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General Category => Warnings & Wasters => Topic started by: leeds escort on 10 December 2010, 12:19:56 pm
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hello, ive only just joined today for the sole purpose of reporting an assault, i do read this site and find it very helpful just sorry my first post is such a negative one. i was assaulted yesterday 9th december in my appartment in leeds. the guy is a painter and decorator (can tell with clothing and have googled his number which confirms this). he is apprx 5'9" and medium build, white, light brown hair, i know not a great description but his eyes were very striking and i think quite long lashes. he calls himself paul and i do believe this however can only say so much as i am definatly pressing charges (he is in custody now and have every reason to believe he will be remanded, again cant discuss why for obvious reasons). he has visited me on a couple of occasions and phone rang minute he came through door, he said he had to leave for work on one occasion and had to pick his daughter up on the other occasion, both times walking through to my lounge (in hindsite i guess to see if i was alone), he came on one occasion for a service and was a nice guy (or so i thought!) but after service looked round appartment (i know i broke every rule there but have definatly paid for that) and left without any problems. yesterday however was very different, he arrived and when i asked for the money he made a big deal of needing loo first, he came out of bathroom and said hed left his wallet in the van and would be back in 5 mins, he did come back and when i again asked for the money he launched at me without saying a word, the first punch to the back of the head floored me and can only describe what insued for a few seconds after was a sustained attack, no words were spoken by him. luckily i did have security with me in the building and he was dragged off me very quickly. as i have said im sorry for such a bad post but i firmly believe this guy was out to do massive damage and not just scare. if anyone else has had anything similar happen pls contact me as for my safety and that of all other girls i can not possibly live with myself if i didnt take this as far as i can
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I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm glad you survived that violent criminal's hideous assault and I hope he goes to prison and rots there forever. >:( And thank you for posting this warning; it's so strong to try to help others in this way, especially now.
I hope that if you need anything else, you'll feel free to post here - we are all here to help. ((hugs))
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thankyou and yes i agree i hope he goes down for a long time, i will certainly do all in my power for that to happen. like i said i couldnt forgive myself if i didnt report this and someone got the same treatment or worse, as i cant stress enough that he seriously was out to do massive damage. i forgot to mention i would say he is in his late 30s (i think, never been great on ages). i really hope this helps and i do have his number if anyone needs it, havnt posted here as unsure if allowed, thanks girls x
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thankyou and yes i agree i hope he goes down for a long time, i will certainly do all in my power for that to happen. like i said i couldnt forgive myself if i didnt report this and someone got the same treatment or worse, as i cant stress enough that he seriously was out to do massive damage. i forgot to mention i would say he is in his late 30s (i think, never been great on ages). i really hope this helps and i do have his number if anyone needs it, havnt posted here as unsure if allowed, thanks girls x
You can post his number but you must hide two digits (i.e. 01234 **7 890), just to protect the forum because even a criminal can try to take legal action against us if they find we're publicly listing potentially unsafe information about them.
Of course, privately you can give as detailed information as possible (PMs etc). :) Do you think the police will be circulating an image of this guy? Although it sounds like he's such a nasty piece of work that the police already have a lot of stuff against him; again, I frankly hope he never sees freedom again, especially considering how coldly pre-meditated his attack clearly was. >:(
I think you're doing the right thing here - but don't forget that nothing you did could ever have made you deserve this happening, so you must treat yourself kindly at this time and try to take care of yourself as best as possible. Letting a man look in your sitting room doesn't mean you signed yourself up for an attack - only the attacker himself is to blame about such a thing; if he'd just never been born the world would be better off, and there's no two ways about it. You had security in the building and you were cautious throughout so you did absolutely anything that anyone could expect.
Do you have a security buddy or other friend(s) in your area who know the situation? I hope you don't have to be dealing with this alone (although, of course, the whole forum is here for you, too!) especially when dealing with the police etc, I've heard that part can be traumatic enough in itself. :-\
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You can post his number but you must hide two digits (i.e. 01234 **7 890), just to protect the forum because even a criminal can try to take legal action against us if they find we're publicly listing potentially unsafe information about them.
It is specifically the LAST two digits that should be hidden; randomly scattering asterisks about is fine for the Data Protection Act but not a lot of use in the Search box if people are trying to check somebody who has contacted them. It is IDENTIFYING information which cannot be listed, but as EMily says, do feel free to pass the number on via PM :).
LE, I'm assuming you have reported to the police already, but you could also contact Genesis which is your local project - details can be found here (http://www.genesisleeds.org.uk/dodgy_punter_scheme_unid6ef9_page.aspx). They can pass on the information to alert other ladies and will also support you with reporting if you haven't done so yet.
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thankyou for all your support it really is apprechiated. im lucky in that im quite a strong person anyway and tend to just get back on the horse (so to speak) if i fall off, not that anything like this has ever happened to me before thankgod dont think my nerves could take it!. however i think the severity of what has happened is begining to now kick in, and more of the what could have happened which shouldnt be dwelled on i know. im still waiting a call from the police and to be honest dealing with them (not that they havnt treated me kindness) is almost as scary, i think the grey area scares us all in this kind of thing although i have always worked alone, i do worry about names in papers etc as not sure if that would happen, however if there was a threat of that i dont think i could continue with this no matter how much i want girls protected or how much i want him to pay for this. his number is 079867970**. i do hope you all stay safe and i will do my best to sort this so its one less basta** to cause us any harm xx
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Hi there,
Sorry to hear about your attack and i hope you feel better soon.
This guy sounds very similar to a guy i used to see he was called paul and was a painter to.He said he came from preston.It will be at least 6 years since it happened to me but it is very similar to what you have said.Pm me if you want to know more.
Love Cat x
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i dont think he ever said where he from to me, but i dont think he had a preston accent (again im rubbish at accents though). he is in court this morning and there is an application for remand being put in by the police, so i hope to god they get it as i feel safe when i know where he is ;D. im unsure if the police will be able to circulate a picture of him (i havnt asked them this), this is obviously going to court and we know everyone has to have a fair trial, however there is no doubt that it is him as he was still here when the came and arrested him. i just hope the justice system works for me as if he gets out ill never feel safe again.
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just a quick update to say im dissapointed that i cant yet give you an update. apparantly he did go to court this morning and i still dont know if he has been remanded or not! despite me making 3 phone calls to find out, each time i was told they would contact me, and yes each time they havnt. i now have been told there is nobody there that can tell me until monday at the earliest. i cant describe how i feel now apart from scared, let down etc etc etc, i feel i shouldnt have bothered!!!! if this is how we are treated its no wonder girls are reluctant to inform them as i know i for one wish i hadnt
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wish id have waited an hour before posting that last message. just had a huge change of events, my last call has obviously been discussed with someone, and a very sympathetic police officer has rung me to appologise and to say he is personnaly going to the home of the officer who should have updated the system to find out and is ringing me very shortly ;D fingers crossed, im probably posting too many times on this but i guess i can blame nerves
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well girls, not the result i was praying for >:(. he was granted bail and has a tag and a curfew between 9pm and 7am!!!!!!! he is in court again tuesday where basically it will be refered to crown court nothing more oh and the horrible man that calls him his solicitor is going to try to even stop his curfew!!! hope he can sleep with that decision :-[ >:( >:( >:(. im absolutly devastated (maybe the biggest understatement of my life). this is the courts decision and i have to accept that, not the polices, finding it very hard to swallow and have no doubt ill have quite a few down moments. the only concellation is that i was told when he was questioned he was "very honest", the tw** ill give him fu**ing honesty. sorry for using swear words albeit with a little edited out. if i get my day in court ill nail the bast*** if its the last thing i do. wont rant anymore as dont want to put anymore of a downer on this and ill save your eyes from the inevitable headache. thanks again for everyones messages and dont forget us girls are 10000% better than this scum of the earth, shame the public and courts cant see that eh, take care and ill post again if i ever get him for this :o
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Hey I've been in a similar situation but nothing to do with work, I've pm'd you.
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So sorry to hear this. I'm glad you went to the Police and he's been arrested, but not at all surprised he's been bailed. Same thing happened to me in 2007 before I was escorting.
We're all here for you, but realise for legal reasons you can't say too much.
Thank GOD you had security!
Love and hugs Daisy xxx
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I'm so sorry about this result, and so sorry too for the others who have been through something similar. :(
Do let us know if there are any more developments and please remember that we're here for you, you can post here as much as you like and if you need anything, please just let us know.
I live in hope that one day violent crimes against women will be recognized for their truly shocking, terrible nature and not shrugged off as "oh, another one" just because they are so common. Ugh. Mustn't rant. But it's revolting. >:(
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*Hug* I hope he gets the worst prison sentence. My last boyfriend was in jail and he told me that guys that come in assualts on women get hard times in prison. Doesn't matter what the woman does for a living, it is still not right. Keep strong hun xxx
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OMG!!! I hope yr ok babe. I think it's afterwards when it all sinks in isn't it that it gets to you more.
You've definitely dun the right thing by reporting it to the police & on as many forums as you can. I wudn't av thought he would've been sent to prison straight away, but at least the ball's rolling. Let's hope it keeps rolling in the right direction. Thank goodness you had security I shudder to think wot wudve happened to you luvvie.
Keep yr chin up & keep smiling & thank you so much for bringing it to the attention of us girls.
Take care.
Luv & hugs Kate xx
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hi kate, i dont post on other forums but your more than welcome to do it on my behalf. x
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Hi hope you are ok I have pm'd you x
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What a terrible thing to have happened to you, from a very nasty piece of work. I hope he gets all he deserves and then some. Good on you for having the strength left, after what he did to you, to have the police deal with him and thank you for letting us all know. I hope you get all the help and support you need. Sending you lots of hugs. x
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hi kate, i dont post on other forums but your more than welcome to do it on my behalf. x
Oki doki babe. Take care & lots of hugs.
xx
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First post here. I'm in Leeds and I know a lot of girls who work here. I will definitely be passing on details if the bas**rd is out on a tag.
I just wanted to say I've got so much admiration for how strong your being, both in going after him with the police and thinking of other girls. Makes me so angry what the courts decided. He's obviously a danger to other girls and he gets a slap on the wrist!
Hope you are ok babe.
Edie x
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hope your okay, and that he gets totally what he deserves. Unfortunately I have no faith in the police in Manchester whatsoever heres hoping that Leeds police look at us ladies differently. I have an ongoing stalker situation and all the police can say is to leave the industry asap.
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Unfortunately I have no faith in the police in Manchester whatsoever .. I have an ongoing stalker situation and all the police can say is to leave the industry asap.
Have you been in touch with MASH about this?
http://www.mash.org.uk/ (http://www.mash.org.uk/)
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Hi, my name is Joan and I work for Genesis. I have read about what happened to you and wanted to say if there is anything Genesis can do to support you please give me a call on our office number which is on the website www.genesisleeds.org.uk or email me on joandarby@btconnect.com
I put a post on the site about the work I do for Genesis with women who have been assaulted. I know this must be a really hard time for you and hope we might be able to help. As you will see if you look at the website or talk to other women who know about us we are really aware of confidentiality and the need to be discrete. We also have an 'Ugly Mugs' scheme where we tell women about men who have threatened or assaulted people so they can be aware of them. Let me know if you want to know any more about us,
best wishes,
Joan
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hi everyone, thanks for everybodys posts, i will have some important news to post soon regarding this case and will let you all know. samanthatouring, im really sorry you have found manchester police unhelpful and really hope something gets done as violence and stalking should be taken very seriously and nobody deserves that, getting out of the buisness is not a helpful solution, nailing the bastard would be far more helpful. scum that do that are only brave as they are anonymous, take that away from them and they are cowards, im sure there must be ways of tracing people (or companies who specialise in that) and turning the tables, if there isnt then there should be. xxx
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Hey, just wanted to say on the thread (as well as PMs lol) that I'll be cheering you on whenever that court date is babe. Send him down. It's women like you who are helping protect other girls from it happening again, and it's brave.
Edie x
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best news ever ;D ;D hes been sentenced today to 18 months custody.
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That is fantastic news. Well done you. I'm so proud of you.
Luv Kate xx
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one thing i have learnt through all this is that im not surprised in the fact alot of girls dont report crimes like this, but a few pointers you all need to know is that when the police say "special measures" can be put into place to stop the media getting your name should be taken as utter boll**** as this is not the case! ONLY a judge can promise that (and very rarely does) and secondly very important sign your statement with your working name (perfectly legal) as the defendant gets access to this information which is unbelievable. also please dont ever be scared to report crimes against us as they are taken seriously and delt with, and if not shout louder lol xx
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one thing i have learnt through all this is that im not surprised in the fact alot of girls dont report crimes like this, but a few pointers you all need to know is that when the police say "special measures" can be put into place to stop the media getting your name should be taken as utter boll**** as this is not the case! ONLY a judge can promise that (and very rarely does) and secondly very important sign your statement with your working name (perfectly legal) as the defendant gets access to this information which is unbelievable. also please dont ever be scared to report crimes against us as they are taken seriously and delt with, and if not shout louder lol xx
Glad he got a guilty....... i know what you mean about the name thing as i also went to court when some one robbed the flat where i worked from . The first thing i did at the start of the trial was to send the judge a hand written note begging him not to allow the papers to publish my name .....as my children were taking exams and didn't know what i did and why should their lives be ruined etc . At first no one wanted to give the judge my note but i insisted till it was taken .(The judge sent back one saying basically he understands my concern for my family and thanked me for going to court to testify and that it would be fine )
I already knew i had to ask the judge as my friend had already been named and shamed so to speak .
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i have emailed emily to check if i can post a link to this guys name and picture which is on the police website now he has been convicted, if i am allowed i will post here as soon as i hear as you all need to be aware of this guy xx
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Yes, you can link to the police website.
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http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/?Page=350|In+The+Dock&Neighbourhood=ALL&limit=1
his name is paul waldron (incase others are added and they change what page he is on). please take a look girls and avoid at all costs, stay safe and thankyou all again for your support. just glad i got him off the street and would go through it all again in a breath if it ment we all stay a little safer xxx
Tiny edit by Emily: Hopefully this link (http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/?Page=350|In+The+Dock&Neighbourhood=ALL&limit=1) will work - it's the same as the one posted by leeds escort, of course, just in a handily-clickable form. :) Thank you for sharing this with us!
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i cant paste the full page, please go to link then press at top "caught on camera" then click on "in the dock" at the left and you will see his pic. PAUL WALDRON aged 42yrs xxx
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thanks emily your a star lol ;D ;D ;D
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Got his pic babe. Will take it down Moulin Rouge later.
Well done. Seriously.
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Well done that's absolutely fantastic. Does anyone know of any other force that has got this kind of thing!? I was obviously thinking about Sheffield.
Luv Kate xx
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Most forces have this kind of thing Emily-which is great news!
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Well done leeds escort!!! What an amazing, brave woman you are + women everywhere are safer today because of YOU!!!
Please ladies, if ever anything like this happens to you-contact me or Joan at Genesis-(she has a page on here too) for advice, if you are in our areas we can work with you directly but we can also point out people like us in other area who specialise in supporting sex workers who are attacked
we will support you through the whole thing-from report to court & make sure you get what you need.We woudl insist on special measures, work to protect your identity etc
We are here for you only-use us :)
Shelly x
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sorry to bump this old thread back up but just had a call from victim support and this guy is getting released on tag end of june, a grand total of 4 months inside when he got an 18 month sentence. justice eh, be careful xx
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WTF that is awful news :(
Can you PM me his number please?
Cheers
Edie x
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This is just making me so angry. How can someone serve 4 months for that? I know my anger aint gonna help you one little bit leeds escort, but just... how can that be right?
Also, why wont genesis give out ugly mug lists over email?
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i know what you mean, however the good in me wants to believe that his time inside will have turned him round, and hope against hope that he will never do this again, in which case all the stress and worry was worth it. either that or ive officially lost it (that may very well be true), i just havnt got the fight left in me to be angry anymore, take care everyone xx
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This is just making me so angry. How can someone serve 4 months for that? I know my anger aint gonna help you one little bit leeds escort, but just... how can that be right?
Can I respectfully remind everybody once again that the Warnings section is for posting warnings only (http://only) and is not a place to chat, speculate or otherwise shoot the breeze. If anyone is in any doubt about the purpose of this board, please read this again (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=2216.msg40823#msg40823). Messages such as this belong in PMs, not on the board - this type of posting makes it harder for people to find current warnings by pushing them further down the board.
Also, why wont genesis give out ugly mug lists over email?
I would think that it is because this is sensitive personal data covered by UK Data Protection legislation, and control needs to be exercised over who sees it. The best why to find out would probably be to ask Genesis.