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Hey there!

I'm here to introduce a new platform I've been working on for the past months. It's called Red Street and is currently live in London. Our goal is simple: eliminate time wasters, promote safety, make transactions easier. So, this is what it's all about.

Clients pay in advance. But not quite. Let me explain. If you charge £200 per hour, your price at Red Street is 🌹200. Clients buy 🌹200 with their credit cards or bitcoin and they request a booking with you. By doing that, they essentially demonstrate an interest and readiness to pay. When you meet, he simply clicks ''release roses'' and its all yours. Then we send you a bank transfer to the amount of roses you have :) I think its great because it gives safety to both parties: you know that if he paid, he is serious and he knows that his money is not gone until you actually meet.

Its free for escorts. You decide how much to charge. We run by charging a % over your fees, just like AirBNB for example. So, if you say you want to charge £200 per hour, the client sees and pays £230. You can also see reviews that the client had from previous providers.

Here's a quick video:
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And here's the website itself:
https://redstreet.co.uk

To register as a provider, simply click on Adult Entertainers link to the top. If you have any queries, just message me here or e-mail me at info@redstreet.co.uk

Any feedback would be extremely helpful and appreciated.

Cheers!
« Last Edit: 24 June 2019, 11:22:45 am by amy »

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Re: Red Street: A new platform that eliminates time-wasters
« Reply #1 on: 24 June 2019, 11:21:56 am »
*sighs*

https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/a-new-(and-safer)-form-of-prostitution
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/incall-for-hobbyists-and-ladies/15/
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/adult-call-takers-'virtual'-office-solutions-for-the-adult-industry
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/turn-missed-bookings-into-business
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/the-world's-1st-escorting-app-coming-soon/30/
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/online-booking-system-any-thoughts
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/got-to-thinking-about-what-a-wg-mobile-app-might-look-like
https://saafe.info/main/spamming-in-the-lions'-den/take-the-hassle-out-of-bookings

Read and learn. From one of the above:

Or, to give an example from yesterday:
Punter calls me at 1.37pm and gets a text saying I'm busy and can answer from 2pm.
Punter calls back at 2pm, arranges booking for 3pm and is given directions.
Punters arrives at 3pm, pays upfront so I have my money, he has a service in return and leaves at 3.30pm.

Bear in mind that the first step only applies if I'm busy when they ring. The rest of the time it's no more complicated than steps two and three and nobody needed to go near an 'app'.

Punters aren't going to pay a random third party without even having seen us in person yet; why would they? How do they get their money back if all is not well, or in the event of a cancellation? And by charging a cut per booking you're also breaking the law in the same way as any agency pimp would be - AirBnb are not.

How do we screen punters? Surely when they call to book we're not supposed to direct them to some faffy app rather than just get them straight round with their cash (and if a punter is going to pay thirty quid more than my rate, why should he give it to you and not me, especially when he'll know to just book direct next time and avoid doing so?)

That's just after a skim read, obviously. I'm sure others have a more detailed critique, but all I can say is back to the drawing board.

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« Reply #2 on: 24 June 2019, 11:33:38 am »
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Hey there!

Clients pay in advance. But not quite. Let me explain

.. explains how clients do in fact pay in advance, starting with handing over significant sums to this clueless bunch.

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If you charge £200 per hour, your price at Red Street is 🌹200. Clients buy 🌹200 with their credit cards or bitcoin and they request a booking with you.

They get charged £230 for that, yes? WTF would they pay £230 to see someone charging £200, or is it just the very stupid clients that you are aiming for?

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Then we send you a bank transfer to the amount of roses you have

Can you think of a single reason why someone might want to trust you with their bank details?

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I think its great because

"I make 15% off your income and haven't thought of the VAT implications - the whole amount will be my turnover as far as HMRC are concerned, so in the unlikely event that I find about 400 idiots I will have to start charging VAT - nevermind that I will be controlling prostitution for gain and face up to seven years in jail"?

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it gives safety to both parties: you know that if he paid, he is serious and he knows that his money is not gone until you actually meet.

WTF is the advantage for anyone here over accepting cash at the very start of a booking (or indeed asking for a deposit) and WTF would anyone go through with a booking in the hope that a client will say 'yes, it happened' rather than deny it and not have to pay? Oh yes, you are targeting stupid clients...

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Any feedback would be extremely helpful

If you paid for any of this, especially for accounting or legal advice, get your money back on grounds of professional incompetence now.




« Last Edit: 24 June 2019, 11:37:42 am by xw5 »
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #3 on: 24 June 2019, 11:38:13 am »
There are so many flaws in this platform I don't know where to start... Might work for pimps is the best I can say.
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« Reply #4 on: 24 June 2019, 11:49:39 am »
All right, so where to begin with.

First of all, everything about what we do is legal. We have discussed the matter with two independent lawyers that specialize in the field. Legally speaking, we are not taking a cut from your work. Clients are paying to see your contact details.

The purpose of our business is not to serve as a booking app. I know that this is unrealistic. And unnecessary. But I know that payment providers have repeatedly discriminated sex workers and I believe we came up with a solution to this.

We are a legal business, with bank account, and we are approved by master card and visa to process payments for the purpose. You are absolutely safe to provide bank details with us and you are at the very least much, much safer than to give it to a random client to send a deposit.

I think that you also kind of take it for granted that clients are aware of what the price is. If they find you on Red Street and like you, they'll book you. This is especially true for outcalls where clients might be lazy to go look for an ATM and would value the convenience. Business travelers frequently book with their corporate credit cards and report it as a travel expense of some sort. Its much better than withdrawing cash.

Because payments are through our platform, we are essentially the only place online where reviews are genuine for sure. We know for sure that if there's a review, clients has definitely visited the escort. And the same goes vice versa. If you see a previous provider left a review, you know its genuine.

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« Reply #5 on: 24 June 2019, 11:52:12 am »
Having looked at the site, who did you copy and paste the Terms and Conditions from?

Just how totally clueless did they have to be to write the last one?

Similarly with the Privacy Policy - where from and how clueless?

The roses (JFC) are being sold at £1. Where does your 15% come from if escorts are paid £1 per rose (end it, please end it) they charge?
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« Reply #6 on: 24 June 2019, 12:01:52 pm »
First of all, everything about what we do is legal. We have discussed the matter with two independent lawyers that specialize in the field.

And they approved your Terms and Conditions? Really??

You won't have a problem saying who they are if you are confident of all this.

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Legally speaking, we are not taking a cut from your work. Clients are paying to see your contact details.

You are profiting from arranging prostitution: you have already said payment doesn't happen until the client OKs it..

That's control for gain, just as with an agency.

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I know that payment providers have repeatedly discriminated sex workers and I believe we came up with a solution to this.

It's one of the reasons people want to be paid in cash...

Do Visa / Mastercard know you are dealing with prostitution?
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« Reply #7 on: 24 June 2019, 12:02:27 pm »
First of all, everything about what we do is legal. We have discussed the matter with two independent lawyers that specialize in the field. Legally speaking, we are not taking a cut from your work. Clients are paying to see your contact details.

My contact details are available all over the internet - nobody has to pay to see them and if you think anybody is going to hand over the cost of a booking just to get my phone number then you're even more cracked than I thought. And it's 'specialise' - your use of the US spelling tells us a lot about where you're getting your ideas. I hope you didn't pay those 'independent lawyers'.

Because payments are through our platform, we are essentially the only place online where reviews are genuine for sure. We know for sure that if there's a review, clients has definitely visited the escort. And the same goes vice versa. If you see a previous provider left a review, you know its genuine.

Because fake reviews don't exist  :FF

Just because somebody else has seen a punter, doesn't mean I will want to see them - what happens when they've paid up and I turn them down? And Hell will freeze over before I give some jumped up shitehawk my bank details and access to my fee. The only people who ever need to have their hands on it are my customer and me.

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« Reply #8 on: 24 June 2019, 12:06:01 pm »
I am not sure where they are from - "roses" are what some clueless US escorts use to pretend they're not doing sex for cash, obviously - but other bits are Australian.

'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #9 on: 24 June 2019, 12:15:00 pm »
But "We bring the escort industry to the 21st century!"

And "we will tell you which of your pictures and services are the most interesting to clients"!

"We can even tell you how to change your prices during the week to maximize your earnings"!

Plus "YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO DEAL WITH NON-SERIOS CALLS!"

And don't forget that "You no longer need to take phone calls in foreign languages"!!
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #10 on: 24 June 2019, 12:18:35 pm »
But "We bring the escort industry to the 21st century!"

And "we will tell you which of your pictures and services are the most interesting to clients"!

"We can even tell you how to change your prices during the week to maximize your earnings"!

Plus "YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO DEAL WITH NON-SERIOS CALLS!"

And don't forget that "You no longer need to take phone calls in foreign languages"!!

Priceless ;D

Thank you Ian, for your tireless looking-at of the website so we don't have to :).

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« Reply #11 on: 24 June 2019, 12:19:50 pm »
Its just a jargon for online credits. Call them credits, tokens, whatever, we call them roses.

Our business model is very fair. We don't charge any subscription fees, advertising etc. Everybody can join. And yes, of course we need to charge something. But its quite transparent. You set how many roses you'd like to receive and you see what is the final amount the client will pay.

To answer your question: If the client requests a booking and you turn it down, the roses go back immediately to his wallet and he can try with another provider. If he still doesn't find what he's looking for, we'll refund.

The question if MC / VISA know that ''we are doing prostitution" is quite funny considering the fact that they do substantial legal due diligence of the business model / company directors prior to providing an account.

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« Reply #12 on: 24 June 2019, 12:22:39 pm »
Hi OP,

How much experience of being a sex worker do you have, yourself? And the rest of your development team?
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« Reply #13 on: 24 June 2019, 12:27:01 pm »
Hi OP,

How much experience of being a sex worker do you have, yourself? And the rest of your development team?

I don't have experience with sex work. But we have one with experience. The girl on the youtube video I provided.

During our research we interviewed 50 sex workers and like half said that they are worried that their clients know that they keep substantial amounts of cash with them and would be happier if they received payments directly in the bank and not have to take it as cash and deposit it themselves.

And it goes without saying that there are so many things to polish and improve. But I think that the idea of digital payments in the sex industry is not as ridiculous now as it was just a few years ago.

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« Reply #14 on: 24 June 2019, 01:47:24 pm »
I am not sure where they are from - "roses" are what some clueless US escorts use to pretend they're not doing sex for cash, obviously - but other bits are Australian.

Ah, the sole director (and company secretary, although you don't need one of those any more) of the company behind this is a Bulgarian student.
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