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eastkate

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Client not paid
« on: 22 October 2020, 08:01:32 pm »
Hi Ladies,

I'm new to here - I know I should probably reply on a thread but couldnt see how I could do it.

I saw a client on Tuesday through AW, no feedback, I asked him for a deposit but he wasn't happy as he said he had been scammed twice in the past week so I agreed to him paying me by transfer when we met. Before our session he gave me his online banking (I dont know what bank it was) to put my details in and make the transfer and he did it there in front of me, I could see his account balance and was happy - anyway I didnt check until he left but it hadn't cleared so I politely messaged him and told him the money hadnt come through, he replied and said it can take up to two hours. After that time it still hadn't come through, I messaged him and he said there must be a problem with his bank and that he was putting it through again and then sent me screenshots of it bouncing back. I then asked him to try Paypal which he said he didnt have and he said he would try to get his friend to transfer instead. The next day still no sign of the money I asked him to call his bank and put through a manual transfer, he said it had never happened before I said I believed him but that it needed to get sorted. I then kept messaging him and said he needed to contact his bank before they shut, he said he would and if not he would come to give me cash at my address at 10am this morning to which I said I wasnt free and that he just needed to sort the transfer. I then tried calling him all night and it just kept going to answerphone even when I withheld my number. He hadnt blocked me on whatsapp and this morning I messaged him at 8am and said that he needed to come and give me the cash - he eventually replied at 10am saying he would be at my address at 1.20pm. He didn't turn up, he blocked me on whatsapp, and still not able to get through on the phone.

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I havent had this happen to me before and I'm really upset about it :( - is there anything I can do? xxx
« Last Edit: 22 October 2020, 08:05:56 pm by SAAFE »

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« Reply #1 on: 22 October 2020, 08:12:45 pm »
I’m sorry this has happened to you. Reversing bank transfers does seem to be a bit of a thing at the moment. Client Eye has quite a lot of reports against men’s numbers for doing this. 

Sadly, I think this might be a tough lesson for you to learn from particularly as you can not leave him negative feedback on Adultwork.

Many refuse to see men with zero feedback. Personally, I will only see someone with zero AW feedback if they give me a goodwill deposit by way of an e-voucher in order to secure a booking. This is on top of my regular fee.

With regards to bank transfers, I refuse and insist on cash. However, in one instance, I did allow a regular to pay me this way but I refused to start the session until it showed in my account and I had transferred it to another account.

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« Reply #2 on: 22 October 2020, 08:40:33 pm »
Sorry this has happened to you but it's the same old story with these bank transfers especially if you are relying on him paying full amount when he arrives this way. They think you will just get on with the service because they are there.

The only way bank transfers are ever a good idea if a client pays a deposit upfront and you have it before you see him and pays rest in cash.

If you genuinely have his details you could take it down the legal route if you want to?

There is also some scamming apps that could show a fake screen that's it been sent. Men that want to pay by transfer when booked appointment in advance i am extra suspicious of. These men are just scamming thieves that might as well come in and rob your money out of your bag and wardrobe it's the same thing.

Report him on here, NUM and Client eye is best thing to do.

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« Reply #3 on: 22 October 2020, 08:45:12 pm »
If you genuinely have his details you could take it down the legal route if you want to?

There isn't a 'legal route'. Contracts based on sex are not enforceable by law and the OP had the choice as to whether she continued with the service despite not being paid.

It's a shit lesson to learn, but lots of people do it and at least you won't do it again. And whilst it's rare, he might come good in the end - it happens occasionally :).

(and before the usual suspects with advice to harass, threaten or blackmail the bloke either directly or indirectly, or otherwise break the law to try and intimidate him into paying up? Don't).
« Last Edit: 22 October 2020, 08:57:55 pm by amy »

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« Reply #4 on: 22 October 2020, 08:53:48 pm »
The "bank transfer" is one of the most common scams OP. Unless he's a trusted regular you've seen many many times DO NOT take bank transfers from no one because this is what happens. ???
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« Reply #5 on: 22 October 2020, 08:57:06 pm »
Cash is king.
"There is no sin except stupidity" - Oscar Wilde

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« Reply #6 on: 22 October 2020, 09:21:22 pm »
There isn't a 'legal route'. Contracts based on sex are not enforceable by law and the OP had the choice as to whether she continued with the service despite not being paid.

It's a shit lesson to learn, but lots of people do it and at least you won't do it again. And whilst it's rare, he might come good in the end - it happens occasionally :).

(and before the usual suspects with advice to harass, threaten or blackmail the bloke either directly or indirectly, or otherwise break the law to try and intimidate him into paying up? Don't).

It does not have to be a sex contract. Did he hire her for her time as an escort and have that agreed time? Did she give him a massage. Still a service. It is still a form of fraud he agreed to pay her pretended it was sent, she got messages saying he will drop the cash round thhen blocked her.

She has evidence but it's whether she can be bothered to do anything on a legal route. I say this because i know someone who had same type of thing got ripped off and had evidence of that for booking on her time and a massage service and she contacted a solicitor who was willing to act on her behalf and said she had a case in a civil matter.

We have disclaimers a lot of us do you book us on our time or massage there is ways that can be used if someone really wanted to but i doubt most would want to go through the hassle.

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« Reply #7 on: 22 October 2020, 09:31:53 pm »
I’m sorry this happened to you

In the past I have a couple of clients turn up to my incall place....then to my face ask do you accept bank transfer... I politely show them the door and say sorry I only accept cash payments.  (I instantly block them once they leave) 

No pay no play (always accept cash payments)




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« Reply #8 on: 22 October 2020, 09:56:54 pm »
There isn't a 'legal route'. Contracts based on sex are not enforceable by law and the OP had the choice as to whether she continued with the service despite not being paid.

It's a shit lesson to learn, but lots of people do it and at least you won't do it again. And whilst it's rare, he might come good in the end - it happens occasionally :).

(and before the usual suspects with advice to harass, threaten or blackmail the bloke either directly or indirectly, or otherwise break the law to try and intimidate him into paying up? Don't).

But... but .... I HAVE TIES TO THE MOB, Amy!!! Cement boots🥾! The Italians! Horse’s🐎 heads in beds🛌!

Amy always makes us behave *grumbles*.
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amy

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« Reply #9 on: 22 October 2020, 10:06:00 pm »
It does not have to be a sex contract. Did he hire her for her time as an escort and have that agreed time? Did she give him a massage. Still a service. It is still a form of fraud he agreed to pay her pretended it was sent, she got messages saying he will drop the cash round thhen blocked her.

She has evidence but it's whether she can be bothered to do anything on a legal route. I say this because i know someone who had same type of thing got ripped off and had evidence of that for booking on her time and a massage service and she contacted a solicitor who was willing to act on her behalf and said she had a case in a civil matter.

We have disclaimers a lot of us do you book us on our time or massage there is ways that can be used if someone really wanted to but i doubt most would want to go through the hassle.

If you seriously believe any of that would hold water (and if you do, I have a bridge you might be interested in), then fine. Suspending disbelief at superhuman level, what happens when he says she's lying and he did pay her?

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« Reply #10 on: 22 October 2020, 10:10:23 pm »
Amy always makes us behave *grumbles*.

Unfortunately it's us that carry the can if somebody does wind up in the shit because they've followed bad advice given here, whether it's lying to the police, evading tax or blackmailing people who have incurred their wrath for whatever reason.

Speaking personally, the bloke can get the clap and then fall in a volcano for all I care ;D.

eastkate

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« Reply #11 on: 22 October 2020, 10:12:49 pm »
Unfortunately it's us that carry the can if somebody does wind up in the shit because they've followed bad advice given here, whether it's lying to the police, evading tax or blackmailing people who have incurred their wrath for whatever reason.

Speaking personally, the bloke can get the clap and then fall in a volcano for all I care ;D.

Thank you ladies, I guess I'll just put it down to experience, just rather frustrating and sad:( xxx

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« Reply #12 on: 22 October 2020, 10:16:50 pm »
Thank you ladies, I guess I'll just put it down to experience, just rather frustrating and sad:( xxx

I know it is, but you'll never let it happen again and above all else, you're safe, well and unharmed :).

Plus he might catch the clap and then fall in a volcano.

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« Reply #13 on: 22 October 2020, 10:24:10 pm »
Cash is king.

Precisely this.
I am getting quite a few now asking about bank tranfers, all the usual excuses, don't want to have to use the ATM ... Well guess what fella, I don't want your bank transfer shit either so  sort the cash or jog on.
Too easy to scam and the less we let them get away with it the better.

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« Reply #14 on: 22 October 2020, 10:33:35 pm »
I've had a a few more than normal ring for transfer over the past 8 months. I always refuse due to this mularky.
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