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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #300 on: 09 February 2015, 09:24:21 pm »
The moderators also keep removing my website address from my advert despite the email stating the rules saying this, "Website URL?s are allowed in the description, as long as it is your own site and Does not contain any disturbing content. (Please be aware that no Hyperlinks are allowed)." I have written the link in text with no hyperlink and there is not even any nudity on my site.

Getting very frustrated!

Hi Red KB,

Sometimes certain keywords are flagged in messages, which means they are sent to a moderator to review (to cut down on spam) - this could be the reason. I can check for you in the morning with the CS team.

On the URL front please email me at es@ with your ad id and url and I will check to see why this is being removed and feedback tomorrow apologies.

Thank you,

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Are you saying that the messages we receive through vivastreet site are being held and read by mods?
Why?
Really?
I dont mind if I get some spam, but I do mind when a mod reads my incoming messages and is revising them hours after the punter wrote them. Meantime that punter goes to another girl, meaning I lose money.
Very interesting is that I didnt know this until Red KB posted on here.

I would apreciate if your site will allow the messages we get to go through without any delay or being read by mods, thanks.
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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #301 on: 10 February 2015, 08:18:36 am »
Neither of the 2 test messages I sent myself yesterday have arrived. All one of them said was, "Hi, Can I make a booking." Nothing spammy there at all. Would explain why I've received emails asking if I can be seen in the afternoon, when it's already the evening.
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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #302 on: 10 February 2015, 08:23:40 am »
I really hope Finny will remove this hold of messages we get asap.
I just begun trusting Vivastreet after not advertising there for more than one year because of the ridiculous way of deleting pics/words and I thought the way of moderation had changed.

But finding about them holding our messages from punters for a pointless moderation, meaning we lost money, its inacceptable.
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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #303 on: 10 February 2015, 09:26:57 am »
One of my test messages has just come through. Almost 13 hours after I sent it. This is really not acceptable.
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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #304 on: 10 February 2015, 09:40:10 am »
Hi Red KB,

The URL you attached doesn't link to a live site, so this is why is would be removed? Can you check the address is correct, I have also emailed to advise.

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #305 on: 10 February 2015, 09:57:09 am »
One of my test messages has just come through. Almost 13 hours after I sent it. This is really not acceptable.

Hi Red KB and HotBlondie,

Let me clarify on the message front, only messages that contain certain spammy phrases or words (that we know spammers use) are blocked and then checked by a moderator. Let me confirm the vast majority of these messages are spam user accounts are blocked.

We do not check all your messages, many many thousands are sent on a daily basis so this would not be possible. everything is automated apart from the very last check which the vast majority of the time is correct and its spam.

I will investigate on your messages however, as they should not be taking so long to come through - once I have more answers for you I will advise.

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #306 on: 10 February 2015, 10:06:04 am »
Hi Red KB and HotBlondie,

I have asked for some examples of messages blocked over the weekend, to give you an idea...

-   Pretty lady I really want to fuck you hard xxx, I hope you can pay me?

-   Hi baby i m looking for free sex send me u r address

Hopefully you will agree these are not messages that you would want?

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #307 on: 10 February 2015, 10:21:42 am »
Finny, with the best will in the world this is not spam, and it's not for you to attempt to do our screening for us.

The above messages are not from people which I would want to see but that's for me to to decide, not some third party who has appointed themselves as my receptionist without being asked.

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #308 on: 10 February 2015, 10:27:12 am »
I agree with Amy. I would rather not get those emails but we are used to them. I would much rather get my messages ASAP and screen for myself.

I can't see how those particular messages throw up anything that the computer would flag as problematic.

One potentially useful thing would be if your computer notices the same email address generating lots of identical messages. So, if some twat is sending the same message to dozens of women, perhaps they could get a pop-up telling them that they are no longer allowed to send messages because they appear to be spamming. A guy sending the same message to lots of women is unlikely to be giving money to any of them and they're probably wasting our time. On the other hand, even that may not be appreciated. There are guys who do that AW because they are asking for something stupid. There's a guy who messages every woman asking if she'll take cocaine and do bareback. He is accruing feedback so I think some small percentage of women are taking him up on his offer - as is their prerogative.

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #309 on: 10 February 2015, 10:44:50 am »
Finny, with the best will in the world this is not spam, and it's not for you to attempt to do our screening for us.

The above messages are not from people which I would want to see but that's for me to to decide, not some third party who has appointed themselves as my receptionist without being asked.

Hi Amy,

Thanks for the feedback and I understand your point completely, I will speak with the tech team and see if this is something that can perhaps be optional by user account. We do 'believe' these messages are spam and some complicated computer algorithm determines this based on number of messages the user is attempting to send in a time frame and types of ads they are replying to etc.

To be fair its used across the site, not just in the adult categories - if there is a consensus on this I am sure we can look to remove from the escort category level. Once I have the options clear wha we can offer I will come back yo everyone.

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #310 on: 10 February 2015, 10:50:18 am »
I agree with Amy. I would rather not get those emails but we are used to them. I would much rather get my messages ASAP and screen for myself.

I can't see how those particular messages throw up anything that the computer would flag as problematic.

One potentially useful thing would be if your computer notices the same email address generating lots of identical messages. So, if some twat is sending the same message to dozens of women, perhaps they could get a pop-up telling them that they are no longer allowed to send messages because they appear to be spamming. A guy sending the same message to lots of women is unlikely to be giving money to any of them and they're probably wasting our time. On the other hand, even that may not be appreciated. There are guys who do that AW because they are asking for something stupid. There's a guy who messages every woman asking if she'll take cocaine and do bareback. He is accruing feedback so I think some small percentage of women are taking him up on his offer - as is their prerogative.

Thanks Fabulassie, I am checking options and will reply. Hopefully we can potentially play with the settings to optimise for the escort section, as I appreciate one size fits all doesn't always work.

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #311 on: 10 February 2015, 12:37:38 pm »
One of my test messages read, "Hello, I would like to make a booking." What in that could possibly be spammy?

I would definitely prefer messages to come straight to me with no moderation.
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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #312 on: 10 February 2015, 08:42:33 pm »
Hi Red KB and HotBlondie,

I have asked for some examples of messages blocked over the weekend, to give you an idea...

-   Pretty lady I really want to fuck you hard xxx, I hope you can pay me?

-   Hi baby i m looking for free sex send me u r address

Hopefully you will agree these are not messages that you would want?

Thank you,

The Vivastreet Team - Finny

As the other ladies here already said, those messages you gave us as examples are not spam and its our choice if we answer or not.
I dont quite understand why would you think its normal and ok to moderate and hold them for hours  without our knowledge?
I understand you are making an excuse for an old way of doing things on vivastreet but as we all have seen, you and your mods really tried to change thing and make them better for us, the prossies who bring you a nice income and we apreciate that.
But doing things behind our backs its not helping the change, its a prove of the old ways so please take those spam filter out and let us deal with the messages we get, thank you.
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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #313 on: 11 February 2015, 09:48:19 am »
Something I would REALLY like to see from vivastreet is the option to have shorter duration adverts. I usually tour for one week a month and the advert is completely useless in my home town, I get no business from it whatsoever so the change of location is severely bad value for me. I must admit to feeling a little 'stung' when I am using just one week of a ?30-40 advert that lasts a month. I'd be interested to know if other ladies are in a similar situation to me (touring 1 week here and there and effectively wasting 3 weeks of advertising) and whether or not Vivastreet have considered short duration adverts?:)

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Re: New Vivastreet posting rules (UK) and online focus group
« Reply #314 on: 11 February 2015, 11:22:03 am »
Hi everyone,

Just to let you know we have turned off the automated system for messages in the escort section, so by tomorrow all messages will come through and not pass via the automated filters.

We are going to look at some other way to offer this as a service on an account by account level in the future for those who choose.

Thank you,

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