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Lena

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Chat room?
« on: 11 February 2010, 12:36:28 am »
I can well imagine that I am not the first one asking about this - but why we don't have chat room on Saafe? I think it would be nice...
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #1 on: 11 February 2010, 01:30:19 am »
Would be nice.
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #2 on: 11 February 2010, 12:08:49 pm »
Sorry to sound like a mardy moo but who would have the time & resources to moderate such a chat room on a regular basis and for long periods?  People are not paid to moderate and deal with the admin stuff on this site but probably just about have time to pop in to read and keep an eye on the forum.  If you run a successful chat room that is free from mobbing, touting and want to stop it from disintegrating into a free for all potential bitch fest than you do need people to commit set times to moderate such a place.  I am not sure about the legal implications with regards to chat rooms but for example anyone running a forum probably does need to ensure that its members do not face racial, sexist or other form of abuse and discrimination.  Chat rooms that appear to withstand the test of times are usually almost permanently moderated.  You ladies& boys  might fancy interacting and chatting but these rooms can attract unsavoury elements and guys who want to chat to ?prossies? who can really disrupt a good setup.  Just think of explosive threads and multiply the potential for rows at least by a hundred in real time.  Yes such a thing might be good and could work but I reckon it requires a lot of commitment and people who are reliable.       
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #3 on: 11 February 2010, 03:23:43 pm »
Id moderate it.
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Lena

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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #4 on: 11 February 2010, 06:10:09 pm »
I thought there are some reasons...Is is possible to have closed chat just for members with xxx number of posts?
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BurlesqueHoney

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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #5 on: 11 February 2010, 07:00:17 pm »
Quote from: Lena on 11 February 2010, 06:10:09 pm
I thought there are some reasons...Is is possible to have closed chat just for members with xxx number of posts?

I was only speculating btw - I have no idea what is possible or not.  But again and that is my personal opinion only I would feel a bit uncomfortable about restricting access.  It seems to go against perhaps some of the ethics of SAAFE a site that is open for all to read as precisely it helps those new and most vulnerable.  I would not want those people to feel excluded.   
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MissMillie

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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #6 on: 11 February 2010, 07:27:20 pm »
Also, on the restricting access note, alot of the support that goes on on here can be done via PM therefore, the post count would exclude people who do more than enough for others on here...

just my 2 cents
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Lena

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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #7 on: 11 February 2010, 08:38:51 pm »
yes, you are right. I just thought it would help preventing "unsavoury elements and guys who want to chat to ?prossies? who can really disrupt a good setup".
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MissMillie

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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #8 on: 11 February 2010, 08:52:38 pm »
It was a good suggestion from that point of view, sadly not everything is black or white
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amy

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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #9 on: 11 February 2010, 09:58:28 pm »
I have no interest in chat rooms personally, but I do know that some smaller local boards have 'set' times for chatting (say Sunday nights 7-10, or whatever) so everyone knows when it is open, and the mods aren't expected to sit there 24 hours a day watching it like a hawk even though nobody's there. The trouble with this obviously is that someone somewhere is always going to moan that the time/day doesn't suit them, so if and how it works I really don't know.

I also know (from hearsay rather than experience) that they are a royal pain in the arse to build and add, and the thought of moderating one that was both public and constantly available makes my teeth hurt. I have to say, fr0m the point of view of personal advice and suchlike, I think the PM system is better, if only because you at least know who's reading it.
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #10 on: 12 February 2010, 04:32:53 pm »
Quote from: amy on 11 February 2010, 09:58:28 pm
I also know (from hearsay rather than experience) that they are a royal pain in the arse to build and add, and the thought of moderating one that was both public and constantly available makes my teeth hurt. I have to say, fr0m the point of view of personal advice and suchlike, I think the PM system is better, if only because you at least know who's reading it.

Why not just create an IRC channel on a public server (of which there are thousands)? Then for the luddites amongst our number, embed one of the many free java or flash based IRC clients in the main site...
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #11 on: 12 February 2010, 04:48:02 pm »
Quote from: bennyboywonder on 12 February 2010, 04:32:53 pm
Why not just create an IRC channel on a public server (of which there are thousands)? Then for the luddites amongst our number, embed one of the many free java or flash based IRC clients in the main site...

Benny, with the best will in the world, that may as well be in Tuareg for all it means to me; I can only just send an email or add a link to my site without f*cking it up. When I said 'hearsay' I meant that I remembered someone else had said it, who might possibly have some idea what the above quote means in English, and she (I think it was probably Anjali) may or may not see this and remember. UnfortunatelyI am apparently not even at Luddite level because I honestly haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

May I remind members that there are plenty of boards which already have chat rooms and it surely wouldn't be too much of a stretch to organise times to 'meet' if they are really that bothered?
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #12 on: 12 February 2010, 05:59:44 pm »
Hehe.

I know what Benny's talking about, and he's right that it's pretty simple. I arranged something like that years ago on a local board but everyone else hated it because there are no animated pronographic smilies available in IRC, which is one of the many reasons that I don't post on my local boards any more.

I'm not sure a chat room would be a good idea though, but if anyone else is interested then comment and I'll weigh that in. I'd still need to talk to janitor about whether she'd be ok with hosting a web-based client for the luddites though since I don't know what kind of load they put on the server.
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #13 on: 12 February 2010, 06:05:23 pm »
yep was probably me based on 8 years moderating plinks chatroom and owning it for the last 2  ;)

we have 7 mods, covering something like 20 hours a day, and as its public access still get complaints, idiots, fights and donughts, but all good fun if your a masochist.

Benny is right in that it can be as simple as setting on up on say icq's network and linking to it, as plink has done, which then gives you all of the above.

if anybody wanted to, set up thier own chatroom and invite people to meet there on an as and when, I would be happy to suggest a couple of options on doing it.
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Re: Chat room?
« Reply #14 on: 12 February 2010, 08:29:00 pm »
Tell people about IRC today and they don't believe you :)

It's one of the early instant messaging systems, dating back to the late 80s. Until widespread availability of broadband in the UK, it suffered because of the costs of dial-up connections (much cheaper to send an email / use an 'offline reader' on a message board) and by the time it became 'free' to chat, other systems had used more or less dubious ways to get the attention and user numbers.

But it lives on. Various groups use IRC to hold online meetings, and I know some deaf friends who use it at home to talk to each other as they can type faster than they can sign!

Quote from: anjali on 12 February 2010, 06:05:23 pm
it can be as simple as setting on up on say icq's network and linking to it

Gosh, I thought ICQ was dead and buried at a crossroads with a stake through its heart. Certainly, giving an ICQ 'number' on registration is one of the tests I use to detect spam registrations: only the spambots pretend to use ICQ now.

Personally, I think running your own chat room is much more trouble than it's worth, but it's not my decision :)
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