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Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« on: 03 February 2009, 09:39:11 am »
Hi all

Feel a bit (well a lot but that's fairly normal for me) stressed out and just needing a bit if guidance.

How do you all cope when clients start to make you feel awkward/uncomfortable or begin affecting your life outside of escorting?

I mentioned in a previous thread about a client who has statred calling me by my real name without my permission. I haven't had a meeting with him since posting the thread so not had a chance to discuss it like was mostly suggested.
However i have arranged an overnight with him for the weekend and every text sent to arrange it seemed to have my real name dropped into it gratuitously even when there was no need for it. In the end i text him a final text and just put 'Colette xx' on the end hoping i would get the hint. He text back with Colette??? LOL xxx and that was it!

Now i feel really upset about it. I'm not even sure if I'm overreacting but i just feel manipulated by the whole thing even if its just in my head. Also this is a man with a lot of experience with escorts and he really should know better i feel.
The whole thing is getting a bit much. He always books overnight appointments which i hate doing to start with and i dread them coming around (even though its not too bad when i get there) I have to go to his house which is 45 mins drive from mine and i don't drive so once I'm there I'm stuck which doesn't help.I'm considering telling him that I'm no longer offering overnight appointments (i don't do them through agency cos as i said i don't like them) for personal reasons but even the thought of saying it stresses me out.

Basically i feel that hes trying to forge a relationship that i don't wish for. This is my job and i don't want to have the stress of worrying about my clients feelings or trying to second guess their actions and motivations. Its getting me down somewhat.

Sorry for the rambling nature of this post i just cant quite get my head together this morning. I'm going for a Valium and a lie down now.


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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #1 on: 03 February 2009, 10:06:29 am »
Colette

Recently I found myself in a similar situation.  Very similar infact.

I don't see the client anymore.  I decided for all the money in the world, my own sanity and well being is far more important.

It was a great money earner but similarly with yourself this client saw me as more than an escort.  He wanted to know the real "me".  I made the mistake of giving him information about my private life, which incidentally I do in many bookings just to pass the time, and I usually feel it is  just banter - about my child, or about my hobbies or what I do when am not working.

However, it got to the stage where I would get texts/calls mentioning the child constantly.  Texts were sent to me almost every other day.... requests for phone calls every weekend.    He wanted to chat to me at least once or twice a week.  I think he had good intentions but he just mistook what I was to him and would not respect my boundaries at all.

It got to the point where I literally had to spell it out in a harsh manner.  I said something to the effect of this "when I am with you I am Alex, I am not the other person and that is my other private world - please respect that" .  He did not and persisted. 

It got to the point where he became so intrigued by my private life and quizzed me so much about it that I became more and more elusive and less inclined to discuss it.  This had a detrimental effect and actually annoyed him. 

He then became abusive and made horrible references to my parental abilities, my escorting ability and more. 

I put a stop to the whole thing and refused to see him again.  I asked for no contact.  I received some nasty emails and texts to which I replied that I would inform the police and/or a third party to act on my behalf. 

I had heard no more from him and I can tell you that the weight has lifted off my shoulders a great deal.  It has taught me a lesson the hard way and I would urge you to think too.

If you don't like doing the overnight then don't do it! Simple.   Tell him you don't do overnights anymore.  Sure the money is good but what is more important at the end of the day. 

Remember - we have a choice.  I know it is hard when faced with the potential earnings but look at the headache and hassle this is causing you.  I know as I have been there and like you dreaded the meeting. 

You have to spell out to him that whilst working you are not ............  but you are Colette and you will only be referred to as Colette. 

So he has experience with escorts?  Sounds familiar to me as my chap said the same thing to me - he "knew a lot about escorting" - I said fine good luck to you. 

When I told him that calling me and texting me constantly was out of order, he begged to differ as he professed he knew more about escorting than I did. 

In the end I got fed up with the whole thing and kissed the money goodbye.  It's not worth the hassle at the end of the day. 

Alex


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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #2 on: 03 February 2009, 10:52:24 am »
i agree with alex, i think alot of escorts get trapped into feeling like they have no choice....when you do! in a 'normal' relationship with anyone we would not put up with half the shit we do in escorting world. i have told lots of guys goodbye.  at the time i thought to myself, hey its money i shouldnt do this, i need this money....but the thought of seeing them again turned my stomach, stressed me out, i would think about how much time i had spent already thinking and worrying and stressing about him....i have told many: "sorry i do not want to see you again". With the ones that just dont respect my wishes, i tell them they are banned and i will never answer their calls ever and to fuck off!

these men who behave like yours/alex's are just major manipulators-they get off on a softly softly approach of messing your head up...they get off on control and abuse of power....they get off on YOU getting upset!! they LOVE that! just think about it, doesnt that piss you off? its another form of grooming....just get OUT now and feel SO much better! Tell him goodbye and be done with it.  Another guy will slot into his place (nicer) and your quality of life/mind will improve a thousand fold.

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« Reply #3 on: 03 February 2009, 11:01:38 am »
Well said wowzers.............

I agree with that totally and yes it is about manipulating and controlling .................

What gives the client the right to know our real names?  It's totally intrusive................

I had a guy on the phone the other day asking about a booking and asked me if I am married............... I said to him - that's a little rude of you !  Are you married I said?  He replied yes and then I said to him - Good I am pleased for you now as to whether or not I am married - that is a "Need to know" and in my opinion I dont think you "need to know"!!!!

We did laugh it off but I meant it - I refuse to give out such details now as I dont think they need to know.   Just as my experience as detailed above taught me a lot and from now on I am far more guarded with information. 

Alex x

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« Reply #4 on: 03 February 2009, 11:04:53 am »
This is getting to you now, and if you allow it to continue it's going to keep getting worse. Unless you have no intention of being an escort a few months from now, you need to maximise your sanity, not your profit.

It's easy to get messed up by this game. If you allow being a hooker to negatively affect your mental state, well that's pretty bad in itself, but it may also mean you'll have to quit earlier than you might otherwise have to avoid doing more damage.

So, you need to stop this and it's worth losing a good client over. If it's all you can bear, tell him in a text that you won't be able to see him if he uses your real name. Stop doing overnights, or maybe agree only if it's in a hotel in your hometown. The way he's dropping your real name all the time he might not be able to cope with stepping back, but if that's the case you won't have to see him any more. It'll be a shame to lose the money, but think what a relief it will be not to have to think of him again.

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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #5 on: 03 February 2009, 12:25:02 pm »
The problem is Colette hasn't said anything to him, so how would he know?
She says in the first couple of lines in her post that she hasn't had a chance to discuss her discomfort with him yet. After all this time has passed, and because she hasn't brought it up since the last meeting, he now probably thinks that the two of them are at that stage where it's okay to call her by her first name. It's also probably why he's bemused that you've signed off 'Colette' in your text.

You need to clear the air with him Colette. I bet he doesn't even realise the upset he's causing. You need to speak to him before your overnight this weekend. If he doesn't understand and respect your boundaries, then kick him to the kerb. But speak to him before the weekend.

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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #6 on: 03 February 2009, 01:50:30 pm »
hmmm that's true as well, ....yes tell him, see how he responds then kick to curb  :)

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« Reply #7 on: 03 February 2009, 02:40:24 pm »
Do you have an email address for him.  If you feel uncomfortable discussing it over the phone it might be easier to pop it in an email. 

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« Reply #8 on: 03 February 2009, 07:07:26 pm »
Colette honey, you really do need to tell him how uncomfortable it makes you and set the boundries and before the next booking. If he is ok and you feel easier about it go through with this overnight, if you don't think he is listening or you are still not happy, cancel and tell him you can't see him anymore.

As for overnights you could do a variety of options instead:
don't do them,
only do them in a centrally located hotel so you feel you can leave any time and are not trapped,
or do an extended booking rather than a full overnight, say 6-8 hours.

Don't persisit with him if he continues to unsettle you!

Oh, if it's not too long ago you could reply to the: 'Colette, LOL' text with something like: 'yes colette, this is my working name and is what all my clients call me, of which you are a very dear one.'
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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #9 on: 04 February 2009, 04:08:21 am »
This is getting to you now, and if you allow it to continue it's going to keep getting worse. Unless you have no intention of being an escort a few months from now, you need to maximise your sanity, not your profit.It's easy to get messed up by this game.

What she said it....I'll take it too

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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #10 on: 04 February 2009, 08:34:00 am »
Hi Guys.
Thankyou for all your replies and your good advice.

Yes i can see that i really need to clear the air. I think my problem is that I'm not a naturally dominant person and i worry too much about upsetting other people when really i should think more about my own feelings.

I will have to talk to him before the overnight as i don't want to travel all that way and then get into a confrontation when i get there.
I wish i had never agreed to start travelling to his for overnights now,I've set a rod for my own back. A few of you suggested that i ask him to see me in a hotel in my hometown. That did come up in conversation before and he mentioned that he would expect the cost of the hotel to be taken off the price of the overnight! I didn't agree as the price he is paying already is int really enough in my opinion for 12 hours of my time (i met him working through my last agency and he still pays the same price as then) Money has been an issue from the start,when we first started arranging private overnights he wanted to come to a cheaper 'arrangement' for seeing me on a regular basis. I was firm however and said it wouldn't be happening.

I have spoken with my boyfriend and he says to  use him as the excuse for not doing overnights,i.e,say that my boyfriend is very unhappy about me doing them and i will have to stop as my relationship is more important. Then if i feel comfortable just see him for shorter bookings. I really don't want to be doing overnights,i dread them coming round and i can see now I've made a rod for my own back. The money just is int worth it for something i don't want to be doing (maybye if i was getting ?1000+ ;D)
I think the problem is he sees us as friends and likes to kid himself that it is more than a financial arrangement and using my name is a part of that.I can see now that i will just have to explain politely that i would like to be called Colette while we are on an appointment and if he starts been funny or dismissive with me i will have to say i cant see him anymore.

Wish me luck.....

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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #11 on: 04 February 2009, 08:39:24 am »
Hi Guys.
Thankyou for all your replies and your good advice.

Yes i can see that i really need to clear the air. I think my problem is that I'm not a naturally dominant person and i worry too much about upsetting other people when really i should think more about my own feelings.

I will have to talk to him before the overnight as i don't want to travel all that way and then get into a confrontation when i get there.
I wish i had never agreed to start travelling to his for overnights now,I've set a rod for my own back. A few of you suggested that i ask him to see me in a hotel in my hometown. That did come up in conversation before and he mentioned that he would expect the cost of the hotel to be taken off the price of the overnight! I didn't agree as the price he is paying already is int really enough in my opinion for 12 hours of my time (i met him working through my last agency and he still pays the same price as then) Money has been an issue from the start,when we first started arranging private overnights he wanted to come to a cheaper 'arrangement' for seeing me on a regular basis. I was firm however and said it wouldn't be happening.

I have spoken with my boyfriend and he says to  use him as the excuse for not doing overnights,i.e,say that my boyfriend is very unhappy about me doing them and i will have to stop as my relationship is more important. Then if i feel comfortable just see him for shorter bookings. I really don't want to be doing overnights,i dread them coming round and i can see now I've made a rod for my own back. The money just is int worth it for something i don't want to be doing (maybye if i was getting ?1000+ ;D)
I think the problem is he sees us as friends and likes to kid himself that it is more than a financial arrangement and using my name is a part of that.I can see now that i will just have to explain politely that i would like to be called Colette while we are on an appointment and if he starts been funny or dismissive with me i will have to say i cant see him anymore.

Wish me luck.....


Good luck Colette. It can be difficult to deal with situations when you think your actions/words will upset the other person but you need to put your need and feelings on the same level as his. Just because you are the service provider, it doesn't mean he gets his own way. Its not you being mean, its you looking after you and in this game, that is really important.   

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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #12 on: 04 February 2009, 03:26:04 pm »
Your totally right Trafford
I know i need to get in touch but im such a coward ive been putting it off all day! the thought of ringing him and saying what ive got to say is making me feel ill. Wish i had his email address like Lexie suggested and i would tell him that way. 

I need to get a grip and grow a backbone i think.

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« Reply #13 on: 04 February 2009, 04:37:19 pm »
Colette, I didn't realise about the money issue, babes, if he wants to see you so badly he'll pay for the hotel, don't try to make it easy on the guy, he is obviously trying it on as much as he can. I think you need to tell him the truth including that he is getting you for less than you are worth as an independent.

The more I hear about him the more I'd say walk away.
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Re: Clients making you feel uncomfortable,how do you cope?
« Reply #14 on: 04 February 2009, 07:00:36 pm »
the money issue

I second Cassie's point, here. He's not even paying your proper rate? And he's not the most gorgeous, beautiful, hilarious regular you've ever had? Then he's not worth your time!! Tell me where he wants to meet you and I'll go there instead, to give him a smack round the gob. And make him pay my full hourly rate for it, too!
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