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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: Marianne on 03 December 2019, 06:52:03 pm

Title: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 03 December 2019, 06:52:03 pm
Hi

The TLC Trust is part of The Outsiders Trust - a charity that works with and for people with disabilities around issues concerning sex, sexuality and relationships.

The TLC website advertises screened providers who wish to provide services to disabled clients.

We have been in existence for a number of years but have just had a total facelift. Existing members are re-applying now.

We are looking for new providers to advertise with us. It is free to advertise. You will be expected to provide ID so we can vouch that you are working legally in the UK.

On the new site, you will have control of your own profile in a similar way to adultwork. It's not as detailed as AW as we are on a tight budget but you can add links to your website or other advertising pages.

I don't think we can put a link in here but if you search for TLC Trust hopefully you will find our shiny new website!

Thanks for reading x
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: amy on 03 December 2019, 10:15:29 pm
I don't think we can put a link in here

From the not particularly well hidden posting rules thread at the top of the board:

You may post one thread to advertise whatever you are offering, and in the Spamming section this can include website links/URLs. Links may only be posted once, and not included in signatures or picture captions; duplicate links or touting in signatures will be removed.

Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 04 December 2019, 04:51:06 pm
Thanks Amy, sorry I was in a rush.

https://tlc-trust.org.uk/

Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: scottishmilf on 06 December 2019, 04:04:51 pm
I used to be on the old TLC website not sure why you care about seeing peoples IDs really...
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: English Green on 06 December 2019, 05:14:00 pm
What a strange situation. Surely anybody disabled could either hire an escort themselves or there carer. That is what usually happens when i have seen somebody with a disabilty. But saying that i would only take a booking direct from the client not his help as i have had them contact me before but that is not the set up for me with discretion.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: saltysweet on 06 December 2019, 08:19:53 pm
You will be expected to provide ID so we can vouch that you are working legally in the UK.

No thanks.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: ladyofthemansion on 06 December 2019, 11:27:25 pm
Are you happy to give us your ID?
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: GG on 08 December 2019, 05:49:45 pm
Hi Marianne,
I cant see disabled people myself but as you are a charity that does not charge escorts to advertise not some company out to make money I do give them the link for your website and i also post a link to TLC on my website. (btw is it the same domain or dio i need to edit the link) I think it's a great idea and saves them having to go through loads of knockbacks until they get a yes. It will also help the people who are scared to contact a provider in case their disability puts them off x
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Dani_girl on 12 December 2019, 02:04:18 pm
Hi Marianne,
I cant see disabled people myself but as you are a charity that does not charge escorts to advertise not some company out to make money I do give them the link for your website and i also post a link to TLC on my website. (btw is it the same domain or dio i need to edit the link) I think it's a great idea and saves them having to go through loads of knockbacks until they get a yes. It will also help the people who are scared to contact a provider in case their disability puts them off x

I agree with this, it can't be a bad idea. Besides AW asks for IDs in the most humiliating manner, at least these guys are well intended.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: regieeee on 14 December 2019, 07:52:35 pm
The problem is, women (us) are in a far more vulnerable position,
e.g. risks of all social and moral punishments from all directions ,
"once bitten..." applies. 
Some women have chronic illnesses/hidden disabilities, too.

It's really sad to see a site like this demands ID.

We don't even know who these punters are, would they be verified, too?
 ???
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: saltysweet on 15 December 2019, 08:04:07 pm
Good point Reg! Why not?
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: regieeee on 16 December 2019, 10:04:12 am
 :)
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: ladyofthemansion on 16 December 2019, 10:10:01 am
Have had a look and I’m liking the site but not the ID bit unless you do it with the service seekers too.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: GG on 17 December 2019, 04:47:33 am
Adultwork ask for ID so it isn't a new thing & hopefully, TLC treat SW'ers a lot better. Just a question but how do you know these guys are actually disabled and not just getting off on some fetish. Do they have to give evidence of their disability?
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: ladyofthemansion on 17 December 2019, 11:59:44 am
Adultwork ask for ID so it isn't a new thing & hopefully, TLC treat SW'ers a lot better. Just a question but how do you know these guys are actually disabled and not just getting off on some fetish. Do they have to give evidence of their disability?

Good point!!
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Celine_J on 31 December 2019, 11:55:29 am
Hey,

I would love to join TLC but do you need experience working with people with disabilities?

Can someone let me no please thanks
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Mirror on 31 December 2019, 01:41:50 pm
Hey,

I would love to join TLC but do you need experience working with people with disabilities?

Can someone let me no please thanks

I think there's a section in which you can write about any experience, or just be prepared to accept disabled clients.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 14 September 2020, 11:07:35 am
Hi all

Just another reminder that there is a charity that runs a page aimed at disabled clients at https://tlc-trust.org.uk/

We do screen providers due to the vulnerability of some of the clients though this information is kept totally confidential.

I'm going to set up a thread [now in Q&A] where some of the existing providers might like to chat and anyone interested in joining might ask questions.

We also have a members area so that we can verify that (some) of the people who find you through the page are genuine clients.

Thanks, M
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: amy on 14 September 2020, 11:57:54 am
If people want to ask questions about advertising on the site, they can ask them here :).
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:13:13 pm
I used to be on the old TLC website not sure why you care about seeing peoples IDs really...

We advertise that we have screened our providers to make it safer for disabled people, many of whom are more vulnerable - it's a deterrent to predators as they would not be willing to show us their ID.

If you think about it, you have to be police checked to work as a carer for people so an ID check is nothing really.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:15:32 pm
What a strange situation. Surely anybody disabled could either hire an escort themselves or there carer. That is what usually happens when i have seen somebody with a disabilty. But saying that i would only take a booking direct from the client not his help as i have had them contact me before but that is not the set up for me with discretion.

The TLC site has been running for about 30 years. Many providers don't want to see disabled people and many disabled people don't like having to ask that as the first question and get turned down repeatedly.

It is part of a bigger charity run for and by disabled people and they felt it was something they could benefit them.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:19:00 pm
Are you happy to give us your ID?

My ID is logged within the system yes. But why should you need to see it?

We need to offer some reassurance to clients but mainly parents/carers/social workers etc that some screening has taken place. Some of these clients are immensely vulnerable  and the charity has heard numerous stories of clients being abused in a variety of ways. Asking for ID puts the predators off.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:20:30 pm
Hi Marianne,
I cant see disabled people myself but as you are a charity that does not charge escorts to advertise not some company out to make money I do give them the link for your website and i also post a link to TLC on my website. (btw is it the same domain or dio i need to edit the link) I think it's a great idea and saves them having to go through loads of knockbacks until they get a yes. It will also help the people who are scared to contact a provider in case their disability puts them off x

Thank you loads for your support and understanding attitude!

https://tlc-trust.org.uk/
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:22:05 pm
I agree with this, it can't be a bad idea. Besides AW asks for IDs in the most humiliating manner, at least these guys are well intended.

Thanks - they do so to cover their arses re legalilty. We do it to put of predators and ensure people's safety.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:23:54 pm
The problem is, women (us) are in a far more vulnerable position,
e.g. risks of all social and moral punishments from all directions ,
"once bitten..." applies. 
Some women have chronic illnesses/hidden disabilities, too.

It's really sad to see a site like this demands ID.

We don't even know who these punters are, would they be verified, too?
 ???

There is an option for client membership with ID and proof of disability - the idea being that you, the provider can make it a requirement that a prospective client join before they can book you so yes - we are trying to make this two sided.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Marianne on 18 September 2020, 07:29:25 pm
Hey,

I would love to join TLC but do you need experience working with people with disabilities?

Can someone let me no please thanks

We do prefer it yes as it's a whole different skill set. Can you suck dick round a cathater? - Can you cope with disfigurement? Incontinence? Do you have any experience of using a wheelchair or a hoist? What if your client needs the toilet during a booking and their carer isnt' there - can you hoist them from the bed, into a chair, get them to the toilet and back again? Even dressing and undressing people with muscle spacicity can be really hard work.

The diversity of disabilities means that if you have little to no understanding of the complexity of the possible needs then not really. I mean, you can't get a job as a carer without training and although we are not there as carers, in some situations, care jobs occur whether you planned them to or not.
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Beverlee on 26 October 2020, 12:38:39 pm
Hello
I am a non disabled sex provider/surrogate partner/enabler working exclusively with people with disability through the TLC Trust website. I am also a trained psychosexual somatics practioner which informs how I work with clients. I also have 1 NHS client who gets my service on the NHS.  I find my work extremely rewarding but oftentimes intense and isolating and could do with some peer support, more training and some legal protection.  I am currently in dialogue with several disability & sex organisations about putting these in place. Would anyone else be interested this?
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Braziliana on 26 October 2020, 02:29:13 pm
...Can you suck dick round a cathater?...
Loving the very formal and professional language (not to mention the orthographic accuracy) - nothing like it for credibility...

...What if your client needs the toilet during a booking and their carer isnt' there - can you hoist them from the bed, into a chair, get them to the toilet and back again?...
I'm up for that.  A way into a career as a care-worker for me at long last!
...Or you could require the presence, during bookings, of an appropriate party to perform these duties, should the need for them arise.
You have yourself hinted at this as a solution to the situation.
FYI, if I were a care-worker, I would perform those duties without complaint (as I did when I worked in a care home and as a home-help 26 years ago).
Title: Re: TLC - seeking providers to work with disabled clients
Post by: Cass on 26 October 2020, 10:44:50 pm
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FYI, if I were a care-worker, I would perform those duties without complaint (as I did when I worked in a care home and as a home-help 26 years ago).

I'm sure most of us would perform those duties if we were care workers, and I've known a lot of care workers to stay in the home during a booking, but not all will and it's not realistic to expect that all disabled clients will be lucky enough to have a care worker who will. I've had clients who could only see me when they had a respite carer or when their carer wasn't on because they couldn't ask them or the carer didn't approve. Help with finding a provider who has the background knowledge or understanding can be invaluable to people in that situation.

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Loving the very formal and professional language (not to mention the orthographic accuracy) - nothing like it for credibility...

If Marianne was running a care agency I'd agree, but she's not. It's a directory for sex workers who provide services for people with disabilities so the language and example is appropriate.