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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: whu2005 on 06 August 2009, 10:06:10 pm
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Hello Ladies.
I have not formally introduced myself so I thought i would. my name is John, I am 30, and I have been involved on and off in this industry for a few years now (first tried to set up an agency when I was 16! Didn't work out :) )
I recently had contacts over in Portugal, and have got to know quite a lot of high end Escorts. The last site i was involved in was going to be run as an agency. Long story short, I am fed up with having to rely on other people for things so I am launching a couple of my own sites very soon.
What I would like to know is, what do Escorts want from a web site?
I have seen that allot of girls seem to have had bad experiences. And some people seem to think any man with a web site is just trying fleece hard working girls.
Now the first site to be launched will be a simple site where Escorts From around europe, can advertise. Its as simple as that. I few of the girls I already know from before, love the idea and know that I will improve their client base, but how do i distinguish myself from the scammers?
For a few Escorts that will have profiles when the site launches, there is no charge at first. I have said I will provide more high end clients for the girls, and then at some point later, ask if they want to stay on the site for a fee. if not I take them off - simple.
I was going to offer a service where the site can take bookings for the girls, but I think i will leave that for now and just keep things straight forward.
I have helped out girls in the past with various issues, especially safety. Of-course I want to earn but not at the expense of any one.
So, Is there anything else that, as an Escort, you would like to see sites offering?
Sorry if that's a bit long and rampling! ::)
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Hello there, welcome,
I think ur idea of this website is a good one but u have to be realistic and honest. You may well find that most ladies in this industry will have the same opinion when it comes to a MAN being behind an agency or website claiming to be out to help us women in this kind of work !!! For me personally if your to suceed and evenually make any kind of money from this you need to gain women trust and build an honest reputation first and fore most, it'll be the only way forward for you. I personally like your idea of building an escorts profile on your website and advertising herself/services, I think it would only be right that if she manages to secure say a minmum of 2 booking via your site then a fee for her profile is then justfied, just not sure how you could monitor any work she could get unless the bookings came via you first !! that could work, worth a thought. t's def something I would sign up for straight away, if that idea works your site would be over run with escorts and you'd be making decent money in no time, secrect is though not to get greedy with it, remember, building a solid reputation and people trust would be good for you,this would seriously set you aside from these worthless scammers out there. Give it some thought ..........................
I'd love to know how you go with it or any other ideas other ladies on this site may have. Im very new to this site and still finding my feets with it but i'm finding it so usefull, can't get me off of it now LOL
Wishin you well, bye for now J
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I am not clear about what it is you intend to do, beyond have a website.
It sounds like an advertising site but then you said
I have said I will provide more high end clients for the girls
.. is that via acting as an agency or just being such a wonderful ad site that 'high end' clients flock to use it?
New ad sites often offer free ads at first as a way of answering the basic question 'why should I advertise with you?' You need to have an answer for that when you start charging for ads: there is a lot of competition out there, including places where you can advertise for free.
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I am not clear about what it is you intend to do, beyond have a website.
It sounds like an advertising site but then you said
I have said I will provide more high end clients for the girls
.. is that via acting as an agency or just being such a wonderful ad site that 'high end' clients flock to use it?
New ad sites often offer free ads at first as a way of answering the basic question 'why should I advertise with you?' You need to have an answer for that when you start charging for ads: there is a lot of competition out there, including places where you can advertise for free.
Well said. Why would we pay for advertising on a completely unknown site when there are so many established and well-thought of directories for free (or near enough)? If you want to start a directory you'll be in good company; I have lost track of the number of emails I get inviting me to join yet another new one which disappears in six months - often, it seems from men who clearly think that getting involved with prostitutes is a licence to print money without having to do anything themselves.
This thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=909.0) might interest you (and I'd forgotten how funny it is ;D). At least it's a lesson in how not to do it. Making sycophantic posts on here won't endear to you to many of us either, it has to be said.
I would have thought that 'high end' clients (whatever that is supposed to mean) generally use established top-drawer agencies, not total unknown quantities - these are people who want a proven track record. Are you actually proposing starting an agency? And [pedant/] 'the word 'escort' is not capitalised, any more than the word 'plumber', or 'nurse' is [pedant]. Sloppy mistakes like this will not help you - if your English is crap, get somebody else to write your site for you, and then get three other people to check it.
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Hello again and thank you both for your replies.
I have held back from posting as I new it would get some negative feedback. But that's why I am here. I am asking you what you would like a site to do?
When I said I will provide high end clients, all i meant is that I will be marketing the site towards these types of clients, in the right media. I am not 100% new to this and I only got into the web side of things through a girl I was partnering in Portugal.
I have a few Escorts that want to work alongside me, but right now I don't feel like having another partner. If i wanted I could have posted as a woman on here to try get more support (that would be strange and would not do it ! Just making a point) but that's not what I am about. I am not going to guarantee anything and not asking for huge sign up fees.
I will be spending money marketing the site, so I will be out of pocket to start, and for a while I'm sure.
I can understand your distrust, I'm sure lots of men want to earn easy money, but that's not me.
I have worked as a driver, on the door at a 'in call' house,/parlor arranged bookings for international girls...all sorts.
Justme68 - Thanks for those words and the positive post.
I did think about taking bookings via the site for the girls, but It would only be through email as men don't seem to like talking to men when they are booking, also I have a full time job plus allot of other things on the go so would not really be able to take calls. Taking bookings by email could work but i think it would put me at a disadvantage.
I know Escorts that pay up to 500 Euro per month for top billing on sites in Europe! If you get 2 clients per week at 400 -500 Euro per hour (and booking that go way over) then the 500 Euro is well spent.
We will just have to see how things go, I just wanted opinions and what Escorts would like from a site.
Thank you all for replies.
John.
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When I said I will provide high end clients, all i meant is that I will be marketing the site towards these types of clients, in the right media.
As opposed to what other media? And how are we defining these 'high end' clients you keep going on about? Do you just mean rich business types who are likely to spend more money per booking (I find it a very common assumption that these are the clients we are all falling over ourselves to meet, usually by people who have never done the job). Exactly how is this supposed to benefit the vast majority of us, who do not live in big cities or charge ridiculous rates? Quite apart from anything else, my admittedly limited experience of such clients is that they tend to be arrogant, demanding, rude and generally not the sort of people I would want to spend even a short lift journey with; nor do they often provide repeat business which is the cornerstone of my income and I am sure that of a lot of other ladies.
I have a few Escorts that want to work alongside me, but right now I don't feel like having another partner. If i wanted I could have posted as a woman on here to try get more support (that would be strange and would not do it ! Just making a point) but that's not what I am about. I am not going to guarantee anything and not asking for huge sign up fees.
I will be spending money marketing the site, so I will be out of pocket to start, and for a while I'm sure.
I can understand your distrust, I'm sure lots of men want to earn easy money, but that's not me.
It's not distrust as such, more weary resignation at hearing the same thing over and over again. The only difference is that it is on our forum rather than sitting in my Inbox along with the rest of the chancers.
I did think about taking bookings via the site for the girls, but It would only be through email as men don't seem to like talking to men when they are booking, also I have a full time job plus allot of other things on the go so would not really be able to take calls. Taking bookings by email could work but i think it would put me at a disadvantage.
Too right it would. Pimping/controlling for gain is illegal in the UK, and whilst the established agencies and even parlours don't generally have too much to worry about (apart from recent cases in the North East with a very well established agency, and also a couple of Manchester parlours), I wouldn't be in any hurry to start a new operation until I at least knew how the proposed new legislation is going to go. Independent workers prefer to choose our own clients; that is why we are independent.
I know Escorts that pay up to 500 Euro per month for top billing on sites in Europe! If you get 2 clients per week at 400 -500 Euro per hour (and booking that go way over) then the 500 Euro is well spent.
But this is the UK - the most expensive major advertising site I know of is Cherry Girls at ?100 per month. Again, why would anybody pay x times that when it just isn't necessary over here? And surely you would be wanting to attract as many advertisers as possible to make your site look full - how many independent ladies do you think charge rates like that (AND would advertise on an unkn0wn site?). In a nutshell, what exactly do you have against us plebs?
And, purely for example purposes, I can say that I have earnt considerably more than your 'high end' example above for the last two weeks, and next week is looking pretty good too. All you are doing by being snooty and selective is putting huge numbers of potential customers off (which is fine, because they are welcome to come and see me ;D).
We will just have to see how things go, I just wanted opinions and what Escorts would like from a site.
I'm sorry, but it's like nails down a blackboard. NO CAPITAL, FFS. Or is this how the 'high end' escorts write it? ::)
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This thread (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=909.0) might interest you (and I'd forgotten how funny it is ;D). At least it's a lesson in how not to do it. Making sycophantic posts on here won't endear to you to many of us either, it has to be said.
LOL...that tops the list for the longest, drawn out threads on the site...what a brawl! :-X :D
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my admittedly limited experience of such clients is that they tend to be arrogant, demanding, rude and generally not the sort of people I would want to spend even a short lift journey with; nor do they often provide repeat business which is the cornerstone of my income and I am sure that of a lot of other ladies.
Whew...hurricane Amy has struck with a tremendous force :D
But on a serious note, Amy you are absolutely right...most of the 'high end' clients do not become regulars (you mentioned 'trophy hunters' before). Its one of the reasons I myself find having to change up my name and photos periodically because although these people hire regularly and frequently, its always to the next escort and to the next. In a way you have to almost 'force' them become a regular, by becoming a new person from time to time so they think you're new.
I agree also, there's lots of directories but the main ones (atleast from my experience in my 'world') come from about 2 or 3 main listings which have been around for years.
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At the risk of coming across as an increasingly grumpier and grumpier codger I was going to fire of a response ? only to see that Amy echoed my thoughts (without the codger bit so lol)
Anyway, to add to the thread ? with so few websites, agencies and/or directories catering for upskale klassy kortesons and their gentleman callers ? I can see the huge potential and need for the kind of proposal you have in mind. And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...? ::)
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And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...? ::)
Pmsl. In order to be proper high end, it seems it would have to be a Wheel. ;)
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And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...? ::)
Pmsl. In order to be proper high end, it seems it would have to be a Wheel. ;)
Yes but it would be platinum plated so my dear! ;D
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well, I was just asking a question. I can see that you may have had many similar posts, so i know where you are coming from.
Also, as I say, I know personally a few girls in the business and I have worked with many, so I expected the responses from some. I didn't mean to coin the term 'high end' sounds poncey at best!
Thanks for feed back!
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Dear John
Well, I worked with a few gents myself but I generally also call them my clients...
Like in any industry, you need to actually provide a service that is different or of interest to the ladies. However, what you are proposing is vague and does not represent anything new or at the least tempting, especially as there is an abundance of established free directories and decent agencies already. Plus it seems like you have not really worked out or thought about what it is you are really offering and have no sound business plan.
Plus I am also a contrary wench or should that be a Wench in that I do not like the idea of a guy latching on to women in this industry and trying to make money out the fruit of their loins! I wish a lot of the guys who keep coming up with New Ideas would simply buy a big Fedora hat, get some bling, a gold tooth, diamond studded cane and somehow get closer to their real business model!
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Also, as I say, I know personally a few girls in the business and I have worked with many, so I expected the responses from some.
Why didn't you just ask them then? Or did they say exactly the same thing?
Plus I am also a contrary wench or should that be a Wench in that I do not like the idea of a guy latching on to women in this industry and trying to make money out the fruit of their loins! I wish a lot of the guys who keep coming up with New Ideas would simply buy a big Fedora hat, get some bling, a gold tooth, diamond studded cane and somehow get closer to their real business model!
Try here (http://www.pimpdaddy.com/) ;D ;D ;D
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I replied once but this thing crashed!
I have never said i had a NEW idea. Offering Escorts free advertising is not trying to get rich off the fruit of the girls loins!
I understand your mentality, but you have not even addressed the question. If you have nothing to contribute then fair enough. But to start being so negative......... its tiring.
I hope your not negative towards me on every thread i post on!
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I have never said i had a NEW idea. Offering Escorts free advertising is not trying to get rich off the fruit of the girls loins!
How do you propose to make money then? Charging clients doesn't work.
I understand your mentality
Foolish, foolish boy. You do not know me, and understand precisely fuck all about my 'mentality', or apparently anything else.
but you have not even addressed the question. If you have nothing to contribute then fair enough. But to start being so negative......... its tiring.
If this tires you out, you're definitely dabbling in the wrong industry. Spitting your dummy out because nobody patted you on the back and said what you wanted to hear ('Ooh, what a wonderful and unique idea!', etc etc); this is not the same as not making a contribution. To answer the original question in the most direct way possible, what I want from a new directory website is for it to quietly disappear, preferably without sending me any spam emails. I usually achieve the first part easily but sadly, rarely the second.
I hope your not negative towards me on every thread i post on!
Why exactly are you posting on a support/advice forum for prostitutes unless it is to tout your business idea?
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Foolish, foolish boy. You do not know me, and understand precisely fuck all about my 'mentality', or apparently anything else.
Why exactly are you posting on a support/advice forum for prostitutes unless it is to tout your business idea?
Have mercy!...she has been upgraded from a hurricane to a typhoon, ye must evacuate the premises! :D
I hope your not negative towards me on every thread i post on!
welcome to the Lion-esses den. Lest ye be chewed up and spit out! Ok I'll keep quiet now, no more commentarials from me its non of my business :-X
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Yes, I would just like to second Amy's NO SPAM suggestion. If you're determined to go ahead and make an escort directory site (please, please don't try to take bookings for girls via email. That's the LAST thing us indie's want, someone who doesn't know how to screen to our own personal specifications getting in the way!) then at least *don't email me about it*. Why would anyone starting a legitimate venture think, "Oh, I know, I'll annoy the crap out of a bunch of people as my first step in advertising myself"?!
There's really not much a bloke can do to help out the average independent escort. Driving and security is about it, and that will probably be more successful to you if you stick with the escorts you've said you already know and worked with, because they might trust you. You can't really do a secretary job, taking calls or emails, because it would be off-putting to clients (as I think you already noted) and also, would take away such a lot of our freedom of choice. Unless you asked the indie before responding to any client request, which would just be a silly faff and she might as well do it all herself in the first place.
I believe that running a successful escort directory site requires a hell of a lot of time and cash for quite a while before you see anything back. If you're that brilliant at the Interwebs, perhaps consider launching a site for the general public about, I dunno, garden furniture, where you can make lots of revenue from Google ads and don't have to deal with a bunch of snarky women. ;) I mean, Women.
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Hi John,
Im so sorry you seem to have rec'd a fair bit of negative feedback regarding ur thread/initial question. its such a shame. I have found this site to be a god send to me in terms of support/advice/ideas since joining it only a few days ago now. From what i've read so far about the founders of this site it's run by experience working ladies who have been in the business for some years so they do know what their talking about. I dont know if any of these founders are providing you with any advice because I dont actually know who the original founders are !!! t all seems they you appear to have put a few people's backs up with your suggestion, probably because they might be seeing what your offering as a major thread in some way.......................... I personally have NOT found these so called free advertising site of any benefit to me what so ever. This business is so cut throat its unreal a times. There is sooooo much competition out there on these free advertising sites that its realy hard to get any regular business from advertising on them, its very hit and miss at times.
I think you will encounter negative feedback from probably around 80% of working women out there, purely through their own bad experiences with men in this business which is only to be expected, however I would like to add to that, unless you give someone a fighting chance you'll never know, bottom line is the working girl is always in control of her money and if something does'nt look or seem right it usually is'nt ........ gut feeling goes a long way.
I will continue to watch ur thread with interest, hoping and praying that you dont continue to keep getting negative feedback and sargastic comments, thats a complete waste of time in my opinion !!
Good Luck John
P.S Like you said earlier, you did'nt have to introduce yourself as a guy, you could have posed as a working girl and no one on here would have been non the wiser ..................................
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John
I always suggest Ladies who are looking for places to advertise, google relevant keywords and advertise on what comes up, so if you really want to make this thing work, get to the first page of google, for every possible keyword, and they will come running :)
Justme68
This a brief history of Saafe including naming the founders http://www.saafe.info/history.html
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I personally have NOT found these so called free advertising site of any benefit to me what so ever. This business is so cut throat its unreal a times. There is sooooo much competition out there on these free advertising sites that its realy hard to get any regular business from advertising on them, its very hit and miss at times.
Im really surprised at that, as a career escort of many years now, its the same free sites time and time again that bring me work, I stopped paying punternet for advertising a few years ago, without a noticable difference, and as the Janitor suggested, if your appearing on the sites that come up on google, you will be found, I would be happy to offer you advice on the free sites that work for me personaly if thats any help to you, just pm me
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I personally have NOT found these so called free advertising site of any benefit to me what so ever. This business is so cut throat its unreal a times. There is sooooo much competition out there on these free advertising sites that its realy hard to get any regular business from advertising on them, its very hit and miss at times.
Im really surprised at that, as a career escort of many years now, its the same free sites time and time again that bring me work
Me too. Also, having a blog somewhere on your site is a really good and free idea. (Not saying that to you, anjali, I know you have one already!) But maybe another idea for a new girl to try. My blog's relatively new, but clients seem to love it, as well as my Twitter account where I babble about nonsense. ;D
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If you want to offer a site, look at Adultwork and cut out the bareback. Its an amazing tool and more or less free depending how you use it.
Also punterlink, punternet.....
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Hello again.
nice to see that some people can be positive. Thank you for that.
No toys being thrown out of prams this end. ;)
The thing is, I have been in this industry in the past, I know how things work. I am not going into this as a complete novice with no idea. It is a simple idea, which two parties can benefit.
I simply asked a question, a question that I thought would give some Escorts the chance to put forward some constructive idea of what THEY would like. Things that would HELP them? you see? It really is not complicated. Why some people went off on a tangent about other things says allot about someones mentality, and that is fact.
Instead of leaving the thread alone or adding some positive ideas, some people have used my thread to get on a soap box and have taken the thread off in a different direction. If you have a problem with men in the business, start a thread and vent your anger there., please.
This is a great forum and should be used as a tool to improve Escorts business, safety, etc. Don't spoil it please.
I do realise that the way I type doesn't always come across how I would like. I never mean to sound sarcastic, or like my head is stuck up My own ass!
Thanks again for the positive feed back ;D
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Hello again.
nice to see that some people can be positive. Thank you for that.
No toys being thrown out of prams this end. ;)
The thing is, I have been in this industry in the past, I know how things work. I am not going into this as a complete novice with no idea. It is a simple idea, which two parties can benefit.
I simply asked a question, a question that I thought would give some Escorts the chance to put forward some constructive idea of what THEY would like. Things that would HELP them? you see? It really is not complicated. Why some people went off on a tangent about other things says allot about someones mentality, and that is fact.
Instead of leaving the thread alone or adding some positive ideas, some people have used my thread to get on a soap box and have taken the thread off in a different direction. If you have a problem with men in the business, start a thread and vent your anger there., please.
This is a great forum and should be used as a tool to improve Escorts business, safety, etc. Don't spoil it please.
I do realise that the way I type doesn't always come across how I would like. I never mean to sound sarcastic, or like my head is stuck up My own ass!
Thanks again for the positive feed back ;D
I have no problem whatsoever with men in this business; my accountant is a man, and the majority of the sites I advertise on are run by men (Punterlink, Punternet, Puntingzone, UK Belles and so on). There are men who make valuable contributions to this forum, some escorts, others not. You have made it clear that you know very little about 'how things work' within the industry by your very presence here - did you read the thread I linked to earlier? If you want to start a directory and you know so much about it, why not just get on with it?
The only thing currently spoiling the forum is your patronising attitude towards the ladies on it who have the real experience of the job (including taking care of their advertising, bookings and so on). We have told you what we want from a directory, and if that isn't good enough then why stay here and flog a dead horse? This is a support site for escorts, not wannabee pimps (male or female) and if you want to know about building a successful advertising resource then I would suggest a far more constructive approach would be to contact some of those who have already done it.
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Actually, I have a great business idea. No one else thought of it and I am sure it will have unique selling potential. I am going to set up an ecommerce site selling Giant Bonsais! So excuse me peeps but I am now going to find some gardening forums and tell everyone there that I know a few gardeners and pretend to ask for their advice but then jump down their throat if they dare to mock my master plan of offering High End Giant Miniature Trees.
Oh and I will endear myself even further on such forums by telling the posters there what the purpose of their boards is and how they are spoiling the spirit of it. Before I go, does anyone want a giant cherry tree bonsai, got one fine specimen in my garden. What about a Fig Tree ? or does no one give a fig...?
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This is a support site for escorts [...] and if you want to know about building a successful advertising resource then I would suggest a far more constructive approach would be to contact some of those who have already done it.
Sorry to quote you so much Amy, I'm like some sort of annoying kid sister. :P But this point is one I've not seen mentioned before despite how much sense it makes.
I think asking Galahad at Punternet or Thingy (sorry) at Punterlink would be a really great way to get started, whu2005! Or maybe launch your site and get it a bit successful, then pop a news item on it asking for escorts' ideas for improvement? That way, they can reply if they want to and you'll be reaching your real target audience. :)
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You'll need to expect a bit of criticism when you come on to a support forum for escorts and ask for advice on how to start up a directory/agency site. To be frank, why blokes keep coming on SAAFE and doing this, I don't know. I can only assume it's because it's frequented by mainly women.
First and foremost, it is a support and advice site for escorts. So it would follow that you would receive comments from escorts here that have been working for a few years who know exactly what they want and aren't afraid to express their feelings when asked.
Amy and BH could've been a tad nicer to you but yes, as the other link demonstrates, we've heard it all before. And no disrespect, but it's boring. The highlighted link is not the first time we've been asked this question. Hence the ladies' short temper with you.
And it's nothing to do with being a bloke. Contrary to what justme68 says, you already pretty much revealed you were a bloke early on in your posts. And your member name, WHU2005 just looks it's short for West Ham United 2005. So I kind of figured you were a bloke from the off.
The problem is you happen to be a guy, who thinks they've got the next best thing in escort directories to sliced bread. If you really are serious, drop a line to the webmasters you've been given as examples. They've been going for years and as a bloke it might be best to get a male perspective on what a directory might entail.
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Dear ,oh dear, oh dear
This is my last post on this thread. I don't need or want to offend anyone, but, it really is like talking to a brick wall. Two ladies on here in particular are like pitballs with a bone! It's not healthy ladies.
You just keep going on, being sarcastic and having a go, and you are now making yourselves look completely thick because you are arguing, and accusing me of things i have not done!
I do not think, or have i said, that I have the next big thing, or the next best thing since sliced bread, I have never claimed to have a unique angle which will make me loads of money. I have not asked how to set up a directory. Read the title!!!!
All I done was ask you what you would like??? get it? what would HELP Escorts. Yes, HELP? be of interest to them when they advertise their services. I have personally had to help/support girls (Escorts) in the past, and wanted only opinions on what WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU? and what did this thread get instead? Accusations, assumptions, sarcasm and pop shots.
Brandy, If I would have wanted to portray myself as a female escort (Not that this matters or was every a consideration) but i would obviously have chosen a different name and typed in a different manner. That's all nothing though.
The bottom line is that I was trying to get some positive feed back for something that could possibly be of help to Escorts, and that didn't happen , for whatever reason.
I'm sure you will try and make me the bad guy here. Or maybe you will be a bit more grown up and leave this thread alone?
Never mind .
I will not post on this thread any more.
Thanks for the replies though, I actually did learn allot ;)
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This is my last post on this thread.
Thank f*ck for that.
I don't need or want to offend anyone, but, it really is like talking to a brick wall. Two ladies on here in particular are like pitballs with a bone! It's not healthy ladies.
So you're a doctor too? Fascinating.
You just keep going on, being sarcastic and having a go, and you are now making yourselves look completely thick because you are arguing, and accusing me of things i have not done!
You do realise that by resorting to personal attacks on other posters, you have immediately lost your argument, assuming you ever had one. And incidentally, before you start calling intelligent, successful, independent businesswomen thick, you might want to brush up on your spelling, punctuation and grammar; it's an absolute disgrace. Could you point us towards where anybody accused you of doing anything? As even you don't seem to have any concrete ideas about what you're doing, how on earth would any of us know?
I do not think, or have i said, that I have the next big thing, or the next best thing since sliced bread, I have never claimed to have a unique angle which will make me loads of money. I have not asked how to set up a directory. Read the title!!!!
All I done was ask you what you would like??? get it? what would HELP Escorts. Yes, HELP? be of interest to them when they advertise their services. I have personally had to help/support girls (Escorts) in the past, and wanted only opinions on what WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU? and what did this thread get instead? Accusations, assumptions, sarcasm and pop shots.
Bless. Temper temper. For what it's worth, I imagine that virtually all escorts on here and elsewhere know very well what they want. They just can't see why there would be any reason to tell you, and the arrogant, blinkered assumption that we need your 'help' in some way is the major reason why you are pissing people off.
I will not post on this thread any more.
Thanks for the replies though, I actually did learn allot ;)
Hallelujah. Although I'll believe it when I see it ::).
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I do not think, or have i said, that I have the next big thing, or the next best thing since sliced bread, I have never claimed to have a unique angle which will make me loads of money. I have not asked how to set up a directory. Read the title!!!!
Well, actually, you kinda did. Asking us what escorts seek from a directory is more or less the same as asking how to set one up.
My comments re: you writing as female was directed at justme68. Not you.
At the end of the day, the truth is, there is very little we need as the sites mentioned in this whole thread seems to cover all bases. They've been around for years, therefore they're established. Some of them have even improved on themselves, therefore leaving very little need for new sites.
Shame you were a little apoplectic in your last post. But I hope as you say, you've learnt something.
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it really is like talking to a brick wall.
If you want to deal with sheep, become a farmer.
You need to be rather self-confident to be a successful escort given that 99% of the people you know would tell you not to do it (should they ever know what was going on!) Sometimes this comes across as arrogance etc, and indeed some people do sometimes forget that what works for them will not necessarily work for everyone else.
But I know I used to get several calls from the clueless wanting to make money off escorts (although they didn't usually put it like that) and I can quite believe that other people here get 'please help me earn a living off you' emails / calls on a daily basis.
So I can understand the response, even if it's been a bit blunt at times.
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Oh diddums... Did those nasty prossies not kiss your heini? Oh dear, oh dear we might be banging our heads against walls but only because we are so tired of guys who come on here with less than a half baked idea how to make money basically trying to profit and cash in from our work. Well, this is a community set up by escorts for fellow escorts. It isn?t a board that advises fellow pimps on where to get the best Fedora although Amy kindly provided that info for you.
Luckily, the large majority of my clients are lovely respectful gents. We all do get the odd arrogant guy and we smile and pander to their ego. However, they pay us well to do it. But most of us sure as hell will not massage the fragile ego of some humourless little prick on here who wants to take short cuts and without any sensible business plan or proper research hoping to jump on the bandwagon of countless other dilettantes that think they can make easy money from prostitution! For a start perhaps you ought to do well to realise that in that case you need to buck up your ideas and adjust your snide comments and remember that if you are trying to solicit for a service on here or want input than you could do with a lot more humility and adopt some respectful behaviour towards your potential clients. We are bored of guys that do not bother to research first and who do not even check out the countless threads on here that repeat exactly the same old same old. We are not here to give you free business advice or come up with ideas for you to make money if you cannot even read existing threads on the very same topic. You have nothing interesting or new to offer. Who cares that you know a few escorts or should that be Escorts? I tend to call those guys whore hags and have little patience for pratts who either try to muscle in and/or attempt to make an easy quick buck or who appear to get off on the idea of knowing prossies. I believe in WGs working independently, supporting each other and being in full control of our business. So unless you can conduct yourself in a respectful and professional manner with something worthwhile to offer don?t expect any other reaction! There are already great free directories that do the job well and who treat the ladies with respect. In my past job ? I would have laughed and kicked out anyone with such an attitude and lack of tangible useful business proposal. Just because we work in the adult industry does not mean we cannot spot someone who has absolutely no idea about marketing and SEO.
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And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...? ::)
Pmsl. In order to be proper high end, it seems it would have to be a Wheel. ;)
Yes but it would be platinum plated so my dear! ;D
Would that be platinum as in PlatinumSelect.com ;D