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SimplySinful

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #150 on: 09 April 2017, 07:39:49 pm »
OMG I really hope so Bexy! I opted to show my wg name, I don't remember that being an option for real name but I could be wrong.

Anyway I decided not to go down that road for deposits just in case

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #151 on: 10 April 2017, 08:00:22 am »
I've just had a trawl through their T&Cs and they don't specifically prohibit adult services in the same way that Paypal do, but I guess they could use this term to cancel your account if they wanted.
"any other matters which we communicate to you that are unacceptable from time to time and which, for example, may be restricted by our and your payment partners."

It does say though that if they close your account and you have funds in there, you'll be able to withdraw them but may be subject to identity checks. So if you sign up under your work alias, this would be impossible.

This does look like a good system though and I'm going to test it out.
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joanna0300

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #152 on: 15 June 2017, 01:27:36 pm »
Wow! Does anyone have any updates on this? Seems pretty terrible, although I've only had money sent from a punter I've at least already met, but still, horrific.

SimplySinful

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #153 on: 15 June 2017, 01:51:45 pm »
Wow! Does anyone have any updates on this? Seems pretty terrible, although I've only had money sent from a punter I've at least already met, but still, horrific.

I'd like to know for sure, I know other ladies who insist the real name isn't shown, and someone else said it's a defunct T&C for the American market not the UK. I did use it once on a London tour when I was asking for deposits for someone uncomfortable with doing a bank deposit.

The only real way to check is I guess to ask the client if they could see my real name but for obvious reasons felt I couldn't do that...

SimplySinful

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #154 on: 21 June 2017, 07:18:30 pm »
Ok this is a warning about Circle.com. I have only used a few times, last time weeks ago.

All of a sudden today I have an email saying this:

We have noticed activities on your account that are restricted by Circle. These are activities that we do not support, and because you violated these conditions, we will no longer offer you service. This is all highlighted in Sections 17 and 18 of our User Agreement, which detail Restricted Activities and Prohibited Payments.

You can also refer to our support article on User Agreement violations for examples of these prohibited activities.


Well its weeks since I used it. I can only think not using my real name has led them to my Sexwork persona.

I'm thinking its this under their 'Restricted Activities' (really not sure this T&C was there previously or not)

upload, display or transmit any messages, photos, videos or other media that contain illegal goods, pornographic, violent, obscene or copyrighted images or materials for use as an avatar, in connection with a payment or payment request, or otherwise.

This is not good, not really sure what to do about it, whether to challenge them?
« Last Edit: 21 June 2017, 07:22:02 pm by SimplySinful »

SimplySinful

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #155 on: 21 June 2017, 07:44:42 pm »
And just found out Circle are closing accounts right left and centre. That T & C is a new one to enable them to do this

So Circle.com is no longer an option

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #156 on: 22 June 2017, 02:22:53 am »
I meant to come back to this sooner.

I did in fact phone circle.com in their London office again to clarify what information exactly was shown to another Circle user (even though I had tested the system myself by opening an account in my name and another in my hubby's, I then sent some money from my account to his and ticked the option to show only an email address to other Circle users, when I sent him the money that was all that showed both ends, all I seen was his email address and his mine). When I spoke to them the 2nd time (in fact both times) I was re-assured that what was shown was whatever option I had chosen.

However because of what was written here (after my 1st phone call to them) I then rang them (a 2nd time) and thanked him for his re-assurance but explained this is on their website's T&C's:

"Privacy Policy:

Your Identity & Photo. In order for other Circle users to transact with you (sending money, receiving money, requesting money, etc.) they will be able to see your full legal name. "


I also emailed them a link to it and also a screen grab, (which they asked for). However I see they have NOT updated their terminology re this via their site and I spoke to them a couple of months ago or so.

So to recap, despite what is written above (& remains on their website as of today's date) your LEGAL name is NOT revealed to anyone, only circle.com (unless you choose to of course) -----  So basically the above is inaccurate/out of date information.

If anyone is concerned, then I suggest you do what I did, try it for yourself. The App is free to download so doesnt cost you anything. I opened an account on my phone in my name and did the same for my hubby on his phone, I then transferred a nominal amount to his account, neither of us could see each other's real names (just an email address).

Also that User Agreement shows it was last updated 21 March this year.

SS you say you may broken their rules by using an inappropriate image of your Avatar, that 'rule' has been there some time (as I read it before March as well). Perhaps just phone them and enquire, the number on their website is 01793 250273 (9 to 5 hrs UK time I think). I found them friendly & approachable, if it is to do with your Avatar pic they may have just suspended your account (even though they say you can longer use their service) if they realize it was a mis-understanding on your part they may re-instate your account and even if they don't at least you will find out why! But if it is something like the Av pic then you may just get a gentle slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.

I must admit I try to remain as low-key as possible so I don't even bother with any type of Avatar, even of my cat!

Boleyn Models daily pay people use them to pay webcam/phone chat performers so I don't understand how they cannot be adult friendly.

Below are 16 & 17 Restrictions you referred to, in case any one else wants to see them. (Oh I notice that their email to you states 17 & 18... yet 18 relates to Bitcoin?! -- am assuming they mean 16 & 17 so I've put that below, anyone who wants to read it directly from their site, just has to google "circle.com user agreement").

16. Restricted Activities

In connection with your use of Services, you hereby agree that you will not:

    violate (or assist any other party in violating) any applicable law, statute, ordinance, or regulation;
    intentionally try to defraud (or assist in the defrauding of) Circle or other Circle users;
    provide false, inaccurate, or misleading information;
    take any action that interferes with, intercepts, or expropriates any system, data, or information;
    partake in any transaction involving the proceeds of illegal activity;
    transmit or upload any virus, worm, or other malicious software or program;
    attempt to gain unauthorised access to other Circle accounts, the Circle website, or any related networks or systems;
    use the Services on behalf of any third party or otherwise act as an intermediary between Circle and any third parties;
    collect any user information from other Circle users, including, without limitation, email addresses;
    defame, harass, or violate the privacy or intellectual property rights of Circle or any other Circle users; or
    upload, display or transmit any messages, photos, videos or other media that contain illegal goods, pornographic, violent, obscene or copyrighted images or materials for use as an avatar, in connection with a payment or payment request, or otherwise.

17. Prohibited Payments

Using the Services to make the following types of payments is prohibited, and Circle reserves the right to monitor for payments that relate to:

    any Restricted Persons or persons or entities located in Restricted Territories (as each term is defined in Section 30);
    weapons of any kind, including but not limited to firearms, ammunition, knives, or related accessories;
    controlled substances including but not limited to narcotics, prescription drugs, steroids, or related paraphernalia or accessories;
    gambling activities including but not limited to sports betting, casino games, horse racing, dog racing, lotteries, games of chance, sweepstakes, games of skill that may be classified as gambling (i.e. poker), or other activities that facilitate any of the foregoing;

We understand that gambling may be legal in your jurisdiction, but unfortunately we cannot allow you to use Circle in connection with these activities.

    constitute financial crime, money-laundering or terrorist financing;
    any sort of Ponzi scheme, pyramid scheme, or multi-level marketing program;
    goods or services that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, or proprietary rights under the laws of any jurisdiction or otherwise constitute counterfeit goods;
    debt settlement, refinance, or credit repair services;
    court ordered payments, structured settlements, tax payments, or tax settlements;
    the sale of money orders or cashier?s checks or any money transmitter activity;

Using Circle to send ?20 to one friend on behalf of another friend is okay, but if you are frequently accepting funds from people to send on their behalf, you might be violating money transmission laws - so we can?t allow that.

    lottery contracts, layaway systems, or annuities;
    counterfeit goods, including but not limited to fake or ?novelty? IDs;
    purchasing goods from Tor hidden service markets or ?Darknet? markets, or any other service or website that acts as a marketplace for illegal goods (even though such marketplace might also sell legal goods); or
    any other matters which we communicate to you that are unacceptable from time to time and which, for example, may be restricted by our and your payment partners.

In the event that Circle learns that you are making any such prohibited payments, Circle may suspend or terminate your Circle Account.

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #157 on: 22 June 2017, 03:46:53 am »
Well its weeks since I used it. I can only think not using my real name has led them to my Sexwork persona.

Ah only just noticed you said this, yes you do have to use your real/legal name to have an Account with them, they make that quite clear in the blurb and also on both occasions when I spoke to them they stated to have a Verified (fully functioning) account you have to use your legal name, however this shouldn't be an issue as they don't reveal it as I stated above.

I doubt if its to do with your sexwork persona and more to do with the fact you haven't Verified. Am not sure if they give a certain amount of time for someone to verify, (as I verified straightaway when I opened the account), but to make it clear they can't do business with anyone who uses a fake name.. its to do with KYC, money laundering and all that malarky, same as you get everywhere else.

P.S.

I said to the guy I spoke to.... now I'm verified I might just change my 1st name on the account (to an abbreviation of my full/real name) and he suggested not doing that just in case the system flags it up (as I had sent them ID in my real/full name & he said your better off just leaving it in the same name as the documentation you supplied, which I have --- in case its only ME that can see it (& circle of course) as other Circle users only see my email address.  :)


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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #158 on: 22 June 2017, 11:08:53 pm »
Have you considered asking them to send you paysafe voucher codes, you can use that for all your available today phone number etc ...

SimplySinful

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #159 on: 23 June 2017, 05:32:15 am »
Hi Bexy did you see this post after my one thinking it was just me being denied access and thinking it was about my working name? It's not.

And just found out Circle are closing accounts right left and centre. That T & C is a new one to enable them to do this

So Circle.com is no longer an option

What I'm saying is I've spoken to other working ladies and its a recent change.  Many of them are getting emails denying access.  One of the T&C is new since they've realised a lot us are using Circle...

I'm not sure when you spoke to them but if it was over a week or two ago I'd suggest not using it based on this.

There are warnings from other ladies on Twitter about Circle.

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #160 on: 01 August 2017, 10:01:18 pm »
Does anyone have any ideas for taking deposits for events? Having been messed about too much with people booking for the bukkakes I do then either not confirming on the day, or worse confirming and then not shown, I have now started asking for deposits.

But as not everyone is comfortable doing a bank transfer (and might not have the time to pay in branch), I am looking at other ways that I can take them. Due to the large numbers I would be hoping to have for these events, I don't want to take phone tops or amazon vouchers or any other method that doesn't involve actual cash. I have thought about Paypal but wary due to to the risk of them closing the account.

So if anyone has any ideas it would be really appreciated.

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #161 on: 01 August 2017, 10:09:42 pm »
I have signed up with IndieBill, primarily to sell my videos via them but they have a "Tribute" option which you could use to take a pre-payment. They are specifically set up for Indie providers and shows up with the name of the parent company on the credit card statement, which if googled will not lead you to Indiebill.
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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #162 on: 01 August 2017, 10:31:30 pm »
I have signed up with IndieBill, primarily to sell my videos via them but they have a "Tribute" option which you could use to take a pre-payment. They are specifically set up for Indie providers and shows up with the name of the parent company on the credit card statement, which if googled will not lead you to Indiebill.

Apart from a few very short clips on my phone I don't really have any content. But this looks good for those able to do more professional and longer clips.

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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #163 on: 29 January 2018, 06:19:28 pm »
I'm about to start doing outcalls for the first time and I've read on here one of the best way to deter TWs & keep myself safe is too ask for a deposit... sorry for the stupid question but how do I go about getting that deposit without meeting the client first? Is it bank transfer? Paypal? Won't that link back to my real identity? Sorry if this is painfully obvious! Appreciate all the tips and any extra helpful tidbits!  ;D
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Re: Deposits.
« Reply #164 on: 29 January 2018, 06:48:20 pm »
Adultworks credits. Or bank transfare they dont need your name just sort code and account number. X