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Re: How Not To Run A Directory Case Study 2: randyescorts.com
« Reply #15 on: 05 August 2012, 03:21:17 pm »
There is no way to please everyone I guess. There will be an email sent out to all escortmonster users asking if they want to migrate their details or listings to the new website. We wont be settling on one website - the whole point of marketing is to have the info on as many websites as possible. That is why we have purchased a number of websites at this point and will clone the info on them if people choose to do so. We are not working on one website! instead we own 12 at this moment and all of them are being linked to over a 1000 different directories. That is something that we have invested in and paying for at this moment - in a short time when you search for escorts in the uk our website will be listed in the top search results.

You see that way your profiles will be listed in the top search results as well - an example search on google might look like "escorts in newcastle" the way our directory is set up is that it allows for that and google sitemap tool will link and display newcastle escorts.

You can use this tool if you like... its free so stop complaining!!! We are not getting any money out of it at all!!! The only way we will make money out of it is if we sell the site in years to come or if there is a buyer willing to pay for it sooner and the price is fair we will sell it again and create more websites!!! It doesn't get any more simple.

On another note and this is for people that don't want listings on randyescorts or any of our websites - we have/are creating a crawler that will scan and copy escort listings and sites and create profiles for them on our directory if you don't want our web crawler to access your information add a meta tag to your websites that will prevent our bot from listing your website here is the tag you need to place. <meta name="sexyhexybot" content="noindex">  sexyhexybot is the name of the bot that will index your sites... google does the same thing and if you for some reason want to block google from indexing your site you can add this tag <meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">
« Last Edit: 05 August 2012, 03:35:01 pm by randyescorts »

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« Reply #16 on: 05 August 2012, 03:31:07 pm »
You can use this tool if you like... its free so stop complaining!!!

I personally think their marketing could be a little snappier ;D.

Since I'd never advertise anywhere with such a stupid name it makes no odds to me.

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« Reply #17 on: 05 August 2012, 03:41:09 pm »
You can use this tool if you like... its free so stop complaining!!!

I personally think their marketing could be a little snappier ;D.

Since I'd never advertise anywhere with such a stupid name it makes no odds to me.

I admit that escortmonster was not the best name - randyescorts is a lot closer to what the actual business is randy/horny same thing whatever... I do not know if the word randy is used in the UK but it is used extensively in the USA to prove that you can do a google word search. However a name of the website is not everything the best way to get any name out is by having the most amount of links to the website as possible and that is what we are focusing on.... if we wanted to we could name a site !?$%"?$".com and it wouldn't make much of a difference. Because we are still going to link the site to thousands more.

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« Reply #18 on: 05 August 2012, 04:04:13 pm »


I admit that escortmonster was not the best name - randyescorts is a lot closer to what the actual business is randy/horny same thing whatever... I do not know if the word randy is used in the UK but it is used extensively in the USA to prove that you can do a google word search. However a name of the website is not everything the best way to get any name out is by having the most amount of links to the website as possible and that is what we are focusing on.... if we wanted to we could name a site !?$%"?$".com and it wouldn't make much of a difference. Because we are still going to link the site to thousands more.

Nice to know that you know your market so well  ::)


On another note and this is for people that don't want listings on randyescorts or any of our websites - we have/are creating a crawler that will scan and copy escort listings and sites and create profiles for them on our directory if you don't want our web crawler to access your information add a meta tag to your websites that will prevent our bot from listing your website here is the tag you need to place. <meta name="sexyhexybot" content="noindex">  sexyhexybot is the name of the bot that will index your sites... google does the same thing and if you for some reason want to block google from indexing your site you can add this tag <meta name="googlebot" content="noindex">

So you use girl's information without prior permission? This just get's better  :FF
But it's ok because some girls may read SAAFE and can spend their time adjusting all of their marketing so they can opt out. Fantastic.

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« Reply #19 on: 05 August 2012, 04:09:49 pm »
That is absolutely disgusting.  You expect us to be happy with the fact you have a bot that will steal our details and if we dont like it we can change all our sites.  WHat about those thst do not read this site.  You think it is ok to steal their details.  I will not be changing my site at all but I can tell you now if you steal my details, all of which are subject to copyright then I will take whatever action is open to me and I am sure lots of other women will do the same.

My name, text and photos are only to appear on sites I have chosen them to appear on.  It really sounds as if you need to rethink this idea and perhaps get a little legal advice about the use of copyright materials without consent.  It is one thing to list a link to someones site without permission but it is another completely to steal their details and make a profile with all their copyright info on them. 

Do you really think any escort will advertise with you now after you have stated you will be stealing their details anyway?  Really not the best way to get customers is it??? 
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« Reply #20 on: 05 August 2012, 04:33:33 pm »
That is absolutely disgusting.  You expect us to be happy with the fact you have a bot that will steal our details and if we dont like it we can change all our sites.  WHat about those thst do not read this site.  You think it is ok to steal their details.  I will not be changing my site at all but I can tell you now if you steal my details, all of which are subject to copyright then I will take whatever action is open to me and I am sure lots of other women will do the same.

My name, text and photos are only to appear on sites I have chosen them to appear on.  It really sounds as if you need to rethink this idea and perhaps get a little legal advice about the use of copyright materials without consent.  It is one thing to list a link to someones site without permission but it is another completely to steal their details and make a profile with all their copyright info on them. 

Do you really think any escort will advertise with you now after you have stated you will be stealing their details anyway?  Really not the best way to get customers is it???


Have you asked google to stop crawling through your website? NO... ok so what is your point? We are doing exactly what they are doing - you think search engines only link to your website? Sorry to inform you but your website has bin copied a number of times over and over and over and over again... We are more then free to link to any website we like - we offer you a way to prevent us form linking and you are free to use it if you like?

Here is a link to how google bot works and what it copies....

http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=182072
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« Reply #21 on: 05 August 2012, 04:51:47 pm »
As I said linking is one thing BUT you stated you would copy and list and then make a profile for these escorts.  Sorry but no other site makes a profile for us without our permission.  As I said you would be better off checking copyright laws before going any further.

Listing a link th=o a website is completely different to making a profile using copyright protected data.  I do not eve know why I am bothering to explain this as everyone is quite aware of these laws and you know full well you will be in breach of them but obvioulsy think us escorts are too thick to know any different.  Sorry sweetie but we deal with this type of thing quite often so are fully aware of what is and is not legal when it comes to our own data which we hold copyright to.

Perhaps you should have a quick look on Google yourself as to what is not legal it is quite easy to find even for you.

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« Reply #22 on: 05 August 2012, 05:51:02 pm »
As I said linking is one thing BUT you stated you would copy and list and then make a profile for these escorts.  Sorry but no other site makes a profile for us without our permission.  As I said you would be better off checking copyright laws before going any further.

Listing a link th=o a website is completely different to making a profile using copyright protected data.  I do not eve know why I am bothering to explain this as everyone is quite aware of these laws and you know full well you will be in breach of them but obvioulsy think us escorts are too thick to know any different.  Sorry sweetie but we deal with this type of thing quite often so are fully aware of what is and is not legal when it comes to our own data which we hold copyright to.

Perhaps you should have a quick look on Google yourself as to what is not legal it is quite easy to find even for you.

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Sorry to say but you don't have the full story - it would be perfectly OK for the bot to create profiles because they would be linked to the original website. Much like a review or NEWS website does its business. If we just took the content and didn't specify where we got it from, well that would be braking the law in a number of countries. By adding the no-index to our bot we give you the chance to say no comment.

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory Case Study 2: randyescorts.com
« Reply #23 on: 05 August 2012, 06:38:33 pm »
Bless. RE, have you read this thread at all?

Oh, and if you steal original text or photographs and publish them without the copyright owner's permission, you are breaking the law. You are not a search engine, you are a directory - if you don't understand the difference I suggest you check the UK copyright and intellectual property laws. Whether or not you decide to link to or identify your source is completely irrelevant.

I do strongly suggest you don't steal content from Adultwork. They don't like it.

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« Reply #24 on: 05 August 2012, 10:10:46 pm »
Bless. RE, have you read this thread at all?

Oh, and if you steal original text or photographs and publish them without the copyright owner's permission, you are breaking the law. You are not a search engine, you are a directory - if you don't understand the difference I suggest you check the UK copyright and intellectual property laws. Whether or not you decide to link to or identify your source is completely irrelevant.

I do strongly suggest you don't steal content from Adultwork. They don't like it.

I agree that the UK does have laws against such actions. However our website is based in the USA and we are well in our right to operate it on a Fair Use Policy there for as a directory and escort review website we can report on escorts / agencies and coming soon we are implementing a black listed client and escort section. The blacklisted client/escort section will show usernames and information about clients that are to be avoided for obvious reasons.

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« Reply #25 on: 05 August 2012, 11:07:47 pm »
As I said linking is one thing BUT you stated you would copy and list and then make a profile for these escorts.  Sorry but no other site makes a profile for us without our permission.  As I said you would be better off checking copyright laws before going any further.

Listing a link th=o a website is completely different to making a profile using copyright protected data.  I do not eve know why I am bothering to explain this as everyone is quite aware of these laws and you know full well you will be in breach of them but obvioulsy think us escorts are too thick to know any different.  Sorry sweetie but we deal with this type of thing quite often so are fully aware of what is and is not legal when it comes to our own data which we hold copyright to.

Perhaps you should have a quick look on Google yourself as to what is not legal it is quite easy to find even for you.

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I do not think escorts or anyone in the adult industry is thick and to state that I do actually hurts my feelings - I am actually fascinated by people that choose to become part of the industry and I admire a person that becomes an escort. It's something that I would not be able to do. You know what maybe this is off topic but my mum had to feed her kids somehow!

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« Reply #26 on: 06 August 2012, 12:26:07 am »
Bless. RE, have you read this thread at all?

Oh, and if you steal original text or photographs and publish them without the copyright owner's permission, you are breaking the law. You are not a search engine, you are a directory - if you don't understand the difference I suggest you check the UK copyright and intellectual property laws. Whether or not you decide to link to or identify your source is completely irrelevant.

I do strongly suggest you don't steal content from Adultwork. They don't like it.

I agree that the UK does have laws against such actions. However our website is based in the USA and we are well in our right to operate it on a Fair Use Policy there for as a directory and escort review website we can report on escorts / agencies and coming soon we are implementing a black listed client and escort section. The blacklisted client/escort section will show usernames and information about clients that are to be avoided for obvious reasons.

You are wrong. I am the owner of the images and text on my website. If you steal my content it's copyright theft. C'mon....this is the basic stuff. You should know this! ;D If I'm wrong could you please link to this Fair Use Policy that you'll be using in order to steal our details?

If you still think that copyright theft is perfectly legal please take a look here.

This is taken out of wikipedia ->

A US court case in 2003, Kelly v. Arriba Soft Corporation, provides and develops the relationship between thumbnails, inline linking and fair use. In the lower District Court case on a motion for summary judgment, Arriba Soft was found to have violated copyright without a fair use defense in the use of thumbnail pictures and inline linking from Kelly's website in Arriba's image search engine. That decision was appealed and contested by Internet rights activists such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who argued that it is clearly covered under fair use.
On appeal, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found in favour of the defendant. In reaching its decision, the court utilized the above-mentioned four-factor analysis. Firstly, it found the purpose of creating the thumbnail images as previews to be sufficiently transformative, noting that they were not meant to be viewed at high resolution like the original artwork was. Secondly, the fact that the photographs had already been published diminished the significance of their nature as creative works. Thirdly, although normally making a "full" replication of a copyrighted work may appear to violate copyright, here it was found to be reasonable and necessary in light of the intended use. Lastly, the court found that the market for the original photographs would not be substantially diminished by the creation of the thumbnails. To the contrary, the thumbnail searches could increase exposure of the originals. In looking at all these factors as a whole, the court found that the thumbnails were fair use and remanded the case to the lower court for trial after issuing a revised opinion on July 7, 2003. The remaining issues were resolved with a default judgment after Arriba Soft had experienced significant financial problems and failed to reach a negotiated settlement.
In August 2008 US District Judge Jeremy Fogel of San Jose, California ruled that copyright holders cannot order a deletion of an online file without determining whether that posting reflected "fair use" of the copyrighted material. The case involved Stephanie Lenz, a writer and editor from Gallitzin, Pennsylvania, who made a home video of her thirteen-month-old son dancing to Prince's song Let's Go Crazy and posted the video on YouTube. Four months later, Universal Music, the owner of the copyright to the song, ordered YouTube to remove the video enforcing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Lenz notified YouTube immediately that her video was within the scope of fair use, and demanded that it be restored. YouTube complied after six weeks, not two weeks as required by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Lenz then sued Universal Music in California for her legal costs, claiming the music company had acted in bad faith by ordering removal of a video that represented fair-use of the song.

I am sure if you google fair use policy + internet you will get more stuff - if you want to read a government website here is a link ->

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/

be sure to read all of them and you should get the gist fair use is mentioned as well.

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« Reply #27 on: 06 August 2012, 12:34:53 am »
@D.3 I really liked the link btw... made me giggle  ;D xx

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« Reply #28 on: 06 August 2012, 12:48:51 am »
here is another good link trying to explain fair use/copyright ->

http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/copyright-fair-use-and-how-it-works-for-online-images/

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« Reply #29 on: 06 August 2012, 12:53:38 am »
So if you are going to use our details without permission (regardless of whether we want that or not) why are you bothering to promote your site on this forum?

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