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whu2005

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What Escorts want......
« on: 06 August 2009, 10:06:10 pm »

 Hello Ladies.

 I have not formally introduced myself so I thought i would. my name is John, I am 30, and  I have been involved on and off in this industry for a few years now (first tried to set up an agency when I was 16! Didn't work out  :)  )

 I recently had contacts over in Portugal, and have got to know quite a lot of high end Escorts. The last site i was involved in was going to be run as an agency. Long story short, I am fed up with having to rely on other people for things so I am launching a couple of my own sites very soon.

 What I would like to know is, what do Escorts want from a web site? 

  I have seen that allot of girls seem to have had bad experiences. And some people seem to think any man with a web site is just trying fleece hard working girls.

 Now the first site to be launched will be a simple site where Escorts  From around europe, can advertise. Its as simple as that. I few of the girls I already know from before, love the idea and know that I will improve their client base, but how do i distinguish myself from the scammers?

 For a few Escorts that will have profiles when the site launches,  there is no charge at first. I have said I will provide more high end clients for the girls, and then at some point later, ask if they want to stay on the site for a fee. if not I take them off  - simple.

 I was going to offer a service where the site can take bookings for the girls, but I think i will leave that for now and just keep things straight forward.

 I have helped out girls in the past with various issues, especially safety. Of-course I want to earn but not at the expense of any one.

 So, Is there anything else that, as an Escort, you would like to see sites offering?

 Sorry if that's a bit long and rampling!  ::)

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« Reply #1 on: 06 August 2009, 10:35:04 pm »
Hello there, welcome,

I think ur idea of this website is a good one but u have to be realistic and honest. You may well find that most ladies in this industry will have the same opinion when it comes to a MAN being behind an agency or website claiming to be out to help us women in this kind of work !!! For me personally if your to suceed and evenually make any kind of money from this you need to gain women trust and build an honest reputation first and fore most, it'll be the only way forward for you. I personally like your idea of building an escorts profile on your website and advertising herself/services, I think it would only be right that if she manages to secure say a minmum of 2 booking via your site then a fee for her profile is then justfied, just not sure how you could monitor any work she could get unless the bookings came via you first !! that could work, worth a thought. t's def something I would sign up for straight away, if that idea works your site would be over run with escorts and you'd be making decent money in no time, secrect is though not to get greedy with it, remember, building a solid reputation and people trust would be good for you,this would seriously set you aside from these worthless scammers out there. Give it some thought ..........................

I'd love to know how you go with it or any other ideas other ladies on this site may have. Im very new to this site and still finding my feets with it but i'm finding it so usefull, can't get me off of it now LOL

Wishin you well, bye for now J







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« Reply #2 on: 06 August 2009, 10:41:13 pm »
I am not clear about what it is you intend to do, beyond have a website.

It sounds like an advertising site but then you said

I have said I will provide more high end clients for the girls

.. is that via acting as an agency or just being such a wonderful ad site that 'high end' clients flock to use it?

New ad sites often offer free ads at first as a way of answering the basic question 'why should I advertise with you?' You need to have an answer for that when you start charging for ads: there is a lot of competition out there, including places where you can advertise for free.
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« Reply #3 on: 06 August 2009, 10:59:54 pm »
I am not clear about what it is you intend to do, beyond have a website.

It sounds like an advertising site but then you said

I have said I will provide more high end clients for the girls

.. is that via acting as an agency or just being such a wonderful ad site that 'high end' clients flock to use it?

New ad sites often offer free ads at first as a way of answering the basic question 'why should I advertise with you?' You need to have an answer for that when you start charging for ads: there is a lot of competition out there, including places where you can advertise for free.

Well said. Why would we pay for advertising on a completely unknown site when there are so many established and well-thought of directories for free (or near enough)? If you want to start a directory you'll be in good company; I have lost track of the number of emails I get inviting me to join yet another new one which disappears in six months - often, it seems from men who clearly think that getting involved with prostitutes is a licence to print money without having to do anything themselves.

This thread might interest you (and I'd forgotten how funny it is  ;D). At least it's a lesson in how not to do it. Making sycophantic posts on here won't endear to you to many of us either, it has to be said.

I would have thought that 'high end' clients (whatever that is supposed to mean) generally use established top-drawer agencies, not total unknown quantities - these are people who want a proven track record. Are you actually proposing starting an agency? And [pedant/] 'the word 'escort' is not capitalised, any more than the word 'plumber', or 'nurse' is [pedant]. Sloppy mistakes like this will not help you - if your English is crap, get somebody else to write your site for you, and then get three other people to check it.

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« Reply #4 on: 06 August 2009, 11:23:16 pm »

 Hello again and thank you both for your replies.

 I have held back from posting as I new it would get some negative feedback. But that's why I am here. I am asking you what you would like a site to do?

 When I said I will provide high end  clients, all i meant is that I will be marketing the site towards these types of clients, in the right media. I am not 100% new to this and I only got into the web side of things through a girl I was partnering in Portugal. 

 I have a few Escorts that want to work alongside me, but right now I don't feel like having another partner. If i wanted I could have posted as a woman on here to try get more support (that would be strange and would not do it ! Just making a point)  but that's not what I am about. I am not going to guarantee anything and not asking for huge sign up fees.

 I will be spending money marketing the site, so I will be out of pocket to start, and for a while I'm sure.

 I can understand your distrust, I'm sure lots of men want to earn easy money, but that's not me.

 I   have worked as a driver, on the door at a 'in call'  house,/parlor arranged bookings for international girls...all sorts.

  Justme68 - Thanks for those words and the positive post. 

 I did think about taking bookings via the site for the girls, but It would only be through email as men don't seem to like  talking to men when they are booking, also I have a full time job plus allot of other things on the go so would not really be able to take calls. Taking bookings by email could work but i think it would put me at a disadvantage. 

 I know Escorts that pay up to 500 Euro  per month for top billing on sites in Europe! If you get 2 clients per week at 400 -500 Euro per hour (and booking that go way over) then the 500 Euro is well spent.

 We will just have to see how things go, I just wanted opinions and what Escorts would like from a site.

 Thank you all for replies.

 John.

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« Reply #5 on: 07 August 2009, 12:01:15 am »
When I said I will provide high end  clients, all i meant is that I will be marketing the site towards these types of clients, in the right media.

As opposed to what other media? And how are we defining these 'high end' clients you keep going on about? Do you just mean rich business types who are likely to spend more money per booking (I find it a very common assumption that these are the clients we are all falling over ourselves to meet, usually by people who have never done the job). Exactly how is this supposed to benefit the vast majority of us, who do not live in big cities or charge ridiculous rates? Quite apart from anything else, my admittedly limited experience of such clients is that they tend to be arrogant, demanding, rude and generally not the sort of people I would want to spend even a short lift journey with; nor do they often provide repeat business which is the cornerstone of my income and I am sure that of a lot of other ladies.

I have a few Escorts that want to work alongside me, but right now I don't feel like having another partner. If i wanted I could have posted as a woman on here to try get more support (that would be strange and would not do it ! Just making a point)  but that's not what I am about. I am not going to guarantee anything and not asking for huge sign up fees.

 I will be spending money marketing the site, so I will be out of pocket to start, and for a while I'm sure.

 I can understand your distrust, I'm sure lots of men want to earn easy money, but that's not me.

It's not distrust as such, more weary resignation at hearing the same thing over and over again. The only difference is that it is on our forum rather than sitting in my Inbox along with the rest of the chancers.

I did think about taking bookings via the site for the girls, but It would only be through email as men don't seem to like  talking to men when they are booking, also I have a full time job plus allot of other things on the go so would not really be able to take calls. Taking bookings by email could work but i think it would put me at a disadvantage.

Too right it would. Pimping/controlling for gain is illegal in the UK, and whilst the established agencies and even parlours don't generally have too much to worry about (apart from recent cases in the North East with a very well established agency, and also a couple of Manchester parlours), I wouldn't be in any hurry to start a new operation until I at least knew how the proposed new legislation is going to go. Independent workers prefer to choose our own clients; that is why we are independent.

I know Escorts that pay up to 500 Euro  per month for top billing on sites in Europe! If you get 2 clients per week at 400 -500 Euro per hour (and booking that go way over) then the 500 Euro is well spent.

But this is the UK - the most expensive major advertising site I know of is Cherry Girls at ?100 per month. Again, why would anybody pay x times that when it just isn't necessary over here? And surely you would be wanting to attract as many advertisers as possible to make your site look full - how many independent ladies do you think charge rates like that (AND would advertise on an unkn0wn site?). In a nutshell, what exactly do you have against us plebs?

And, purely for example purposes, I can say that I have earnt considerably more than your 'high end' example above for the last two weeks, and next week is looking pretty good too. All you are doing by being snooty and selective is putting huge numbers of potential customers off (which is fine, because they are welcome to come and see me  ;D).

We will just have to see how things go, I just wanted opinions and what Escorts would like from a site.

I'm sorry, but it's like nails down a blackboard. NO CAPITAL, FFS. Or is this how the 'high end' escorts write it? ::)
« Last Edit: 07 August 2009, 12:04:06 am by amy »

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« Reply #6 on: 07 August 2009, 12:09:19 am »
This thread might interest you (and I'd forgotten how funny it is  ;D). At least it's a lesson in how not to do it. Making sycophantic posts on here won't endear to you to many of us either, it has to be said.

LOL...that tops the list for the longest, drawn out threads on the site...what a brawl!  :-X   :D

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« Reply #7 on: 07 August 2009, 12:23:37 am »
my admittedly limited experience of such clients is that they tend to be arrogant, demanding, rude and generally not the sort of people I would want to spend even a short lift journey with; nor do they often provide repeat business which is the cornerstone of my income and I am sure that of a lot of other ladies.

Whew...hurricane Amy has struck with a tremendous force  :D

But on a serious note, Amy you are absolutely right...most of the 'high end' clients do not become regulars (you mentioned 'trophy hunters' before). Its one of the reasons I myself find having to change up my name and photos periodically because although these people hire regularly and frequently, its always to the next escort and to the next. In a way you have to almost 'force' them become a regular, by becoming a new person from time to time so they think you're new.

I agree also, there's lots of directories but the main ones (atleast from my experience in my 'world') come from about 2 or 3 main listings which have been around for years.

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« Reply #8 on: 07 August 2009, 12:29:34 am »
At the risk of coming across as an increasingly grumpier and grumpier codger I was going to fire of a response ? only to see that Amy echoed my thoughts (without the codger bit so lol)

Anyway, to add to the thread ? with so few websites, agencies and/or directories catering for upskale klassy kortesons and their gentleman callers ? I can see the huge potential and need for the kind of proposal you have in mind.  And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...?   ::)

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« Reply #9 on: 07 August 2009, 12:32:15 am »
And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...?   ::)

Pmsl. In order to be proper high end, it seems it would have to be a Wheel.  ;)

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« Reply #10 on: 07 August 2009, 12:35:13 am »
And while you are at it ? how about reinventing the wheel albeit a more refined and high end version of it...?   ::)

Pmsl. In order to be proper high end, it seems it would have to be a Wheel.  ;)

Yes but it would be platinum plated so my dear!   ;D

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« Reply #11 on: 07 August 2009, 12:46:20 am »

  :)

 well,  I was just asking a question. I can see that you may have had many similar posts, so i know where you are coming from.
 
 Also, as I say, I know personally a few girls in the business and I have worked with many, so I expected the responses from some.   I didn't mean to coin the term 'high end' sounds poncey at best!

 Thanks for feed back!

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« Reply #12 on: 07 August 2009, 12:54:58 am »
Dear John

Well, I worked with a few gents myself but I generally also call them my clients...
 
Like in any industry, you need to actually provide a service that is different or of interest to the ladies.  However, what you are proposing is vague and does not represent anything new or at the least tempting, especially as there is an abundance of established free directories and decent agencies already.  Plus it seems like you have not really worked out or thought about what it is you are really offering and have no sound business plan. 

Plus I am also a contrary wench or should that be a Wench in that I do not like the idea of a guy latching on to women in this industry and trying to make money out the fruit of their loins!  I wish a lot of the guys who keep coming up with New Ideas would simply buy a big Fedora hat, get some bling, a gold tooth, diamond studded cane and somehow get closer to their real business model!       

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« Reply #13 on: 07 August 2009, 01:08:36 am »
Also, as I say, I know personally a few girls in the business and I have worked with many, so I expected the responses from some. 

Why didn't you just ask them then? Or did they say exactly the same thing?

Plus I am also a contrary wench or should that be a Wench in that I do not like the idea of a guy latching on to women in this industry and trying to make money out the fruit of their loins!  I wish a lot of the guys who keep coming up with New Ideas would simply buy a big Fedora hat, get some bling, a gold tooth, diamond studded cane and somehow get closer to their real business model!       
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« Reply #14 on: 07 August 2009, 01:21:51 am »

 I replied once but this thing crashed!

  I have never said i had a NEW idea. Offering Escorts free advertising is not trying to get rich off the fruit of the girls loins!

 I understand your mentality, but you have not even addressed the question. If you have nothing to contribute then fair enough. But to start being so negative......... its tiring.

 I hope your not negative towards me on every thread i post on!