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General Category => Warnings & Wasters => Topic started by: curves on 22 July 2010, 10:31:51 am
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I recently got a booking from a thirtysomething year old man, with black curly hair,fairly tall and a stocky build. He had a strange, possibly Irish accent. He acts very suspiciously and asks lots of questions. I strongly advise women not to take a booking from him.
his number is 075951590**
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Hi Ladies,
Just to warn you about this man. He followed my booking procedure to a T.. Sent an initial email on AW then phoned me to make the arrangements. It was for a Hotel Outcall. So, naturally went through my security procedure. Name and room number etc.
I rang before I set off and he did indeed seem to be staying at this hotel. He asked me to confirm when I was on the train which I did and he offered to meet me at station but I said there was no need.
I was on the train when he seemed to be getting a bit persistent about meeting me at the station. Maybe this should of concerned me but as the security thing was okayI continued my journey.
When i got off the train he was nowhere to be seen So I rang and got no answer. Then I texted to say okay you must be in the hotel I will come straight there shall iI? I then started getting these weird messages like' walk down this road ' etc etc . I happen to know this are and I know the hotel is not anywhere near where he wanted me to walk to.
I also got ' can I come inside you?. Are you on the pill? How many punters have I let come inside me ?' blah blah blah.
Needless to say I turned round and went home sharpish. It was a total wasted journey and a although it was in East Croydon I guess it is possible he may do this anywhere. Aw profile just says London and county not specified. He obviously has money to burn on unnecessary hotels unless there is another reason of course.
I actually get the impression that he was somewhere else nearby watching out of a window as he kept wanting me to walk to a particular part in the road.
Oh, and on the AW site he does have feedback but has opted not to show it on is profile; now I know why. As he followed the booking procedure I decided to give him a chance.
Since writing this I have noticed he now has a rather revealing pic of his anatomy on his profile. That was not there when I checked before after initial email? Does he just get rid of that pic when making booking and if so why have it there in the first place? Odd.
Number is:075951590** . Pm me for full name number if you need it.
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Tonight I went to do a hotel outcall and had to terminate it after ten minutes because of the client's strange behaviour.
He was about 6 foot, possibly Mediterranean or middle eastern in ethnicity, slightly accented but fluent English, short dark hair.
Number: 075951590**
He met me at the station (right beside the hotel) and greeted me by grabbing me from behind, which was not ideal, but I laughed it off and we walked to the hotel. We went up a back staircase and he let me in. The room was quite dark and I instantly felt a bit edgy and said I was going to make a security call (I needed to touch base with my buddy anyway because I was late and she was waiting for my call, so I called her and gave her the room number etc, having left his name and so on with my buddy already.) All the while he was looking at me a bit oddly. Once that was over I addressed the lights issue and he said he'd recently had laser treatment on his eyes and couldn't tolerate the light. I switched on the bedside, which wasn't very bright at all, and he said it was too much. We came to an impasse, with me insisting I'd need more light to feel safe and him saying we couldn't. He kept making remarks about 'safety' under his breath (earlier in the day I'd told him I couldn't visit his house as his landline is ex-directory). I told him that everything I'd done was standard practice, and that in such a vulnerable job it was very important to allow escorts whatever safety procedures they see fit. I asked if he'd ever seen an escort before and he said 'no'.
Then he said "Let's go for a drink," and without waiting for my agreement began to leave the room. I called "We need to see about the business side of things first," after him and he ignored me. I followed him, already thinking that it was time to terminate the appointment. As we walked I politely suggested that he might not be aware, but that the etiquette is for payment to happen at the beginning of the appointment. He just looked at me strangely and continued to guide me to wherever it was that he had in mind for the drink. At this point I said very simply that I didn't think we were going to have an enjoyable evening together and that I was unfortunately going to have to go home. He flipped out a bit and was like "you've been treating me like a criminal from the beginning." I was extremely glad to be in a public place at this point and just walked off quickly and got myself home.
Reading over this I feel like my inexperience is probably shining through (should have insisted on the lights immediately and asked for the money before making my phonecall?), but I was nervous and forgot myself a bit. Anyway I got really bad vibes from him and I was glad I was able to terminate things once out of the darkened room., thought I should mention it.
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Just to say that this is the same guy that I posted about in the timewasters section a little while ago. I have checked the number with what is saved in my phone and it matches..
It would appear he is targeting anyone going independent for the first time so newbies please beware and stay aware from this creep.
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(Hii :) First post! Shame I'm a bit late...)
I took this guys booking too, same number, also at a Croydon hotel. Complete boundary pusher - I would go as far to say he's potentially dangerous! Amongst the other bullshit, he tried to force bb, he was quite strong too. At best I found him very rude, disrespectful and deceptive (it was only on my furious hasty exit that i discovered the hidden webcam filming us, wtf ::)). Very bad news.
So, importantly, he has contacted me again. Calls and texts have obviously been ignored but he's also using this alternative number now too:
- 078435129**
Felt I had to let you know! Take care!!!!!
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Just to say that this is the same guy that I posted about in the timewasters section a little while ago. I have checked the number with what is saved in my phone and it matches..
It would appear he is targeting anyone going independent for the first time so newbies please beware and stay aware from this creep.
In view of these additional posts, I've merged Lorissa's original TW thread in at the beginning of this one. London ladies please take note of the MO (which doesn't seem to be changing much) and beware.
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Hi Ladies
Just to let you know he contacted me on AW too, calls himself Rob. I asked why he had hidden feedback he had some rubbish story about AW technical issues. He then called and asked if I would arrive wearing nothing under my coat, alarm bells rang, so I absolutely refused to see him. He sent quite a few pushy emails as well. Please be safe.
Jem x
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I would just like to add some further points about his MO which may be helpful, and which I omitted last night. When I refused to see him as he had hidden feedback, he emailed me with a screen dump of his feedback (he said he can see his feedback but the system has a fault which AW cannot rectify. The screen dump looks legit, but reading the feedback from girls, they were raving about how sexy he was, in particular how amazing his willy was, with 3 of the feedback's saying they wanted his babies he was so nice (as if!).
I still wasn't comfortable so cross checked the names of the ladies who had left him feedback, to see if he had left them feedback to ascertain whether these bookings actually had gone ahead, of 8 or 9 feedbacks, only 1 from quite long ago had he left feedback for. It may just be that he is selfish, but more likely in my mind that he has copy and pasted other people's feedback. I also emailed AW about his story about the error, they did reply but saying they could not release such info. I had a rotten feeling about him from the beginning, and these things combined with the info on my previous post, made me refuse flat out to ever see him. Hope that is not TMI, but thought it may help someone spot him.
And Lorissa, when he booked me all the willy pictures were up (another warning bell to me), as well as a face pic of an impossibly cute looking guy (another warning bell to me).
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This guy called me yesterday. I took his call and he seemed nice enough on the phone, but after reading his feedback I refused to see him, he has something like 8 disputes and his name on AW is Robert1979. He wants girls to do an outcall to East Croydon, and he'll suggest to meet at the station. After I refused to see him he became very aggitated, and has called and texted me all day.
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I've merged this thread with Lorissa's (and I think there was another one too, originally) because the details and phone numbers seem to match up even though the first warning post was well over a year ago.
This man is obviously prolific and in it for the long haul - please everybody covering the area read the whole thread carefully.
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I rarely post so was surprised to see a topic started by me up here, over a year after I wrote it.
Sorry to hear about your encounters Lorissa, Jem and Lucinda.
This warning page is really useful but i need to get in the habit of actually saving the numbers, or it doesn't work at all.
It freaks me a little that some people target new girls.
Stay safe, be confident and keep your boundaries girls/women.
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oops, just realised you can't save the full number.
Well i'm just going to read this section of the boards more regularly.
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Just had a message from him asking for a 4 hour outcall tonight. I'm so glad I decided to search his aw name on here because of his hidden feedback. I'm also so glad I didn't give him my number, (I now only give it when a first appointment is confirmed and I have recieved and checked all the details etc, because I find I really can't handle all these type of guys on the phone, i'm soooo bad at standing up for myself!) I guess I will politely tell him it's a no :)
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I'm new to escorting and received a message from him (Robert1979) a week ago on Adultwork saying that he was "very keen" to see me and asking for my phone number so he could call me to arrange. I sensed that something wasn't right as he had chosen to hide his feedback so I replied asking why he had done to this to which I received no reply! After reading this thread, I'm extremely glad that was the only contact that I've had with him. Fleur x
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Have just found the email from his personal email (not AW) so if anybody would like his email please send me a PM and I will send it on to you.
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hey I m melisa and i did get a call from a man asking for outcall to a hotel in east croydon tomorrow. i was suspicious, could you please give me his complete number?
thanks
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Hi-this man really creeps me out,he contacted me again yesterday,I saw him in December and he insisted on using his own comdom,which then broke-I'm pretty sure he'd poked a hole in it first,since he didn't want the main light on in the room and he was fiddling about with it after he put it on,then when I went to pick it up off the floor afterwards he was trying to stop me and acting really weird about it,then sure enough,I discover a massive hole in it (I didn't catch anything but it's possible to have something and not pass it on every time)
Anyway,he used a different phone number to the one he contacted me on before,we arranged to meet,then he started texting me the stuff he wanted-cos it was croydon I started to wonder if it was the same bloke I saw before,then the address rang a bell so I looked it up on google earth and sure enough it was the same block of flats-when I texted him to say I knew it was him and I wasn't coming he acted all innocent,saying I must have got confused and we'd never met before,he wanted me to put a blindfold on when I got in the flat,before he showed himself so I don't know if he just thought I see so many guys I wouldn't remember his place-but I got the vibe it was something more sinister.
I think he is dangerous-he got very angry when I confronted him about the comdom I felt quite intimidated and when I said I was leaving he followed me around the flat while I was getting my stuff together and kept blocking my way,he has rape fantasies as well
he has a very unusual accent-he says he's part kiwi and part canadian,he looks like he has maori in him,he's tall with curly black hair
the latest number he phoned me on is 079120451** the road he lives on starts with a w.
on the phone he asks stuff like are you on the pill and do you have any taboo fantasies-he wants to tie you up,he has rape fantasies and he wanted me to wear a schoolgirl outfit this time-he is also a pest,after I started ignoring his texts he called me about 10 times.Beware!
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oh I just read the thread again and realized I had a message on AW from robert1979 too,so he's still using that name-I never even replied to that e-mail cos I was too busy,yet he still text my phone-the creepy thing is,I've put up a new profile since I met him and he still found me
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Hi-this man really creeps me out,he contacted me again yesterday,I saw him in December and he insisted on using his own comdom,which then broke-I'm pretty sure he'd poked a hole in it first,since he didn't want the main light on in the room and he was fiddling about with it after he put it on,then when I went to pick it up off the floor afterwards he was trying to stop me and acting really weird about it,then sure enough,I discover a massive hole in it (I didn't catch anything but it's possible to have something and not pass it on every time)
Anyway,he used a different phone number to the one he contacted me on before,we arranged to meet,then he started texting me the stuff he wanted-cos it was croydon I started to wonder if it was the same bloke I saw before,then the address rang a bell so I looked it up on google earth and sure enough it was the same block of flats-when I texted him to say I knew it was him and I wasn't coming he acted all innocent,saying I must have got confused and we'd never met before,he wanted me to put a blindfold on when I got in the flat,before he showed himself so I don't know if he just thought I see so many guys I wouldn't remember his place-but I got the vibe it was something more sinister.
I think he is dangerous-he got very angry when I confronted him about the comdom I felt quite intimidated and when I said I was leaving he followed me around the flat while I was getting my stuff together and kept blocking my way,he has rape fantasies as well
he has a very unusual accent-he says he's part kiwi and part canadian,he looks like he has maori in him,he's tall with curly black hair
the latest number he phoned me on is 079120451** the road he lives on starts with a w.
on the phone he asks stuff like are you on the pill and do you have any taboo fantasies-he wants to tie you up,he has rape fantasies and he wanted me to wear a schoolgirl outfit this time-he is also a pest,after I started ignoring his texts he called me about 10 times.Beware!
Meee, I am fairy sure that what he did with the condom constitutes sexual assault. So sorry you had to encounter this creep. Thinking back, I ran off before any money even changed hands but he did have his own condoms already set out on the side and didn't want the lights on. Almost certainly the same bloke, going by the physical description.
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It would be a good idea to always carry some special non latex comdoms since the excuse he made that he had to use his was that he was allergic to latex-he isn't by the way cos I saw the packet afterwards and it was a regular trojan comdom
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OMG, I'm so glad I decided to have a look at this today,
I have made a new profile, and robert1979 sent me an email, he rang me today, and i was wondering while his accent sounded familiar,
After the phonecall which consisted of (him wanting to make to europe, long term arrangements, me not seeing other clients :S, all this stuff) then he texts me, still texting now asking If im on the pill and such,
Wanting to arrange a meet for tomorrow,
Now looking on this thread,
On my old account, I'VE MET THIS LUNATIC before, he slapped me on my arse when greeting (which was mentioned up there) he states he's canadian, hes vile, tried to not pay me, and when he did, when i checked, there was a few hundred missing, he trys to use his own condom, which i was having non of, after the encounter he harrassed me for a further 2 months.
He is using the number off 079120451**
Beware girls he's dangerous.
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This twat contacted me today on a different number and arranged an outcall to a park in East croydon (would never usually do that but am desparate as my bitch mother kicked me out and I'm down to my last ?2) and when I got to the entrance of the park he kept trying to get me to go in and meet him there,even though I said I didn't feel comfortable,eventually I said ok but money first and nothing without a comdon to which he replied yes without and started talking about rape roleplay,I then left and on my way to the station realized said park was 2 minutes away from this twats address,so it has to be him-new number is 075951590**
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Am very new to escorting and have also recieved an email from this man.Thank god I checked this section.
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When I first started on AW 6 months ago Robert1979 also contacted me. We spoke on the phone and he said he wanted me as regular booking - he wanted to be my only client and see me 2-3 times per week! The number he used with me was 075160404** (PM me for complete number).
I noticed the withheld feedback on AW and asked him about this and he spun me the same line about an AW technical issue and emailed me a screendump of his supposed feedback - which was all about girls saying how amazing he was and that they wanted his babies. I immediately thought it sounded bogus, even though I was new - "I'm not as green as I am cabbage looking" !!
He said he wanated me to travel to Croydon to see him, but luckily as its too far out of my area for me to want to travel to I didn't agree to a booking. Thanks goodness! It sounds like I had lucky escape!
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this twat contacted me the other day on 075951590** I thought it was probably him from the style of the text but I searched the number on here to double check-sure enough this thread came up but so did one from 3 years ago!Isn't it about time something is done about him before he really hurts someone?considering he has rape fantasies and stuff...I know that dosen't nessaserily mean he's going to rape someone but considering he has no respect for boundries anyway and seems to have mental health problems...
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oh,I forgot to mention last time,that park he wanted me to go into was absolutely pitch black and far away enough from any houses that probably no-one would have heard me screaming and this was after 11 at night
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I think I saw this guy last summer, in his flat in East Croydon. Insisted on meeting at the station, and me wearing no panties. Booked for 3 hours. Description matches perfectly with what i remember. Not very tall, but very strong built. Shortish dark hair, a bit curly. Not bad looking. I would say slightly Italian, but to be honest he could be anything. It is not obvious at all where he might be from. He told me his name was Ralph, and was from the Nederlands, but lived in Canada for a long time. He didn't sound like a native English speaker, however could have been South African, as i often get confused with those. Sadly I don't have his phone number anymore. He claimed to be a trader, working in the city.
He is aggressive in bed, very very strong, held me so tight that i couldn't have moved even if i wanted to- basically he can do anything to you, because he is enormously strong.
Same story- ribbed condom ( he insisted on using his own). I then had 2 std checks, and a hiv test 3 and 6 months later, and all was negative, but you never know with this piece of scam.
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I think I saw this guy last summer, in his flat in East Croydon. Insisted on meeting at the station, and me wearing no panties. Booked for 3 hours. Description matches perfectly with what i remember. Not very tall, but very strong built. Shortish dark hair, a bit curly. Not bad looking. I would say slightly Italian, but to be honest he could be anything. It is not obvious at all where he might be from. He told me his name was Ralph, and was from the Nederlands, but lived in Canada for a long time. He didn't sound like a native English speaker, however could have been South African, as i often get confused with those. Sadly I don't have his phone number anymore. He claimed to be a trader, working in the city.
He is aggressive in bed, very very strong, held me so tight that i couldn't have moved even if i wanted to- basically he can do anything to you, because he is enormously strong.
Same story- ribbed condom ( he insisted on using his own). I then had 2 std checks, and a hiv test 3 and 6 months later, and all was negative, but you never know with this piece of scam.
Definitely the same guy I saw (and ran from). He also insisted on meeting me at the station (or rather, turned up) and didn't want me wearing panties. Same description. I'm so glad I listened to my gut and just bolted. =/
Is there anything we can do with our collective experience of this guy? I mean, the next time he contacts someone, could we pass his details to the police and see if they'd like to turn up in our place? (Wishful thinking, perhaps, but it might be one way of sorting him out.)
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I had a text from a "Robert" today - number 079766245**
He said he was keen to see me again (I've never seen anyone called Robert before , so I had my suspicions it might be Robert1979). Anyway, asked if it was Robert1979 - no reply - I asked him for his AW name and he said BigD*ck** (PM me for full name).
I told him to contact me through AW for a booking but he said he had to close down his AW account as he almost got caught using the site on his work laptop. I told him I only do AW bookings and got no reply since then.
It could be a totally innocent punter, but for some reason it got my spidey sense going... I am a bit suspicious because my number is only available on request and I don't recall ever being in contact with a big dick (been in contact with plenty of big dick heads tho!)
Thought it might be worth a mention anyway....
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I just read an earlier post, that I had overlooked before. Now when I think about it, it seems so obvious! He must be half Maori ( or other islander from the area). It's not your first thought when you meet a darker looking guy in London, as those are most likely to be Italian/ Middle Eastern.
That would explain his unusual features (very very strong, exotic looking yet European at the same time, and his accent).
There is a New Zealand rugby player, called Sonny Bill Williams, you can find his photos on the Internet. Our generous Croydon sperm donor has very similar looks ( so new girls might get an idea of what to run away from, when they are invited to Croydon)
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And although the rugby player is very hot, I still do not recommend a confrontation with his pathethic little version from Croydon.
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Can we keep the speculation for PMs, please? Helpful stuff is always welcome but as ever, this is NOT a discussion board.
Anybody who wants to and hasn't already (I believe a couple of ladies have) should report any experiences with this man to the Praed Street Project if they don't want to go to the police - it all helps keep their Ugly Mugs records up to date and they will pass any relevant info on to other workers.
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So this guy has been hounding me for a week. Felt a little suspicious and now would you look at that, you ladies are wonderful :D He says he is at his 'friend's flat' in East Croydon. Same telephone no. as OP put. I've already told him I don't travel that far. Yuck, what a loser.
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Hi guys, just to let you know- I am in Edinburgh and received an email from Robert1979. Does anyone know if he travels? He asked to call me and I said I don't give out my number without a booking and never heard back. This was in April.
Just to make you aware that he may be going further afield.
x
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I received a message from Robert1979 on my new solo profile - though I'm in Southampton. He wanted to ring to arrange though so when I replied to say I don't arrange bookings by phone and mentioned my couple profile he didn't reply again so probably thought I was totally new to the site and could be easily scammed - he may not have feedback showing but the notes on AW are very detailed.
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Hey I got this message from him:
"Hello you
Nice to see such an interesting profile out here. Think you look gorgeous and I am very keen to see you.
May I give you a ring to arrange?
Robert xx"
is this the same guy?
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yes-I got the exact same message from him a few weeks ago,using the robert1979 name
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Just realised this man has contacted me, was quite a while ago though.
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he's changed his user name to rabbledabble on aw-I noticed the name had changed on an old email he sent me under the robert1979 name.He's been texting me this week as well,still using the same numbers
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There is a thread on this dangerous man somewhere. His new AW name is James_Big. Thick twat is still sending exactly the same mail.
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There is a thread on this dangerous man somewhere. His new AW name is James_Big. Thick twat is still sending exactly the same mail.
The thread is here, and I've merged them. It only takes a second to use the Search box - can we please not start new warnings about topics that already have existing threads? Add to the original and everybody can get the full story :).
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Just to keep everyone updated, he has now changed his username to: Donkeykong22
I get this same e-mail from him about once a month, in spite of the fact that I never reply...
"Hello you
Nice to see such an interesting profile out here. Think you look gorgeous and I am very keen to see you.
May I give you a ring to arrange?
Dxx"