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D and S

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Privacy Concern Comments
« on: 17 January 2011, 02:40:17 pm »

Received an invitation this morning to place a quote on the following web project, i have a 7 page brief which i cannot post because it has the project owners personal address on. Ive cut and pasted the bits of interest to the escort users of this site.



project description: New website free for men to become members and ?900 for escorts to become life time members (using paypal or western union).

money making opportunities for men:

1) earn ?1 for adding the details of a new escort with work phone number ( has to be someone not yet listed and needs to be verified by admin first)

this is done so site users know who the escort is and how to contact her


2) Earn ?5 for posting on the site the working address of the escort (needs to be verified by admin first)

this is done so site users who have dificulty hearing dont have to struggle listening to the escort give directions over the phone.


3) Earn ?5 for each photograph posted on the site of men leaving the building. (upto 10 per escort address).

This is done so people know the escort is genuine and it is not a scam where the client is mugged for the cash.


4) Earn ?50 for posting on the site the escorts real name.

This is done to help the escort meet her legal obligations in providing a real name as a service provider in the UK and not just a nickname.

5) Earn ?100 for posting on the site the home address of the escort (with proof of address).

This is so any clients who have an issue with the service they have received know which address to file as the defendants address at a county court.

6) Earn ?200 for posting information about 3 members of the escorts family (names and addresses).

This is to give other users who dont have the family information the ability to help the escort by assisting in building a support network which she may not have time to do herself.


once an escorts home address and family details have been on the site for 1 month the male members are encorraged to assist the escort:


7) Earning ?50 posting leaflets explaining the escorts service through the letter boxes of the houses/flats neighbouring the working address of the escort.

This is so any clients who get the wrong address can be directed to the right address.

8) Earn ?50 to post advertising information for the escort through the letter boxes of the escorts family members. 

This is to help widen the support network for the escort which she may not have time to do herself.



Additional details that maybe of interest:

a) All requests to remove data will be honoured but have to be made from the escort in person through her own members area.

b) In the mens members area a link needs to be added to a UK censors search application for both people and address searching.

c) Site to be hosted in south america.

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Re: Privacy Concern Comments
« Reply #1 on: 17 January 2011, 02:52:28 pm »
I have moved this to Warnings, because I assume that this is the reason for it being posted. I also assume you turned down the commission, but who knows.

I doubt very much there is any genuine money on offer here. More likely some kind of rumoured professional address-collecting racket (if any such plan exists at all) designed to be spread around the internet and frighten ladies. It sounds very like the sort of barmy operation favoured by the loopier antis to me. In addition, most of the activities described would fall foul of the Protection from Harrassment Act 1997, and this would certainly include people posting such information - bearing in mind anybody could claim to be a punter, join and post whatever they wanted about somebody they had a grudge against, I can't see it being worth worrying much about.

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« Reply #2 on: 17 January 2011, 02:59:58 pm »
Given that it's basically a conspiracy to commit blackmail - 'pay us ?900 or you could have this happen to you' - I presume you've forwarded it to the police?
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #3 on: 17 January 2011, 03:08:12 pm »
Bearing in mind that their previous site allowed anybody and his/her dog to join anonymously and post identifying personal details they wanted about any poor unfortunate sod they didn't like, under the noble guise of 'escort safety' (for anybody and his/her dog to then join and look at provided they had a scrap of information to start with - an AW nick or whatever), with nothing whatsoever required to back the claims up, I seriously doubt it.

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« Reply #4 on: 17 January 2011, 03:27:21 pm »
Given that it's basically a conspiracy to commit blackmail - 'pay us ?900 or you could have this happen to you' - I presume you've forwarded it to the police?

Hi xw5, the blackmail issue was one of the initial questions i asked as well, in response they said that they intend to launch several sites side by side targeting different professions and only one of which was for escorting. As the same conditions would apply for the different industries it would be hard to argue that the information uploaded could be used for blackmail, all they have to do is bring in people from other industries to state the information uploaded is OK with them and could not be used for blackmail purposes. For someone to go against that logic would be to expect some kind of preferential treatment towards one group over everyone else.  Theres no such law that says people who choose to escort should get preferential treatment.

Further when buying services in the UK you are entitled to know the true name of the person you are buying from, if only outcalls are offered by an escort a true physical address is required. This guy could easily argue that alot of what he was doing was actually inline with UK law.


 

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« Reply #5 on: 17 January 2011, 05:25:15 pm »
If this is worrying anyone, I can't say for sure that it's all silly nonsense by a crazy person, but do note that D and S is another name for escortsafetysite.co.uk (which was previously known as clients2avoid), who has been unsuccessfully trying to get money of out escorts for a while. It comes across to me as a distasteful and weird but also rather silly attempt to scare us, rather than a distasteful and illegal attempt to extort money from us.
« Last Edit: 17 January 2011, 05:56:05 pm by Anika Mae »

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Re: Privacy Concern Comments
« Reply #6 on: 17 January 2011, 06:20:29 pm »
8) Earn ?50 to post advertising information for the escort through the letter boxes of the escorts family members. 

This is to help widen the support network for the escort which she may not have time to do herself.


Yep, lack of time is 100% the reason my family don't know that I escort... LOL. This is so nonsensical that it's pretty funny, though I hope it won't come to anything.

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Re: Privacy Concern Comments
« Reply #7 on: 17 January 2011, 09:42:27 pm »
once an escorts home address and family details have been on the site for 1 month the male members are encorraged to assist the escort:


7) Earning ?50 posting leaflets explaining the escorts service through the letter boxes of the houses/flats neighbouring the working address of the escort.

This is so any clients who get the wrong address can be directed to the right address.

 Earn ?50 to post advertising information for the escort through the letter boxes of the escorts family members. 

This is to help widen the support network for the escort which she may not have time to do herself.



What a load of s*i*...

Somebody rang up where i work a couple of months ago, threatening to do the same thing, saying he was a concerned neighbour who had children. He said he was going to post leaflets in every door in our street, i told him good luck, knock yourself out!
« Last Edit: 17 January 2011, 09:44:54 pm by xxxtinyxxx »
"Who care's what anyone say's...If you've got it...Flaunt it!!!!  :-*

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Re: Privacy Concern Comments
« Reply #8 on: 17 January 2011, 10:14:21 pm »
We posted this information in good faith to give the forum users the 'heads up' just incase this person goes forward with his plans, now im guessing here but i would say the project cost would be around ?800 with skin designs, if hes willing to pay ?800 it will be coming to a screen near you soon, if not it wont so there will be nothing to worry about.

We ourselves have not placed a project bid out of respect for the ladies who have supported us in the past. 


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« Reply #9 on: 17 January 2011, 10:16:39 pm »
I've let your post through, but you'll have noticed that you're in pre-mod. This is because you've ignored Amy's requests for you to explain why you're still here, and because some of us think this warning is nonsense. If this really did come from a third party then you're quite credulous in thinking that it wouldn't be legally problematic, and also presenting the warning in quite an odd way.

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« Reply #10 on: 19 January 2011, 05:40:23 am »
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a) All requests to remove data will be honoured but have to be made from the escort in person through her own members area.

c) Site to be hosted in south america. 

These are the scary parts:

a) "Through her own members area" implies that an escort has to pay the ?900 registration fee before they're allowed to remove their data

c) South america is well outside of british jurisdiction, of course. :(


It seems like the only way to fight something like this would be to go after the punters who try to make a quick buck from "helping" the escort.

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« Reply #11 on: 19 January 2011, 11:53:23 am »
Further when buying services in the UK you are entitled to know the true name of the person you are buying from, if only outcalls are offered by an escort a true physical address is required. This guy could easily argue that alot of what he was doing was actually inline with UK law.

this is worrying though I do feel the police would step in on this. Thr freedom of information, as i understand, does not allow information to be released if it could be a danger to the person.

Also I will add on a side note from my own experience trying to set up a website/online business.. ?800 to set up means nothing more than a shiny new website Getting the website found and advertised is a totally different ball game.

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« Reply #12 on: 21 January 2011, 11:13:02 am »
The lengths some of these sad wankers wil go to to get ? from escorts is pathetic, i cant imagine that any of my clients would put my address on the internet for everyone to see, not in a million years, as for my real name and family info i cant imagine that any escorts would ever give this info to their clients i certainly never would. These people should be reported to the police if you havnt already done so!

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« Reply #13 on: 21 January 2011, 11:29:38 am »
a) "Through her own members area" implies that an escort has to pay the ?900 registration fee before they're allowed to remove their data

That's why it's basically a conspiracy to commit blackmail, despite the feeble attempts to justify it.

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c) South america is well outside of british jurisdiction, of course. :(

It is, but there's case law that says the physical location of the server is irrelevant if you're in the UK and breaking UK law.
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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