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General Category => Warnings & Wasters => Topic started by: AngelHaynes on 29 September 2015, 09:34:58 am
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I hope this is the appropriate place to write this.
A certain punter who might be known to some has had some sort of an aggressive meltdown.
It has happened over the last few days, and although this line of work does attract some weird ones I felt it important to share as I think he could be potentially dangerous.
This individual is very manipulative and has a reputation of being obsessive, inappropriate and somewhat unstable.
Girls are reluctant to see him and he therefore makes multiple AW and Twitter accounts in order to create a disguise and meet them.
Girls only realise who he is when they have compared notes.
Although so far he has been fine during a booking his online behaviour has become more and more malicious as of late.
He recently went on a rampage of threatening both WGs and their clients.
Threats of 'destroying' lives and relationships, evicting people and mainly threats to 'out' them to family, neighbours etc
He began insulting, harassing and abusing members publicly and by PM.
He found several girls facebook profiles and posted photographs of them (which of which had a WG and her child) including their real full names.
He also posted a photograph of a punter, his real name, his wife's names- whom he then called and outed him to her.
He threatened to girls he's met that he knows where they live and described personal details about their homes. As well as threats to evict them.
It was quite disturbing to watch and eventually ended with him threatening to kill himself if certain girls refused to see him.
I feel upset for any of the men or women who might have been affected, which is why I am posting this, so girls can update this if they have any new information/new identities in the future... As he ended his meltdown episode saying that he would get his revenge on prossies as he has multiple accounts.
I would sincerely avoid this one if possible, very hateful and very much into emotional blackmail.
Known AW names- asianbeast, martymcfly88mph, DFK Champion
Known Twiiter accounts - @mmcfly88mph @colombo777
Known phone numbers- 074971413** 079312769** 077075255** 077378859** 079762487** 074377232** 074377101**
Description- Short Indian (5'5" approx) man in his fifties, has an Indian accent, smooth skin, no facial hair, brown eyes, not fat or thin- bit of a belly, brown eyes, 80's style clothes. Quite nervous and excitable. Overly complimentary in both person and AW feedback. Very much into sloppy DFK and salvia exchange.
Area- Hounslow
Uses the name Kevin/Kam
Feel free to PM
Stay safe
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Angel, it's not clear whether you have been directly affected by this man or whether this is just third party hearsay?
If it's the latter, then it's not enough to merit posting somebody's details in a warnings sections and one of the people who can post from actual experience needs to do so.
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Sorry for not making that clear.
I have had direct messages from this person threatening to out' me.
Upset and scared at the moment
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Even I have heard of this man. He's insane.
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Even I have heard of this man. He's insane.
I appreciate this (and thanks for clarifying Angel :)), but for the benefit of everybody else, the equivalent of 'I read somewhere on the internet that X bloke is a nutter' is not sufficient grounds for a warning on here. Nobody is expected to identify themselves or anybody else, but if somebody is going to accuse someone else of warning-worthy behaviour you have to both be able and prepared to substantiate it, or not only do we all just look like twats, but it doesn't help anyone. Save it for Twitter.
If multiple people have been affected, no doubt some of them will step up soon. Everybody else can read it when they do :).
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I have nearly 100 screenshots proving his abuse and 'outing' towards myself and others.
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Well anybody who wants to see then can PM.
Even though a mobile would be helpful it's really not that important as somebody as calculated as this sounds is likely going through SIMs like we do condoms, so please don't worry about not having a number. As said, it sounds likely that somebody else involved will see this and be able to add some pieces to the picture - this is exactly the sort of thing this section is for :).
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Following a couple of PMs I've had, I'll also remind anybody who's concerned about being identified and doesn't want to post publicly that they can PM any of the moderation or admin team with info and we can do it, or for those who aren't registered on the forum, email the SAAFE admin address on the main site :).
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Both Mobile numbers used by this punter:074971413**, 079312769**
[Mobile numbers censored - PLEASE read rules before posting in this section]
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He uses name Kevin (not sure if real)
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Hi he is dangerous I think.
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Hi CG and welcome to SAAFE
This section isn't for discussion, but it's worth pointing out that this is one of many threads we have here demonstrating that Adultwork feedback is meaningless.
As for the specifics, according to the OP this 'meltdown' incident occurred at some point very recently/over the last few days, so it would be unsurprising that this punter is trying to make contact with people he hasn't met previously if he's pretty much burned his bridges elsewhere. Nobody here can tell you what to do or who to book any more than we can answer your questions about what a total stranger is thinking, but without knowing anything about the detail I think most of us would suggest applying caution here - do you really need the hassle for the sake of a few quid?
You could always PM if you want more info, although I'd remind everybody here (including the posters on this thread) not to give any information out about themselves (or which could compromise their anonymity, should they wish to maintain it) to random strangers via the messaging system, either.
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Amy I deleted most of my message. what I meant was he has good AW fb on both his user names. they are from girls with best feedback. also repeat girls with good AW fb. Why girls repeat with him if he is dangerous? they keep seeing him and give positive fb. this is confusing. how can AW feeback be fake for those well respected girls? very confused.
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Well there was no need to delete the post, but threads in this sections are for people to add important information that could help others and so they need to be concise, specific and easy for everyone to read without getting cluttered up by off topic stuff :).
The OP has said that this punter is fine during actual bookings and has only recently started misbehaving, so that would account for at least some of it. If you'd like to discuss how crap Adultwork feedback is generally, please start a thread in the AW section, or add to one of those that are already there.
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I am really confused, I have seen this guy plenty of times and spoke to him online and have never had a problem? What is going on?
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Ive never met the guy but he added me on twatter a while back , now it seems he has blocked everyone from his account thats a warning to me ??? ???
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As mentioned previously by Amy and also myself in the original post...
This man is fine during bookings, if anything he is overly kind and complementary- buying gifts etc
He has also adopted a similar and exceptionally kind manner via cyber communications.
It seems to be that he flip when things dont go his way.
This all started when certain WGs refused to see him.
As I said, he's manipulative and unpredictable. Often the worst kind.
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Ive never met the guy but he added me on twatter a while back , now it seems he has blocked everyone from his account thats a warning to me ??? ???
i'm sorry but englishrebecca121 has seen him. She seemed to enjoy this man and left positive AW feedback for him. what is going on here? I have screenshots to prove rebecca121 left good feedback.
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CG, anybody who has been contacted by this punter will be able to see his feedback for themselves - nobody needs screenshots of it, and it isn't clear why you're quite so obsessed - a lot of this is apparently nothing to do with Adultwork and concerns Twitter, and other online channels?
If you want to see him, nobody's stopping you - all anybody can do is read the thread and draw their own conclusions, but if you have no actual information to add then please stay off this topic. If business is slow and you're feeling the pinch or less able to turn punters away, then by all means post a thread in Q&A or the Buddy section - there's plenty of support here :).
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Ive never met the guy but he added me on twatter a while back , now it seems he has blocked everyone from his account thats a warning to me ??? ???
i'm sorry but englishrebecca121 has seen him. She seemed to enjoy this man and left positive AW feedback for him. what is going on here? I have screenshots to prove rebecca121 left good feedback.
Let me spell it out for you (and sorry Amy for the discussion) - GOOD PUNTERS CAN TURN BAD. PM the OP if you want more details, or PM any of the other ladies who agree with Angel. Postitive feedback - which is something that needs to be discussed in a different section - is NO GUARANTEE that anyone are who they say they are, nor if they will be nice to you, nor if they will continue to be a nice punter.
See him if you want to see him, no one is stopping you. The warnings section is just that - warnings. You're not banned from seeing anyone in this section :)
Angel has stated her warning, other ladies have agreed with their experience(s), that's exactly what this section is for.
OP (etc) - please submit an UM report.
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Ive never met the guy but he added me on twatter a while back , now it seems he has blocked everyone from his account thats a warning to me ??? ???
i'm sorry but englishrebecca121 has seen him. She seemed to enjoy this man and left positive AW feedback for him. what is going on here? I have screenshots to prove rebecca121 left good feedback.
It's a shame to keep having to repeat this. We all know that AW feedback can mean very little.
Read my above post, In this case, I have experienced and heard nothing but him being a gentleman during bookings.
I and many others have had good face to face experoences with this man, so of course there is positive feedback.
Regardless, the information in the original post is accurate. It's is a very recent cyber attack that is being discussed. With threats to take physical action upon these threats.
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ihave just been alerted i have seen him under a different username ages ago at the time i had no hassle from him but i was on tour so prehaps i was lucky"! daisy please dont undermine me the guy is now clearly a fruit loop who needs help as cat said clients change there spots very quickly
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Great, that's all sorted out then.
Two off-topic posts removed. One more time for the cheap seats - if you have nothing specific or useful to add and just want to shoot the breeze about Adultwork feedback, do it somewhere else.
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After this morning receiving information from another member who has been affected by this punter, I now have details of a supportive solicitor who is assisting those involved with the legal action :).
All the information we have regarding the individual himself is already in this thread, but anybody who has anything which may be helpful in further building the case and would like the contact information, please PM or email.
I should probably point out that I'm away until Monday without a laptop and will only be online sporadically, but the moderators will have this information too and for anything urgent please use the Report button.
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I have an iPhone number for him.
If anyone needs it pm me still active
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I saw him in heathrow ages and ages ago. april last year.
thought he was fine, if not a bit odd. he was very
persistent about getting a booking with me, but i was only there for the day.
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I have found out that he has outed me and stuck a photo of me and my daughter from my Facebook page!!!! my real name included.
WTF?? What an absolute creep. I need to get rid of it. his status on twitter is now hidden :( :(
if he knows my name, and the town i live in, how much more info can he get of me??
Really f'ing creeped out right now, why would he post a photo of my child!!
i don't know how he found me, my privacy settings are on!
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I saw him in heathrow ages and ages ago. april last year.
thought he was fine, if not a bit odd. he was very
persistent about getting a booking with me, but i was only there for the day.
EDIT:
I have found out that he has outed me and stuck a photo of me and my daughter from my Facebook page!!!! my real name included.
WTF?? What an absolute creep. I need to get rid of it. his status on twitter is now hidden :( :(
if he knows my name, and the town i live in, how much more info can he get of me??
Really f'ing creeped out right now, why would he post a photo of my child!!
i don't know how he found me, my privacy settings are on!
Hello Louise, yes I saw this.
I have been trying to get in contact with you for a few days but couldn't access your AW account for some reason. Feel free to PM me for more details.
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Hello all
Just to let you know that more details have been added to the original post, including new phone numbers and descriptions.
If anyone feels that they can add to this then please let me know.
A full report has also been uploaded to UglyMugs
Make sure your privacy settings on personal social media are secure.
Do a search of your name/phone number on Google to check how private your details are.
There are several people working hard to sort this out
Stay safe
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Sent u a pm.
If you didn't get it, send me one as can't see anything in my sent box.
Would like as much info as possible please.
Don't know why he has a vendetta against me.
Only found out today because of the punting forum.
Gutted is an understatement.
Money isn't worth this shit.
Who would post a photo of my child.
Hundred profile photos that are on there. Could of at least just taken a mug shot of me!
. Twisted evil creep.
Some people have no limits.
Feel sick to the stomach with this.
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Sent u a pm.
If you didn't get it, send me one as can't see anything in my sent box.
Would like as much info as possible please.
Don't know why he has a vendetta against me.
Only found out today because of the punting forum.
Gutted is an understatement.
Money isn't worth this shit.
Who would post a photo of my child.
Hundred profile photos that are on there. Could of at least just taken a mug shot of me!
. Twisted evil creep.
Some people have no limits.
Feel sick to the stomach with this.
Bear with me, I will send you a PM x
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Girls be careful this one has multiple twitter accounts some posting as females ! be careful who you add!
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Girls be careful this one has multiple twitter accounts some posting as females ! be careful who you add!
Could you add the names of these so that people can keep an eye out for them? It's fine to post Twitter names here as they're not identifying and we're not really any better off here without them - if you'd rather not publicly let on the ones you know, PM me and I can send them :).
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Hi amy one of the accounts was ashley 21 but now not active :FF sorry cant be more help ive also been told from a verified person he is heading for bristol area just to make others aware x
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Im suprised this man is two faced i cannot still believe how he did all this. Ive seen him many times and never had problems but he behaved strangely last time he saw me a month ago. he has always been like gentalman and always brings some present like card chocolates amd wine. hes so charming and kind but always nervous. he always brings water and his own plastic bag with grooming things and shows me his bag to prove he is clean. he always shower at my home and moves the shower to very low because he is very short. Im tall and he is about 8 inch shorter than me. I know this because after hes gone i move my shower up by 8 inches. this means hes about 5 or most 5-2. grey hair. much more gray than black. looks quite bald but not total bald. now about strange behaviour. last time he saw me he said his aw profile was hacked. He then asked me to check on my computer about any aw aliases. i told him my aw account was down. this was true. he was good with me all the time but very nervous. also, last time he phoned me from his new number. i dont think heis dangeous but seems very nervous. i will not see him. better be safe and less worry. i know more about him but can only give info by pm just in case he follows this place.
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How much more dangerous can you get? Without being physical of course.
He posted a photo of my school child on Twitter? With my photo and my real name.
Saying I was a whore shaming my family.
To involve my daughter is beyond sick, and has the potential to ruin lives.
He gets hold of your personal details and stores them for x amount of time for absolutely no reason??
I saw him once for 30 minutes.
You cannot get much worse than that.
Girls keep away from him.
He might seem normal in bookings but he is not!
This man is disgusting.
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How much more dangerous can you get? Without being physical of course.
He posted a photo of my school child on Twitter? With my photo and my real name.
Saying I was a whore shaming my family.
To involve my daughter is beyond sick, and has the potential to ruin lives.
He gets hold of your personal details and stores them for x amount of time for absolutely no reason??
I saw him once for 30 minutes.
You cannot get much worse than that.
Girls keep away from him.
He might seem normal in bookings but he is not!
This man is disgusting.
sorry to hear your story. why has he posted two photos? where did he get photo of your child from? is he threatening your child? he has always been nice in person. how was he with you? send pm if you like.
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SL, this thread is for information regarding the man in the title, not speculation about the women affected who understandably (and perfectly sensibly) will not be posting sensitive content on a public forum.
Please PM me with the information you mentioned in your previous post.
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SL, this thread is for information regarding the man in the title, not speculation about the women affected who understandably (and perfectly sensibly) will not be posting sensitive content on a public forum.
Please PM me with the information you mentioned in your previous post.
Hello, amy. Which information are you asking about? I sent angela a PM but there is nothing in my sent messages folder.
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i know more about him but can only give info by pm just in case he follows this place.
Whichever information you were referring to in the post above, please.
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There has been some speculation as to whether the dangerous punter 'asianbeast' mentioned here is the same 'asianbeast' profile currently active on a well known punting forum.
This has been confirmed true, so be careful and feel free to get in touch if you have concerns or are contacted by this account.
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Hello,
Thanks for letting us know about this issue. We?ve investigated and suspended the account you reported because this user appears to have created multiple accounts for disruptive purposes, or with overlapping uses, which is a violation of the Twitter Rules (twitter.com/rules).
Please note that the suspended user may appeal the suspension, which could result in the restoration of one or more accounts.
If these problems persist for you on Twitter, please let us know.
Thanks,
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