely on an agency, in an unknown country. But since you don't have a work permit, you don't have an NI number either. (NI: national insurance number) Without this, I don't think you will find an agency to legally employ you. If they " plenty of opportunities" illegally, what is the guarantee that your money will be paid fairly?

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 May 2023, 11:22:59 am »

Quote from: Greta72 on 22 May 2023, 11:07:57 am

But since you don't have a work permit, you don't have an NI number either. (NI: national insurance number) Without this, I don't think you will find an agency to legally employ you. If they " plenty of opportunities" illegally, what is the guarantee that your money will be paid fairly?

Dear Greta, your doubts are probably justified... perhaps that's why they'd take 50% and didn't ask for any working permit or NI number....

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 May 2023, 02:46:52 pm »

I'm well aware that I'm risking to be too monotonous and quite boring... and, if so, please forgive me, friends!

It's just that, not only I'm trying to end my "lurking phase" here, but, mainly, spending very long hours on this amazing site, I'm learning quite a lot about the dynamics of our profession in UK, some of which I find quite peculiar...
As a friendly user just wrote me privately yesterday, this is an "authentic goldmine"... true, let's hope my digging gets me very well informed!

amy · « **Reply #22 on:** 22 May 2023, 03:40:25 pm »

Agencies don't legally employ anybody (or legally do anything else, since they're illegal operations); it's you who hires them and pays them to find you work, and you remain self employed.

What they (and any decent parlour/brothel) might well want to see is proof that you're legally allowed to work in the UK, and if you're not then they won't want you as it means they can get into even more trouble than they can just for straightforward pimping.

If they don't care, then have a think about the sort of people who are happy to take those sorts of risks and what else they might not care about.

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 May 2023, 04:27:54 pm »

Quote from: amy on 22 May 2023, 03:40:25 pm

If they don't care, then have a think about the sort of people who are happy to take those sorts of risks and what else they might not care about.

Amy, as usually, your intervention makes a lot of sense!
I was aware that while prostitution is perfectly legal in UK, so-called "pimping" is a crime.
But, frankly, if they offer me to provide a decent clientele and only ask for a (fair) commission in return, why should I worry if it's a risky business for 'em?
As you rightly ponted out, I'd remain self-employed even if I accept their services, and be totally in charge of my choices,

amy · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 May 2023, 04:45:38 pm »

Quote from: Cuddly555 on 22 May 2023, 04:27:54 pm

But, frankly, if they offer me to provide a decent clientele and only ask for a (fair) commission in return, why should I worry if it's a risky business for 'em?

I wasn't suggesting for a second anybody here should care about the wellbeing of pimps, but it's a good idea to care about your own. Having somebody choose your clients who has a vested interest in you doing as many bookings as possible because that's how they get paid, is not somebody who will be fussy as to who those clients are.

See also:
https://saafe.info/main/questions-and-answers/possible-arguments-for-wanting-to-work-for-agency-rather-than-independent/
https://saafe.info/main/blather-and-babble/my-personal-bad-experiences-with-agencies/

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 May 2023, 05:23:52 pm »

Quote from: amy on 22 May 2023, 04:45:38 pm

Having somebody choose your clients who has a vested interest in you doing as many bookings as possible because that's how they get paid, is not somebody who will be fussy as to who those clients are.

Well, Amy, in my case, I'd make quite clear my boundaries, especially regarding the number of daily/weekly appointments and their lenght!
From the initial contacts with a couple of "HR" Agencies, they seem to have understood that I'll favour overnights/travels/events to the basic one-hour meetings, and they agreed on promoting mainly them...
If they don't comply, I won't hesitate to refuse their services!!

amy · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 May 2023, 10:19:26 am »

And obviously the nice friendly pimps will respect everything you tell them and hold your boundaries in the highest regard. Can I interest you in a bridge I'm selling?

I'm not trying to be a pain, but you do seem to have got the idea that everybody is going to just nod and quietly fall in line with whatever you have to say, and they won't. If you stick to your guns, all that will happen is they'll give the bookings to somebody who does whatever and sees whoever they're told without argument, and not to you.

You do realise that an 'HR agency' is generally a massage parlour (with a few exceptions who do outcalls for massage/HR)? They don't tend to be that big on overnights and events.

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 May 2023, 10:20:57 am »

Well, to keep updated who's interested in any development of my incoming adventure, I'd like to reiterate that I'd do anything in my power to avoid being "slaved" by any intermediate while in London.
Still I must admit that the proposals I've just received by two Agencies seem quite promising.. I might put 'em to the test without any obbligation or compromise of mine, and then decide whether to continue with 'em or cut any further contacts!!
I'd like also to inform you that I'm planning to make "fishing" in the Lobby or Bar of a posh 5* Hotel where the wealthiest visitors to London use to stay, an integral part of my activities...
My feeling is that I might be quite successful there...

Does anybody disagree?? $:-\$

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 May 2023, 10:28:32 am »

Quote from: amy on 23 May 2023, 10:19:26 am

You do realise that an 'HR agency' is generally a massage parlour (with a few exceptions who do outcalls for massage/HR)? They don't tend to be that big on overnights and events.

Thanks again dear Amy for caring so much about my safety!
I'll always take in my mind everything you just explained!
But now I must clear that, not knowing well some english expressions, I mistakenly used the acronym «HR» thinking it meant «High Rating» or something similar, certainly not a «Massage Parlour»... the two agencies I spoke to are among the most reputed and "exclusive" apparently...

Cuddly555 · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 May 2023, 10:43:50 am »

Quote from: amy on 23 May 2023, 10:19:26 am

Can I interest you in a bridge I'm selling?

Sure, Amy, I might be quite interested indeed...
But, before we seal a deal, let's wait and see if I make some easy cash in London, in order to pay for your bridge, OK?

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