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General Category => Warnings & Wasters => Topic started by: snoopy69 on 19 August 2009, 10:06:36 am
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Hello everyone, this is a hello and a first post in one, sorry it's in this way but to be honest we don't look for support sites until something goes wrong, but now I have found it I will be back for a proper look later.
I was royally scammed last night, I stayed with a client in Skegness he sounded to good to be true and was, I should have listened to the little voices inside me :'(
He rings and texts you offering far to much money and so I was on alert but thought it was ok after we met up and he gave me the money for an overnight.
I spent the evening looked in my bag the envelope was still there this morning but when I went down to breakfast he had run out jumped in his car and gone.
So I checked my bag the envelope was there but he had switched it at some point and it was an empty one.
The guy said he was a lawyer came acroos as very nice ordunary bloke, calls himself Mr Ward, he didn't become agressive but it has upset me very much, if he calls any of you beware & I would be very grateful of a tip off of his whereabouts if anyone knows anything he uses the no. 0*7841016"9
I don't know what else to do I am very very upset, if I go to the police they will do nothing and it will cause me real problems not him bastard ???
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Do you know that your local Police aren't good with sex workers? Unless you're sure it would do no good at all, I'd go to them. They might not be able to pursue your case, but it would be good to get on record at least so you can support a charge against him if there's one in future.
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If I go to them it is me that ends up on record for what I do my friend did this once before causes to many problems for me if I could I would but this is the way of the world these guys know this.
I have a client who is in the CID next time he books me I will ask him if he can trace him for me and have an informal chat ;)
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Maybe you could approach the hotel and tell them you stayed there with a man you met in a pub. It wouldnt be the first time in the history of the world thats happened! Say you had some money stolen. They may have his car registration or be able to get it from thier CCTV, then you CID friend can find his details easily.
Im very sorry the theft happened to you and thankyou for posting the warning. I hope it saves others from feeling as sh*tty as you must be feeling. Trust nobody.
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CID are not supposed to run checks on anyone unless it's following up a line of enquiry - some dodgy ones will and use it for personal reasons though.
If you are an independent it doesn't matter to the police what job you do, why should it?
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I didnt know they are not supposed to. But when I was much younger an ex of mine was a copper. He passed saw a car on my driveway and checked to see whos it was thinking it was another bloke. He admitted it when he slipped up by saying he liked my sisters new car. ::)
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They aren't allowed to use it for personal reasons - as you can imagine it could be abused. And yes an ex of mine said his CID friend did run searches for him on potential girlfriends as well as their families. Hardly fair since that's private info.
Would you like it if a neighbour ran searches on your car, then on the owner which would then bring up any sort of involvement with the police?
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No I would not! I was fuming at the time! You are quite right, hands down.
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Cindi you can report that as abuse of public office.
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I let him off with a verbal warning/right ear bashing. ;D
As for the Scammer, Im a firm believer in Karma.
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Good Morning,
Oh My God I went cold when I read this.
I was contacted a while back by a 'Mr Ward' who wanted me to spend a few days with him. After many phone calls back and forth I agreed to meet.
I travelled quite a long way - by train at my expense to meet this man. Obviously my fee reflected. He met me at the train station and I got some of the money up front - to cover my arse until he had money 'Transferred from his ISA into his everyday account'. This was on a Sunday so I could understand that he wasn't able to withdraw the relevant ammount for my entire stay.
We stayed in this Tacky B+B in the middle of a field (literally) and the alarm bells started ringing loud and clear in my mind. We did what us ladies do best ;) and then went to the adjoining bar/restaurant to finish the evening. He drank a fair bit, I stuck to orange juice as I knew I had to have my wits about me with this guy.
The next day, at my insistance we went to the nearest big town so that he could withdraw the rest of the cash and so I could deposit it in my account. Guess what? There was a problem and the money was going to take until Wednesday to get into his account. I wasn't a happy bunny at all, telling him that money is required up front and I didn't accept his crap story about transfers etc...
He took me back to the B+B, I had my laptop with me and searched for trains to get me back home that night. He refused to drive me to the nearest town, instead taking me to a tiny train station in the middle of nowhere. Whilst waiting for the train I had a massive argument with him. He told me he was disgusted that I never even offered to buy him a drink in the bar the night before, at which point I told him that it wasn't a date! I was there on a job, and that doesn't include buying drinks for clients!
He went all quiet then, while I continued to wipe the floor with the big, ugly, fat piece of sh*t. He even has sweaty hands - cold and clammy. Yes you know the type I'm talking about.....lol
It ended up taking me hours to get home, and I was really down about it. I know I should have reported it to somebody but I didn't want to draw any attention to myself, so just decided to take it on th chin and to never be so stupid again.
This is a warning to us all. As well as dangerous people, there are those who think they're entitled to rip us off. He targets ladies who he thinks are new to the business.
This man is really really Fat, short and is blad. Is it the same one who duped you? I'm going to dig out some records that I (hope I) kept and will put the details on here if I find them. He claims to be a Solicitor or Barrister so you're not in doubt that he has money.
Just to lighten up this post a bit, I have to tell you what happened while we were in the bedroom.
I was, erm, getting busy and the next thing he leaned over and this huge belly slapped me on the side of my head and I had to fight my way out of it! The guys stomach was so big that it nearly suffocated me! You know the advert - Belly's gonna get ya? Well ladies and Gents, Belly got me!!!
I have to say that I don't have any problem with age, size, race or anything else like that but in this instance I do have a problem. I was ripped off and if that wasn't enough, nearly killed by a gut.
So beware of this man. Calls himself Edward, Mr Ward among other things. If anybody does know where he is, I'd definately like to turn up on his doorstep and make a scene. What a wanker.
Love Alex xxx
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I've had a guy periodically call, ask for a 2 day booking at a hotel in Yorkshire. Says he's a solicitor in family affairs. I usually say I won't commit to an overnight with someone I haven't met at least once and he's to phone back with the hotel booking reference. Hasn't got back to me on 3 occasions yet.
Has an 'Oxbridge' accent and sounds like the same guy.
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I've looked and don't have any contact details for this man. Sorry peeps. x
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I've looked and don't have any contact details for this man. Sorry peeps. x
I have ;D. My friend (also based in Scarborough) has just rung me and asked about a booking request she had which sounded odd - exacly the same name and MO (Mr Ward, few days in a hotel - this one in Lincoln). I remembered this thread and doublechecked and it is definitely him; she was suspicious and asked about having some money upfront as he gave her exactly the same cobblers about transferring money out of his ISA and it taking a few days - when she questioned him about it and pointed out that she would have to be upfront when she arrived, he got uppity and sent some arsy texts, so we think he might well be in the process of trying it on somebody else.
The number he is currently using is 07719 3019** - PM me for the rest. I also know where he has a hotel booking this weekend if anybody's interested (my friend rang them and checked and it is a genuine booking, for now at least).
This site is a bloody Godsend sometimes :).
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I've looked and don't have any contact details for this man. Sorry peeps. x
I have ;D. My friend (also based in Scarborough) has just rung me and asked about a booking request she had which sounded odd - exacly the same name and MO (Mr Ward, few days in a hotel - this one in Lincoln). I remembered this thread and doublechecked and it is definitely him; she was suspicious and asked about having some money upfront as he gave her exactly the same cobblers about transferring money out of his ISA and it taking a few days - when she questioned him about it and pointed out that she would have to be upfront when she arrived, he got uppity and sent some arsy texts, so we think he might well be in the process of trying it on somebody else.
The number he is currently using is 07719 3019** - PM me for the rest. I also know where he has a hotel booking this weekend if anybody's interested (my friend rang them and checked and it is a genuine booking, for now at least).
This site is a bloody Godsend sometimes :).
I also rang the place where he was staying and checked he was there etc...I spoke to him on the B+B phone and it all seemed fine....But as you've heard it was anything but! I would love to run into him - cheeky big stinking idiot. I felt really degraded afterwards, and no other people should have to go through this.
I'll pm you for details x x x
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Quick update:
The hotel has been called and I've spoken to the Manager, alerting him about Mr Wards dodgy past. They were very interested. I've also been in touch with the man himself and told him that I've contacted the police as 'Obtaining Services by Deception' is a crime punishable by upto 5 years Jail time. He's denying it all of course. God I wish I wasn't stuck in the house as I'd turn up at the hotel and give him the shock of his seedy sicko life.
At least I'm not so bored now pmsl....What a horrible person. Karma, where are you? x
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Has anyone thought of reporting this guy(or any other timewaters to somewhere like Genesis?
They are a group who help sex workers,giving out condoms,advice,telling you re STDs,helping with vaccinations & even going to the sexual health clinic with you if you are a bit nervous going alone...
They have what they call an 'ugly mugs' book where they put all the guys details that are known so other girls that drop in can rea/see it & be on the look out & poss add more info....
They will also go to the police on your behalf...
Keep Safe....
D x
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Ive often looks for the uglymugs website, anybody have a link?
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Ive often looks for the uglymugs website, anybody have a link?
Uglymugs don't have a website as such, they get mentions on other support sites such as Crimestoppers and Streetreach.
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I was, erm, getting busy and the next thing he leaned over and this huge belly slapped me on the side of my head and I had to fight my way out of it! The guys stomach was so big that it nearly suffocated me! You know the advert - Belly's gonna get ya? Well ladies and Gents, Belly got me!!!
thats gross. I would have slapped him and then walked out with the money :D
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Had this guy try it on with me last year!! Said he was a Barrister in London but was up at his country house in Derbyshire. No problem. Then his daughter had turned up at the house in Derbyshire could we go to a local hotel? No problem. Then he could give me some money up front but would have to go to the cashpoint on Monday morning 'cos his money would have transferred from his ISA then!!!! No full money upfront no Kate!! LOL.
xx
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I've had a call from a guy tonight who sounded familiar, and remembered a warning about him on another forum. Checked it out and it's the same man.
He uses different names and phone numbers but always asks for a multi-day booking at his hotel. When I asked for his booking details for the accomodation it matched the warning I'd seen. He's a very plausible sounding guy, something commented upon in the past . Seems to book ladies who will have to drive a long way to him, who have also made a commitment to stay with him over several days. The money never materialises, on top of some personal issues which make things worse.
PM me for current number and more details but he's rang me at least twice in the last year using other numbers and the original warning had a third phone number for him.
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Strawberry, was it this (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1615.0) bloke? If so, I have a phone number for him from the end of August when he contacted my friend - PM me if it sounds like the same one (I might still have the hotel details for where he was staying as well).
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Yes Amy, this is the guy and I can add that as soon as alarm bells started ringing I told him I wasn't going to be travelling to see him.
He then said I was obviously I very tetchy lady who obviously had had a really long and tiring day!!!!!! As if I was being unreasonable.
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Yes Amy, this is the guy and I can add that as soon as alarm bells started ringing I told him I wasn't going to be travelling to see him.
He then said I was obviously I very tetchy lady who obviously had had a really long and tiring day!!!!!! As if I was being unreasonable.
Pmsl. When I told my friend about the SAAFE thread on him and she refused to see him, he sent a whopping great pompous text with a (misspelt) list of all his supposed legal qualifications and a stern ticking off about how he was putting food on her table and how dare she repay his kindness by being so distrustful? What a c*nt ;D.
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Pmsl. When I told my friend about the SAAFE thread on him and she refused to see him, he sent a whopping great pompous text with a (misspelt) list of all his supposed legal qualifications and a stern ticking off about how he was putting food on her table and how dare she repay his kindness by being so distrustful? What a c*nt ;D.
If she hears from him again, tell him he's welcome to take SAAFE to court. None of his personal details have been published, indeed, we only have a partial number.
He's welcome to come on here and argue his case. I'd be happy to give the timewasting twit a piece of my mind.
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Thanks to Strawberry for the PM this is the guy who had me over, he pontificated a lot over the whole legal thing also total twaddle, if he does contact anyone please try to get any info you can so we can identify this pest.
I have never felt sio violated as this man made me feel it was awful and would not wish it on any other girl..
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Mr Ward contacted me again today asking once again for an overnight booking at "His place". I mentioned I would require cash upfront. At first he said he'd get the money from the bank Monday morning - the booking was for Sunday night. When I said no-way he made up some excuse saying he'd been ripped off by Escorts before.
This mans policy is definitely not to pay upfront. Still using I***/W******/G**** Ward. Number still 07871942**6.
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Ugh, what a revolting specimen of wank. Had to laugh at these attempts of his to confuse the little ladies with Big Legal Words And Phrases, though!
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This joker's doing the rounds again (and see also here (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=1615.0)) - current mobile number is 07871 9420** (pm for rest) - he actually rang me this afternoon and is currently of the belief that I will be spending the night with him on Thursday at his place in Dronfield, Derbyshire.
To recap for newer ladies, this bloke has been ripping off ladies for some considerable time and tends to ask about long bookings - overnights and longer (he asked me if I would like to stay Friday night with him as well since we would be having such a lovely time and he was such a nice man - I've been sweetness and light throughout ;D) in the Lincolnshire and Derbyshire area; he is always happy to provide security details for outcalls and calls himself Mr Ward, although he has used a few first names (I got the usual one starting with G).
I knew it was him and stated clearly that my overnight outcall fee was ?900 and had to be paid upfront at the start of the booking and he didn't even flinch, but as we know, there would have miraculously been some sort of glitch between then and now and the bank wouldn't let him have it until the next day/after the weekend/nevereverever. He waffles on about how lovely you are and what a romantic time you will have (and has a broad local accent - sounds about 60 and slimy/overfamiliar - even if it had sounded genuine I wouldn't have taken a booking from him for longer than an hour tbh :-X).
He does seem to mainly go for ladies from the North, but everyone needs to be aware of this one. I hope he doesn't get too lonely on Thursday...
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Could anyone who has a number for him please PM me with it? Sounds familiar..think I nearly met him whilst on tour last year ??? Sounded v.genuine, if a bit 'slimy' like Amy said (I love that word). Told me he would have to pay after the booking when I called him on the day to confirm. I told him where to go.
Thanks x
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Told me last year that he was a Barrister & had a place in Derbyshire & London but due to his daughter being home we would have to go to a hotel. Wud pay so much up front but then would have to go to the bank on Monday morning to get the rest!!!! Obviously I said no.
Does he really think he can still get away with this tale!!!?? The stupid moron.
xx
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This man is still around by the way and up to the same tricks.
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He tried to book me about 18 months ago. I knew about him as he has been reported on Northern Angels ladies board. I was not a member of this board then. I strung him along and told him I would meet him in the carpark of a pub/b&b in Derbyshire. I thought at least I could get him to pay for the room and he would be left all alone. He did turn up I think but obviously I didn't. He has a broad Derbyshire accent and goes on and on about how he is going to treat you "like a princess".
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This guy is the one and same in the 'conman' thread and he's still ripping unsuspecting ladies off in the same manner.
Could we combine the two threads admin?
Amber I told him only was I'd see him would be if he gave the cash to my driver who would "look after it"(as a way to test him)....he agreed but I suspected if I turned up he wouldn't have the cash, and would start on one of his "I'll go to the bank on Monday" lines. Funnily enough he always tends to book at/for weekends, with bank holidays a favourite with him. Suppose it gives him his excuses.
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Yes he is he phoned my friend but this time on a withheld number & said it was his work phone. He would obviouly phone her on his own phone when he's charged it up as it was flat at the minute. He gave all the same spiel as before Mr Ward & will let her have his hotel & room number as soon as he has sorted it.
I told her not to even bother with him & told her all about the warnings!! "He sounded so nice & quite posh tho'!!!!" I told her not let that fool her again.
xx
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OK.. Have had a request from a Clive Vaughan who has invited me to travel from the midlands to his luxury apartment (which when I viewed the address on street view is actually a flat above a shop) next Sunday for an overnight. He has promised to treat me like a princess and claims to be an Oxford educated lawyer. Think this is probably the same guy. He reckons he has only just purchased the property so he wont be on the electoral register yet etc..
Number he contacted me on is 07840 391** (Mods - hope this is how you like the number to be given.. If not my apologises).. He has also given me a landline number but as of yet whenever I have rung it it has not been answered.
Needless to say I shan't be going.. Think I will have trouble transferring money from ISA to buy my ticket up there.. And I drive.. lol
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OK.. Have had a request from a Clive Vaughan who has invited me to travel from the midlands to his luxury apartment (which when I viewed the address on street view is actually a flat above a shop) next Sunday for an overnight. He has promised to treat me like a princess and claims to be an Oxford educated lawyer. Think this is probably the same guy. He reckons he has only just purchased the property so he wont be on the electoral register yet etc..
Number he contacted me on is 07840 391** (Mods - hope this is how you like the number to be given.. If not my apologises).. He has also given me a landline number but as of yet whenever I have rung it it has not been answered.
Needless to say I shan't be going.. Think I will have trouble transferring money from ISA to buy my ticket up there.. And I drive.. lol
This guy has scammed someone again, and the person reporting has given me permission to post some details here. I will add that this comes third hand but matches with the information Delicious Delight has;
01246 8604**
078403981**
'Clive' booked an outcall to Chesterfield, Nottinghamshire 2 days and would pay ?3000. He paid her ?150 deposit for the booking into her bank account. When she arrived he tried to ply her with drink, and offered her half the fee in cash, half to be got from the bank in the morning(sounding familiar yet?). She used her marker pen and the ?50 notes were all fake. Apparently the notes would pass a visual test so a warning to us all to use pens. When she confronted him he got very nasty and stole her phone from her bag, she threatened to involve the police and got away. She received abusive texts from him all night.
Apparently the girl booked was from out of the area which also fits with his MO. Basically this man is dangerous.
As I say this has come third hand, I've no reason to disbelieve it though as I'm sure anyone who reads this thread will agree.
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This is very similar to MO for Mr Ward ie promises to pay you after the date from his bank.
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I think he is back, I had a text asking for an outcall overnight and i found this on punternet - this is they guy who tried to contact me
*WARNING....DO NOT SEE THIS MAN...**
This was told to me last night by an experienced working girl and she asked me to warn other girls
01246 860 4**
07840 398 1**
Claims to be rich barrister 58 years old 'clive'
Outcall Playcross, Chesterfield, Nottinghamshire - 2 days #3,000 wanting companion and domination and possibly becoming regular
Booked via daily sport and she was picked as not a local girl. Seems very nce and very convincing on phone, regular calls to discuss, landline number - offered and paid #150 into her account day before to cover trains/expenses and to secure booking
When she arrived he'd already been drinking, and was obviously not who he claimed to be. He was reluctant to hand over any money (which he changed to half now, rest next day when banks open).
He kept trying to ply her with drinks which she refused which really annoyed him (maybe would have spiked her drink?)
When money was handed over she luckily had a marker pen on her which showed to be fake notes - all #50's
**(THESE LOOK VERY REAL AND WOULD EASILY PASS AS REAL ONES)**
when she confronted him he got very nasty at being caught out as didn't expect her to be able to check the money!
She then caught him going through her bag and stealing her mobile, which he denied until she rang her number from her other mobile and it was in his pocket!
She threatened to call the police and luckily managed to get away but was bombarded with lots of very nasty texts from him rest of the night.
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He also targets Suffolk. I had just started in this line of work, in a working house, May 2010. He phoned using the name Geoff Ward, retired barrister, offering me ?3000 I think,(to be paid at the end of booking, transferring from ISA), to come up to Derbyshire for two nights.
He had a northern accent and seemed fairly articulate. I was interested (and naive) so agreed, as long as he would buy my train ticket by credit card to show he was genuine. Big sigh from him and excuses why he couldn't. He kept phoning all the next day, eventually I agreed to go. Like the others, he said he would 'treat me like the princess I was'(I didn't even have a website then, so he had no idea what I looked like), 'give me all the things I deserve' (yeah, clearly he thought I 'deserved' to be ripped off!) He kept wanting long phone conversations, to 'finalise things' and 'get to know each other', during which a daughter was mentioned. If I didn't take his calls he would send whiney texts demanding to know why wouldn't I speak to him, I had let him down etc.
I got on that train to Derbyshire without telling one person where I was going. (idiot!) While on the train, he phoned to make sure I was on my way, then started being really disgusting, asking 'did I like my pussy licked'(eew- got me thinking how sickening I would find him in the flesh).
Someone was looking out for me that day, as the conductor came round and pointed out that I was on the wrong train, so taking the icky phone call into account, I thought bugger this and went home...
When I began working from my own place in Bury st Edmunds, he answered my ad in Ad Trader, requesting my company for two days at his 'holiday home on the Norfolk Broads', he didn't recognise my voice, but I sure as hell recognised his!! He would have been attracted by my ad because it stated that I was 'new'.
I wonder how long this wanker has been doing this, and how much longer he will get away with it?
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When he first tried to book me he gave me an address to a house in Dronfield which was for sale at the time.
New posts suggests he now lives at 'playcross' but i believe this is a mistake meaning Clay Cross in Chesterfield which would be not far from J29
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He is back ............he tried to book me last night saying he was near j29 and today under the name mathew i knew it was him straight away ( as he has tried to book me before) i have just said yes will see you on sunday >>>in his dreams lol if any one want his new number or address pm me and i will send it ......................07938668***
Just thought any one who lives near j29 or in chesterfield especially in clay cross wont be able to book a escort for love or money ;-D
p.s he would make a great estate agent ...........i live in a fabulous period property built in 1876 blah bah ...............when it is above shops on a less than desirable street he said i could even go to the hair dressers there ( as if.... my dog goes to a better looking grooming place ;-D )
edited as forgot to add partial number
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Hi everyone, this idiot is at it again.
He "thinks" he has booked me for an all night on sunday 8pm-9am for ?1000. He contacted me on tuesday and My instincts told me something was wrong. I then searched SAAFE yesterday and found that it may be possible he is the man here. He contacted me again last night, for a further chat and getting addy info etc. I used this time to squeeze out as much info out of him while still letting him think I will turn up on sunday. I made him relax on the phone and he told me all sorts ;) the info I got is posted below.
He told me his name was Lewis R***** (sounds a bit like itchy !) his address is 1*8a high street, clay cross , chesterfield, S45 9**. Phone number 07428***100. He says he doesnt have a land line. Entrance to the house is on the corner of kings street. His house is very near to St Barts church, the old English inn and south hill house residential home for the elderly. He repeated that he lives just off J29 of the M1. He arranged to meet me in a near by lay by , with the idea he will jump in my car and direct me to his house, which he said was hard to find. He told me he has lived at this address for only 3 months, and that his house was built in 1876.... obviously something he think he needs to declare when booking an escort ..!!!!!
He told me that he lived in Bambford, in the hope valley (just outside of sheffield in the derbyshire border) he said he lived in church cottage (opposite the derwent pub) from 1994 till 1999.
He told me that his normal area for punting is Litchfield , Staffordshire.
He describes himself as 5,9", stocky build, with grey hair that was once blonde.
I told him I would ring him on sunday to confirm etc. I am going to let him wait out in the cold in the lay by.
He likes to express how genuine he is, that we will have a marvelous time, that he hasnt ever booked an escort before . I said I would prefer to meet somewhere public first then go on to his gaff.. he quickly popped in the lay by offer and insisted that there were not any decent pubs around there and we would be fine just meeting in the lay by. Of course, if this was a booking that I would of attended, I would NEVER meet a client in a lay by or such like.
To cast back Ladies and Gents, this guy scams girls by saying that he missed the bank and will pay the following day. He has given cash out to an girl only once and that was in duff ?50 notes . Luckily she had been clever and test marked them with a fake note pen and caught him out. Its only a matter of time before he slips up but until then give this dick head a wide birth and watch out for him. He uses several different mobile number and suddo names.
I have thought long if I can catch him out this sunday but because of the law, red tape and my own safety I will be tucked up at home nice and warm. :FF ::) :)
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Hes just txted me asking for 8pm sat eve till 9am mon morning...for ?3000 !!!!!!!!lol of course ive told him i would be delighted !!
GIRLS PLEASE PM ME IF YOU WANT HIS DETAILS
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Hes just txted me asking for 8pm sat eve till 9am mon morning...for ?3000 !!!!!!!!lol of course ive told him i would be delighted !!
GIRLS PLEASE PM ME IF YOU WANT HIS DETAILS
I've checked out the address you gave Petal and it is Mr Ward.
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can everyone who has different names and numbers pm them to me please so I can place another warning ad in the east midlands Admag.
I try to do one everytime this thread gets updated but due to being ill for so long had forgotten for a few months.
So many girls are not on forums so I always put it in the personal section next to the escort ads. (I even got it for free last time as the women working there thinks everyone should be warned yay)
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What an absolute ******* add your own expletives there! Being a localish girl to him I'm hoping I won't have to put up with it as I'm not sure I'd be able to refrain from sending some guys around to see him on my behalf! I have several friends not far from him!
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This chap sent me txt all last night. He started with telling me that as he wanted me all weekend, he had been to the bank and had to transfer 3 grand from a different account and that he wouldnt be able to get my money. Of course, there would of been a sob story about the funds somehow not transfered. Anyway, I told him i expected nothing less and told him its time to stop contacting escorts and trying to rip them off. I told him he was known to all working girls, despite his many different names and numbers he uses. He first replied by saying he was disgusted by what I said. "Mr Ward, your game is up and you would do well to even stop attempting to contact anymore working girls! he then changed and started txting about some woman he had seen saying "what did she expect? " he said she looked like she hadnt eaten in weeks and "at least i gave her bed and breakfast " "she arrived broke and left broke" he said she was a very lucky girl as "most others would of thrown her in the river trent" This guy was completely deluded and didnt deny anything i threw at him, he just keept saying that working girls deserved what they got and rambled about some WG in the past who had obviously pissed him off in some way. I told him again to stay away from WGs or he would end up in trouble with the police for trying to obtain services with deception. Again, lots of txt about how rude the girl he saw was, how she demanded money after their booking (????) and she got what she deserved. His last txt was informing me of no hard feelings, wished me well and told me he had just booked another girl for this weekend.
After all this last night and I have no question in my mind that this guy is mentally unstable big time. I am going to ask admin to change the thread name and post it in a higher position due to the fact this guy has a problem with WGs and keeps on booking them . I fear something terrible will happen to a girl soon whom he manages to book. He is completely unaware of his actions, saying WGs get what they deserve and he will keep booking girls. He didnt seem fazed at all that i had caught him out, he didnt deny anything and just carried on coming back with txt about how he been wronged.
PLEASE LADIES, IF YOU KNOW OTHER GIRLS WHO ARE NOT MEMBERS ON SAAFE CAN YOU PLEASE URGE THEM BE VERY VERY CAUTIOUS AND GIVE THEM AS MUCH INFO ON THIS GUY AS POSSIBLE.
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Ladies, Ive just spoken to someone at Derbyshire Police force. I am really worried about this guy after last nights dealing with him. I gave the police officer all the info I had on him. I told her of all the things that have happened to Escorts when he has booked with them. I told her I was an escort and that this bloke needed to be on record/logged. She was very helpful and said new girls will prob be his easy target. She told me that if anyone wanted to report him afer having had bad dealings with him, to contact Derbyshire Police. I do hope some of the girls that have had money stolen from him, given fake notes, been spiked or decieved etc to come forward. This man needs stopping. 3 years this has been going on and he needs to be stopped.
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I can't believe it I've just got off the phone from this loser! He rang last night and text twice looking for an outcall that evening but I wasn't working, I actually mentioned this in a thread earlier today!!! He's hoping I'll go and see him tomorrow night for a 12 hour outcall (fees haven't been discussed!) I explained I would have to get back to him so he awaits my text! >:( It wasn't until we got to the end of the conversation when I remembered this thread and Clay Cross! I couldn't get off the phone soon enough! Wonder if I can suggest to some of my friends who live nearby they may want to pay him a visit!!! Unbelievable!
Edited to add more information rather than starting a new post.
I've just read through this thread from top to bottom again and can confirm that he is using a mobile number listed several times still but is using the name Lewis, no surname given.
He has since I first posted now given me his full home address in Clay Cross (as quoted several times) and he suggested the lay by etc etc as he has done to other girls. I must say that as soon as the alarm bells started ringing I wasn't listening (or couldn't hear for the alarming noise!) everything said but the key words from this thread certainly popped up!
I've text him back saying that I'm free tomorrow night for an overnight booking and to say I'd need his full name and landline number as well as a 50% deposit paid through paypal. His reply was that he would text me later so will let you know if I hear from him again!
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This guy has just contacted me to book me for an overnight. He says he has transferred money from his isa and will be waiting there on monday at the bank...do you want me to give the details he is using now?
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He is still going by lewis and is using a phone number and address which has already been posted on this thread. He has been at me for weeks to meet him, and finally wore me down!
He is still going strong and says he has another new booking next week too :(
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OMG I can't believe this guy is still doing this!!! :o
I met him around 5 years ago and he was using the moneys not gone through but I can get it for you first thing line then! And he was claiming to be a well educated barrister, lovely home in the peak district but his daughter had come and stayed longer then planned... He really didn't like the idea of a driver (I tell them all I have one even if I don't). And for all his supposed money it was a chain hotel and the 'slap up meal in a choice restaurant' was to be in the pub next door!
He spent a lot of time calling and texting to 'get to know' me which was very tiresome. As previous girls have said he didn't like it if I wasn't available to chat.
And he gets stroppy if you walk away...
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The thing is he doesn't remember that he's already phoned you. He's a tryer!!!!
xx
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The names and numbers he's been using that people know of are on this thread, albeit in incomplete form - we can't post the full identifying details as everybody should know. Anybody thinking they may have been contacted by this man should use the Search facility to check the phone number as usual (and since his MO is always the same, even having a different one would be unlikely to get past anybody who's read this topic).
If newbies are aware of this site (and the warning section) they shouldn't have too much trouble finding this thread, and there is a similar one on Punternet. There isn't any need to keep bumping it with chit chat, speculation and other off topic discussion that belongs in PMs, and further posts which don't add any useful information (as per the rules and along with the other threads on this board) will be removed. Again.
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Hi Ladies
i was contacted by this man last night asking for an overnight chesterfield, derbyshire.
I was nearly falling for it all aswell but insisted on a deposit but then he goes on today saying he is a lawyer bla bla and far too busy and i should be more trusting i was actually feeling guilty!!! full of compliments liike the other girls said
first he wanted over night wednesday then after a few exchanged texts he was saying he was going away friday and could i possibly stay untill then and he would give me ?3000!!
i had planned a driver in the hope he'd pay deposit today but then he said he wouldnt and it was the driver who noticed this thread - thank god and sent me the link over.... (never thought to check on here tut tut !!)
ohhh i feel mad for feeling sorry for the little rat for asking for a deposit!!! :FF
he clearly knows what he,s doing .... what posses these men to do this i do not know or understand!!!! makes it hard for the geniune guys out there
anyway his number is 074286261**
the address was.. high st chesterfield derbyshire S45 ***
Hes actually calling me tonight at 8 pm for a chat !!!
jade xxx
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Hello All,
I am new on saafe but when I read this message, yes it reminder me of 2 years ago, this same fat man calling himself G**** ward contacted me. He always seem to want you to go late on sunday so that you have no means of getting home.
I told him i would travelling in the evening but the next day cause I have never met before. The lucky things is I am based in Yorkshire. He told me a was staying in a beautiful 5 star hotel in the middle of derbyshire. I don't think anybody will be surprised when I tell you that Mr Ward was staying in a pub in a middle of a small village. I asked him for the money and he said showing my his ISA account that he will transfer the money. I then told him that I do not give my personal details out to everybody.
That is time he started getting nasty calling me name and saying that he has the money. He dropped me at a train station in the middle of anywhere and I managed to get back home safely.
A few month later I was at the cheltenham races with a friend, he called her telling her the same rubbish. I had told her to ask him for cash upfront but same old stories. But to make the matters worse he telling lies to her that he didn't pay me cause I would not stay until the next day to get the money. So that he can con me of a free overnight. No thanks
She had a lucky escaped and sorry to hear that he is still at large a couple of years later. but he targets mainly newspaper advertisers.
Warmest Regards
Chloe xx
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The -UCKWIT has just called me again he has lost the plot his apartment north chesterfield waiting for bt to give phoneline only 20quid on train return Manchester told him get lost yet again Annax
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Hi, iv known about this Mr Ward for a while, he lives in Dronfield, wish i knew where but thats all i know, he did the same to me, he had me travelling down to the Norfolk Broads from Sheffield (this was arranged by a not so nice escort who i think was in on it but cant remember her name) and basically got down there, got the same "im a lawyer" blah blah, got there on the friday, he wanted me to stay till the following wednesday and that he was having the money wired down to him for the wednesday, i knew then it was a scam and basically he kicked me out the next morning with no money, i just had enough to get me home, he a nasty nasty man and i would pay to find out where the f"""r is!!!!
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The house in high street, clay cross has a sign outside it saying contact police or landlord re G Ward. I can get a photo if need be, he owes many people money. I doubt he is still there with that sign on the door but i can check with landlord.
His old address was dronfield, unless he has moved again there.
There is a indian take away on the corner.
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The house in high street, clay cross has a sign outside it saying contact police re G Ward.
His old address was dronfield, unless he has moved again there.
There is a indian take away on the corner.
Blue, if there is a specific phone number or email address on this sign (or any instructions as to which police force to contact and how) can you please PM me with it? I'll send them links to the Warnings threads, just in case they haven't seen them all.
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Not for the police but I have called clay cross police station direct as I was worried someone with end up murdered!
I have a contact number for the landlord only.
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Landlord confirms G**** ward is still at flat on High Street, he paid his rent last week to the landlord.
So girls he is still at Clay Cross address. Have told Landlord I will carry on warning people.
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warning to all girls inthe sheffield rotherham n chesterfield area theres a gent who books overniters n claims the money will be transfered p;aid the next day he lives in chesterfield names so far louis or harry a barrister do not fall for it as he doesnt pay ive been conned along with many others he seems so genuine anyone with info email me cass
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Same thing has happened to me, I went to clay cross late at night at a weekend and he claimed he would get the money out of his bank account when it cleared, after having told me he would have the money ready, then suprise suprise the moneys "not gone through yet". if anyone has information on him contact derbyshire police as i have. email/pm me if you have any info on him or want info off me, he needs to be sent down! can anyone with contact numbers pm me x
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can you pm me the contact details anyone, i saw this guy 2 weeks ago and wasnt paid :(
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Ladies BEWARE Mr Ward is at work again and has tried to scam myself and another lady but we are way to clever for this piece of shit. You can't kid a kidder and his attempts at trying to scam us completely backfired on him with hilarious results seriously though he really needs a few heavies to beat the crap out of him and leave him tied up on the Moors to rot in hell. Why he hasn't been captured truly baffles me! Can't the vice squad or CID do something to nail him. He's danagerous and breaking the law!! His current number is 074120548**
Stay safe and be on your guard :) :)
Hugs
B x :) :)
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His two new numbers are 079386686** and 074286261** and he's in chesterfield and also found this on him [removed]
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Hello girls,
I had the pleasure of speaking to said MR ward, he is calling himself HARRY now and is using this phone number 074286261**
He has given me an address in Chesterfield, I don't know if I am allowed to post it here but if you want the address, please send me a message.
Thanks,
Riya
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Mr Ward, or should I say Harry, is back again! Just had a lengthy text from him asking for an overnight booking tomorrow! He clearly doesn't keep track of who he's tried to extort! Number using still is 079386686**
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Hi,
Ive been contacted by a gentlemman called Harry, claiming he is a barrister, same number as the previous post. he wants an overnight booking, asked me to get the beverages and he will pay me the money by taking me to Barclays bank in chesterfield tomorrow morning.
address given is clay cross.
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Hi,
Ive been contacted by a gentlemman called Harry, claiming he is a barrister, same number as the previous post. he wants an overnight booking, asked me to get the beverages and he will pay me the money by taking me to Barclays bank in chesterfield tomorrow morning.
address given is clay cross.
I must hold my hands up and admit that I told him where to go last night after his text. I know I should have just ignored him but I was in a bad mood!!!! Do not have anything to do with this man Serenity! He is on a mission to con as many girls as he can in revenge of apparently being conned himself by girls, paraphrasing but that's what he told me via text last night! He is one very unstable man!
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ive just txt him saying change of plan, need payment up front and that i would pass it onto my driver who would take it home,
he txt saying that id let him down blah blah, then i txt saying that ive seen 6 pages of warnings about him and called him mr ward, hes replied rubbish. and then said names not ward its morley.
ive replied that dating back to 2009 isw alot of rubbish and that surname was mention but the address he gave is tenanted to a mr ward.
waiting for a reply...
do i need to contact the police with the info
Just received a reply that he has only purchased the property 4 weeks ago and i need to get my facts straight.
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Well firstly, don't waste your credit (or your free texts) replying to him any more - block his number if you can or he'll drive you round the bend.
You can contact the police by all means and ask if they're looking for information about him - I know it's not the first time somebody has. You (and everybody else) can also report him to National Ugly Mugs (http://www.uknswp.org/ugly-mugs/), especially since he often targets women who don't live in his immediate area, and that would get all the incidents put together on record.
And Serenity, you ALWAYS need your payment up front :).
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I always get my payment upfront normally, but although i was unsure i accepted that he would give me the money tomorrow, as others have said hes very believable.
I wont txt him anymore, he thinks im based in derby whereas im actually based near chesterfield myself.
thanks for your help.
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Serenity he's contacted me several times. Has as been said he forgets who he's contacted. The time before last he said he hadn't got a landline cos he'd only just moved into his property 4 weeks previously!! He's just a knob!!
He's been at it years. But there are still some girls who still fall for it. As if you're going to be daft enough to not get paid up front.
xx
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He must be forgetful alright - the silly twat's texting me (again) as we speak. Tosser.
LOL.
xx
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He is at it again goes by the name of Harry this time. Number 07*386686** be very vary of this guy said I wouldn't meet him and he became very aggressive.
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its a good job really he can be detected with crap spelling and voice..
he sounds weird and he would be very hard work..
wonder if he actually has met any GRIL..
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Hello all,,
Thank you for the recent information about this sick man. He sent me a text yesterday stating that he has seen my profile and wanted an overnight for Wednesday night south of Sheffield an area I do not cover. Staying at his apartment 29 M1. He illustrates that he is a "very genuine, honest and above all reliable man". Please let me know your thoughts and will look for to hearing from you very soon, kind regards Harry. Over my dead body, I read his message and realised who it was so checked the latest number and his new adopted name.
He is not a very clever man targeting the same ladies grrrrrrr. He can wait for my reply when hell freezes over silly fool.
Thank you again
Chloe xxxxx
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Just had a text from him saying he found my profile intriguing/stunning and he'd like an overnight this coming Sunday . Emphasised he was a reliable easy going person etc. - sounded pleasant. Said he had his own apartment j21 south of Sheffield.
Literally just sat down to plan logistics I.e how much train fare would cost etc so I'd know what deposit to ask for, and decided to check number in Saafe. Didn't even get to the national rail website :)
I text him back asking for full deposit of my fee as he had a rather prolific history of contravening section 1 of the Theft Act 1978. His response, "sorry not aware". Eejit!
A few hours later he sent a very angry/aggressive text (unprovoked) all in caps, some thing about "he had never theft of no one (sic) print cannot lie, but liars can print". (Your guess is as good as mine ladies ::))
Number same as in previous posts 0779386686**
I have a feeling he gets drunk quite a bit, hence the rambling and abusiveness.
He's sent me the exact same this evening, to which I've sent back a polite response declining his offer.
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I went totally numb and i shuddered as though a ghost has walked over my grave from reading pages and pages of MR WARD. I hope many of you read and take note of what i am about to say and pass onto all your friends / colleagues that are escorts.
6 weeks ago i was working from Doncaster (Usual place is Nottm), my bf was on a lads hol and my best mate lives up there so i thought i would work up there so i could be close to her while bf was away. On the first day (tues) i was there at teatime, i had a call from a man who called himself HARRY. He asked me for an overnight the next night (weds), i explained i couldnt as i had plans, but i could do this night. He went on in a long and rammbled conversation to explain that he couldnt get my funds until weds morning as he has to withdraw the money from his savings account and the bank was now closed. ***Saying this now i know how stupid i sound, it is also the hardest thing i have had to do write this post***. For some unknown reason, i trusted and believed him. He used lines such as "If there is one person you can trust its me love", and "I never let people down". I was so fixated on my overnight fee getting paid which is ?650 that as i sat down to eat at my mates, we talked over it to make sure i wasnt making a mistake. She said i could call her through the night if anything happened and her and her bf would be right round.
I arranged to meet MR WARD in a lay by opposite a big church in Chesterfield at half 9, because his flat would be hard to find otherwise. I drove past him and my exact thoughts in my head were "WHAT A DIRTY OLD FAT F******G T***"!!!!
But being so desperate for the money i turned my car around and picked him up. I asked him to direct me to a garage so i could buy some cigarettes, then he couldnt find his way back, turns out we ended up back at the garage again as he had no tea bags, i never drink when on a job.
We got back to his flat and parked around the corner, theres a chinese shop next door to his flat, some of you might recognise what im saying here and i hope to god he hasnt done to alot of you what he has to me. What he has done as well as something else, which i cannot say until the end, will MESS me up for the rest of my whole life, and its not about "Only if you let it!" some of us arent as strong as the others.
We went inside and i can describe the flat as one you would typically find junkies squatting in. The furniture completley mis-matched and just generally a SESS-PIT! Through the night i found out actually he was ok to talk to and a good listener, for every cup of tea i had, he sank 3-4 cans of ale. I am never comfortable when a client drinks in front of me with the amount he drank, and his drinking was very unusual to my clients in the past 3 years of doing this job. As the night went on, i felt so utterly disgusting about myself, i had a hunch something wasnt right, but i stayed, despite what he did i endured the whole night there and took the bullc**p he gave the morning after.
We carried on talking until about half 12 and he asked me to sit on his knee he forced his dirty disgusting tongue inside my mouth and had a bit of a forceful grope. Whilst the evening had been ongoing and through those dragged out hours (on my part) of conversation we were sat at a dining table and with me having ME and an extreme bad back, with failed back surgery, i asked if i could move to the sofa. I had kept my long thick coat on and buttoned all the way up all evening.
For my own reasons i cannot go into the whole details of what happened, but as i am sure he has done to some of you HE RAPED ME, with a condom for his own personal benefit for the was no DNA to be found. I endured the night downstairs, cramped up on his 2 seater sofa with only my coat to keep me warm. I awoke the next morning to a cup of tea he made me and to him sticking his penis in my face at least twice, the behaviour of a typical pervert and groomer. I was so numb, in shock and dead inside from what he had done to me, yet i was too scared to run. I could have had the chance if i wasnt bothered of being paid my fee of ?650 - youre all probably going to sit and laugh at how stupid i sound, but at that time i was non the wiser of what he planned. I drove him to the bank, yet got NOTHING for petrol money, as i was under the false pretense he was actually paying me ?2000!! We parked up and he showed me a statement showing his bank figure at ?63,000. He then told me he would go into the bank later on with his daughter and again another stupidity of me gave him my full name, sort code and account no. I left him there and drove to my mates house. I didnt tell my friend that he had raped me, i didnt say a word, i was just dead inside.
I told her i couldnt and didnt want to communicate with him at all and so using my work mob, she exchanged several texts with him that morning explaining how i really needed that money to be in by 1pm and if it wasnt i would have the police round there for it. loads of texts exchanged he had the ordasity to text "me" saying he doesnt take kindly to threats, he had put a roof over my head (I HAD A HOTEL AND OR MY MATES HOUSE TO STAY!!) and he has paid it in. During the day the money wasnt showing, so the circle of lies kept getting bigger, i waited until the next monday, not giving up on the slightest hope that it might be in there, and then i came to be honest with myself and realise i would never get it. It then took me another 6 days to be able to tell my mum and bf what had happened and the police were called a few days later by my doctor.
Why did it take me so long to make the call?? When you have already been a victim of rape twice before and the police failed to prosecute, you give up hope and all faith in justice and blame yourself everyday for the rest of your life.
6 weeks later here i am, the first i have head of this site was last night when the 2 detectives from Clay Cross CID were at my house. They were both involved from day one, and last night i find out why and thats because this RAPIST, HARRY as he called himself to me has done this many times before. The CID came to me and gave me ten sheets of print out from this website, but wouldnt let me read it (WHAT A JOKE!!), and then they went on to call me a LIAR, by then with the other problems i have going on mentally and pyhsically in my life i was RAGING, my blood boiled as they then went to say they have arrested him but he cannot be taken to court through lack of DNA - so thats another sucessful RAPE done by MR HARRY by wearing a condom!!! Not by me not reporting it quick enough at all. I openly said to them that the day before i had admitted to my mum, bf and 2 consultants that someday i am going to put a bullet in my brain if i dont get the help i need and i am entitled to. So in front of the CID not giving a rats A*** what they think, that one day i am going to KILL THE RAPIST, and then kill myself. Thats a proper genuine promise not attention seeking. I ran out in sheer hysterics and disappointment to my friends that when i returned with my bf there was 2 police cars on my close, and one officer in my room going through all my things!! I kicked up a massive fuss and verbally abused all 6 police inc the 2 from CID that they threatened to arrest me!!! The sheer cheek, the can arrest and put me inside but they wont take this RAPIST off the streets despite doing this to hundreds, yes hundreds of girls and committing ?20,000 of benefit fraud, to which he also got away with.
I really hope you listen to what i have written on here, it has taken nearly 3 hrs to write, but im hoping some of you will avoid this guy in the future. IF THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ANY OF YOU, EVEN ONE OF YOU, I BEG YOU WITH ALL OF MY BROKEN HEART TO COME FORWARD TO THE CID AT CLAY CROSS. I dont have alot of fight in me, but if there is someone else out there then we can NAIL THIS B******* TOGETHER!!!!!!
Charli x
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PS i hope some of you have read my reply already and i forgot to add some major details, shows how off my mind is from last nights incident....HE IS SHORT, FAT AND HAS SOME GREY / WHITE HAIR. HAS GLASSES, DRINKS ALOT OF BEER / ALES. TOLD ME IS A SOLICITOR, HAS A FLAT IN CLAY CROSS WHICH I HAVE THE ADDRESS FOR LADIES, AND SAID IT WAS GETTING RE-FURBED - TURNS OUT HE DONT EVEN OWN IT AND HE IS NOT A SOLICITOR AT ALL. HE ALSO SAYS HE HAS A HOUSE IN STAFFORDSHIRE AND A FLAT IN STRAND. IF ANY OF YOU WANT HIS ADDRESS OR PHONE NO PM ME X
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Charli I can't put into words very well what I want to say to you after your experience and post, do not stop at the CID though, I'm not sure of help specifically for escorts in the Nottingham area (despite being based in Derbyshire) but could I suggest you contact Rape Crisis http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/ and seek support from them for starters.
I've had contact with this low life several times including a bit of a nasty exchange not that long ago, sadly I am not able to provide any evidence against him to things going on in my personal life at the moment but there HAS to be a way to get this *add your own expletives* somehow with all the evidence!!!!
I can't believe he's still allowed to get away with all this!
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He isn't 'allowed' to behave like this, but until enough people report him and come forward to give evidence, his behaviour will continue unchecked because everybody is relying on somebody else doing the difficult stuff.
Can we remember that this is not a discussion section and stay on topic, please. Only information pertaining to the warning topic is to be posted in this section.
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Hi, iv known about this Mr Ward for a while, he lives in Dronfield, wish i knew where but thats all i know, he did the same to me, he had me travelling down to the Norfolk Broads from Sheffield (this was arranged by a not so nice escort who i think was in on it but cant remember her name) and basically got down there, got the same "im a lawyer" blah blah, got there on the friday, he wanted me to stay till the following wednesday and that he was having the money wired down to him for the wednesday, i knew then it was a scam and basically he kicked me out the next morning with no money, i just had enough to get me home, he a nasty nasty man and i would pay to find out where the f"""r is!!!!
I know EXACTLY where he lives because i am one of the mugs that fell for his lines and i got alot more cr*p than just being conned!! :( see pg 7 on this thread hun. Wish someone else would come forward and help the CID nail him and give this monster what he deserves :FF :FF :FF :FF :FF >:( :( :'(
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Hes just phoned me tonight, 4th time this year. saying he has just bought a property...the infamous no 138a but says he normally lives in Staffs
No mention this time of paying me the morning after. Calling himself Edward. Will this horrific man ever be stopped?
Hopefully he will never change his mobile number so all the ladies reading this can avoid him.
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Hi there,
A few weeks ago I was contacted by a Mr Ward, calling himself William. I have since looked him up on 192.com and his name is Mr G******* W****** Ward. He invited me to his house for the weekend at <edit> Clay Cross, Chesterfield, Derbyshire. I stayed with him for the weekend and he promised to transfer the funds into my account, which never materialised. He told me that he was a Barrister, and even introduced me to one of his friends in a local pub who backed up his story. He was not abusive or aggresive, but did scam me out of the money he promised me. He does own the property he took me to, although he doesn't live there during the week. The number he called me from was 079386686**. He is ages between 55 and 59 and claims to have two grown up children and a wife that passed away over 10 yrs ago. It would seem that the house we stayed in is set up for an elderly person, his Mother passed away a while back and he was given the property as an inheritance. [removed].
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This guys is a total knob who forgets who he has texted. I have pages and pages of texts on my Iphone form him and everytime it is a fdifferent name he uses. William, Harry, richard, elliot Ritchie and so on and so on.
even when I told him I know who he is (big mistake as tons of texts arrived after) he just said he is doing nothing wrong as even if he said he would pay and doesnt there is nothing that can be done. His answer was tell all the women who have complained to take me to court and we will see who is in the right
He is a cocky arehole and best to be avoided.
Remember one thing. Cash up front. No pay no play
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MR G W WARD!!! Phone 0793886686**(i know him as WILLIAM)
5ft 9 - overweight - aged 58 (birthday 24th Feb) -
Barrister - supposedly works in Chesterfield - Lincoln & Derby
A very strong northern accent
He drinks alot, eats alot & smokes alot!!!
He lives at the address girls have quoted - 1*** High St, Clay Cross, Derbyshire
(flat is above a chinese & indian takeaway)
Has son & daughter - son in America - Daughter & husband lives an hour away
Wife passed away many years ago
Has property in Norwich, Lincoln & North Wales
I wish to god I had checked this site at the time of his contact with me at the end of October.
I am still in communication with him & I am extremely embarassed to say I have been gullible to his words
But I have to admit to it so girls out there knows he is still in action.
I asked for a deposit to go spend the weekend with him but he gave the excuse that he would pay on the Monday.
At the time, I trusted him & I agreed to stay with him as at the time I was convinced a QC Barrister would not lie to me.
The weekend went ok & glad to say there was hardly any sexual activity which suited me.
To this day I am still waiting for the funds he owes me
Every time the funds were supposed to be deposited into my account he comes up with another reason why it hasn't & it was always about his funds being tied up in ISAs/Bonds & High Interest accounts with Barclays Bank/Bank of Scotland.
Why I believed him I don't know ? I feel such a complete idiot for relying on him.
Yesterday was the final straw when he came up with another excuse why the funds have not been deposited into my account
I am not happy as I have not paid my rent & I am in financial difficulties/
Over the last two months he has reassured me that he would not let me down & will never let me get evicted etc.
He frequently said he was a good man - that it was not his intention to cause hurt or ill feeling & that I had nothing to worry about as all is fine with the funds.
I honestly believed him as he seemed so genuine at first - although I must admit I did get alarm bells when the funds failed to materialise time & time again> Unless he finally comes up with the funds by next Tuesday then he has LIED 100x over from day one!
To be honest I think I was trying to convince myself that I was not gullible enough to be conned.
I am so angry with myself for falling for this trap.
This morning after a very restless night I decided to google his name & came across the info on here.
I am already a member on here & I am kicking myself for not checking this site when funds did not materialise the first time.
It would have saved me the stress in recent weeks.
This man has got to be stopped
Surely the police can get him arrested for this.
I hate to say that I am glad i am not the only one that has been fooled by him simply because I am totally & extremely embarassed by this. Wish all of girls who have been conned by him could go visit him!
SOmehow i am going to make his life hell.
Stay safe & be on your guard = some crazy men out there! NO PAY NO DEPOSIT = NO PLAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why the hell wont any of you report this to CID at clay cross police station??? None of you are helping anyone including yourselves!!!
Quite frankly youre all moaning about this horrible evil monster, if more of you went to the police, they would bang him up, even if not for rape then for obtaining services with deception!!!!
what is wrong??????
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Ladies, this guy has just contacted me again this morning to make enquiries for an overnight booking at his apartment in Chesterfield. He's still using the same number 079386686** and going by the name of Steve.
It rang a warning bell as soon as I read the text, and sure enough, he rears his ugly mug on here.
I've text him back saying that I need a ?100 deposit first. I'd love to stitch this arsehole up if any other ladies have any ideas? The best I can think of is confirming the o/n for tomorrow evening and then just leave him hanging around like a spare part. I suspect though that mentioning a deposit will put him off.
Just goes to show that we can never let our guard down, and thank god this idiot doesn't have the nouce to keep changing his number. :P
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Ladies, this guy has just contacted me again this morning to make enquiries for an overnight booking at his apartment in Chesterfield. He's still using the same number 079386686** and going by the name of Steve.
It rang a warning bell as soon as I read the text, and sure enough, he rears his ugly mug on here.
I've text him back saying that I need a ?100 deposit first. I'd love to stitch this arsehole up if any other ladies have any ideas? The best I can think of is confirming the o/n for tomorrow evening and then just leave him hanging around like a spare part. I suspect though that mentioning a deposit will put him off.
Just goes to show that we can never let our guard down, and thank god this idiot doesn't have the nouce to keep changing his number. :P
Or it could give him fodder to refuse to pay a deposit in future.
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I've just spent 30 minutes reading back through this entire thread. There's only been a couple of times he's agreed to pay a small deposit and several ladies have caught him trying to palm them off with fake notes. He said he didn't have the means to pay me a small deposit, so I suggested he emailed me an amazon voucher instead....surprise, surprise he's gone all quiet on me now.
It's so frustrating that the local police are well aware of this con, yet he's allowed to keep getting away with the same well-worn scam. Surely there must be a way of bringing him bang to rights?? Enough ladies say they have reported him to the police so there should be plenty of collaboration for them to go on.
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He moves on to his next victim if you ask for a deposit if he's not able to 'persuade' you he's completely genuine so don't worry about giving him fodder!
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It's so frustrating that the local police are well aware of this con, yet he's allowed to keep getting away with the same well-worn scam. Surely there must be a way of bringing him bang to rights?? Enough ladies say they have reported him to the police so there should be plenty of collaboration for them to go on.
The thing is what do they arrest him for. Its not as if they can even call it fraud as even in a county court an immoral contract is not upholdable. They only have the escorts word he did not pay and all they can do is tell you to try your luck in county court as it is not a criminal offense to owe someone money. If it was they would be arresting everyone with debt.
he knows this as in one of the many texts exchanges I have had with him (he forgets who he has text and what name he has used but I have an Iphone so they are all grouped together) I actually told him I knew he would not pay me as he is well known and his response was that he has been spoken to by the police and they have told him it is not a criminal offense to not pay someone. It is a civil matter. He also knows civil courts do not uphold immoral contracts
He has basically been told he can carry on doing this as he cant be arrested for it. The police also told him and showed him a print out of this thread on here as he mentioned it to me with a big HA HA HA HA at the end of his text.
Basically until he breaks the law nothing can be done apart from to warn as many girls as possible.
My local paper is really good and puts an ad in once a month about being aware there is a man who asks for overnights and says will pay the next day but no money ever changes hands but they cant put his name or number in it.
All we can do is warn everyone in our own areas and hope eventualy no one takes his bookings
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I just got a message from mr ED inviting me over the Easter, to his apartment in Chesterfield, Derbishire :D
Lol, he has some guts
I dont think the police can charge him with something if hes still trying his con
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This guy contacted me as well yesterday, same number as above. He seemed to forget that he also contacted me a few months ago. I wouldn't go last time because he refused to pay a deposit and glad I didn't go now I have seen this!. I confronted him about who he was and he just kept saying in broad yorkshire accent "well you know..I'm just a nice, genuine guy me" ...hmm I said are you now!..suffice to say the booking isn't going ahead!
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Beware girls he is at large again. wanted me to go to Clay Cross and the though ay up it's our pla Old Wardy. Haven't got number for him as mislaid workphone and had to have a new sim but he sends a text next day saying how genuine he is, yeah rrright!! I nearly texted him back and said 'Do one Mr Ward'!
stay safe from this Monster girls!
M x
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Hi all just had a call of a mr ward asking for a overnighter problem is he can.t pay me till tomorrow morn is no is 079386686** and yes he still at it !!!!
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Im sorry its just when he rang me up being polite but to me he sounded he was on something cos he was slurring abit in his words. And went on to tell me I no need for a driver just get the red arrow it drops me outside his luxury apartment cos he gets that bus all the time to crown court everyday for work and that I come with him tomorrow to the bank and get the ?1.000 pd for my fees and he keeping to his word no ill harm will come to me mmm And as for the police mr ward not so bothered or afraid of them cos he keeps doing it. Its lucky I been at this profestion long time to know. But he is very convincing im worried at moment who he's scamming hun !!!
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Im sorry its just when he rang me up being polite but to me he sounded he was on something cos he was slurring abit in his words. And went on to tell me I no need for a driver just get the red arrow it drops me outside his luxury apartment cos he gets that bus all the time to crown court everyday for work and that I come with him tomorrow to the bank and get the ?1.000 pd for my fees and he keeping to his word no ill harm will come to me mmm And as for the police mr ward not so bothered or afraid of them cos he keeps doing it. Its lucky I been at this profestion long time to know. But he is very convincing im worried at moment who he's scamming hun !!!
If you could put the above number you posted in the right format it might prevent others from falling prey to him too.
The number needs to be in this format 0123456789**
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Ha ha it was funny when I received this
hi lovely,this is William ,have been browsing your profile to find what a abusolutely lovely,stunning amazing sexy lady you are,hence would. like to ask if you may be interested in spending some quality time together this coming weekend from Saturday 6 th July -Monday 8 th July 2 night inclusive venue,hotel,chapel-st-Leonard.s,nr Skegness ,lincolnoshire,very genuine,honest and above all reliable,I get on with most people in life and very approachable please let me know your thought and I will look forward to hearing from you soon,kind regards William
He is still using the same number 079386686**, he called but did not bother to pick up ;D :D
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Bonita I have removed the last two digits of the phone number you posted. Please read the rules before posting a warning
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When this guy contacted me, I thought maybe I'd hit the kackpot! But the sudden bank issue were major alarm bells. I almost let my financial issues as a student get the better of me, but thank goodness for saafe. The fact that this scum bad is still out and about doing his dirty work is ridiculous, something has to be done.
A profile I have of him, that is pretty reminiscent of what is already posted here.
Name: G**** W****** Ward
Age: 57
Occupation: Lawyer, specialises in divorce, criminal and prison law.
Home and other mentioned locations/properties: Lives in Chesterfield, holidays in Skegness and Derbyshire. Properties near Lancashire and North Wales.
Other details: has a daughter living in Worksop with a husband.
Booking Request: Overnight for 1000gbp, in Chesterfield and another 3000gbp for a weekend in Derbyshire.
Sweettalk: he usually inisist that he is 'genuine', 'approachable', 'likable' and 'straightforward'. Also seeks to empathise with you, agreeing to take care of you, to quote him, he said that I "will be well looked after." He has a strong Yorkshire accent, and has been in touch for several days now through calls and texts. He requested services like Period Play, Shaving of his privates and Spanking, as well as a host of other things. Disturbingly, he alluded to wanting unprotected sex, insisting that he was clean, but I insisted on protection so he quickly dropped the matter. 8)
This man works his charm by trying to sound as kind and generous as is possible, do not fall for it. Sooner or later, you will grow suspicious of him, when the money is mentioned.
REMEMBER NO PAY = NO PLAY.
My booking with him is tonight at 6;40, will be meeting him at Chesterfield St, or so he thinks... ;)
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SS, it sounds as if he contacted you via AW - do you have a nickname or user ID for him (I'm assuming this because you haven't included a mobile number, so apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick and can you add it, please?)
EDIT: I'd also point out that whilst he always claims to be a lawyer or barrister, the standard of his English in texts I have received over the years would suggest otherwise in terms of the level of general education he's actually attained.
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SS, it sounds as if he contacted you via AW - do you have a nickname or user ID for him (I'm assuming this because you haven't included a mobile number, so apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick and can you add it, please?)
EDIT: I'd also point out that whilst he always claims to be a lawyer or barrister, the standard of his English in texts I have received over the years would suggest otherwise in terms of the level of general education he's actually attained.
I think booking request was simply a term the OP is using because she does say they communicated by a series of texts and phone calls.
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Hi
I have just received a text from this man requesting an overnight booking for tomorrow. Venue Chesterfield, Derbyshire (Junc 29 M1).
He is using the name Geoff tel number 079386686**
Emma x x
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I just had a lovely call from the the infamous Mr Ward. Wants to book me for 2 days in Chesterfield. I told him half up front and a copy of hotel booking. He doesn't have an email address..or deposit due to ISA etc..
Same old same. I told him no deposit or email...No Selina. If he can't I'm not interested. Seems to have a new no. I don't know any barrister that calls criminal law (prison law). Divorce is Marimonial etc..
Merry Christmas ladies.
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I have reason to believe he's just tried to book me, text message almost word for word as the one he sent Bonita and EscortS. Called himself Harry, 2 day outcall to Chesterfield IBIS (north) when I said I'd be requiring the name he'd be booking the hotel under he said it was Harry Ward.
I told him I would not be seeing him ::) I did tell him I knew who he was and he's sent what he thinks is an abusive text. ::)
079238099**
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I can't believe this guy is still getting away with this!
He contacts me every 6 months or so and each time its as if he can't remember speaking to me previously. (but with the amount of girls he contacts theres no wonder)
Almost fell for it with the first contact. Only his name gave it away?i remembered it from reading this site!
THANK YOU SAAFE GIRLIES!!
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What a dreadfully sad man.
This fool rang me Tuesday 25th February asking me to spend the coming weekend with him at a hotel in Chesterfield.
Instant alarm bells, gave me all the cheesy compliments of having such a nice profile (recently submitted on adultzone), beautiful pics, gorgeous girl- blah, blah, blah.
Told him I was unable to commit to a full weekend and why not just book an hour or two.
He sounds plausible but totally sleazy, trying to win you over with the shit that just falls out of his mouth.
An obvious smoker and just way over the top, emphasising how he is such a genuine guy, not a timewaster at all and how I'm going to have such a fabulous time with him.
He says he's staying at the hotel in Chesterfield till Thursday as he's in the area on business, then going home and will return to the same hotel on Saturday, but would I do the overnighter on Sunday. He even text the hotel details, directions to the hotel from the M1, and that he will text the room number on Saturday once he's checked in and gave me his name- Geoff Ward.
Saddo rings yesterday afternoon just for 'a chat' and to see what I'm 'up to'. Says he's in Lincolnshire today- he's there on holiday!!
Erm, not the best of liars as he's clearly not able to remember that he should be telling me he's in Chesterfield not Lincolnshire- DOH!
Make a mental note and cruelly play along with him as I've no bookings and it's a choice on the telly of Dickinsons real deal or Jezza Kyle.
Gives me all his cheesy compliments, again ( yawn) and how I'm going to have a fantastic time ( yawn), will I be driving?, do I drink?- what drink do I like, he knows how to treat a lady, how to show a girl a good time, etc
He then says because he's away from home on holiday and that his bank will be closed on Saturday to do an over the counter cash withdrawal from his savings account to pay me- would he be okay to pay me on Monday once the bank opens and he can withdraw the cash straight from his savings account and hand it to me.
I had to bite my tongue to stop myself laughing and politely told him that a booking was cash upfront, not after.
His tone totally changed, how dare I insinuate he's not going to pay me, he's a straight up, genuine guy.. You know he doesn't do this often, his friend does and his friend has told him he always pays the girls after ( the friend must be his delusional doppleganger alter ego).
Told him I couldn't understand why he was calling a WG in Bradford to travel to Chesterfield when there are plenty of WG's in South Yorkshire. He was clearly miffed and said well I'll look for a nicer one.
Said it had been a pleasure ;D chatting to him and wished him luck in his search for a South Yorkshire girl.
Vaccuming the house this morning and suddenly remembered this thread. Same guy, same drivel.
His number 079238099**
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He told me he'd be in Lincolnshire, then it was Chesterfield.
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I've just had him on to me.
He's now in Sheffield, looking to do two nights and is apparently an architect.
Calling himself Geoff Rutherford and is using 07923 8099**.
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Hi
I have him on to me using the name Harri asking for an out call to the Ibis Jct 30 M1 on Thursday night.
Just thought I would pop on here to check it out - glad I did - thanks girls
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I have just old him my security will drop me off and collect me - bet I don't hear from him again xx The number is still the same x
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Hi
He has contacted me again.
Usual bullsh** of how genuine he is and would like an overnight.
I said I would not meet someone who I had not seen before for an overnight. So he would have to book an hour first. He said I am really genuine and he gets on with everyone blah blah blah.
He is on the same number
Emma x x x
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hi can anyone pm me the latest known number for this twat? xx
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hi can anyone pm me the latest known number for this twat? xx
Elp, if you want to request a number from a Warnings post could you please send it by PM? We ask that people don't clutter up the threads with these and it also means that the person who should be able to help will get a notification rather than you having to rely on them seeing your post (I would think the poster above will have the number still) :).
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Fri 4 July 2014 - Same details from another Posting I read back in March; 07923809**
M1, J30, Sheffield Ibis for several days at ?1k first night ( said I couldn't stay longer, but could maybe pop back again ).
Red flag raised ( even higher ) when he told me he had booked for Sunday and his room would be number 111 ::)
Said "the Lady" hadn't given him a booking reference though. I asked for full name and told him I would need full amount upfront via online Banking.
Said he was on holiday in Lincolnshire so couldn't do this, but his full name was W****** Ward.. Still assumed I would be there and got nasty when I simply replied 'No'.
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I keep getting calls over the last few days from an old number listed in my phone as: SAAFE CONMAN 079386686**
When I did a search on here it's Ward again, switching back to his other number this time.. ::)
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i came across mr ward whilst i was touring skegness earlier this year but luckily i went on my instincts he tried telling me he couldnt draw money out till morning after the booking so i said to him id do a bank transfer of which he said i didnt have facility to do this so i told him to trott on
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Hi Ladies
I am new to this site. I have been contacted by Mr H**** Ward by telephone on Sunday the 14/2/15. He wanted to book me for 3 nights from Tuesday to Friday morning at the IBIS hotel 3 tally's end, barlborough, Chesterfield North S43 4TX Tel 012469132**. He is staying in Room 12* until Monday the 23rd of February 2014. He has two mobile numbers 079386686** and 079238099** which is on O2.
He told me to come on the train from Preston and he would meet me at the station. I told him I have a driver he did not like that. He told me he was a lawyer/barrister/QC. I do have a picture of him on my phone and will upload to this site if I am allowed or text it to you if you require as I am unfamiliar with how to use this site as yet but will certainly be using it in the future for any client.
Very chatty and charming and has got the gift of the gab with a strong Yorkshire accent and sounds like he is from Doncaster as I have an ex who lived there and I wondered whether or not it was him winding me up at first.
He said that everything is going to be wonderful and he is going to spoil me rotten and show me the Derbyshire countryside. He said he would pay me ?3k the it went to ?3.5K then ?4 to ?4.5k.
Wow!! What a shock a bolt out of the blue !! Then on Tuesday morning sent a text to say that he had been up all night with the trots and could he have a couple of days to get over it and buy some immodium.
Naturally trotting around all night from one Hotel to another and full of shit but hey I decided to go along with this guy as I was intrigued and love a professional bullshitter. Sadly he lacked professionalism and the more contact that we had the flaws in his text messages and spelling mistakes were quite transparent and only re-iterated that he was a joker.
Still I pursued it out of curiosity and it has been bugging me and then to know that I was right all along with my instincts after reading these posts was so comforting.
He then wanted to arrange for Thursday the 19th until Monday the 23rd or Friday till Monday and Guess what? Wants to pay me ?10K just because I am amazing and absolutely to die for. Well Who is getting carried away with the fairies now?? LOL He wanted some pics of me and I obliged by text. I asked him if he was on internet he said no and he found me on Adultzone I told him to visit AW profile as all the pics are on there and he said he cant get past the free gallery so just send them for him and be a sweetie.
I told him I wanted a deposit upfront all of the excuses that he had to order the money and without TRUST what else is there left in life if you cannot TRUST someone. He said his wife died 25 years ago and his son and his daughter are now grown up and flown the nest and he has been out everyday to visit his daughter which struck me as odd. I asked him for ID his address at home so that he can be identified he said he has two places. Then he offered me the keys to his car a new car which is ?20K as a deposit. He gets off on wanting to know all of your likes and dislikes and fantasies and tries to befriend you saying he can help you out financially. He said since an eastern European lady ripped his friend off for ?800 and did a runner he has never paid an eascort in advance since and told me I could have the phone number of two girls to verify that he is a man of his word.
Sends texts calling you darling and just to let you know the hotel is 2 minutes from Junction 30 off M1. Believe me this is just the start of many happy times to share. Then he asks to be shaven and using absolutely amazing darling incessantly. He is hopeless by text and keeps the pressure up by phoning you all of the time and then when he cannot get through rings you of his other number.
I rang the hotel room at 8 am and during the day his phones were off as I suspect he is just hotel hopping. He looks like a Truck driver or a fork lift truck driver with brown lense tinted glasses quite a rounded fat face and very large froggy eyes on his pic. there is something very weird about him.
I told him that the only QC he has seen is a bottle of QC and as far as the courts go the only thing he has seen is the dock. He said I was doubting his integrity and I could check him out at Albion Chambers QC in Bristol and Derby Crown Court. So I did and came up with this site lol x ;D He said he could give me 2 tel numbers of porn stars tesa thrills from Essex and tia lane from Liverpool who both spent 10 days with him. He does insist on wanting to chat to you instead of texting as he is good with his chat and the pure bull does roll off his tongue he is well versed and does not trip up until you have upset him. He then becomes very abusive and aggressive and nasty with his texts as he thinks that he can reel you back in.
There is always a new stroke that someone pulls and you think that you have been around the block to know them but this one really did encapture me. Fortunately I am realistic and was half tempted to turn up just for the crack until he offered just ?50 as a token gesture and then quickly upped it to ?2k. He said not to bring a male driver only a female one and not to tell anyone. He preys on ladies that are new and that he thinks are struggling financially and he is their Guardian Angel. I must admit I was very professional until he called me and then it just had to reel off my tongue to tell him just exactly where to go and that he does prey on ladies and it is reassuring to know that you were right. IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS !! ALARM BELLS WERE RINGING FROM THE OFFSET. He then tries to tell you he has booked another escort from leeds escorts who is only 22 but she is probably 29 as all Prostitutes lie about their age and add on 7 years. Au contraire darling why would I want to do that at 51? I am what it says on the label and on my profile what have I got to gain by bullshitting clients? He said one could not even be bothered to answer ones phone could one? I call myself genuine what utter rubbish. He asked me If I had any denials? He really is DELUDED he thinks he is in a court of Law and unfortunately convinced himself that he is some sort of Philadelphian Lawyer!!!
Stay SAAFE Ladies and any further information needed just let me know. Love C xxx
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hi is going under the name John and Harry and his number is 079535951**
he has been wanting to see me in Skegness for 2 months now and wanted me to go to Cheshire, Skegness, Lincolnshire.
offering more then the odds and saying wants to transfer at the end of stay from his isa/bonds and shares saying he is a barrister and solicitor.
says all sorts of stories does not have the intelligence to remember his lies and when he gets caught out he sends nasty messages.
SCAMMER NEED TO BE STOPPED AND POSSIBLE REPORTED TO VICE TEAM.
also mentions bareback and anal and he wants your all while with him, wants you to drive everywhere and only books hotels now, he targets new in the industry to play his games
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Kayla, could you please edit the mobile number so that just the last two digits are censored and it's in the correct format for the site? I've removed the space :).
It's worth pointing out that this man has been at it for at least ten years to my knowledge, and he's never specifically picked on or targeted younger women before. If he's doing so now, then this is new.
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I had a guy claiming to be a QC barrister in Yorkshire. Knew it wasn't right when we spoke on the phone and he had the broad northern accent. I also Google the barrister he claimed to be and it wasn't him as he sent me a selfie.
Anyway he wanted me to stay Friday until Monday at a hotel near Sheffield. Quite a distance from me and we had never met before! Said he would pay ?7,000!! But..wait for it...he would have to drawer the money on the Monday as its being transferred from a savings account.
Total scam. If something is too good to be true it generally is. I didn't meet him obviously.
We are sometimes too trusting especially in the beginning. Just think of it as a lesson learnt and don't beat yourself up about it. He is a total loser...Hope he got a flat tyre on his way home ;)
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His mobile number that he is using today is 075935951**
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Hi Girls. I have been directed here from another forum where I posted this, having been contacted by Mr Ward.
Copied and pasted.
He contacted me and we discussed rates over the phone before planning to meet on Thursday, two hours, standard rate. He text me, incoherently, that evening and asked if he could book me for another 2 hours. Fine, but that is the limit, as I am unavailable in the evening.
He seemed a little irritated with me afterwards and has convinced himself I am seeing another client after him. He then text saying if I cancelled with the other client he would pay me ?1000 for the afternoon and the evening. This is where I started to get suspicious. I reiterated that I was unavailable and thought that he would either book me or cancel.
This morning he text me multiple times, eventually ringing to "discuss our options". He informed me that he was a Barrister named Geoff Ward from Derbyshire and then offered to pay me "anywhere between ?3k and ?5k" because I am "obviously worth it".
I told him I would get back to him and decided to check out his "credentials" and (shock, horror) it turns out he isn't a barrister. In fact he had done this so many times to so many different women it is a wonder he hasn't at least changed the routine.
I might have been out of the industry for a while, but I am certainly not naive!
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Had a call tonight off the infamous 'Geoff' requesting an overnight a week on Sunday at the Ibis at junction 30 of the M1, he even offered me to spend the whole weekend with him and we could drink lots together (lucky me ha ha!) When I realised it was him I humoured him asking if he knows my rates he says "Oh yes about ?1000 is the going rate for one night isn't it?!! He's texting me to confirm that morning. He's still using the same number 075935951**
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Just to add this is at least the third time he has contacted me to try and arrange an overnight booking, on different numbers and names over several years. Each time the key words which identify that its him are that he's honest, reliable and approachable. In the past he has mentioned being a barrister, bareback and paying after the booking because he's so trustworthy and he gets all 'offended' when I've said he needs to pay upfront.
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He has rung me today number 075935953**
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He just called me and actually booked me for next Sunday!!!!!
He was pushing for an overnight booking very much even though I said I don't do overnights with people I've never met before.
Then he said he'd offer ?2000 if I stayed over, I refused and he said okay then just three hours and we'll see how we go.
Introduced himself as Harry Ward and booked a hotel in Chesterfield.
Can I just say one more time, how fricking grateful I am for this forum!?? :-*
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He rung me today too... Unbelievable.
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He rung me today too... Unbelievable.
Thank god I saw this. The fucker just booked me for next week!
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I have ;D. My friend (also based in Scarborough) has just rung me and asked about a booking request she had which sounded odd - exacly the same name and MO (Mr Ward, few days in a hotel - this one in Lincoln). I remembered this thread and doublechecked and it is definitely him; she was suspicious and asked about having some money upfront as he gave her exactly the same cobblers about transferring money out of his ISA and it taking a few days - when she questioned him about it and pointed out that she would have to be upfront when she arrived, he got uppity and sent some arsy texts, so we think he might well be in the process of trying it on somebody else.
The number he is currently using is 07719 3019** - PM me for the rest. I also know where he has a hotel booking this weekend if anybody's interested (my friend rang them and checked and it is a genuine booking, for now at least).
This site is a bloody Godsend sometimes :).
Well at some point while discussing my travel today I told him I would like a small deposit into my bank account tonight or tomorrow to cover my travel expenses.
Once he rang saying he found depositing money into my bank account unethical (????) I immediately came here on Saafe and found him, then texted him and told him to fuck off. I did not tell him however HOW I found out he's a con artist.
Right now he's very busy calling me all names. Plus threatening me that he will warn all websites I advertise on that I asked him for the money upfront.
What a dirty piece of shit.
Ps he sent me his picture if any lady is interested...
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I received a call wanting an overnight booking in the Chesterfield area from a lovely Gentleman saying he is called Geoff / Jeff - Alarms bell began to ring this is a typical Mr Ward call - the hotel he was suggesting we meet at was Sandpiper Hotel, Sheffield Road, Chesterfield, S41 9EH.
Been immediately on guard I asked for a deposit and was told it was not ethical or justified. He said he does not feel comfortable depositing funds into someones bank account he has does not know. He is going by the name Geoff Ritchie or Jeff Ritchie (I asked for his last name) his number os 078566101**.
Be careful ladies this guy is very clever at what he does. I clearly am not going to meet him but feel like setting him up he has ripped off so many girls over the years. Off to calm down and deal with it now...
PM me for the number
K x
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He is now using the name Ivan Macoll and the number he has been calling and texting me on is 07856 6115**
He tried to book me for 3 nights and offered me ?6000. I was supposed to go this Saturday but my phone stopped working and I didn't go as I was working any way.
When he mentioned Derbyshire and Chesterfield I knew there was something on saafe involving those areas. When I told him I want his name and address he became very irate, but he did send them. The address is the same address as in the previous posts; clays cross.
Believe it or not if It wasn't for the phone breaking down I really would have went! Thank God for saafe 🤗
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Mr Ward has rung me again wanting an overnight booking offering to pay ?1000. Even though he's using a different number (same one as the previous poster) He said his name is Ivan, when I said I don't do overnight bookings he acted all surprised, was over familiar and making out I was being unreasonable by refusing, so I said I would think about it and once again I humoured him by asking what he had planned for us to do all night it was the same, 'chatting, drinking, having good fun, laugh etc etc'. He kept saying how he is reliable, kind, trustworthy etc and how he's read all my profile and can tell that we will get on because I'm a lovely woman blah blah blah (I'm sure his tune would have changed the minute I said I want a large deposit/payment in advance) haha! I also asked what he does for a living and he asked me why I wanted to know, I said I just wondered, apparently he's an architect now. He said he was staying at a hotel at junction 30.
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Yes he told me his name was Ivan Macoll as well. It's Unbelievable this man is still doing this shit.
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Yes he told me his name was Ivan Macoll as well. It's Unbelievable this man is still doing this shit.
Had another missed call off him tonight at 6.30 he's using the same number: 078566115**
I wonder if he reads this thread, its as if he's playing a game of cat and mouse!
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This tramp just tried to book me for a weekend.
Knew who it was straight away from this thread - same MO.
Number using - 078566115**
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Hello everyone, this is a hello and a first post in one, sorry it's in this way but to be honest we don't look for support sites until something goes wrong, but now I have found it I will be back for a proper look later.
I was royally scammed last night, I stayed with a client in Skegness he sounded to good to be true and was, I should have listened to the little voices inside me :'(
He rings and texts you offering far to much money and so I was on alert but thought it was ok after we met up and he gave me the money for an overnight.
I spent the evening looked in my bag the envelope was still there this morning but when I went down to breakfast he had run out jumped in his car and gone.
So I checked my bag the envelope was there but he had switched it at some point and it was an empty one.
The guy said he was a lawyer came acroos as very nice ordunary bloke, calls himself Mr Ward, he didn't become agressive but it has upset me very much, if he calls any of you beware & I would be very grateful of a tip off of his whereabouts if anyone knows anything he uses the no. 0*7841016"9
I don't know what else to do I am very very upset, if I go to the police they will do nothing and it will cause me real problems not him bastard ???
Was he arabic or asian looking? The same thing happened to me with a guy who switched my envelope to one filled with cut up newspaper. I was so disappointed when I got home an opened it. Just wondering if it's the same guy...
I don't know much about the law but perhaps if enough people testified against him he'd be able to get done for fraud.
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Was he arabic or asian looking?
No, he isn't. There's a few similar threads here with the same as you've described, but this isn't the same person.
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Another missed call of Ivan/Mr Ward at 11.30pm last night 078566115** ::)
[mobile number censored]
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Recognise his voice now and the "looking at your profile" pre-amble bollocks( reminds me of David Dickinson's accent ;D )
Called himself Ivan D**t and wants overnight in Chesterfield, Derbyshire.
This is a new number to my phone's previous listings.
Acts as though no one has ever asked him for a deposit before.. ::)
075216304**
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When I joined this site last year this thread was one of the first I came across and hoped this cunt would never contact me...
Thanks to VC, Ive just come to realise that this guy has contacted me too. The first time we spoke was last year Nov but he called again about an hour ago and we more or less had the same conversation:
- wants to book me for the entire weekend
- is staying in a hotel in Chesterfield
I dont do overnights nor to I travel to Chesterfield so I wasnt even entertaining the idea but he said he would come to see me next week for a 1 hour incall, ha!
He didnt tell me his name but on Truecaller his name shows as 'Overnight Scammer Ivan'. Hes only contacted me on one number: 078566115**
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New name and number. Is now going by the name "Harry". He called the other day and as soon as he started mentioning Chesterfield/wanting an overnight the alarm bells in my head started ringing.
075216304**
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Fairly sure this is him again usual MO
075216304**
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can someone send me his number please ive been taken in by this arsehole before horrible vile piece of *****
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I'm fairly sure he just phoned me from 075213920**
Sounded tipsy
Mentioned Derbyshire
Wondered if I'd be interested in an overnight or couple of days outcall booking
Denied he's Mr Ward
Claimed his name is Ivan
That's all I needed to know.
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Tried to book my friend for a 3-day weekend in Chesterfield, using the number 075213920**
Again claimed his name was Ivan.
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Just tried to book me claimed he's called Harry
He used 075213920**
077521429**
He said he found me on adultzone. He gave me the second number as he couldn't access my site through the first one with it not being a smart phone..
He wanted a weekend booking next week in Chesterfield. I told him I wasn't an escort anymore.i only offer erotic massage
He then started sending me abusive texts because I wouldn't talk dirty to him. It was then that I searched here
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He's been in touch in the last month, I knew it was him and told him so.
Same MO as usual.
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I think he called me again, I had this man years ago and you just don't forget a voice.....
new number 07521630***
saying name is William and Ibis hotel Junction 30 off the M1 and he said Derbyshire and wanting 2 overnight stays and that voice in my little head (doesn't always want to listen) then said "ITS HIM" new number and new name...I knew it!!! so glad for this site xxx
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This moron has just tried to call me and then a sent a text. I’m in Sheffield. Is still using number 075216304** and refers to himself as Harry. He requested an outcall to a hotel.
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He has just contacted me asking me to outcall to him in Blackpool...from Carlisle!
He used the number 075216304**
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Wow - I started reading this thread purely by accident and quickly realised that this is the same scumbag who has been texting me since 2017. He has asked me to meet him at the Ibis, Barlborough, Chesterfield Jct 30 - M1 and also to spend the weekend with him in Blackpool. His last texts were using the name Ivan and numbers 07521630*** & 07856611*** He always says he is a Barrister with chambers in London but lives in Lichfield offering £3k for a weekend booking. Can't believe this nutter is still up to his old tricks. :-[
[spaces removed from numbers - please add third to last digit]
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Oh my word I just found out I heard from this guy, it was years ago in Glasgow.
Called himself Harry and I labelled him a TimeWaster, probably because he mentioned Chesterfield which is in Derbyshire.
At that time was still on 079238099**
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This guy is back, targeting me in birmingham. Seems very very convincing, if it wasn't for these warnings I'd have gone!
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I've just been contacted by this bloke, his number 075216304** going by the name of Ivan.
Asked for an outcall to his "stunning estate" in Oxford for 2 days. I said not only am I in London, I do not do outcalls.
He tried to claim he was genuine and respectful and then got quite abusive when I kept refusing.
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I have heard from this guy in the last couple of days, wanting to see me Sunday evening at his luxury apartment in Barlow near Dronfield. Of course I won't be going but stringing him along a bit before I tell him to fuck off
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Just been called by an older gentleman in a bungalow in Derbyshire....
For an overnight, thick Yorkshire accent.
07521630xxx
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Just been called by an older gentleman in a bungalow in Derbyshire....
For an overnight, thick Yorkshire accent.
07521630xxx
From memory he doesn't have a Yorkshire accent.
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I think he's contacted everyone on adultwork.
He wanted an overnight in Chesterfield and said he was a barrister. Lots of full stops in his very unbarristerlike English gave him away!
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From memory he doesn't have a Yorkshire accent.
A few comments on here saying he is from Doncaster originally. For sure ‘ad a propa yorksha accent’ and the number matches x
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I thought he had a broad East Midlands accent when I spoke to him, but then I've never lived in South Yorkshire so I'm not really well placed to comment.
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A few comments on here saying he is from Doncaster originally. For sure ‘ad a propa yorksha accent’ and the number matches x
My mistake I didn't look at the number, sorry he does stick in my mind I can even remember where I recieved his most recent calls a couple of years ago. Specifically what I was doing at the time. Has been phoning me for over 10 years but not for last 18-24 months.
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A few comments on here saying he is from Doncaster originally. For sure ‘ad a propa yorksha accent’ and the number matches x
I always think I'm talking to Real Deal's David Dickinson, but then he's from another county altogether.
Same resonance though :)
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He is still using the number posted in Dec 2020, but is now using the name Steve.
You can recognise his style by text because he.puts.dots.between.words instead of spaces in some parts (obviously using an old non-smartphone) and he repeatedly mentions his "luxury apartment in rural Derbyshire". If you'd never been to Clay Cross you might fall for this as on the map it does look quite nice but it's actually rougher than a badger's arse.
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Are you absolutely sure it's the same bloke VC? I only ask because I have it on pretty good authority that the subject of the thread has been dead since 2020?
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Are you absolutely sure it's the same bloke VC? I only ask because I have it on pretty good authority that the subject of the thread has been dead since 2020?
It's the same number Mirror reported back in 2018.
Uses.lots.of.full.stops as reported by someone else around 2019
Wants an overnight to his "luxury apartment" in "rural derbyshire"
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Well that's fine, although my phone does the full stops (fat fingers/small keys). The online obituary somebody sent me a link to way back when (same name/age/location and with photo, although I've thankfully never met the prick) must be for somebody else.
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Well that's fine, although my phone does the full stops (fat fingers/small keys). The online obituary somebody sent me a link to way back when (same name/age/location and with photo, although I've thankfully never met the prick) must be for somebody else.
Unless he bequeathed his punting phone to a fellow timewaster/scammer :D