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General Category => Warnings & Wasters => Topic started by: Esme1994 on 30 September 2016, 02:24:20 pm
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Hello,
First client I've had in a year of escorting who just gave me really bad vibes and scared me. His name is graninimango on adultwork. I explained on the phone that I needed to get the last train home from Bristol and could only do an hour's booking at my hotel.
We had overan by about 20 minutes when I told him, I said I would carry on for another hour at my usual rate, but he said angrily that the conversation we had at the beginning didn't count towards the booking and that I wasn't being fair to him and I had to continue. He seemed angry so I continued for a short while longer. Luckily my safety buddy began ringing my phone, and he was happy for me to answer it. As I had missed my train my safety buddy offered to pick me up.
I was getting really bad vibes from the client now, he had an aggressive tone of voice and accused me of clock watching (although I had explained my situation to him beforehand and I only looked at the time once I knew we had ran over!). He refused to pay me another hour, but counted out ?2000 and wanted me to insert this inside myself. I refused as I could see he had no real intention of giving me the money. He kept insisting I do so while I continued to politely ask him to leave. Eventually he did so, especially as he knew my friend was on his way to pick me up.
He's a white, middle aged man, probably in his early sixties? He's very well spoken and requests that you wear tight jeans and riding boots. The booking started fine but I felt very uncomfortable and upset towards the end and the fact he wouldn't let me leave!
His number is 079416401**
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Did you get your fee at the beginning?
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Yes I got my fee for an hour at the beginning, after clearly explaining to him I was only available for an hour, and he ended up staying for two hours.
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The same man got in touch with me last year, although a booking never went ahead.
When Richard first got in touch with me, I was told his regular girl had retired and was "genuinely in need of a regular weekly arrangement". He wants to be "pampered" with oily handjobs and prostate massages. He also like to talk in detail about the tight levi jeans and riding boots that he wants me to wear, at one point he offered to buy me some. I was also offered extra money to see him when I said I wasn't available.
Thankfully I never actually met him.
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Oh my god I have definitely seen this idiot. He calls you about the jeans you cannot get him off the phone and he makes you think your going to get an allowance and regular jobs. He is quite educated and friendly so you just think oh this sounds easy. I tell him I've just had an operation so I'm swolllen and more like a size 14. After loads of faffing and not turning up he comes into the room with a bag he tells me I'm loads larger than my pictures and no way these size zero jeans are going to fit me. He also says I forgo the rope i thought rope red flag get the hell out of my room. I am very blunt so I opened the door wide and said off you pop then I have more clients to see. The best way with this one is to be quite fierce. This was about a year ago shame he is still pulling the same tricks.
Hello,
First client I've had in a year of escorting who just gave me really bad vibes and scared me. His name is graninimango on adultwork. I explained on the phone that I needed to get the last train home from Bristol and could only do an hour's booking at my hotel.
We had overan by about 20 minutes when I told him, I said I would carry on for another hour at my usual rate, but he said angrily that the conversation we had at the beginning didn't count towards the booking and that I wasn't being fair to him and I had to continue. He seemed angry so I continued for a short while longer. Luckily my safety buddy began ringing my phone, and he was happy for me to answer it. As I had missed my train my safety buddy offered to pick me up.
I was getting really bad vibes from the client now, he had an aggressive tone of voice and accused me of clock watching (although I had explained my situation to him beforehand and I only looked at the time once I knew we had ran over!). He refused to pay me another hour, but counted out ?2000 and wanted me to insert this inside myself. I refused as I could see he had no real intention of giving me the money. He kept insisting I do so while I continued to politely ask him to leave. Eventually he did so, especially as he knew my friend was on his way to pick me up.
He's a white, middle aged man, probably in his early sixties? He's very well spoken and requests that you wear tight jeans and riding boots. The booking started fine but I felt very uncomfortable and upset towards the end and the fact he wouldn't let me leave!
His number is 079416401**
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Just had this idiot contact me! I haven't heard from him in about 3 years!!
Same old story about wanting a regular weekly booking, I was giggling like an idiot when he mentioned Levi jeans!
Same number as before xx
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This guy has moved on to Oxford and has just wasted half an hour of my time going on about wanting watersports and fin dom. So bloody glad I checked his number before confirming a booking!
So he's still calling himself Richard, claims he is an architect and had a regular arrangement with a local lady (now left the area) for tie and tease, watersports and a game he called "The Trick" which involves a card game which he would usually lose and then the WG would get the ?1000 in cash which she would then put inside a condom and insert inside herself. (So similar to what Esme reported.)
He is very well-spoken, sounds completely professional but he did trip one red flag which was that he wanted to go into loads of detail about what he wanted me to do. Usually when this happens I find they are just phone wankers and no show, but in this case he sounds more dangerous.
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I have had this person call me in December when I was in Bristol.
Told me he is an architect and had moved back from canada and looking for a regular arrangement.
Told me all about the trick game/findom etc.
Well spoke and I have stored his number.
He wanted an appointment for CP but I was fully booked.
Begged for a cashpoint meet but I don't do those.
I believe he is the same person who bombarded me with long emails on another of my Bristol visits who I refused to see(gut instinct)
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I have had this guy waste my time also, a few times, I am based in Plymouth.
Richard levi jean / Card games / Money inserted (which i thought sounded really fun)
Glad i have read this though! Not heard from him in a while, was a few months back.
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I'm back in Bristol and he has just called again.
I declined his request for an appointment.
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I'm in Cardiff and he has been contacting me on and off for the last 18 months with "The Trick"
079416401**
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Hi all
Wanted to make you all aware about this time waster, I'm sure I've seen some other girls write about him on here before
So his name is Richard sounds posh, says he used to have a regular escort who rode a horse etc, do I have leather boots, could he bye me Levi jeans and a tight workout outfit
Constant text the day after so I said I won't see you now ass you've annoyed me. Throught that was the end of it no, he called me off his home number didn't say who he was then last min mentioned it. Weird how is acted all normal the second time!
He will try and keep you on the phone for as long as he can
His mobile is 079416401**
His home number 011791459**
:)
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Hi first post here but this thread is why I registered,
I am a escort in the south west who used to see this man regularly and know his real name his address etc.
I stopped seeing him because he turned very weird and then when I did he decided to try and crack me by calls, threats to find out who I was. Threats to make me disappear he is in essence a very nasty man.
I mean our bookings started out great he wanted jeans no more which wasn't odd then it progressed to wanting a game then he started saying how I had made him broke, bear in mind I only ever took the fee not he game money, then the threats started which I won't go into detail over but we're very very nasty. I am not sure if I am allowed to pop his real name etc on here. So I will await a reply from someone who knows but he still 3 years after I stopped seeing him tries to book me and I have had to change my profile even my car because of him.
He is known to the police for a few things including harassment of escorts and as far as I last knew he is not meant to make contact with any escort.
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You can't post identifying details such as real names but you can post a description of this guy which would be helpful to other people.
And also the number he booked you on in this format: 012345678**
You can also report this person anonymously to the police via a third party such as a sex work project. I'm sorry to hear you had this experience with this guy.
Edit: On my phone I had thought this was a new warning I've just seen the other posts so assuming you're talking about the same guy. If not you need to do a new warning
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You can't post identifying details such as real names but you can post a description of this guy which would be helpful to other people.
And also the number he booked you on in this format: 012345678**
You can also report this person anonymously to the police via a third party such as a sex work project. I'm sorry to hear you had this experience with this guy.
Edit: On my phone I had thought this was a new warning I've just seen the other posts so assuming you're talking about the same guy. If not you need to do a new warning
Thank you at the time I did contact the police and have been in contact since about him they are well aware of him but thank you for explaining the rules 🙂
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Hey girls, had this guy ring me last night,
●talked about Levi jeans
● talked about trick game.
● name is Richard.
● said his wife had died a few years ago and he doesn't really like sex as he is old-fashioned like that (this seems to be a new one lol ).
● phone number 079416401**
●tries to keep u on the phone for ages
I didn't really entertain him and when he started going on i just cut him off then searched here and found this so glad I didn't give him a chance now . I'm based in Cardiff
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Ive had him on the phone too! I suggested her was wasting my time... never heard back, very strange.
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He also called me recently, and talked to me about Diesel Skinny Jeans, that were spray on skin tight, and wanted to buy me various things to wear in a session, luckily I had his number saved in my phone as a dangerous person, as I had a tip off about him from another lady. It would seem he is currently doing the rounds at the moment.
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OMG I had this man today. He told me his name was Richard and that he was an architect living in the Midford area just outside of Bath. He told me he was a widower who had lost his wife in a car accident whilst she was working abroad 5 1/2 yrs ago. He said he had been seeing a massage therapist called Jessica who would wear jeans and long boots then went on and wore white jodhpurs and riding boots for him. He made a booking and turned up saw me and said sorry I am looking for someone slimmer..... I was mortified.... I am only a sz 14! Now I realise I had a lucky escape! Because he seemed a nice well spoken man I said no problem , made him a cup of ltea and we chatted for an hour about the tragedy of his wife etc!!! I now realise I had a lucky escape! I asked him to pay for the appointment (just a massage ?80 ) and he refused. I told him I had turned away others and he still said no. When he left I Googled his number..... it brought up his real name..... he has been arrested before for sensual harassment and the police class him as dangerous. A bit more digging and his address is in Keynsham, he runs photography courses and is quite a upstanding member of the public..... yeah yeah..... I had a lucky escape!
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This guy left me a voicemail yesterday and has rang me 3 times this morning but I haven't managed to speak to him yet. Funnily enough I just read this thread yesterday and when he left the voicemail he said his name was Richard so rang a bell.' I'm in Cardiff
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Be really careful ollie, this guy had me completely fooled with his story about his wife, possibly because I am a widow myself. All I offer is sensual massage with the occasional f/s so would have said no to his games anyway but he does sound a nasty bit of work.
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Doing the rounds again, called me today and when asked about jeans and boots totally rang a bell and lo and behold...what do we have here?
Blocked, pal...
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He called me two days ago. I already had him saved under "Saafe Warning" and didn't answer.
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He called me two days ago. I already had him saved under "Saafe Warning" and didn't answer.
Interesting, he actually came up on Trucaller as Richard Oxford Findom ??? so sadly I did answer and he bored the fuck out of me a short while before mentioning jeans & boots.
Weirdo.
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Interesting, he actually came up on Trucaller as Richard Oxford Findom ??? so sadly I did answer and he bored the fuck out of me a short while before mentioning jeans & boots.
Weirdo.
Ooh that's what I saved him as about 18 months ago on the basis of our initial phone call before I searched his number. Must have forgotten to edit the name before Truecaller synced my contacts.
(Actually yeah I remember he contacted me off my old Backpage phone which was achingly slow and often just shit the bed.)
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Hes back calling in Bristol area .. no mention of jeans etc .. but same old rubbish..
Takecare ladies xx
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Just had a really long winded conversation with him about 5mins ago. As soon as he mentioned levi jeans and horse riding, it clicked. What an absolute loon. Sounded so genuine and well spoken. The story was pretty well thought out too.
Something about horse riding ex regular who he saw every week but shes gone back to Ireland with her boyfriend, he said he bought me a gift of levi jeans, do I like oral, his wife died a year ago, he doesnt like romainians...it went on and on.
Blocked now.
What a douche.
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Just contacted me, with long winded story, thank goodness for this site! (I’m in Cambs)
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I’ve seen this guy also!
I joined just to say this!
I saw him in Bournemouth last year. He kept going on about ‘the trick’ and skinny jeans.
He wanted me to put money inside myself uncovered. Which I was not up for as it was so unhygienic.
Because he showed me the £2k he had with him and told me I could keep it all I stupidly didn’t ask for payment upfront.
He then overstayed massively and I tried repeatedly to get him to leave or hurry up.
When he had cum after an oily hand job his demeanour changed completely.
He became really aggressive and scared me, refusing to pay and grabbing all of the money. I stood my ground and told him that he owed me my fee as he had been 3 hours at that stage.
He refused and said I was overpriced and not worth it, and that I was spoiling everything, literally screaming at me, which made me panic and I worked from the flat I lived in at the time and was worried what the neighbours would do.
In the end he ran off without paying, luckily my partner was outside having just come home, he chased him down the road and at least got some money from him.
All in all it was a terrible experience where I felt really vulnerable and taken advantage of.
I’d definitely stay away, he seems to go for young or inexperienced girls as at the time I was 19 and not been doing this long.
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I had the same guy contact me end of May when touring Swindon.
I was totally fooled by his story of seeing a regular girl for findom who sadly moved back to Ireland. He mentioned a card game during the story of how he would always lose and end up having to pay a thousand pounds.
Very well thought out and I remember him saying he’s in Oxford.
I had a lucky escape as something told me in my gut not to see him so didn’t arrange a booking.
It’s true he is targeting newer girls as I’ve only been doing this a few months now.
So glad to have discovered this forum.
He hasn’t called me back since though which is a relief.
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This guy is doing the rounds again calling me in Cardiff. Has rang me several times this morning, left voicemail and a message on adultwork. I don't answer him ever! But just a heads up
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Called me today, telling me he'd bought me riding boots. I laughed said that was strange cause how did he know my size. Hung up immediately.
Taunton area.
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Had an email from him:
Dear Ann, Good Morning. Wow what a comprehensive profile. I cannot see anything here which specifically covers my particular fetish and so I thought the best thing to do is to e-mail you to see whether its something you can provide. My first question is do you come to Bristol frequently? I hope so. The next is to ask whether it would be possible for me to be tied very tightly spreadeagled to the bed then teased mercilessly, I think its called "Edging" and then wanked off hard until fully drained? I do have my own rope restraints for you to use on me. Could you please let me know whether you can help me and if so, whether it will be possible to do it today? I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. Richard
They he kept calling me when I was busy. Once I answered and couldn’t get him off my fone. Bored me to death. Blocked
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Look who’s back I recognised his voice straight away. Same number as above. Asking me if I had restraints and asking if he could bring rope this time for me to tie him up. No sign of the size 6 jeans he brought when I threw him out last time.
As soon as he started banging on about rope I knew it was him. I just put the phone down mid convo. It must be so exhausting to be this man still with the same MO four years past when I first spoke to him.
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Hey everyone, old mate is still at it!
He contacted me on AW with the same username. He has 0 feedback. Fed me the same bullshit story about having a regular girl who now is retired, needing to find someone to see on a fortnightly basis. He asked if we could chat on the phone briefly, to which I stupidly said yes. Told me about this card game, The Trick and about wanting to buy me riding boots and high waisted skinny jeans. 20 fucking minutes he stayed on the phone for. I barely said a word during the phone call! After about 4 minutes I just popped the phone down on the side on loud speaker and continued doing housework. After 20 minutes of him waffling on I told him I had to go and hung up on him.
He's messaging me on AW still going on about boots and jeans and which brands I'd like. I told him that for me to carry on making these arrangements he at least needs to send me some money because arranging a booking shouldn't take this long.
Glad I searched his AW username on here, as it appears he is using a new mobile number: 079438055**
How can one man be such a monumental fuckwit???
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Had an email from him:
Dear Ann, Good Morning. Wow what a comprehensive profile. I cannot see anything here which specifically covers my particular fetish and so I thought the best thing to do is to e-mail you to see whether its something you can provide. My first question is do you come to Bristol frequently? I hope so. The next is to ask whether it would be possible for me to be tied very tightly spreadeagled to the bed then teased mercilessly, I think its called "Edging" and then wanked off hard until fully drained? I do have my own rope restraints for you to use on me. Could you please let me know whether you can help me and if so, whether it will be possible to do it today? I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. Richard
They he kept calling me when I was busy. Once I answered and couldn’t get him off my fone. Bored me to death. Blocked
Ive had the same email while touring Bristol. My friend was touring cheltenham and had him on the phone for a good 15 mins all about the trick and riding boots etc. He didn't turn up to the booking.
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Had this guy call me today number 079416401
Story about was seeing a regular domme before 1st lockdown now she has retired. Asked about my availability for fortnightly visits. Asked about watching videos during a session. At this point I thought you've already been on the phone too long and I won't entertain phone wankers so I told him I do not discuss my services over the phone due to persistent phone wankers and that he should either read my profile or email me. He said oh yes I understand, then he started asking about strap on. I reiterated read my profile and email me, he then starts again asking how much experience I have as a domme, I told him again I do not discuss these things over the phone due to phone wankers. He ended the call saying he'd email me but I immediately knew he'd have reports on him. Very pushy for a sub. Usually when they are pushy they are phone wankers in my experience. Loads of reports on the app on him. Will be blocked now. Sad little twat. Glad he didn't get anything other than 2 minutes of my time.
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He's at it again. Clearly can't remember phoning me back in February. I asked him if he'd read ny profile, he said he did, so I asked why he was phoning me for something I am ot offering any more.
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Still at it.
I no longer offer domme services but do tie & tease.
Today this massive timewaster phones again (he clearly doesn't recall previous calls he's made to me) and asks if I do tie & tease. I say 'what does my profile say?'. He responds 'it says you do'. So I ask why he's asking questions he knows the answer to.
He then calls me a nasty little bitch but I was able to tell him I knew he was a phone wanker.
Sad little man. Would love to report him to whichever police force has previously charged him.