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Hello everyone,

We are excited to introduce ourselves as the team behind AdultKama™, a newly launched classifieds platform for escorts and massage services in the UK. We’ve been following discussions in this forum and recognize the challenges that professionals in the adult industry face when it comes to advertising safely and effectively online.

The Problem

With so many platforms already out there, we know it can be overwhelming to find a reliable site that works for you. Many websites either focus on profit, fail to prioritize safety, lack proper moderation, or over-complicate their features without delivering real value. For both advertisers and users, this can lead to frustrating experiences, unnecessary risks, and wasted time as well as money.

Our Solution

AdultKama™ was created with the goal of addressing these pain points. Our focus is on providing a platform that is simple to use, secure, affordable and tailored to the needs of the industry. Using clear guidelines, robust verification, and a straightforward interface, we aim to create an environment where professionals feel supported and users have confidence in the listings they browse.

We are not here to claim we’re perfect or that we have all the answers. What we do promise is to listen to feedback, continually improve, and maintain transparency in how we operate. Our goal is to build trust over time and demonstrate that we take the concerns of this community seriously.

To show our appreciation for the insights and experiences shared within this forum, we are offering every member who joins from SAAFE a £100 credit to use on AdultKama™. This credit can be used for listings at no cost to you. Please message us with your account/email.

If anyone has questions, suggestions or feedback, we’re here to engage constructively and learn from the experiences of those who know this industry best. Thank you for welcoming us into this space.

https://adultkama.co.uk/

Warm regards,
The AdultKama™ Team
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« Reply #1 on: 05 December 2024, 10:13:03 am »
Please give more details of this 'robust verification'.

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« Reply #2 on: 05 December 2024, 10:22:23 am »
Please give more details of this 'robust verification'.

Absolutely :)

We employ both automated and manual verification of all users and ads/content posted on our platform. For example, spammers/scammers that invite you to telegram and such are immediately blocked. Unfortunately communication outside of our platform cannot be moderated, nobody can really; however ads can be reported and our team are checking reports regularly.

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« Reply #3 on: 05 December 2024, 10:58:24 am »
We employ both automated and manual verification of all users and ads/content posted on our platform.

And what exactly does this entail? Checking how, and for what?

I don't want or need an advertising platform to try to do my screening for me - that's my job. An advertising platform's job is to build a site that punters can find and want to use so that I get decent business from it, and that doesn't necessarily mean the site itself has to be particularly good (see Adultwork).

I don't use any on-site messaging, booking systems or other faff; I just want punters to read my ads, text me and book. This means the information they need (location, prices, services, phone number) has to be clear and easy to find, and I'll do the rest.

Your spelling is not British English; which country do you usually operate in? If it's the US, then you do know prostitution is legal here, right?

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« Reply #4 on: 05 December 2024, 11:12:02 am »
And what exactly does this entail? Checking how, and for what?

I don't want or need an advertising platform to try to do my screening for me - that's my job. An advertising platform's job is to build a site that punters can find and want to use so that I get decent business from it, and that doesn't necessarily mean the site itself has to be particularly good (see Adultwork).

I don't use any on-site messaging, booking systems or other faff; I just want punters to read my ads, text me and book. This means the information they need (location, prices, services, phone number) has to be clear and easy to find, and I'll do the rest.

Your spelling is not British English; which country do you usually operate in? If it's the US, then you do know prostitution is legal here, right?

Hi Amy,

Thanks for your feedback and for sharing your perspective, it's really good to understand what works best for you.

Our goal is not to interfere with your screening process or complicate things with unnecessary features. We focus on providing a platform that effectively showcases your ads, making it easy for potential clients to find the information they need such as location, prices, services, and your contact details so you can handle the rest.

To clarify, our moderation is limited to ensuring that the content posted complies with legal and ethical standards, such as prohibiting underage content or anything illegal or scams. Beyond that, we strive to keep the platform straightforward and effective for advertisers like you.

Appreciate your note on spelling! We're based in the UK, and our platform tries to align with local laws and practices. If there’s anything specific you’d like to see or avoid on the site, feel free to share. Your insights are incredibly helpful as we continue to refine the platform.

Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts, it’s much appreciated!

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« Reply #5 on: 05 December 2024, 11:49:05 am »
From your Terms Of Use (which looks very comprehensive and I haven't read it all):

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3: Paid Ads for the following types of items and/or services may not be posted:

Illegal activities, including prostitution or solicitation that violates UK law.

How is this going to work when the people you're hoping will want to post ads are prostitutes? We need to be able to give clear information about what's on offer and how much it costs - there is nothing illegal about advertising prostitution, so what is this clause intended for?

Does this mean you won't be allowing agencies (which are illegal) to post ads? That would be a massive plus for a lot of us if so.

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« Reply #6 on: 05 December 2024, 12:24:23 pm »
From your Terms Of Use (which looks very comprehensive and I haven't read it all):

How is this going to work when the people you're hoping will want to post ads are prostitutes? We need to be able to give clear information about what's on offer and how much it costs - there is nothing illegal about advertising prostitution, so what is this clause intended for?

Does this mean you won't be allowing agencies (which are illegal) to post ads? That would be a massive plus for a lot of us if so.

The legal framework around this in the UK is somewhat ambiguous. While other websites may allow users to openly advertise every service they offer, we take a more restrictive approach. If you have the time to check the current ads on our site, you can get a clear sense of what is permitted and what is not, even if it's technically legal.

As for agencies, none of those currently advertising with us explicitly "sell sex" on our platform if that helps clarify. We allow a limited range of information to be posted, and any activities beyond that, occurring between consenting parties, are entirely outside our control.

In essence, you are not allowed to post an ad like: "Bad bitch in your area that offers OWO and A-LEVEL".

Hope that makes sense.

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« Reply #7 on: 05 December 2024, 12:45:04 pm »
Hi Norbert,

Are your building cleaning, private security, and AI businesses not going so well then?

I had a look, saw that you had zero male escorts on the latest venture, and wondered how far that hundred pounds credit would get me. To see your prices rather than those of the advertisers, I have to create an account, and to do that, I have to pretend to agree to stuff like this..

Not wanting people to link anything other than the homepage, including to their own ads, is a bit odd. I'd give a link to the Terms, but :) it's 7.2.

Does 9.2 mean you're not allowed to use an ad blocker, including to stop Google tracking us? I can imagine that letting Google know you're browsing an escort site is enormously popular with users.

11.2.1 says I can't post anything sexually explicit. Obscene in 11.2.2, I get, cos you don't want to be seen as a publisher of obscene material. But "sexually explicit"??? Does that mean I can't say I'll suck cock for cash?

Oh no, that's prostitution and you have already had the stupidity of the ban on that pointed out. You are serious about it though because the posting policy says "Listings in the Escorts category must not be sexual in nature or offer explicit services. Ads for companionship should be placed within the "Escorts" category."

Enough. Did anyone go further and see how much he wants to charge for a useless ad?

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« Reply #8 on: 05 December 2024, 12:52:48 pm »
The legal framework around this in the UK is somewhat ambiguous.

No, it's not.
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« Reply #9 on: 05 December 2024, 01:10:30 pm »
Are your building cleaning, private security, and AI businesses not going so well then?

To be fair, the AI branch of the empire appears to have its hands full writing his posts here (note to bot; British English doesn't use a 'z' in words like 'prioritise' and 'recognise').

Did anyone go further and see how much he wants to charge for a useless ad?

Not me. I started to fill out the form (using one of my many names and emails for the purpose), and then looked at the Privacy Policy, which mentions that amongst other things they expect to collect personal information from us including our name.

I assume you mean our work name AK, since nobody is going to give you their legal personal details?

As for agencies, none of those currently advertising with us explicitly "sell sex" on our platform if that helps clarify. We allow a limited range of information to be posted, and any activities beyond that, occurring between consenting parties, are entirely outside our control.

In essence, you are not allowed to post an ad like: "Bad bitch in your area that offers OWO and A-LEVEL"

Then I'm out. I want punters to know exactly what's available and what's not before they contact me; this avoids wasting my time and theirs and more importantly clears up any ambiguity, which could at worst lead to an in-person confrontation. Not allowing us to set clear boundaries compromises our safety.

I also expect to be able to word my ads any way I choose (within reason), because they're my ads.

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« Reply #10 on: 05 December 2024, 03:43:32 pm »
Are your building cleaning, private security, and AI businesses not going so well then?

Hi Richard,

Nice to meet you. I'm sorry, but why are you talking about my personal ventures? This seems very unprofessional and extremely appalling. I'm not here to research anyone's private life, so I expect the same.

To answer your questions:

I had a look, saw that you had zero male escorts on the latest venture, and wondered how far that hundred pounds credit would get me. To see your prices rather than those of the advertisers, I have to create an account, and to do that, I have to pretend to agree to stuff like this..

Indeed, the website is 2 weeks old roughly. So we need content, which is why the offering. £100 credit gets you with an ad posted for about 5 months. The current prices very competitive, affordable and are no secret; they are displayed before posting:

  • Basic Posting - £4.99 for 7 days
  • Advanced Posting - £9.99 for 14 days
  • Professional Posting - £19.99 for 28 days

Not wanting people to link anything other than the homepage, including to their own ads, is a bit odd. I'd give a link to the Terms, but :) it's 7.2.

We want to control toxic traffic, as there is quite a few links already to bogus sites. Of course is someone contacts us and speaks nicely, we can allow any linking.

Does 9.2 mean you're not allowed to use an ad blocker, including to stop Google tracking us? I can imagine that letting Google know you're browsing an escort site is enormously popular with users.

No idea what exactly did you read or understood, but that's not what it says. It says that if we have third party advertising (which we don't, and won't have for the foreseeable future), don't remove it. Of course we cannot know if you blocked an ad, so this is just legal mumbo jumbo.

11.2.1 says I can't post anything sexually explicit. Obscene in 11.2.2, I get, cos you don't want to be seen as a publisher of obscene material. But "sexually explicit"??? Does that mean I can't say I'll suck cock for cash?

Correct, you cannot say that on our platform. If you disagree, you are more than welcome to post on another site which allows that.

Oh no, that's prostitution and you have already had the stupidity of the ban on that pointed out. You are serious about it though because the posting policy says "Listings in the Escorts category must not be sexual in nature or offer explicit services. Ads for companionship should be placed within the "Escorts" category."

Not even going to bother answering this anymore, clearly you are here out of frustration or something. I'm personally not here for any vendettas or anything the like; I came here to promote a service as allowed by the forum. So please stop using firstname basis, we don't know each other; and keep things focused on the main topic.

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« Reply #11 on: 05 December 2024, 03:46:32 pm »
To be fair, the AI branch of the empire appears to have its hands full writing his posts here (note to bot; British English doesn't use a 'z' in words like 'prioritise' and 'recognise').

I'm sorry, but there is no bot here. I'm not British, so my English is American.


Not me. I started to fill out the form (using one of my many names and emails for the purpose), and then looked at the Privacy Policy, which mentions that amongst other things they expect to collect personal information from us including our name.

I assume you mean our work name AK, since nobody is going to give you their legal personal details?

Then I'm out. I want punters to know exactly what's available and what's not before they contact me; this avoids wasting my time and theirs and more importantly clears up any ambiguity, which could at worst lead to an in-person confrontation. Not allowing us to set clear boundaries compromises our safety.

I also expect to be able to word my ads any way I choose (within reason), because they're my ads.

Sorry, in this case our platform is not for you; which is fine, it doesn't need to be for everyone.

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« Reply #12 on: 05 December 2024, 06:23:57 pm »
I'm sorry, but why are you talking about my personal ventures? This seems very unprofessional and extremely appalling. I'm not here to research anyone's private life, so I expect the same.

Directorships are not private: it's part of the trade off you make in exchange for limited liability when your company runs out of money. Potential customers can look you up and go 'What sort of track record does this person have?' because they are taking a risk in dealing with a company.

Perhaps they wanted to point out that you are just the latest in a long series of apparently clueless people who have thought "I know, I'll make some easy money off others who are having sex for cash (not that I will admit that's what I want to do!)"?

There's a reason for the title of this section of the board. Here be lions.

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Indeed, the website is 2 weeks old roughly.

Yes, and you are in the position of competing with a site that has vastly more traffic in terms of visitors and is (more or less) free to advertise on. And the all others.

This is the equivalent of saying 'Hey everyone, advertise your stuff for sale on my new site! It's free for almost the first five months! It'll be a fiver a week after that' when eBay and Marketplace and Vinted and Gumtree and.. got there first, and have numerous reasons to sell there and be places people look, and you can't say what it is you're offering on your site.

On the plus side, you don't look to have stolen anyone's content - certainly not from Edinburgh! - and also don't look to be a punter (a client) going 'this is what I want, therefore lots of people want this'. If you were, you'd realise that what Amy says about not wasting both sides' time by stopping people being clear about what's on offer is absolutely right. So well done for those.

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We want to control toxic traffic, as there is quite a few links already to bogus sites.


That's links out, and that's another discussion.

You're trying to forbid links in to your site. Someone who pays you to advertise on your site cannot, according to your rules, link to their ad on your site from elsewhere unless they "speak nicely" to you first.

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this is just legal mumbo jumbo.

And it's not the only bit. Did you pay a lawyer for anything at all or is it all infected with AI hallucinations?
'The Ian formerly known as SW5'. What they said: "Indispensable", "You are our best resource", and (hours later!) "I'm afraid that you're being made redundant..."

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« Reply #13 on: 06 December 2024, 01:18:14 am »
When potential clients are looking to book a sex worker, they want to know what they are getting for their money, and that is why all of the busy, successful advertising platforms in the UK let the Sex worker say exactly what they do and don't do for the money.

There is absolutely no point in advertising on a website that won't let the sex workers state they suck cock for cash.

None of us are in this for companionship.

UK law isn't ambiguous. Prostitution is legal, and advertising is legal...

There are exceptions that aren't legal... brothels, escort agencies, underage... all spring to my mind.... but if you are going to run a legitimate advertising website, then you would figure out a way to exclude that illegal business from advertising.

All you are doing is showing you know ZERO about our industry and seem to have done no research.




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« Reply #14 on: 06 December 2024, 01:40:13 am »
Oh, I need to add another more...

I have a very particular set of skills!
I don't want people contacting me because they want Penetrative sex or Oral sex or many other things that I don't do - exchange multiple messages with those people is a waste of time.

I need to tell people exactly what my skill set is and for them to be perfectly clear that I don't offer an extensive menu.

I offer a very specific service. You cloud everything with euphemisms which isn't good for anyone.