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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #15 on: 01 December 2010, 12:45:45 am »
You've got some great advice from ladies here browncandy, it will really help you in the future when doing outcalls if you learn the safest practices about doing outcall appointments. Please make sure you take it!  :-*

The most important thing right now though is that you are ok and that there is support out there if you need it. Haven's rape crisis centre might be a good place to go if you are feeling traumatised by the whole thing, you can find them here: http://www.thehavens.co.uk/index.php 

Big hugs xx

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #16 on: 01 December 2010, 01:21:57 am »
Wow...now if there is ever a time I shutup and not post, this would be it  ;)

On a serious note, all I can say is Brown Candy you seem to be making the same fatal flaws that I've done over the years. The good news is, it will make you that much stronger and smarter. Someone mentioned you taking a break...I disagree. The last thing you want is to take a break after your worst client. If you NEED to take a break, do it after you've met about 2 GOOD clients, which I PROMISE will happen. I'm a believer of ending ALL things on a good note. Otherwise, you'll always have a dark, dreary image of escorting that'll tarnish anyone you meet who does it. Only a fantastic, new, clean and HONESTLY WEALTHY client can mend the wounds.

And for the record, that could have been carried out from anyone. African, American, Hispanic, White...My worst client experiences and rip-offs have been from White men FYI. I'm saying that so the next time you meet someone who isn't African...you won't let your guard down, and be left looking stupid when they pull some crazy sh!t.

Don't see this as a failure. See it as a learning experience. Follow what you read on here by the letter. Don't allow clients to bend the rules.

And again, 100 for an overnight? Sweetheart, no! Thats attracting bad clients. I won't tell you what to price yourself, but please try and do some research on pricing for ladies in your area. At the very least, $500 and up for an overnight is going to immediately weed out guys like that who are potentially dangerous.

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #17 on: 01 December 2010, 01:35:45 am »
Have you thought about joining an agency while you find your feet, rather than working independently?

This is how I started, I didn't have much idea about the business so I decided to let someone else deal with that side while I got on with the one on one escorting. Of course you still have to keep your own financial records, and always have the taxi fare home and the number of a trusted friend for if anything goes wrong and the agency lets you down! An established agency will be experienced at weeding out the less desirables over the phone, and they should be there for backup if you find yourself in a difficult situation. You can always go independent again once you've got the hang of the business  :)

Agencies don't always have your best interests at heart, but they aren't all bad. I've been with some desperate money grabbing agencies, but I think even they would draw the line at a booking like you've had! Maybe some ladies in your area could recommend some decent ones to you?

Whatever you decide to do, take care - no one has the right to treat you badly, and your safety is worth more than any client is willing to pay!
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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #18 on: 01 December 2010, 01:41:37 am »
He made me walk several yards behind him on the way to his place. I just had to walk and follow. Never again will i do overnights and Im not seeing africans ever again...

Another question:

Was this guy north African or Black African? The whole walking behind thing sounds like he came straight from the Middle East  :o

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #19 on: 01 December 2010, 09:45:50 am »


I really can't add to the wonderful advice you have been given, but wanted to send you a virtual hug anyway.

I would, however, be very tempted to hold the scum bag down while Paris did her worst.

Please never ignore your gut feelings, and know that you are worth so much more than what happened on Sunday.

Let us know how you are when you can. 

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« Reply #20 on: 01 December 2010, 01:06:50 pm »
trust me hun i would need no help to stick a very sharp heel up his cretin ass but you would be more than welcome to watch

   on a serious note while i did say orginally take a break untill you feel more able to cope both mentally and physically  and i still stand by that i also agree with american pie in that sometimes the best thing to do is to get back and work if only because it may restore your confidence in working and the longer you are off the harder it can be to get back working

but and it s bloody big but , only and i say only  go back  if you follow all the good and heartfelt advice that we have all given you 
and shitheads and assholes  come in all differents colours and ages  black white brown young and old and  business men and bob the builders 
but if you have a set way to work  and dont ever deviate from it no matter what its worth you will be a lot happier

 one thing that i stick to  if  a guy is supposed to be with me at 2pm and then at 2.15 he is calling me to say he  is here   and he hasnt informed me that he is going to be late  -  then i wont see him   you know why  - because he is taking control of the situation taking control away from me and thats a major no no
  i dont care if im painting my nails or watching judge judy  if he cant turn up on time and let me know he is late then i cant see him

some people would say im a control freak but you know what i would rather be a fucking control freak and be alive and safe and happy than dead in ditch  and after 10 years of working touch wood i havnt had a bad incident yet  however  i have probably avoided a whole lot of them though by sticking to  MY rules
   So take control of the situation from the get go dont be pushed around , its weak and men like that asshole prey on it as soon as you give an inch they will take a fucking mile     
the only time im  walking behind  a guy  i would have been fucking kicking him up his ass at the same time and getting paid for it
i hope you take on all of our advice cos  it really coming from escorts with experience and knowledge of years of working and how to deal with situations like the one you found yourself in   
you are very very lucky to be not badly injured or worse  and i really hope that you get over this in time and  decide what to do

   


I really can't add to the wonderful advice you have been given, but wanted to send you a virtual hug anyway.

I would, however, be very tempted to hold the scum bag down while Paris did her worst.

Please never ignore your gut feelings, and know that you are worth so much more than what happened on Sunday.

Let us know how you are when you can. 


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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #21 on: 01 December 2010, 01:18:39 pm »
Hi Brown Candy

Well done for getting through it & talking about it here. I can't add any thing as you have already been given superb advice here. This is a tough industry & you have to stay tough! The only thing I can think off is it might be a good idea to sit & structure an appointment routine & safety check procedure & stick to it! I have mine on my website, so clients know how to book me & what information they will need in order to book me. If they don't give it, or it doesn't add up, they are blacklisted with no contact from me !

Good luck honey & remeber come here & get advice first if you are unsure about some thing :)

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #22 on: 01 December 2010, 02:24:46 pm »
Think everyone already echoed most of my thoughts.  Brown Candy you sound very young by what you write.  I must admit when I was probably your age, I did quite a few very foolish and potentially very dangerous things, going off with almost complete strangers to parties gawd knows where.  I must have had an army of guardian angels doing non-stop overtime as luckily nothing happened to me.  So I am in no position to judge!  However I was not working in this industry where a lot of potential dangers are multiplied as you get some really nasty predatory guys targeting young WGs. 

First of all, I am so relieved that you came out of this alive although harmed.  This needs to be your wake-up call.  Maybe you need to assess your profile and how you describe yourself.  Does it read like you are inexperienced and perhaps easy to manipulate?  Reading a couple of other posts about people haggling down your fees makes me wonder whether you attract a certain type by how you worded your ad.  Can you get someone to proof read and give you feedback?  I think sometimes we don?t realise by how certain wording can send subconscious signals. 

If you are outcall only, you really need to get into a routine of security checks of knowing exactly where you will be going and who you are seeing and need to have vital info like the full real name, complete address and postcode and if applicable for a private address a landline.  Check for a start that the address actually exists on maybe Street map.  Always have enough money to get back without any fee in case the booking is bogus or the guy seems dodgy.  Some escorts seem to only bring enough to get there and rely on the client?s money to travel back.  That makes you very vulnerable.  I also often use the Google street view facility just to see what the area and actually street is like.  None of that makes me completely safe but it increases the odds in my favour.    Please get yourself a buddy x                   

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #23 on: 01 December 2010, 02:32:19 pm »
He made me walk several yards behind him on the way to his place. I just had to walk and follow. Never again will i do overnights and Im not seeing africans ever again...

Another question:

Was this guy north African or Black African? The whole walking behind thing sounds like he came straight from the Middle East  :o

Please AP don?t go down the route of sweeping generalisations about ethnic background.  That does not help and is not relevant.  The overall creepy and bad behaviour could be attributed to every race and the safety advice is universally applicable.   

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #24 on: 01 December 2010, 05:04:41 pm »
Please AP don?t go down the route of sweeping generalisations about ethnic background.  That does not help and is not relevant.  The overall creepy and bad behaviour could be attributed to every race and the safety advice is universally applicable.   

You're pretty much re-iterating what I just said about her not letting her guard down when she meets someone who isn't African. I was asking the above question to try and get an idea of where this person was from....

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #25 on: 01 December 2010, 06:06:34 pm »
Please AP don?t go down the route of sweeping generalisations about ethnic background.  That does not help and is not relevant.  The overall creepy and bad behaviour could be attributed to every race and the safety advice is universally applicable.   

You're pretty much re-iterating what I just said about her not letting her guard down when she meets someone who isn't African. I was asking the above question to try and get an idea of where this person was from....


And I am saying once more it should not matter where this guy was from. It does not help this thread or Brown Candy. The same kind of safety advice should apply to all clients.  Speculative ethnic profiling only serves to sideline really important basic safety considerations.   

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #26 on: 01 December 2010, 06:13:36 pm »
Joey was referring to cultural practices, not ethnic origin when he mentioned the 'walking behind' practice. It may have been clumsy and heading off topic, but it was not racist.

Bella, please stop trying to find offence where there isn't any, and please also remember that you are not a moderator on this forum and until you are formally appointed as such, you will not be telling other members how to post.

Back on topic, please.

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #27 on: 01 December 2010, 06:33:01 pm »
Joey was referring to cultural practices, not ethnic origin when he mentioned the 'walking behind' practice. It may have been clumsy and heading off topic, but it was not racist.

Bella, please stop trying to find offence where there isn't any, and please also remember that you are not a moderator on this forum and until you are formally appointed as such, you will not be telling other members how to post.

Back on topic, please.

I get your point Amy.  But I was appealing to a fellow member not to get sidetracked about cultural or ethnical clich?s so we could focus on supporting Brown Candy and stay on topic.  I did not see this as getting any ideas above my station.  Surely any public forum should be about members trying to have some respect for different cultures and not about type casting.  Discussing the difference between different African regions is about ethical origin.   So please do not second guess me whether I am offended or not.  Perhaps you could PM me if you have concerns rather than trying to publicly humiliate me?     

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #28 on: 01 December 2010, 07:33:55 pm »

I get your point Amy.  But I was appealing to a fellow member not to get sidetracked about cultural or ethnical clich?s so we could focus on supporting Brown Candy and stay on topic.  I did not see this as getting any ideas above my station.  Surely any public forum should be about members trying to have some respect for different cultures and not about type casting.  Discussing the difference between different African regions is about ethical origin.   So please do not second guess me whether I am offended or not.  Perhaps you could PM me if you have concerns rather than trying to publicly humiliate me?     

Amy's job is to moderate the forum and its members in any way she sees fit. It's what she was appointed for and she does a stellar job.

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Re: The worst Night of my Life...
« Reply #29 on: 01 December 2010, 10:45:20 pm »
Sweetie,  You poor thing. :-( And it was all going so well...call me, i tried to call you just now, your phone is off. xx