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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: Fuber on 15 May 2017, 04:28:52 pm
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Hi Ladies,
I am from the world's 1st escorting app called www.Fuber.com. We are launching into the market this summer and hope to shake it up by offering a better, safer place to play.
Fuber.com is a beautifully designed, easy to use web app for mobile and desktop. Create your profile, upload pictures and manage your diary and bookings from your phone or your computer.
Fuber.com allows escorts and clients to:
- Save time and maximise your earning potential - No more timewasting calls, texts or emails as our simple booking system manages all bookings for you in one easy to use app. You can even search clients reverse bookings based on your availability
- Earn more money - Fuber.com maximises your time whilst minimising your cost. It is free to sign up, advertise, earn money from your content and from referring other escorts and clients.
- Stay Safe - We have a strong feedback loop & some cool features to increase the safety of escorts & clients. We take your safety seriously so you can focus on the job at hand ;).
- Remain Private - No need for a second phone as everything is handled within the app and there is even a discreet mode to guard against prying eyes!
The first 1000 signups will get free Connects and access for two months.
We are also looking for brand ambassadors who should have a significant social reach or client list and a desire to grow their income. Drop Chloe a line on hello@fuber.club if this is of interest.
Thanks so much and we are looking forward to having you all on board soon.
Rachel
Fuber.com Team
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Can you please explain why this is the world's "first escorting app" when AW have had a mobile app for years?
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Hi Ladies,
I am from the world's 1st escorting app
But you just said you were from somewhere else
called [link removed]
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We are launching into the market this summer and hope to shake it up by offering a better, safer place to play.
Quantifiable how? You're going to be my safety buddy? It's better only if I am making more money on it.
[link removed] is a beautifully designed, easy to use web app for mobile and desktop. Create your profile, upload pictures and manage your diary and bookings from your phone or your computer.
Basically like the market leader which already beat you to the punch, you mean?
I would respond to the rest but it was basically "just like AW?" ad nauseam.
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Good evening Ladies,
Thank you very much for engaging with us at Fuber.com. We all agree that AW and others have been looking after our interests for a while now. However, the team at Fuber (some of whom have worked in the industry) are confident we have developed something not present in the whole industry which is easier to use, safer, more efficient and ultimately will earn you more money.
How are Fuber increasing the safety of escorts and clients?
We are developing some really cool new features which will enhance the safety of everyone involved (more to be revealed as the launch date gets nearer). We know there are many escorts out there who have been in 'sticky situations' and would welcome anything that makes working safer. If it keeps one person safer then that's all we can ask for.
Can Fuber make escorts more money?
We absolutely can make escorts more money. We are free to list, offer multiple income streams and we don't charge for 'Available Todays'. The system matches clients and escorts much more efficiently and reduces time-wasting messages and calls. We all know that "time is money". ;)
Is Fuber the world's 1st escorting app?
We believe so. Some competitors have web apps that are substandard and were not built with mobile in mind. We have built mobile first; so yes we are the first true escorting app:)
Once again, thank you ladies for getting in touch, we look forward to hearing from you all further and engaging in conversations to make the industry better.
Rach
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Well fuber thats original. I assume using uber because of is success and just putting a f in front of it so it kind of abbreviated as fuck uber? Am I right??? This is funny.
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Well fuber thats original. I assume using uber because of is success and just putting a f in front of it so it kind of abbreviated as fuck uber? Am I right??? This is funny.
LOL!!! Fuber?!!!
What is next? Fapazon? Feasyjet? Fuckdonalds?
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There's a lot of waffle here but no actual information as far as I can see - I still can't tell whether this is an advertising platform, a communications tool or yet another tired old attempt at telling us we're all in terrible danger all the time and only they can save us (and see also):
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=35920.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=35920.0)
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=29359.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=29359.0)
http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=29374.0 (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=29374.0)
As for managing my diary, profile and bookings from my phone and computer I've been doing exactly that for almost ten years already, and I was pretty late to the party? Am I missing something ???
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Excuse me but this looks more like F(ony)uber rather than F(uck)uber.
- Save time and maximise earning potential - how does the system manage bookings? Managing bookings is mostly a manual process, which requires a lot of user input. How is this different than AW, my phone, a piece of paper?
- Earn more money - Don't see this happening unless the sevice builds up a large client base. Which will not be the case for months or years to compete with something like AW.
- Stay safe - the website doesn't even use an encrypted web protocol and the web browser warns 'connection to this site is not secure'!
- Remain private - see above! The 'no need for a second phone' argument doesn't even make sense. The website says 'All information provided will be kept confidential within the limits of use of Fuber service '! What are those limits?
The website claims that there are no fees yet the advert above promises 'free connects' and access for two months for the first 1000 signups. Meaning there will be fees down the road.
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Is your app an app in the sense that it will be downloadable from itunes and on google play for android? Or is it just a website which you're calling an app? Or is it an app that can only be installed onto jailbroken devices by directly installing the apk from somewhere other than the official app stores? I'm guessing it's not a real app since neither apple nor google will approve anything escort related for their app stores.
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LOL!!! Fuber?!!!
What is next? Fapazon? Feasyjet? Fuckdonalds?
Crapdonalds , Kenfucky , and burger ring , five guys one burger the list goes on....
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Well fuber thats original. I assume using uber because of is success and just putting a f in front of it so it kind of abbreviated as fuck uber? Am I right??? This is funny.
that's funny and made me laugh :)
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Crapdonalds , Kenfucky , and burger ring , five guys one burger the list goes on....
Hahahahaha!
I know I'm a whore but 'Fuber' associating sex workers with taxis is a tad contemptuous!
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Fuber is also like the military term 'Fubar' which means fucked up beyond all recognition.... :o
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Can you please explain why this is the world's "first escorting app" when AW have had a mobile app for years?
Great point maybe because the OP is lagging behind, who needs to get in not out of the times lol.
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Fuber is also like the military term 'Fubar' which means fucked up beyond all recognition.... :o
LMAO!
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Fuber is also like the military term 'Fubar' which means fucked up beyond all recognition.... :o
Yeah, thats what I thought of when I saw it but then I don't use taxis and I don't think we even have uber here. Not really a big improvement, mind ;D.
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Hi all,
Thanks for the continued engagement. Some fabulous word play going on. The office team have a current favourite so far, F(uck)donalds! Not sure about their cheeseburgers though!
How is Fuber different?
We have created some great features which have come out of direct feedback from current working escorts:
Just a few of the functions include:
- Real time matching ? our aim is to make meetings happen faster and easier so you get to work more efficiently. We aim to match escorts and clients in real time to avoid unnecessary messages.
- Touring is made super easy ? with the ability to set your availability across multiple locations in advance.
- Safety features - such as our confidante system where you can keep a nominated person updated on your whereabouts.
These are just a snapshot of what we have coming as we need to keep some secrets.
Is Fuber.com secure?
Our existing landing page doesn?t need an SSL certificate as we don?t have any sensitive information on it. Any registered emails are stored within a secure AWS server. However, point taken and we have added SSL certification which is now live.
How do you charge as you say the first 1000 get free connects?
Fuber does not charge for listing, advertising or for being ?available today?. We charge a small connection fee for connecting clients and escorts. However, escorts receive free connects for signing up, completing a profile, referring escorts/clients and using the system.
Is Fuber private?
Converstions within Fuber use end to end encryption (the same as whatsapp). We only store information on your last booking and future bookings.
Everything is kept private on secure servers and we never hand out your information unless required to by the law.
Why Wont I need a second phone?
The app offers complete booking management and communication with clients removing the need for a second ?work? phone.
Is Fuber on the App stores?
Not for launch. We will release details of how you can sign up close to launch.
Will Fuber?s database be enormous?
We hope so, but we know it will take a bit of time. We are confident that it is far superior to anything on the market at the current time and that our database will build quickly making it the place for escorts and clients to connect.
I appreciate we are being a bit vague about our functionality but that is because we don?t want to give too much away to our competitors however we are keen to listen to your feedback.
If you have any ideas on features you would like to see we would love to hear them. What features would you like to see on an escorting app?
Rach :)
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What features would you like to see on an escorting app?
A bit of modesty and basic knowledge from the lot pushing it would be a start.
The idea that having an app that outs you to anyone looking at your phone removes the need for a work phone is laughable. Ditto that everyone wants a 'find me x now' service. Ditto that you'll ever get a prostitution app past Apple.
We only store information on your last booking and future bookings.
"What could possibly be wrong with that?"
Good luck with trying to charge both sides for messages.
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Kudos at least for the professional response after all the slagging off and taking some feedback constructively into consideration :)
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I still can't see why we're supposed to no longer need a separate phone? If you're going to try the tack where you assign advertisers with a premium rate number instead of using our normal work numbers, punters won't phone them and why should they?
I have a perfectly good number for them to ring and make bookings without anybody getting ripped off, and I don't see why you should make money out of that happening. Plus presumably for you to direct these calls I would have to give you my personal phone number if I didn't have a work phone. Like fuck.
Are you seriously saying you plan to charge people for sending and replying to messages? What sort of messages? All that will happen is that nobody will use your site - most punters see an ad that appeals, call or text, book and turn up. There's really no need to make it complicated and every reason not to, because the sites you're competing with don't involve so much buggering about.
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Another point - I deliberately use a dumb phone for work, and a lot of punters do the same. When the new version of the old Nokia comes out, I'm buying one! I'm thus never going to use an app.
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Fuber, if you want to live up to your name and compete with an established escorting site for a share of the market you need to be able to demonstrate that you offer better service at the same or lower cost to your users.
Can you produce a comparison table (Fuber vs competition) that summarises what you do better and highlight cost benefits? Without marketing malarkey if possible.
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When is it being launched ? I'm all for new ways of advertising, think it sounds quite exciting, I do believe there are flaws and glitches in other sites, so will be interesting to see how this works.....not sure about fuber.com though :o
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I still can't see why we're supposed to no longer need a separate phone? If you're going to try the tack where you assign advertisers with a premium rate number instead of using our normal work numbers, punters won't phone them and why should they?
I have a perfectly good number for them to ring and make bookings without anybody getting ripped off, and I don't see why you should make money out of that happening. Plus presumably for you to direct these calls I would have to give you my personal phone number if I didn't have a work phone. Like fuck.
Are you seriously saying you plan to charge people for sending and replying to messages? What sort of messages? All that will happen is that nobody will use your site - most punters see an ad that appeals, call or text, book and turn up. There's really no need to make it complicated and every reason not to, because the sites you're competing with don't involve so much buggering about.
Adultwork charge for email/text alerts, maybe guys who are sick of calling 10 girls and getting no reply might like this, competition in advertising has got to be a good thing for us, same as any business, when you have competition, you impprove where you need to improve
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Adultwork charge for email/text alerts, maybe guys who are sick of calling 10 girls and getting no reply might like this, competition in advertising has got to be a good thing for us, same as any business, when you have competition, you impprove where you need to improve
I've never paid Adultwork for either of these things; they're optional and I doubt they make much this way from punters especially. I don't agree that it's up to an advertising site to organise my phone calls for me - I have a text autoresponse that tells them when to call back and other people use voicemail. I do agree that competition is a good thing, but the competition has to be up to the job and we're drowning in advertising sites already?
I note they've not bothered answering any of the questions raised, despite being online earlier this morning? I know the answers aren't terribly helpful when they ignore the points raised anyway, but the least they could do is acknowledge them.
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Good morning,
Thanks for the comments and the feedback.
Are Fuber charging for calls?
No, Fuber are not charging for calls or giving out premium rate numbers. Our aim is not to create a service that rips people off (escorts and clients). Fuber is a self-contained mobile web app. We offer an in-app msg service like whatsapp.
Our premise is that our app is so easy to use that you won?t need a second phone as you will use it for all communications. We do however appreciate that some people will still prefer to speak to clients on the phone, but conversely this is prone to abuse by timewasters.
Would a very low cost in app phone service be something you would like to see or does a superior messaging service reduce your admin (i.e time spent on calls?)
Do I Need a smart phone to take advantage of all the features?
Yes you do. A desktop version of Fuber is available for those without a smart phone.
Can we provide a comparison table?
Unfortunately, at this stage we cannot as doing so now will give our competitors too much information as to how we plan to shake up the industry and we don?t want that just before launch!
We are confident we will be the best value and most efficient service for escorts and clients. As mentioned we don?t charge for escorts to advertise or to be available today. We charge a small connection fee (reduces timewasters!), but do not charge for sending and replying to messages. Please do register your interest at (link removed - see rules) if you want free connects for the first two months.
Please keep the questions and suggestions coming and we will answer you all in turn as quickly as we can!
We are keen to know what would make your working life easier? And hopefully our tech solution can give you the answer.
Thanks
Rach
(link removed - see rules)
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Having looked at the little that's on their website, I notice this gem:
"The integrity of Fuber is driven by the Fuber community. Any users below a 3* rating will be removed."
They either really haven't thought this through or part of the business plan is using this as a reason to say 'We're kicking you off and keeping your money, thanks bye'. I'm not sure which is worse.
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Our premise is that our app is so easy to use that you won?t need a second phone as you will use it for all communications. We do however appreciate that some people will still prefer to speak to clients on the phone, but conversely this is prone to abuse by timewasters.
Would a very low cost in app phone service be something you would like to see or does a superior messaging service reduce your admin (i.e time spent on calls?)
I don't use Whatapp. From what I can gather it's basically texting but with having to fill up your phone with a load of shit. I'm fine with texting.
I think you've probably lost virtually everybody by telling them that they're supposed to agree to see punters without speaking to them first. Some of us will arrange by text, but at some point there will be a phone call or are you saying we're supposed to supply our full incall addresses this way too? Most of us don't offer final directions until we've established that the punter has actually arrived - how is not hearing somebody's voice going to help in any way with timewasters when speaking to them to hear their voice and tone is the way most of us screen? We might as well roll them out a red carpet.
Does this also mean that we don't get the punters phone number? How will we alert others if they turn out to be pathological timewasters or even dangerous without any contact details for them?
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Having looked at the little that's on their website, I notice this gem:
"The integrity of Fuber is driven by the Fuber community. Any users below a 3* rating will be removed."
They either really haven't thought this through or part of the business plan is using this as a reason to say 'We're kicking you off and keeping your money, thanks bye'. I'm not sure which is worse.
Hmmmm,..... the pimps would be making bookings in force to ensure anyone who isnt part of their cartel or agency gets kicked off the APP .... this is a NO from me now.
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Ideally a site that would benefit the girls first, then the clients, happy girls make happy clients.
A site that will block all access to persistent time wasting emailers, no showers and cancellatiions, will block reported phone pests when reported by a certain amount of service providers.
Time wasters are the biggest glitch in this industry and if there was ever a site that would block access by IP Address to these pesky time absorbing creatures
Currently all they have to do is buy another sim card or make a new email, blocking them by their IP Address so they cannot access the site again so easy would be great.
A site like this would free up more time for the girls and make it easier for genuine clients to make bookings, thats my idea of a good site anyway.
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Another point - I deliberately use a dumb phone for work, and a lot of punters do the same. When the new version of the old Nokia comes out, I'm buying one! I'm thus never going to use an app.
Those old style phones are coming back in fashion because they didn't go out of date
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Good afternoon,
Will we kick people off and keep their Connects if they drop below a certain rating?
xW5 - absolutely yes we will kick people off if they drop below a certain rating. We are trying to build a community of reputable clients and escorts.
Will we keep their connects?
Absolutely not. We are planning on shaking up the industry and part of that will be our level of integrity. We are aware this practice happens on Adultwork. Anything you earn is yours and yours alone (even if you have been bad and kicked out).
Will Fuber be hiding offshore with no one from the company to speak to?
We are a UK based limited company and we will have online live support.
How do I verify a client or give them directions if I can?t speak to them?
The idea behind Fuber is that the comms are kept within the confines of the app. The message function is very easy to use.
In terms of verifying a client, we hope the feedback loop means that you have a strong system for verification.
Re directions; with technology that?s easy. Without giving too much away, let?s just say our system allows you to keep your address discreet but also to direct your client effortlessly. All of these problems are easily solved by technology, it just seems the industry has been slow to pick it up.
How do I report a bad client if I don?t have their number?
In terms of reporting a bad client, we want to help with this and we are currently speaking to Ugly Mugs about how we can work together. We would welcome a conversation with everyone on this forum about how we can use tech to facilitate reducing bad clients.
Bad clients will be banned from this site and will not be able to create a new user account. All clients must verify themselves before connecting with escorts, so the ability for multiple accounts is massively reduced.
Will Fuber Block persistent time-wasters?
That is the important thing about Fuber. The feedback loop will filter all these people out. We aim to reduce timewasters in the industry. If a client is a phone pest and gets reported we will investigate and deal with it.
In our experience, timewasters are the biggest issue therefore we have designed many features to combat this.
The pimps will make bookings to ensure anyone who isn?t part of their cartel/agency is kicked off.
Lost Hope ? this is definitely not going to happen. We have built the ability to ensure only one user can create an account from one location. Also, all users must verify.
As mentioned above we will have support you can actually contact so any issues like this we will be straight on top of.
We have developed a number of other tools/features that mean that pimps won?t be able to use our site for anyone they control either. We are a platform for open minded independents who want to work in a safe environment.
Do you have any other suggestions of how we can reduce this activity?
Happy girls make happy clients!
Great sentiment and freeing up time is exactly what we are going to do. More time, more clients, more money.
Amy ? apologies for not responding earlier. The team were all in a meeting brain storming some of the comments that you have all raised and I left this forum open in another browser.
Amy, you have mentioned that we haven?t answered some questions raised. Please do let me know if we have missed anything and I get back to the forum as soon as possible.
Thanks
Rach
Fuber Team
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I'd like to hear more about your rating system.
A lot of very genuine, reputable Escorts actually don't suit a 'rating' system.
For example I have a lot of regulars, and enquiries from men who don't want to use an App or website, they just want to phone up and book. Some book subsequent appointments face to face, don't use any other communication method apart from asking me to check my diary whilst I am with them.
Am I right in thinking that if I didn't see many clients, or many clients from Fuber that despite being very well established I could be removed because I wouldn't have any, or many ratings on your site? And vice versa, a busy new person could amass a great rating on the basis that they only use Fuber, and see high numbers of newbies?
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Hi there
Where will you be operating from in terms of a business address and legal location, are you going to be an anonymous domain name with email and nothing else with no information about the people who are trusted behind the collection of data and the code of the app
I think you'll have a problem getting people to trust an anonymous source with their information and to allow the install an app from an unknown organisation because of the increased risks in allowing unverified apps to be installed on your phone as people would be uncertain as to the security of the app, they may have concerns that it's got flaws and vulnerabilities, apps have the ability to track users movements, and of course you have to trust the people behind the app especially if it's not open source meaning that other people can inspect the programming code to make sure that it does what it says on the tin so to speak
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Re directions; with technology that?s easy. Without giving too much away, let?s just say our system allows you to keep your address discreet but also to direct your client effortlessly. All of these problems are easily solved by technology, it just seems the industry has been slow to pick it up.
Well mine will be, yes, since I don't give it out to anybody and even punters who have visited don't get it. I talk them to my door when they arrive at my landmark and there is no other way for them to reach me - I suppose I could type out everything I say in full but that would take forever and doesn't help if they're in the wrong place or go the wrong way. On the phone that takes seconds to fix - do you seriously think a punter who may be nervous or excited and has never been to my town before will want stand in the middle of a busy street playing ping pong 'messages' when he gets lost? And you're saying that this is the 'slow' way to do it; are you familiar with the expression that starts 'if it ain't broke?'
Out of interest, will people working from hotels be required to enter their hotel.details and room number into your site? When will this be given to the punter and in what form - most of us would never text or email a room number because this means it can be shown to somebody else, which is why we only give them ovsr the phone.
Also, all users must verify.
Talk us through this, please.
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Amy ? apologies for not responding earlier. The team were all in a meeting brain storming some of the comments that you have all raised and I left this forum open in another browser.
Having just sat down to check my emails, I see that despite this busy meeting one of you found the time to go onto my website, find my email address (which is nothing to do with SAAFE) and send me a lengthy email at 1019 this morning touting your wares and whiffling on about this forum. How fucking dare you? In what universe is pestering forum staff and/or members off this board an acceptable way to behave? If you want to ask the SAAFE administration team something, you use the SAAFE admin email address as instructed in the advertising rules. Although I strongly suggest you don't do that today.
Everybody else take note that the time they claim not to have had to respond to your posts was in fact being spent sending me the following:
Good Morning Amy, I noticed you are an admin on SAAFE. I am the Rachel who is posting on the 'Spamming in the Lion's Den' under the username Fuber. As you have seen we are coming to market with a new product soon with the goal of helping the lives of working escorts.
My question is; is it possible to post an anonymous survey for some of the escorts to take asking some general industry questions such as what features would you like to see, what do you consider to be the biggest hurdle in the life of an escort etc?
We would obviously post it under the Fuber Username but we wouldn't be advertising, it would just be a research and information exercise which is fully anonymous with no branding.
It would help us develop further features based on feedback in a non biased environment.
What do you think?
Thanks
Rach
Team Fuber
The answer, incidentally, is no. The people posting here are telling you what they think already and expecting them to waste even more of their time doing your halfarsed market research for free when there are already dozens of threads (http://www.saafe.info/main/index.php?topic=17949.0) asking and answering exactly the same thing already on the board is, put politely, optimistic.
In fact given the above, I'd be extremely careful what you post full stop. And consider yourself lucky that 'tech' has yet to advance enough to allow physical contact via a laptop.
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"How do I verify a client or give them directions if I can�t speak to them?
The idea behind Fuber is that the comms are kept within the confines of the app. The message function is very easy to use.
In terms of verifying a client, we hope the feedback loop means that you have a strong system for verification.
Re directions; with technology that�s easy. Without giving too much away, let�s just say our system allows you to keep your address discreet but also to direct your client effortlessly. All of these problems are easily solved by technology, it just seems the industry has been slow to pick it up."
I never, ever put my full address in writing, in any format. I give clients the post code and suggestion of where to park, get dropped off, walk to etc., then they need to call me to get my door number.
Likewise, I'm never going to send complete strangers my passport details etc. to verify.
I feel your app may - may - work for a certain type of escort/punter (i.e. those who aren't bothered about anonymity and do everything by text), but certainly it's no good for me or how I work.
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Good evening,
Amy, apologies for contacting you through your personal email address. I was keen to ?ask permission? from an admin and as you have a link to your profile at the bottom I thought who better to ask? Apologies for over stepping the mark. What we are trying to do during this exercise is garner information to make Fuber better whilst not breaking any forum rules. We thought a survey would be a good way to collect data that could be used to improve the service we are developing for the industry, but are happy to keep it within the forum if you think that is best.
How does the booking and directions work?
Amy and Kay - Re your questions about the booking process ref location, directions etc. We can not give out any more details, but rest assured the majority of your concerns are taken care of in the app.
You will not be required to give out you full address. We know discretion is important and we want to help facilitate that.
We have also called a meeting tomorrow to discuss an issue you raised to brainstorm this.
How does your rating work?
Our rating system works by the escort and the client rating each other after a booking.
It is not about the number of ratings you have, it is about not having bad ratings. So if you see a client outside of Fuber, this will not count against you as there will not be a rating. Within Fuber you are not penalised for not having lots of good ratings, but you are penalised for having bad ratings. We hope this will help reduce time wasters.
However due to Fuber being a full bookings and diary management system you may want to encourage them to book you through Fuber as then you will not have to spend time explaining when you are free.
Are you UK Based? Will you be on an anonymous domain?
Lucia88, thanks for engaging with us. We are a UK based Ltd company with UK based support staff who will be online during working hours to support you via live support.
Our domains will be hosted on AWS (Amazon Web Services) when we launch.
Does the App need to be installed?
Fuber is a web app therefore it is not installing anything on your phone. You can ?bookmark? the mobile homepage so when you click the bookmark on your phone it will open the mobile app. We do not store anything on your phone.
Is there a strong verification system?
Kay ? yes there is. We verify everyone personally. We record their IP addresses to check they have not had multiple accounts or accounts that have been blocked.
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Bad clients will be banned from this site and will not be able to create a new user account. All clients must verify themselves before connecting with escorts, so the ability for multiple accounts is massively reduced.
Did you say you have girls from the industry ? whats their view on this ? I cant see many clients verifying their details on an escort app
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I think this app will be good for the foreign girls with limited English, I dont think it will suit me, I need to hear a voice before I accept a booking, I also run a phone number search, I would not feel comfortable with an app to make a booking for a person I havent spoken to and no number to check on. Good luck though guys, hope it works out
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I think this app will be good for the foreign girls with limited English, I dont think it will suit me, I need to hear a voice before I accept a booking, I also run a phone number search, I would not feel comfortable with an app to make a booking for a person I havent spoken to and no number to check on. Good luck though guys, hope it works out
Yeah I totally agree, although I'm relatively new to working (Less than six months now but working towards full time with my first major tour of the UK soon) I seem to do probably 95% of my verification just on the sound of the client, so yeah that would be totally important, feedback can always be faked, think of how many fakes are on ebay
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Amy, apologies for contacting you through your personal email address. I was keen to ?ask permission? from an admin and as you have a link to your profile at the bottom I thought who better to ask? Apologies for over stepping the mark. What we are trying to do during this exercise is garner information to make Fuber better whilst not breaking any forum rules. We thought a survey would be a good way to collect data that could be used to improve the service we are developing for the industry, but are happy to keep it within the forum if you think that is best.
If you want to ask a SAAFE admin something about the SAAFE forum, you email the SAAFE admin address as found on the main SAAFE site, as instructed by the SAAFE advertising rules which are at the top of this board. I'm literally staggered that you thought this was acceptable.
Amy and Kay - Re your questions about the booking process ref location, directions etc. We can not give out any more details, but rest assured the majority of your concerns are taken care of in the app.
What exactly is the point of us asking questions when you won't answer any of them? You've ignored my point about hotels and I still don't believe for a second that there's some mystical way I can direct punters to my flat without speaking to them or giving out my location in a way that it could be recognised (note I didn't say my address because the entrance to my flat doesn't have one) whether they get lost or not.
To quote my learned colleague:
The other thought is if you tell us more about what this service is, you'll save a lot of time (and quite possibly money).
If it's something that's so secret that it can't be discussed, that spells doom in itself - if it's that great but easy to take the idea and run with it, someone like AW with a lot more resources (computing, users, money) will quickly duplicate it and crush you. If it's that great, but not easy to do, telling us will just build demand for it.
As it is, the suspicion will be that you're thinking that everyone likes tea and chocolate, so the world needs a chocolate teapot.
As for IP verification, if that's the best you can come up with I suggest you start working on a Plan B. Even I know how to hide/change my IP address.
We have also called a meeting tomorrow to discuss an issue you raised to brainstorm this.
Whose brain will you be using?
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I'm thinking perhaps the app pinpoints the users location, including that of the SP they are visiting, and directs them in like a sat nav?
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If you want to ask a SAAFE admin something about the SAAFE forum, you email the SAAFE admin address as found on the main SAAFE site, as instructed by the SAAFE advertising rules which are at the top of this board. I'm literally staggered that you thought this was acceptable.
What exactly is the point of us asking questions when you won't answer any of them? You've ignored my point about hotels and I still don't believe for a second that there's some mystical way I can direct punters to my flat without speaking to them or giving out my location in a way that it could be recognised (note I didn't say my address because the entrance to my flat doesn't have one) whether they get lost or not.
To quote my learned colleague:
As for IP verification, if that's the best you can come up with I suggest you start working on a Plan B. Even I know how to hide/change my IP address.
Whose brain will you be using?
All what I was thinking ( and no doubt most others)
And your last comment Amy, priceless
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Fuber is a web app therefore it is not installing anything on your phone. You can ?bookmark? the mobile homepage so when you click the bookmark on your phone it will open the mobile app. We do not store anything on your phone.
So the "world's first escorting app" isn't an app, it's a website with a responsive mobile version ::)
Do you REALLY think punters are going to verify their identity with an unknown website just so they can pay to use your website to send messages to escorts? Why the fuck would anyone do that when they can just pick up their phone and contact an escort directly and not worry about sending off their passport into the ether, possibly to come back to bite them in the arse in two years? Did we learn nothing from the Ashley Madison debacle?
You said your site team included people from "within the industry" - is this pimps? I find it hard to believe you've got any indie sex workers on board who would possibly think this thing has legs.
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Another point is that Fuber may be in risk of trademark infringement (by guess whom!) and may end up short-lived after all.
Naming a new product, service etc. by adding one letter to an existing trademark can be considered illegal.
Fuber, have you checked whether your name is legal by trade mark law?
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I'm thinking perhaps the app pinpoints the users location, including that of the SP they are visiting, and directs them in like a sat nav?
Which would be an absolute nightmare for me...
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I'm wondering how much they paid for fuber.com - all the five letter combinations of letters, never mind actual words, were registered long ago.
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I wonder if www.chocolateteapot.co.uk is taken? I like that one ;D
I 've just checked and it's available for ?695 ;D
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Good morning,
Thanks guys for all the responses, good and bad. There are a few more questions that we wanted to address. Once again if we have missed anythign just let us know.
Will people working from hotels be required to enter their hotel details and room number to our site?
Amy, apologies for missing this question. There have been a lot of questions! You will not be required to give out your address in advance.
At Fuber; we understand discretion and privacy are important to independent escorts and clients. We aim to keep you safe and discreet, away from prying eyes.
Don?t all girls use phone calls to verify?
Lucia88, Amy, A lot of comments have mentioned that a phone call is used to verify clients. We hope the Fuber verification and rating system will remove the need for this as Fuber?s functionality will weed out timewasters. We also believe the app has features that will provide a more streamlined and easier way to make bookings without needing a call.
However we keep hearing this feedback so are discussing internally.
Why the secrecy around the features and costs?
The Fuber team think we have developed the best website for independent escorts in this space and we need to keep some secrets around the functionality. We do think that some competition in this industry can only be a good thing for escorts and clients. In regards to AW crushing us we believe that if everyone with a new idea was scared of the incumbent we would live in a world full of Mcdonalds and Walmart surely? Please watch this space.
Do punters need to verify themselves?
No. Discretion and privacy are important to us.
Does our site team contain pimps?
VoluptuousCurves, Thanks for engaging. Categorically no. We contain some experienced industry members and some techies. Fuber is not pimps and appropriate measures are in place to ensure that no one can be exploited on our site.
We want Fuber to be the best website for free willed independent escorts in London to have fun in a safe environment. Escorting is fun and we want to simplify the lives of escorts and clients.
Are we legal by trade mark law?
We appreciate our name is familiar to a small mini cab service that some of you may of heard of. We are not trying to be linked to them and our service is not similar to theirs.
The service is not meant to be escorts via mini cab. Fuber is a high-quality matching service for independent escorts and clients and we have applied for the trademark in the relevant category (which isn?t mini cabs).
Re trademark law, we will not bore the forum with trademark law, but we are not infringing.
How much is the service, how much are connects?
We are not trying to avoid this question. We can?t answer it for two reasons;
1. We are trying to keep some things for launch and the way the platform works is quite unique.
2. The main reason is we do not 100% know as we are finalising the cost of the Connects.
Currently independent escorts have 3 main options;
a. Traditional escort advertising sites such as VivaStreet who charge a fee per ad or per month,
b. Own website - costs vary, but requires a fair bit of admin SEO, server maintenance etc.
c. AW ? costs vary depending on how you use their service.
All 3 of these options have positive and negatives and the aim of Fuber is to address these.
Fuber's aim is to be the best value, most efficient matching service for independent escorts and clients. We have built something that we believe is unique and matches our aim. We are taking the feedback on board and this will link into further developments pre-launch so please give us feedback on what you want to see.
For launch, the service will be free for a period for the first 1000 sign ups so please visit out landing page and register.
That is it for now. We will check back later to see if there are any further questions or comments.
Rach
Fuber Team
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Don?t all girls use phone calls to verify?
Lucia88, Amy, A lot of comments have mentioned that a phone call is used to verify clients. We hope the Fuber verification and rating system will remove the need for this
NOTHING will remove OUR REQUIREMENT to speak to clients before inviting them to our private space, least of all an app.
as Fuber?s functionality will weed out timewasters. We also believe the app has features that will provide a more streamlined and easier way to make bookings without needing a call.
Clearly you fail to comprehend this vital part of the booking process.
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I really don't think this phasing out of phone calls idea you have is convincing. Phone calls are useful for a number of reasons: gauging if they are respectful and not drunk/under the influence of drugs, screenable by searching here and on Ugly Mugs, allows for quick and immediate communication if they are lost/getting late etc. Phone calls are also the quickest way to get a booking in - when I'm working I'm usually doing other stuff so emails and messages don't always get read quickly - a phone call is the best way to get hold of someone.
In terms of only relying on feedback - I think we've learned that feedback isn't the be all and end all of whether a client is dodgy or not. We've seen clients with great feedback who turn nasty, the lesson being that we can't always rely on it and need to personally judge whether we think someone is worth seeing or not (which is where the phone calls come in).
I doubt that clients would be willing to pay a connection fee when they can easily search and call someone for free as it is. Right now, arranging to see an escort is free and the only thing they have to pay is our booking fee. Why would they want to start paying for the actual booking process itself?
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NOTHING will remove OUR REQUIREMENT to speak to clients before inviting them to our private space, least of all an app.
Clearly you fail to comprehend this vital part of the booking process.
It's just not sinking in, is it? They're also confusing 'verifying' with 'screening', which isn't helping. Plus all the points the Lucie has made above and which will doubtless be ignored too.
I think they mean well but their core premise is based on false assumptions, those being that a) all prossies are the same, accept or turn away punters for the same reasons and therefore screen the same way (which would be appropriate if we were selling something like a car cleaning or gardening service) and also b) that everybody using these sorts of 'feedback' systems is going to be honest, which of course they're not.
On the first one (and again to continue what Lucie's mentioned) I'll point out that I turn away many punters regardless of their AW feedback because I have no interest in what some random stranger (who has a vested interested in getting a positive feedback themselves) thinks and it certainly isn't going to decide who I accept a booking from. But we all do that, because different things trigger different responses in different people.
What I will mention (because it surprised even me) is that in the last couple of years or so I can remember two punters I insta-blocked (on the basis of horrendous communications they sent me), who had not only seen but had positive feedback from women I know and trust - three in total and two of them people I've met and know well. They weren't lying when they left the feedback, and I'm not lying when I say I would rather set myself on fire than see either of the punters concerned because I found them both indescribably annoying and in one case the most punchable twat I think I've ever come across.
My point is that the only people who know how to screen for us, is us. You can't do it and I don't need you to try - what I want is an advertising site that allows me to supply punters with all the information they need to quickly and efficiently contact me, book and turn up. Dealing with timewasters and so on is my job, and I'm more than capable of doing it.
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It's just not sinking in, is it? They're also confusing 'verifying' with 'screening', which isn't helping. Plus all the points the Lucie has made above and which will doubtless be ignored too.
I think they mean well but their core premise is based on false assumptions, those being that a) all prossies are the same, accept or turn away punters for the same reasons and therefore screen the same way (which would be appropriate if we were selling something like a car cleaning or gardening service) and also b) that everybody using these sorts of 'feedback' systems is going to be honest, which of course they're not.
On the first one (and again to continue what Lucie's mentioned) I'll point out that I turn away many punters regardless of their AW feedback because I have no interest in what some random stranger (who has a vested interested in getting a positive feedback themselves) thinks and it certainly isn't going to decide who I accept a booking from. But we all do that, because different things trigger different responses in different people.
What I will mention (because it surprised even me) is that in the last couple of years or so I can remember two punters I insta-blocked (on the basis of horrendous communications they sent me), who had not only seen but had positive feedback from women I know and trust - three in total and two of them people I've met and know well. They weren't lying when they left the feedback, and I'm not lying when I say I would rather set myself on fire than see either of the punters concerned because I found them both indescribably annoying and in one case the most punchable twat I think I've ever come across.
My point is that the only people who know how to screen for us, is us. You can't do it and I don't need you to try - what I want is an advertising site that allows me to supply punters with all the information they need to quickly and efficiently contact me, book and turn up. Dealing with timewasters and so on is my job, and I'm more than capable of doing it.
And the known fact that one punter can behave in different ways, with different women. I've also come across a few ladies who really struggle with difficult behaviour because they think they have to put up with it, and didn't utter a squeak until I made contact with them.
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Hi guys, it's indeed an interesting concept, I note with interest that there's a team over in German/Berlin that describe their similar app "The Uber of Escort Apps" which they've successfully luanched and are already developing a UK version of App at the moment and there's a similar one in Australia so maybe this idea has got some traction, and lets not forget to mention Tinder and Grindr (Not sure how its spelt) which is quite popular so it seems Apps do have a place in the industry and I think I remember reading that Tinder used to feature girls working on their but they get banned I think, are you guys at all connected to the German company at all by any chance? The press seem to like the idea of "Uber for Escorts" as that's how they refer to the app that's in use in Australia as well, additionally the german team say it's not technically an app and am I correct in thinking that this is the same with yourselves?
Maybe all you need to do is create a clone of Tinder and adjust it and repurpose it/market it for escort dating, as I believe escorts did use it, which thus proves that it is to some extent useful to some. If anybodies ever used tinder for escorting maybe they could tell you if it's suitable or not
It's an interesting concept, if there's anyway you could take on board what's been said on this thread and incorporate it into your app then it could be really interesting! Maybe we're talking to the next app phenomenon and we are all part of it in our own little way!!! :)
My take away from this thread if I were you would be to find girls who have used Tinder for finding clients, they do exist I know this as fact, and ask them what they liked about it, what would they like to see improved, I'd take everything that's been mentioned here and try to somehow incorporate it into your app, the key thing is to listen to the people who'd use it and remember the other takeaway that is anonymity, registering for a dating app is not the same as registering for an escort app
I also want to applaud you guys for coming to the Lions Den and for remaining professional, courteous, it's no small thing to put your brand name on here, as forever more every little reply, point can be scrutinised for ever more on google which never forgets (Unfortunately sometimes)
When are you thinking of launching it?
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I can only echo the previous posters. Firstly, one person's dream client is another's nightmare. Secondly, verification is not the same as screening. Thirdly, escorts may be intimidated from leaving negative feedback as they don't wish to receive it themselves.
Many of us are fussy, older, independent women who don't feel obliged to give a blow job to anyone who can manage a couple of clicks on an app.
I don't really understand why you're finding it so difficult to grasp the concept that a phone call is many people's main method of screening - and that it's for clients' sake as well as ours.
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It's an interesting concept, if there's anyway you could take on board what's been said on this thread and incorporate it into your app then it could be really interesting!
What, like allowing us to advertise our phone numbers and website links on their site?
Radical.
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Hi guys, it's indeed an interesting concept, I note with interest that there's a team over in German/Berlin that describe their similar app "The Uber of Escort Apps" which they've successfully luanched and are already developing a UK version of App at the moment and there's a similar one in Australia so maybe this idea has got some traction, and lets not forget to mention Tinder and Grindr (Not sure how its spelt) which is quite popular so it seems Apps do have a place in the industry and I think I remember reading that Tinder used to feature girls working on their but they get banned I think, are you guys at all connected to the German company at all by any chance? The press seem to like the idea of "Uber for Escorts" as that's how they refer to the app that's in use in Australia as well, additionally the german team say it's not technically an app and am I correct in thinking that this is the same with yourselves?
Maybe all you need to do is create a clone of Tinder and adjust it and repurpose it/market it for escort dating, as I believe escorts did use it, which thus proves that it is to some extent useful to some. If anybodies ever used tinder for escorting maybe they could tell you if it's suitable or not
It's an interesting concept, if there's anyway you could take on board what's been said on this thread and incorporate it into your app then it could be really interesting! Maybe we're talking to the next app phenomenon and we are all part of it in our own little way!!! :)
My take away from this thread if I were you would be to find girls who have used Tinder for finding clients, they do exist I know this as fact, and ask them what they liked about it, what would they like to see improved, I'd take everything that's been mentioned here and try to somehow incorporate it into your app, the key thing is to listen to the people who'd use it and remember the other takeaway that is anonymity, registering for a dating app is not the same as registering for an escort app
I also want to applaud you guys for coming to the Lions Den and for remaining professional, courteous, it's no small thing to put your brand name on here, as forever more every little reply, point can be scrutinised for ever more on google which never forgets (Unfortunately sometimes)
When are you thinking of launching it?
Do you work for Fuber?
Sounds like it as you are the only one here thinking this bollocks can work.
All they are doing is turning something very simple into something complicated, long winded, dangerous for us and profitable for THEM.
Punters wont verify and sensible safety conscious escorts will ALWAYS want to speak to punters before booking them.
Too many people out there in internet land trying to make a quick buck off the sweat of escorts, selling silliness and telling us how to work better/safer/more profitable and even though they ALL say they are run by escorts I bet they have never fucked for cash, obvious because they don't have the foggiest idea how we work or what is important to us when booking a sex hungry stranger into our homes and hotel rooms, frankly I find them all insulting..
My best safety app is ME not a stupid, complicated, unworkable app with a stupid name.
Hope I've made my feelings clear.
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Is there a strong verification system?
Kay ? yes there is. We verify everyone personally. We record their IP addresses to check they have not had multiple accounts or accounts that have been blocked.
Do punters need to verify themselves?
No. Discretion and privacy are important to us.
Ah. So "everyone" only includes the escorts who will be making you the money then?
Sooo... exactly like AW
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Spoke to most of my clients about this app this week, every single one said they would never verify on an escort app
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I thought you said you had women from the industry on board, did they work in parlours ?
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Do you work for Fuber?
Sounds like it as you are the only one here thinking this bollocks can work.
Nope ;D never even heard of them before now, didn't know about these escort apps until I just looked them up, but I've heard of Grinder, whatsapp, kik, and the like and the trend seems to be going mobile
I could see an anonymous version of tinder working with feedback in the same way they've got on AW but with the ability to have their phone number as on AW, I could see that possibly working but then again what do I know as I barely even know how to use email on my smart phone and have only ever used whatsapp
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I thought you said you had women from the industry on board, did they work in parlours ?
They think we'll see any random man/drunk/coke head/axe murderer walking in off the street with no screening just like the parlours do.
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They think we'll see any random man/drunk/coke head/axe murderer walking in off the street with no screening just like the parlours do.
Thats what makes me think it could be ex parlour ladies, I cant see independants thinking this app would work. Iwould love more advertising avenues, I just dont think this particular app is going to go down well with clients or girls
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Thats what makes me think it could be ex parlour ladies, I cant see independants thinking this app would work. Iwould love more advertising avenues, I just dont think this particular app is going to go down well with clients or girls
Realistically, all that would happen if anybody did use it is that Mr Punter would send a message to the effect of 'I'd like to book, do you have a contact number?' whereupon Ms Prossie would send one back with '01234567890' is my number, please call to book'. The rest would then unfold in (a short amount of) real time, just as it does now, so what on earth is the point of the first part?
I'm wondering if they plan to filter message content in order to prevent people doing this - people will just have just have to type in 'Zero Seven Seven Five Two' etc to get round it and it'll take forever. Or back on Planet Earth, they'll just find a site with phone numbers on it.
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Good afternoon,
Thanks for all the feedback and the comments. Although not always easy to read they are proving invaluable. Please keep them coming.
Some further questions from you all have been extracted and here are our answers.
Will our rating system work and how can the reviews left be trusted?
Our rating system works with the escort and client giving each other a star rating after a booking is made. There is the option to write a description if they so wish. You do not see the other parties feedback until you have posted your feedback.
Fuber does not penalise you for not having lots of good ratings; we appreciate some people will just use the app occasionally or see regulars outside of the app (although our booking management system is very simple to use).
What Fuber does do is penalise those who get bad ratings. The rating system is in place to weed out timewasters and bad clients/escorts and ensure we have only the best independent escorts on Fuber.
If you do not agree with a rating, you can contact the customer service team (available online during office hours) who will investigate the matter.
Does Fuber allow me to supply clients with all the information they need quickly and efficiently to contact me, book and turn up?
Amy, Thanks for the feedback. Fuber is a fully streamlined system in that it does exactly as you are asking. It supplies clients with all the information to make a quick decision about whether to book you and how to go about meeting you.
Is Fuber connected with the German App?
Lucia88, thanks for the question. No we are not associated with ze Germans. The team are 100% prime British.
Is Fuber technically an App?
Lucia88, Fuber is a mobile web app first with a sister desktop version being launched along-side. This means you do not need to download anything to your phone ensuring maximum discretion.
When is Fuber Launching?
Lucia88, we will be launching this summer. We are in the final stages of testing and are adding some further functionality based on the feedback from these forums.
Will Fuber incorporate calls into the service?
Amy, After listening to your feedback comments we are now discussing how we can add a call feature into the app. We appreciate that some escorts will not just want to rely on a user?s profile and may require a further layer of screening. So question for all of you who like the dog and bone (phone for non cockneys).
QUESTION: Assuming you would like to screen a client via phone would you like to do it by;
- Providing your number?
- Ability to call within the app for a nominal fee (i.e. a few pence per minute) thus removing the need for a second phone and screening your real number?
- Ability to receive calls within the app for a premium fee which is charged to the client and you receive the money also screening your real number?
- Another solution?
Do Clients need to verify?
Losthope, yes, sorry for this confusion; clients do need to verify, but not in the same way as escorts.
For escorts we are verifying that they are of age, of free will and their pictures are real.
For clients are use different verification methods to check they are not time wasters, have not been kicked off the site before (IP addresses) and are of age. We will also strongly encourage clients to create a profile with discreet pictures and a description, but as you will appreciate many clients require high levels of discretion and privacy (especially the ones we are hoping to attract). The feedback loop will further reinforce this.
Does any of our team work in parlours?
Losthope, no they do not.
Thanks again everyone. You obviously want to be able to phone clients and there is a way to do it without revealing your phone number. We are really interested in making this happen but would appreciate your feedback further as to the privacy issues surrounding this.
Any further questions please let me know.
Have a great sunny weekend.
Rach
Team Fuber
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Dear Holy Christ and all the apostles we DON'T want to phone punters. THEY want to phone US.
Is anybody else starting to think this is a wind up? We've had folk posting in this section over the years who could give a yoghurt a run for its money when it comes to industry knowledge, not to mention the sort of normal common sense and awareness that stops most adults getting run over every time we leave the house, but this is like trying to explain the Large Hadron Collider to a shower curtain. Over and over again.
I could start on all the newly posted crap above, but you know, my time is worth more than this. Everybody else fill your boots.
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Amy, once again thanks for the feedback.
Two members of our team are former escorts and we are on here asking for feedback as to how we can improve the offering that is coming to market.
We originally thought that we could use technology to remove the need to have a phone call. After much discussion above we appreciate the desire for phone calls alongside the tech to facilitate the human element of screening. This is why in the post above we asked the following question:-
Will Fuber incorporate calls into the service?
Amy, After listening to your feedback comments we are now discussing how we can add a call feature into the app. We appreciate that some escorts will not just want to rely on a user?s profile and may require a further layer of screening. So question for all of you who like the dog and bone (phone for non cockneys).
QUESTION: Assuming you would like to screen a client via phone would you like to do it by;
- Providing your number?
- Ability to call within the app for a nominal fee (i.e. a few pence per minute) thus removing the need for a second phone and screening your real number?
- Ability to receive calls within the app for a premium fee which is charged to the client and you receive the money also keeping your real number discreet?
- Another solution?
Therefore maybe the solution is above or you see another but we are listening and adapting as we go. Many escorts have asked for a way to screen clients based on calls. This is what we are looking to provide.
Thanks again, appreciate this may not be for everyone but we still feel Fuber can be the best solution for independent escorts in the UK.
Rach
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"QUESTION: Assuming you would like to screen a client via phone would you like to do it by;
- Providing your number?
- Ability to call within the app for a nominal fee (i.e. a few pence per minute) thus removing the need for a second phone and screening your real number?
- Ability to receive calls within the app for a premium fee which is charged to the client and you receive the money also screening your real number?
- Another solution?"
There's this bizarre solution, which is displaying your number on a website, and people call you - often paying very little thanks to their mobile phone tariff. Modern technology, eh?!
Do you honestly think an escort would have just one phone, for personal and work stuff combined? ???
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"QUESTION: Assuming you would like to screen a client via phone would you like to do it by;
- Providing your number?
- Ability to call within the app for a nominal fee (i.e. a few pence per minute) thus removing the need for a second phone and screening your real number?
- Ability to receive calls within the app for a premium fee which is charged to the client and you receive the money also screening your real number?
- Another solution?"
There's this bizarre solution, which is displaying your number on a website, and people call you - often paying very little thanks to their mobile phone tariff. Modern technology, eh?!
Do you honestly think an escort would have just one phone, for personal and work stuff combined? ???
As soon as I read this I thought 'Woooooaaaahhhh'.
Why don't we just let Fuber get on with it?
And
Is this going to end up like VS, claiming to be listening, responding, taking years to actually get the basics and still missing the point?
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"QUESTION: Assuming you would like to screen a client via phone would you like to do it by;
- Providing your number?
- Ability to call within the app for a nominal fee (i.e. a few pence per minute) thus removing the need for a second phone and screening your real number?
- Ability to receive calls within the app for a premium fee which is charged to the client and you receive the money also screening your real number?
- Another solution?"
There's this bizarre solution, which is displaying your number on a website, and people call you - often paying very little thanks to their mobile phone tariff. Modern technology, eh?!
Do you honestly think an escort would have just one phone, for personal and work stuff combined? ???
Dear Team Fuber
Look up "Occams Razer" it's a very old and valuable design tool that's used in many successful design concepts, it basically means the simplest solution often is the best one. I get the feeling your trying to incorporate too many complex solutions for something that should be simple regarding phone calls. You've put this fundamental point at the back end of your design brief as an afterthought when it's a fundamental. Think back to when we used to have cards in phone boxes, what were the fundamentals back then? They were 1. A picture and 2. a phone number
Think how do most girls get contacted on adult work, dating websites, grindr, trindr and the like because it's the same kind of principle with the same answer usually.
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Dear Holy Christ and all the apostles we DON'T want to phone punters. THEY want to phone US.
Is anybody else starting to think this is a wind up? We've had folk posting in this section over the years who could give a yoghurt a run for its money when it comes to industry knowledge, not to mention the sort of normal common sense and awareness that stops most adults getting run over every time we leave the house, but this is like trying to explain the Large Hadron Collider to a shower curtain. Over and over again.
I could start on all the newly posted crap above, but you know, my time is worth more than this. Everybody else fill your boots.
It seems they don't want to listen to anyone or answer any questions in a straight manner. Oh don't listen to us we are only the ones at the sharp end of the business who know what's what.
F uber is actually on social media and to my horror I noticed recently they were following me.
I cannot take this seriously at all.
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Yes I noticed they're on social media, I honestly think we should start a crowd funding situation, get some open source developers and create exactly what we need, it's easy to get something better than Adult Work, if it was funded and operated by WG's for WG's the punters would come in droves, imagine how soon punters would come if every WG mentioned it to her existing client base, something along the lines of a social enterprise legal structure, a crowd funded social enterprise project founded by WG and developed for WG!!! The media interest would help the crowd funding campaign as well
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QUESTION: Assuming you would like to screen a client via phone would you like to do it by;
- Providing your number?
- Ability to call within the app for a nominal fee (i.e. a few pence per minute) thus removing the need for a second phone and screening your real number?
- Ability to receive calls within the app for a premium fee which is charged to the client and you receive the money also screening your real number?
- Another solution?
Literally none of this. I'm not sure why you seem to think having a second phone is a huge inconvenience - it's not? And at the moment, clients can call me as I have it visible, and all they're paying is their own tariff. Why would any punter want to pay a fee to connect to an escort, and then pay again to call us when they can already do that without this added faff and charges?
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Literally none of this. I'm not sure why you seem to think having a second phone is a huge convenience - it's not? And at the moment, clients can call me as I have it visible, and all they're paying is their own tariff. Why would any punter want to pay a fee to connect to an escort, and then pay again to call us when they can already do that without this added faff and charges?
Exactly exactly exactly :) Having a separate phone is psychologically and practically hugely important, when I switch it off and put it away nobody can see it to answer it, my mum who might be visiting won't accidentally answer it or my partner (Although I'm currently single), it also psychologically helps me keep it separate to my private life, having a second phone is very important and I prefer it that way as do many others
As Lucie says why would a punter want to pay or even worse financially register with you which infringes on their anonymity even more, if guys are not willing to go into hotels because their scared of being noticed by reception do you seriously think they'll be happy to give you their credit and bank cards which yet again links them irrevocably to an escort site?
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If having a separate handset was really a huge fucking drag then I'd just put my work sim card into my personal phone, which has dual sim slots.
Why don't I do this? Oh maybe because I like turning my work phone off when I'm with my family/in the supermarket/at church.
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So you want us to pay a fee to take a call ? Do you know how many calls I get ? I can have an hour booking and have 27 missed calls by the time I have finished, I'm sorry but you haven't thought this out at all.
In all honesty your making an app to make profit, which is cool, everyone is doing it, but you don't have a clue how this industry works, the 2 escorts you have on your team, they should know better than to even advise you that this is a good idea.
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Think of all the questions from clients wives when 'fuber' pops up on their bank statements ::)
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Yes I noticed they're on social media, I honestly think we should start a crowd funding situation, get some open source developers and create exactly what we need, it's easy to get something better than Adult Work, if it was funded and operated by WG's for WG's the punters would come in droves, imagine how soon punters would come if every WG mentioned it to her existing client base, something along the lines of a social enterprise legal structure, a crowd funded social enterprise project founded by WG and developed for WG!!! The media interest would help the crowd funding campaign as well
I followed then on twitter to be told they are changing to a different twitter account.