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Title: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Incall on 01 June 2016, 02:02:02 pm
Incall gives opportunity to offer and to find escort service on your iPhone and Android.

Feature rich:
✳ Detailed profile includes appearance, striptease, massage, sex, BDSM, extreme, roles, recording
✳ Search criteria with more 30 options in profiles
✳ Search escort available at specific time and location
✳ Don't Disturb mode with customizable schedule
✳ Easy modify your location

Social: Evaluate and share experience within community!
✳ Escort reviews
✳ Clients reviews
✳ Trusted circles for reviews


Outstanding Privacy and Security
 due to Incall is innovative chatbot in Telegram messenger.

 - No suspicious web sites
✳ Protected from tracking by cellular provider, hotel IT, etc.
✳ Your photos as well as your profile are available only inside chat for members and not published on Internet

To start with Incall get Telegram messenger from AppStore or Google Play and start conversation with @incallbot
Or just start with https://telegram.me/incallbot?start=1

Inside Incall chat you can easy contact with our Support. We are glad to all questions and feedback from you.

Sincerely,
 Incall team

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Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: shinyisabela on 27 June 2016, 01:33:03 pm
I have opened link and see a page that suggest to start messaging. What is it?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Incall on 27 June 2016, 05:04:37 pm
To start use Incall it is necessary to setup Telegram messenger from AppStore or Google Play. Sorry, my first post contains mistake that go to link is enough. Telegram should be on your device first.

Don't hesitate to ask any questions.

Cheers,
 Incall team
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 28 June 2017, 06:29:36 pm
Hello ladies,

While escort directories appear on the Web day after day, our team have launched service to connect escorts and clients using messenger on smartphones instead of Web browsers.
Since launch we knew that most of you hate messengers like Whatsapp, Viber, etc. in your business by reason of big amount of timewasters and privacy issues. And reading this forum i got that most of ladies need second smartphone for business.
 

INCALL solves these issues. It setups barrier for timewasters and help real clients to make proper requests. INCALL privacy and security let you work even on you main smartphone. To hide INCALL on your device is so simple as delete chat in messenger ;)

I'd be glad if you ladies try it and give your feedback.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: amy on 29 June 2017, 12:01:00 am
You're aware that the majority of us are in the UK? The word you're after is 'punters', not hobbyists.

I'm guessing that you've seen the most recent car crash of a thread from somebody who thought we'd want a phone app. Why do you think that we would prefer this to a simple, straightforward phone call?

And out of interest, are you making any provision for people who don't offer or book incalls? Is there an OUTCALL one too?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 29 June 2017, 08:38:52 am
You're aware that the majority of us are in the UK? The word you're after is 'punters', not hobbyists.

I'm guessing that you've seen the most recent car crash of a thread from somebody who thought we'd want a phone app. Why do you think that we would prefer this to a simple, straightforward phone call?

And out of interest, are you making any provision for people who don't offer or book incalls? Is there an OUTCALL one too?

I've recently tried one of these new apps. Wasted 2 days of my time on something which won't work for me. For a start off it only works on Android 5 or iPhone, and it requires you input an address which it supplies to clients when you agree the booking.

The owners say it works for the others who use it.  ::)
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 30 June 2017, 04:43:46 pm
You're aware that the majority of us are in the UK? The word you're after is 'punters', not hobbyists.

Yes, but for our service we prefer main terminology: hobbyists and ladies. Punters become part of the game later.  :)

I'm guessing that you've seen the most recent car crash of a thread from somebody who thought we'd want a phone app. Why do you think that we would prefer this to a simple, straightforward phone call?

Phone call is important for screening and booking. And we offer a way to list profiles, initiate requests and rate your experience in app on smartphone. We are sure it is much better way than use Web browser on smartphone for list profiles.

With INCALL lady's phone number is not available for everyone until lady send it in response for particular request.

And out of interest, are you making any provision for people who don't offer or book incalls? Is there an OUTCALL one too?

Yes, for sure. INCALL is just a simple name for service.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 30 June 2017, 04:49:54 pm
I've recently tried one of these new apps. Wasted 2 days of my time on something which won't work for me. For a start off it only works on Android 5 or iPhone,

INCALL lives inside Telegram messenger, which is available on iPhones, most of Androids, Windows Phone, desktop Mac and Windows.

and it requires you input an address which it supplies to clients when you agree the booking.

Our service request lady's location for incall and outcall area in profile. And we recommend to specify approximate location for security purposes. Your rendezvous location can be agreed during screening.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Aqua Allegoria on 30 June 2017, 05:26:53 pm
Hello Lary,

I'm very curious about how your app sets up what you call barrier for timewasters?
Would you please explain?
Thank you
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 03 July 2017, 05:18:49 pm
To communicate with lady via INCALL hobbyist should start with request and specify proposed venue and time of appointment. So lady knows what she will talking about. INCALL doesn't allow unpredictable "Hello bla-bla" from strangers.

And next most important are reviews. Ladies are able to rate hobbyist with easy and see reviews of particular hobbyist before answer.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 03 July 2017, 05:25:49 pm
I've recently tried one of these new apps. Wasted 2 days of my time on something which won't work for me. For a start off it only works on Android 5 or iPhone, and it requires you input an address which it supplies to clients when you agree the booking.

The owners say it works for the others who use it.  ::)

Mirror, please contact our support to discuss your negative experience and get smth positive :)
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: amy on 03 July 2017, 10:14:24 pm
Once again, this forum is UK based, not American - we don't get contacted by, take bookings from or otherwise deal with 'hobbyists' here and the word is punter.

If you want to market your app to people here, why don't you use the correct term?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 04 July 2017, 01:05:35 pm
I've had a look at this, it seems to be a messaging app. I'll investigate further - really hope that the future isn't an app for every directory. My android is full enough as it is!

Had to remove Costa coffee to free up enough room to accept the app which 'Incall' uses. ::)
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 04 July 2017, 01:28:20 pm
Actually it's not that bad once you get into it, apart from the 'hobbyist' tag.

A rough location can be provided.

Whether any potential clients will use it is another thing entirely.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 04 July 2017, 04:43:36 pm
To communicate with lady via INCALL hobbyist should start with request and specify proposed venue and time of appointment. So lady knows what she will talking about. INCALL doesn't allow unpredictable "Hello bla-bla" from strangers.

And next most important are reviews. Ladies are able to rate hobbyist with easy and see reviews of particular hobbyist before answer.

Err yes it does! The first person to contact me via your Incall app did exactly this - and happens to be someone who made contact with me 12 months ago, and hasn't followed up since. Your app definitely does allow the person to send whatever they want to type. He didn't start with proposed venue, appointment time etc. He just started chatting as anyone can do via text, or any other message system. ::)

I can also see the sender's phone number, and they can see mine so I'm baffled as to what the benefit is over normal phone, email or text messaging is. ???
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 04 July 2017, 05:48:39 pm
Err yes it does! The first person to contact me via your Incall app did exactly this ...
I can also see the sender's phone number, and they can see mine so I'm baffled as to what the benefit is over normal phone, email or text messaging is. ???

Dear Mirror,
I can't believe this. But I suggest you have setup Telegram messenger on your smartphone, your dear timewaster has Telegram messenger too, and he has your phone number in his address book. Of course he is able to text you like in any other messenger: WhatsApp. FB, Viber. So sad, but if somebody already knows your number it is hard to prevent him disturb you. But INCALL let you don't publish the number on the Internet and stay connected with the audience.


Mirror, please be a bit more attentive. To start with INCALL you need start chatting with @incallbot inside Telegram. Once you have signed up, please send message to support inside INCALL and they send you test client request. You will see INCALL in action.

Mirror, thank you for attention to our service.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 04 July 2017, 06:22:22 pm
Another example of someone looking to make money from escorts by taking something simple and turning it into something complicated.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 04 July 2017, 06:41:30 pm
Another example of someone looking to make money from escorts by taking something simple and turning it into something complicated.

So far there aren't any charges, unsure how they currently make any money.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 04 July 2017, 07:19:01 pm
So far there aren't any charges, unsure how they currently make any money.
If they aren't charging escorts directly they could be charging punters or have advertising on the app. Nobody does this for nothing.
So a question to the OP how do you make money from this app?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Kay on 04 July 2017, 09:25:40 pm
I'm completely baffled as to what they're actually offering and what the point of it is...
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 04 July 2017, 09:28:40 pm
I'm completely baffled as to what they're actually offering and what the point of it is...

The person who made contact said he liked it because the messaging is encrypted, no one can look into it.

I guess it's like another What'sapp.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 04 July 2017, 10:44:14 pm
I'm completely baffled as to what they're actually offering and what the point of it is...
You and me both Kay lol
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Licketysplitz on 05 July 2017, 03:09:27 am
My God it all seems so complicated doesn't it! Who could be arsed to be honest? It doesn't appear to make life/work any safer or less time consuming! These people with their crazy money making schemes hiding under the pretence of improving our safety and peace of mind!
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 06:51:33 am
Ah I see now. The person wasn't using Incall, he was just using Telegram and recognised me.

So having telegram means I could get anyone who's got my work number, and who also has Telegram making contact?I've uploaded the app to my personal phone, because my work phone wouldn't be compatible. Obviously used my work number to register the account. So now I can expect messages on there from clients who have my work number, and also have Telegram.

Great.

I've sent a message to 'Support'. At first they kept asking what my question was, now they've told me to wait. That was 19 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 08:39:45 am
So I'm still waiting almost 2 hours later.

My other question is this, regards safety, am I right in thinking that the messages can't be read or traced by anyone? Just like WhatsApp? So if I've used your system and a crime occurs, or I disappear the authorities cannot obtain any information from the messages on Incall or Telegram?

If so then that's a big reason I wouldn't use it. Text messages and phone data can be really useful in tracking criminals, it helped the police solve a crime against me.

I kept thinking about why the person who contacted me on Telegram yesterday would use that when he has a perfectly usable AW account, and telephone which uses text messaging. His comment of not being 'listened to', the encryption stuck in my head. I've done some Googling about the app this morning and suddenly realised the implications.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 01:38:28 pm
An sample client enquiry has now been sent to me.

It reads "ask for Incall Tomorrow before 12pm"

I'll let the other members here decide what they think if that is what to expect your system to produce. In essence not bad, but........................
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 05 July 2017, 02:00:36 pm
Mirror and ladies,
First of all, about safety which is most important...

Yes, Telegram is outstanding secure messenger with all consequences you have mentioned, except following...
I don't recommend you to use Telegram directly to communicate for your business purposes. I suggest you to use INCALL that lives inside Telegram. It is a bit hard to explain, because it is smth new. Just try it for yourself.

INCALL is a very specific service for adults and we understand the risks of your business and we want to keep everyone in safety, and also prevent human trafficking and exploitation of minors. Unfortunately, we unable to warranty anything. But definitely we are open to the authorities and ready to help in these horrible cases.

What INCALL offers for safety rather than todays directories and Web is that your photos and phone number are not publicly available on the Internet. Moreover, you can share your phone number only by request. At the same time, you can receive requests with comfort that todays messengers give. And the last one you are able to change your work phone number keeping contact with existing clients.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: amy on 05 July 2017, 02:14:35 pm
What INCALL offers for safety rather than todays directories and Web is that your photos and phone number are not publicly available on the Internet.

Please explain, specifically and in detail, how this in itself makes us safer. Especially given that most of us spend a fair bit of time making sure that our photos and contact details are easily available on the internet.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 02:20:13 pm
Please explain, specifically and in detail, how this in itself makes us safer. Especially given that most of us spend a fair bit of time making sure that our photos and contact details are easily available on the internet.

In a roundabout way I know what they are getting it, for some who don't want publicly viewable details on the internet, I can see how that would work. They would however only have a small pool of potential clients to choose from, being those who (a) have Telegram app and (b) who know about Incall, and sign up to it.

However, for those of us who advertise openly on the internet, it can be a waste of time.

It's also worth knowing that apparently being on Telegram means you are open to unsolicited messages from anyone using it who already has your work number.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 05 July 2017, 02:44:45 pm
What we are offering?

In most cases web directories are not enough pretty well when open it on smartphones. To choose a lust companion and contact her on smartphone is really tricky. But both punters and ladies have smartphones in their pockets. Hmm....

With INCALL we offer smth better. It gives usability for punters while choosing companion and "messenger style" connection between users.
Dear ladies, please understand INCALL is NOT regular messenger with all its issues. And it is not replacement for phone to screening.

Also INCALL allows to rate your experience after rendezvous. We have investigated all negatives about ratings/reviews and our team believe we have implemented a much better rating which you'll like.


So a question to the OP how do you make money from this app?

We are going to charge you girls. Therefore, I'm here. Nowhere stated that INCALL is free. INCALL IS PAID PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.

But INCALL will be free until it becomes really useful for you and you'll prefer to pay to keep INCALL live and give the margin to its owners.
For now we are well funded and we are going to do business honest and big. Everything is simple.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 05 July 2017, 02:54:53 pm
So the point of all this faffing around it is to hide our details on the net? Surely that's backward considering lots of escorts spend hundreds of pounds a month advertising themselves and their services on the same net?
Nowadays we have the internet, we have mobile phones, emails, free directories, paid directories, our own websites, contact mags and so on to get ourselves noticed by punters who know where to go to use these tools in order to find us.

Why would we be interested?
Is it me?
Am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 02:56:46 pm
So the point of all this faffing around it is to hide our details on the net? Surely that's backward considering lots of escorts spend hundreds of pounds a month advertising themselves and their services on the same net?
Nowadays we have the internet, we have mobile phones, emails, free directories, paid directories, our own websites, contact mags and so on to get ourselves noticed by punters who know where to go to use these tools in order to find us.

Why would we be interested?
Is it me?
Am I missing something here?

And someone like me who can't "pay attention" gets it all wrong.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 05 July 2017, 03:11:59 pm
In a roundabout way I know what they are getting it, for some who don't want publicly viewable details on the internet, I can see how that would work. They would however only have a small pool of potential clients to choose from, being those who (a) have Telegram app and (b) who know about Incall, and sign up to it.

Mirror, you are right for now  ;)

However, for those of us who advertise openly on the internet, it can be a waste of time.
There is a right time for each thing. 15 years ago creating twitter account and personal web site was a waste of time for most of you ladies.

It's also worth knowing that apparently being on Telegram means you are open to unsolicited messages from anyone using it who already has your work number.
Mirror,  you don't need to setup Telegram to become open to unsolicited messages from anyone who already has your work number. But with INCALL you will don't need to publish your phone number on Internet in the future.

Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 05 July 2017, 03:28:36 pm
Ladies,

I understand all your scepticism about INCALL. It is not well promoted service yet.
But, could you please give me an example of free or paid directory which i can use on smartphone with pleasure.

The Second question is. Are reviews are useful for your business reputation?

And one more. How is helpful Warnings & Wasters section on this site? Can it be improved to be usable on smartphone?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 05 July 2017, 03:37:44 pm
And someone like me who can't "pay attention" gets it all wrong.
You've paid a lot more attention than I have Mirror lol I don't understand top nor tail of it..at least you've tried, so do you think you would use it in future?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 05 July 2017, 03:50:31 pm
So the point of all this faffing around it is to hide our details on the net? Surely that's backward considering lots of escorts spend hundreds of pounds a month advertising themselves and their services on the same net?
But there a lot of ladies who prefer to work with agencies and not to be published on Internet.

Nowadays we have the internet, we have mobile phones, emails, free directories, paid directories, our own websites, contact mags and so on to get ourselves noticed by punters who know where to go to use these tools in order to find us.
Why would we be interested?
Is it me?
Am I missing something here?

Helen, there are no messengers in this long list. But messengers are very popular today and its user base is growing fast. Please visit our website and click [Learn more] to get proof.
INCALL is not a full replacement for what you have today. INCALL do some things better and it is the new ability for you.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Kay on 05 July 2017, 05:10:15 pm
Yep, still baffled.

Also, a lot of men have punting phones that are not smart - just like my own work phone!
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 05:55:54 pm
You've paid a lot more attention than I have Mirror lol I don't understand top nor tail of it..at least you've tried, so do you think you would use it in future?

It's on my phone just incase I get an enquiry through Incall.

So far I've not actually had any enquiries from the 'Incall' facility. The one I did get was a punter who simply had the Telegram software installed, and noticed I'd just put it on.

Might be easier to think of it as WhatsApp or blackberry messenger, or MSN messenger if you remember that. Incall is a sort of private group chat within that system.

I'm wondering where charges will apply.

Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 05 July 2017, 06:28:18 pm
But, could you please give me an example of free or paid directory which i can use on smartphone with pleasure.

Adultwork, My Local Escorts, UK Adultzone and Select an Escort all have fully responsive websites. AW even have their own app.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 05 July 2017, 06:31:03 pm
Can you state your current userbase of "hobbyists"?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 05 July 2017, 06:33:41 pm
Adultwork, My Local Escorts, UK Adultzone and Select an Escort all have fully responsive websites. AW even have their own app.

Various forums too, to be honest direct email or phone call is easiest. I find it difficult to track messages via different systems, and some punters will message one day using one, next day using a different method then a 3rd or 4th.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 05 July 2017, 09:46:49 pm
These agencies you mentioned mostly advertise on the internet and have their own websites which these ladies are advertised on...they wouldn't get much work otherwise!
The ladies who 'work' with these agencies are not independent and so they would not be communicating with the clients on your app anyway,that would be the agency representative.
Sorry but you aren't making any sense.
Sex workers or their agencies have to advertise somewhere and all will advertise mostly on the internet or they wouldn't get any work.
Your site is just another way of getting work it doesn't replace any existing means and I can't see any extra advantage to it.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 06 July 2017, 12:46:11 pm
Adultwork, My Local Escorts, UK Adultzone and Select an Escort all have fully responsive websites. AW even have their own app.

AW is the leader today, but it is not ideal.
Just become a punter for a few minutes and try to find an appropriate lady using these sites on a smartphone. Before INCALL we have tried 50+ web directories on smartphones to find and request appropriate lady with few mandatory parameters. Definitely it is really tricky. Each of you can experiment with your favorite site and try to find yourself on a smartphone.

The other important drawback of todays directories is VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs that prevent punters to make a choice on small smartphone screens. INCALL has a better alternative to VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs that doesn't require money from you and doesn't annoying punters.

Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 06 July 2017, 04:42:24 pm
AW is the leader today, but it is not ideal.
Just become a punter for a few minutes and try to find an appropriate lady using these sites on a smartphone. Before INCALL we have tried 50+ web directories on smartphones to find and request appropriate lady with few mandatory parameters. Definitely it is really tricky. Each of you can experiment with your favorite site and try to find yourself on a smartphone.

The other important drawback of todays directories is VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs that prevent punters to make a choice on small smartphone screens. INCALL has a better alternative to VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs that doesn't require money from you and doesn't annoying punters.
So I will ask again HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY FROM THIS APP?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Aqua Allegoria on 08 July 2017, 11:10:25 am
Hi again Lary,
As to Incall being SIMPLE I got a massive headache just from reading the thread. And I'm not too dumb. I can tell you that other ladies participating in the thread here are not dumb either:)

And still I just don't get half of what is being said here because it just doesn't make much sense, it keeps turning round and round over and over again ... (besides "punters" please, why do you want to keep calling clients "hobbyists" while expecting to have UK-based escorts pay for using your app?). It's just all too messy for my taste.

I'm out before even looking into your app. Shame really.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 08 July 2017, 11:19:26 am
I'm awaiting my first enquiry inside the app.  :D
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 11 July 2017, 11:57:03 am
... besides "punters" please, why do you want to keep calling clients "hobbyists" while expecting to have UK-based escorts pay for using your app?

Hello Aqua,
 I have already answered about "hobbyist" vs "punter". Please find the answer above.
I'm sure there are other more interesting and important questions about subj.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 11 July 2017, 12:06:09 pm
So I will ask again HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR MONEY FROM THIS APP?

We are going to charge our users. I could don't publish details about pricing for now. But I definitely state that:
1. We have no VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs and pricing is not based on profile place.
2. Our prices will be competitive with other directories and ads sites.

We are sure that VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs is the out-of-date and brings harm to escort ads.
Now you have enough time to use it for free while INCALL is raising up ;)
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: amy on 11 July 2017, 12:08:52 pm
What exactly is a CARUSEL, and why should a lack of them be a good or bad thing? ???
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 11 July 2017, 12:20:21 pm
INCALL team has considered an incident with Mirror, when she has got a message in Telegram from one of the contacts she has texted before. And our recommendations are:

1. Setup Telegram on your work smartphone or personal smartphone depends on your preference.
2. While registering in Telegram, please use your personal number ONLY. No INCALL staff nor INCALL users are able to get it until you inform anyone about it.
This prohibits you from direct messages in Telegram from punter/waster you are contacted via phone.
3. While using INCALL and answer punter's request you should provide work number for screening and voice calls.


And some important notes:
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 11 July 2017, 12:32:32 pm
What exactly is a CARUSEL, and why should a lack of them be a good or bad thing? ???

"carusel" is usually top part of site where only promoted profiles are shown and its rotated from time to time. This feature has came from ad boards.  On smartphone screens it is harm and we have reimagined it and INCALL provide better opportunity.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 11 July 2017, 01:11:56 pm
INCALL team has considered an incident with Mirror, when she has got a message in Telegram from one of the contacts she has texted before. And our recommendations are:

1. Setup Telegram on your work smartphone or personal smartphone depends on your preference.
2. While registering in Telegram, please use your personal number ONLY. No INCALL staff nor INCALL users are able to get it until you inform anyone about it.
This prohibits you from direct messages in Telegram from punter/waster you are contacted via phone.
3. While using INCALL and answer punter's request you should provide work number for screening and voice calls.


And some important notes:
  • To hide INCALL on your personal/work smartphone, you just need to delete INCALL chat inside Telegram - two taps operation. To get it back, find INCALL again in global contacts search and start new chat
  • When you have no your working device, INCALL on your personal smartphone is an opportunity to stay connected with your business and a good tool to avoid missing requests.
  • With INCALL you can easily make a clear for punter that you are able to answer only in at some period of time: an hour, a day, etc. This option taken into account while punter search profiles. As a result, it is better profiles ordering than with todays directories.

There is no way I'm registering with my personal phone number, my personal phone number is never associated with sex work sites. I don't care if you never reveal it, I'm just not prepared to do that there's too much scope for getting mixed up and it then impinging on my private life.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 11 July 2017, 01:56:27 pm
We are going to charge our users. I could don't publish details about pricing for now. But I definitely state that:
1. We have no VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs and pricing is not based on profile place.
2. Our prices will be competitive with other directories and ads sites.

We are sure that VIP-FEATURED-NEW-CARUSELs is the out-of-date and brings harm to escort ads.
Now you have enough time to use it for free while INCALL is raising up ;)
When you say you are going to charge your 'users' do you mean punters, escorts or both? I think you should put any charges in here now and tell us exactly who you are going to charge, how much you are going to charge and how you are expecting to get payment...
Its all well and good giving us lots of confusing instructions on how to install it but its all useless information until you give us the full details.
P.S. I for one don't pay for advertising.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Kay on 11 July 2017, 01:59:04 pm
"carusel" is usually top part of site where only promoted profiles are shown and its rotated from time to time. This feature has came from ad boards.  On smartphone screens it is harm and we have reimagined it and INCALL provide better opportunity.

Do you mean a carousel?

And why on Earth would we register using our personal numbers?  ???
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Aqua Allegoria on 11 July 2017, 02:02:43 pm
Hello Aqua,
 I have already answered about "hobbyist" vs "punter". Please find the answer above.
I'm sure there are other more interesting and important questions about subj.

Hello again Lary,

And thank you for your slightly patronising reply.
But yes. It so happens that there are more "interesting and important questions".
Page 1 of this thread I asked you to explain what you called barrier for timewasters. I originally put it in bolds just because it seemed really important.

I'm still awaiting your answer...?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Aqua Allegoria on 11 July 2017, 02:06:54 pm
Do you mean a carousel?

And why on Earth would we register using our personal numbers?  ???

Good point :) Im sure that's the one.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lucie268 on 11 July 2017, 02:40:54 pm
I really don't see why you think it's an advantage for us to hide our numbers? We want our numbers to be visible to get phone calls... that's kind of the entire point...
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: BibiofLeeds on 11 July 2017, 03:01:34 pm
Hello Aqua,
 I have already answered about "hobbyist" vs "punter". Please find the answer above.
I'm sure there are other more interesting and important questions about subj.
I'm sure you don't need to tell our members what they can and can't post.You are here to try and sell us your new and wonderful idea and we can question whatever we want without being told to be more attentive like you did to another member or being told that there are more interesting and important questions to ask.
You are rude and not paying any heed as to what experienced sex workers (part of your target market)are trying to tell you.
You didn't answer the question regarding hobbyists,you just said YOU prefer that term.
Everybody who actually knows a little about sex work will tell you that it's not a widely used or popular term in the UK.
Most of us refer to them as clients or punters.A hobbyist is someone who goes train spotting or stamp collecting!
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 12 July 2017, 02:44:06 pm
"carusel" is usually top part of site where only promoted profiles are shown and its rotated from time to time. This feature has came from ad boards.  On smartphone screens it is harm and we have reimagined it and INCALL provide better opportunity.

Sorry for typo. You are right, of course
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 12 July 2017, 02:51:19 pm
There is no way I'm registering with my personal phone number, my personal phone number is never associated with sex work sites. I don't care if you never reveal it, I'm just not prepared to do that there's too much scope for getting mixed up and it then impinging on my private life.

I suggest to register using a personal number in Telegram. It is just the messenger. INCALL doesn't know this phone number. To avoid mixing ,you can setup Telegram on your working smartphone, but register with your personal number.

It is like you register in WhatsApp and then change SIM card in your smartphone with another number.


Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 12 July 2017, 02:54:35 pm
When you say you are going to charge your 'users' do you mean punters, escorts or both? I think you should put any charges in here now and tell us exactly who you are going to charge, how much you are going to charge and how you are expecting to get payment...
Its all well and good giving us lots of confusing instructions on how to install it but its all useless information until you give us the full details.
P.S. I for one don't pay for advertising.

Hi Helen,
Thank you for your interest. Sorry, but I can't share this information on any internet site before the official announcement.  Unfortunately, I can't PM reply to you. So please send your request to email from our website. I'll give you more details
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 12 July 2017, 10:38:42 pm
I suggest to register using a personal number in Telegram. It is just the messenger. INCALL doesn't know this phone number. To avoid mixing ,you can setup Telegram on your working smartphone, but register with your personal number.

It is like you register in WhatsApp and then change SIM card in your smartphone with another number.
This is the most complicated/ vague/bizarre/unworkable/dangerous brain fart I've ever encountered. I would never connect my private number to my escorting persona. You know it never ceases to amaze me how people who have no idea about whats important in this business keep popping up with their money making theories of what we need to improve our business when basically they don't have a fucking clue and are only interested in ways of making money from us and/or our punters.
Larry IMO you don't have a hope in hell of making this work and I personally hope you don't make a penny profit. 
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Aqua Allegoria on 12 July 2017, 10:48:55 pm
This is the most complicated/ vague/bizarre/unworkable/dangerous brain fart I've ever encountered. I would never connect my private number to my escorting persona. You know it never ceases to amaze me how people who have no idea about whats important in this business keep popping up with their money making theories of what we need to improve our business when basically they don't have a fucking clue and are only interested in ways of making money from us and/or our punters.
Larry IMO you don't have a hope in hell of making this work and I personally hope you don't make a penny profit.

+1
Registering somewhere with my personal number is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. It's just fucking hilarious! Why not sign with my real name as well :FF
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 12 July 2017, 10:54:01 pm
+1
Registering somewhere with my personal number is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. It's just fucking hilarious! Why not sign with my real name as well :FF
Isnt that the truth.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: lillybliss on 13 July 2017, 06:21:44 am
 ???  ::) I'm extremely confused, why do these people even bother, and sorry but using our personal number? most of us tend to want to keep our work life and personal life separate  ::)
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 13 July 2017, 09:05:35 pm
It seems a bit complicated where border between work and personal life in this case.
Anyone can find Telegram messenger in the App Store or Google Play, read description of this app and setup it on your device.
Telegram absolutely is not affiliated with INCALL.

This helps to understand that my suggestion absolutely doesn't violate your privacy.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 13 July 2017, 09:14:56 pm
Hello again Lary,

And thank you for your slightly patronising reply.
But yes. It so happens that there are more "interesting and important questions".
Page 1 of this thread I asked you to explain what you called barrier for timewasters. I originally put it in bolds just because it seemed really important.

I'm still awaiting your answer...?

To communicate with lady via INCALL hobbyist should start with request and specify proposed venue and time of appointment. So lady knows what she will talking about. INCALL doesn't allow unpredictable "Hello bla-bla" from strangers.

And next most important are reviews. Ladies are able to rate hobbyist with easy and see reviews of particular hobbyist before answer.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Lary on 13 July 2017, 09:21:03 pm
I really don't see why you think it's an advantage for us to hide our numbers? We want our numbers to be visible to get phone calls... that's kind of the entire point...

With INCALL you can do the both: publish your phone number within profile or send by request.
This is your choice.

And i suppose that the second is proffered particularly for parttime escorts.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: VoluptuousCurves on 14 July 2017, 12:30:31 pm
And i suppose that the second is proffered particularly for parttime escorts.

Yes, it's all about supposing and guessing, isn't it, because you have zero experience of being a sex worker.

Your arrogance would be breath-taking if I hadn't seen similar from dozens of other know-nothings who think they can make a quick profit off the back of hard working businesswomen, making assumptions that we are a bunch of ditzy "ladies" who are just waiting for you to kindly come along with your ridiculously over-complicated "solution" to a non-existent problem.

In the immortal words of Hot Fuzz, "jog on"  :P
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Mirror on 14 July 2017, 12:39:43 pm
I am 'part-time'  :o it doesn't make any difference.

I'm still awaiting my first Incall enquiry. Nothing at all yet.
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: hippydippy on 14 July 2017, 01:53:53 pm
In the immortal words of Hot Fuzz, "jog on"  :P

 ;D cracked me up  ;D
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: Aqua Allegoria on 14 July 2017, 07:54:55 pm
I am 'part-time'  :o it doesn't make any difference.

I'm still awaiting my first Incall enquiry. Nothing at all yet.

Well, I would suggest calling their Customer Service through Telegram. File a complaint maybe? Lol.
Make sure you use your personal number so they can identify you straightaway in order to offer the best solution to your problem :)
Alternatively there's VC's suggestion of them jogging off and us just making our money the best way we make it: by ourselves :)

Back on the planet earth though, how come this one hasn't got locked yet? Quite an amazing waste of time for all of us, am I the only one thinking this (out loud)?
Title: Re: Incall for hobbyists and ladies
Post by: mature helen on 14 July 2017, 07:58:03 pm
Well, I would suggest calling their Customer Service through Telegram. File a complaint maybe? Lol.
Make sure you use your personal number so they can identify you straightaway in order to offer the best solution to your problem :)
Alternatively there's VC's suggestion of them jogging off and us just making our money the best way we make it: by ourselves :)

Back on the planet earth though, how come this one hasn't got locked yet? Quite an amazing waste of time for all of us, am I the only one thinking this (out loud)?
You are not alone AA.