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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #60 on: 31 July 2010, 12:54:16 pm »
Amy, you are a genius!  ;) I saw the photo and at least they looked to good...
He came in the morning and woke me up with killer instinct. Wish I could stop this now.

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #61 on: 31 July 2010, 03:10:00 pm »
The people at Bestcorts are soo rude! I am quite cross. I recieved an email from their webmaster stating and I quote

"Idiot - we have NOT taken your profile, it is a link like any other search results in any other specified search engine.
And take off the CAPS LOCK
Kind Regards Webmaster Bestcorts."  :o

How dare they!  Just so rude!  >:(

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #62 on: 31 July 2010, 09:22:11 pm »
Dear Bescorts, or should that be bestc8nts?

Thank you for your continued interest in our profiles. I daresay we have now boosted your rating on Google, and you are sat in your ivory tower built on being a oblique pimp laughing your socks off.

You are completely right, in some ways. A face and  personal image cannot be copyrighted. In another, the crux, you are completely wrong. If you would like to offer a full retraction, here and signed by you under your full business address, and then offer members a right to publish their details under your group, for free and with no contractual obligation, you will have some trade. There is no need to argue further, open yourselves up to free input and free trade and you will flourish.

Until then, I tip my hat to you.

Lucy x

amy

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #63 on: 31 July 2010, 10:22:30 pm »
Thank you for your continued interest in our profiles. I daresay we have now boosted your rating on Google, and you are sat in your ivory tower built on being a oblique pimp laughing your socks off.

Well as far as I can see, the site's Google Pagerank is still zero. And traffic is meaningless anyway - I daresay anything up to a few thousand extra hits will show for the last few days but since they will be made up almost exclusively of irritated ladies and curious lurkers, it doesn't amount to anything much. Maybe an ivory Portakabin?

You are completely right, in some ways. A face and  personal image cannot be copyrighted.

I don't understand the relevance of this at all - no-one has said that a face can be copyrighted and of course it cannot. Bestcorts have not published faces; they have published digital images which have been created using a specific and provable medium on specific and provable dates, and more often than not by provable persons. They are all categorically copyrighted to their respective creators.

Bestcorts have also lied about where they obtained these images and phone numbers (they are NOT available from Google and this has also been proved), and are using them without the copyright owners permission. There is nothing whatsoever they have been right about.

In another, the crux, you are completely wrong. If you would like to offer a full retraction, here and signed by you under your full business address, and then offer members a right to publish their details under your group, for free and with no contractual obligation, you will have some trade. There is no need to argue further, open yourselves up to free input and free trade and you will flourish.

Lucy I appreciate that there everyone has strong feelings about this, but it is not for you to tell anyone what to do and how to post, and to issue proclaimations like some self-appointed voice of SAAFE is not acceptable. We already have a moderation and administration team, and if anyone is going to give instructions on any members' conduct here, it will be one of us (and frankly, I doubt many other members would use the site now if it the ads came with a years supply of condoms free and a dozen roses).

The realistic chances of this site 'flourishing' I would think is extremely small; given that they have put off a huge number of the people with a solid online presence and not forgetting the number of folk who regularly lurk here and hve been watching him dig himself the biggest hole on here since poor old Ricardo thought he could fool our ladies  ;D. The site's three month Alexa traffic ranking is only slightly ahead of mine, and it was well behind it the other day when I first bumped the thread back. Nobody outside a handful of internet forum users has ever heard of it, and those who have signed up from the spammy email and promptly forgotten all about it will drop off as soon as they try to start charging.

Until then, I tip my hat to you.

Unless that means something different in your part of the world Luce, I think you're probably on your own.

Lucy Chambers

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #64 on: 31 July 2010, 10:51:56 pm »
Completely right Amy. Tip my hat was more intended to mean that well done you for increasing your already dubious profile, and the rest was tongue in cheek.

We are from the same part of the world. Apologies.

Lucy x

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« Reply #65 on: 01 August 2010, 12:10:28 am »
Completely right Amy. Tip my hat was more intended to mean that well done you for increasing your already dubious profile, and the rest was tongue in cheek.

We are from the same part of the world. Apologies.

Lucy x

Fair play. I'd be the first to admit that my sense of humour is wearing thin, and this berk's antics certainly aren't helping. It doesn't appear that our questions are likely to be answered anytime soon though, and I'm going to wait until tomorrow to see whether I've disappeared through removing my number - will report back. It's still in the back of my mind that the whole thing is a joke, tbh.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, I've heard from the AW admins. They're not happy either.

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« Reply #66 on: 01 August 2010, 01:45:20 am »
They never are, but lets face it, how could a direct link to their site be a bad thing? Lets just ignore the silly gobshite.

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« Reply #67 on: 02 August 2010, 08:27:00 pm »
Well removing my number didn't help and I'm still there, along with a lady from West Yorkshire who visited Scarborough for a couple of days about a month ago and has long since returned home. So in conclusion, Bestcorts was talking yet more unmitigated crap (although I've saved two quid  :D).

They never are, but lets face it, how could a direct link to their site be a bad thing? Lets just ignore the silly gobshite.

You obviously have more to do with them than me - I've never been a fan of the site but I've always found my dealings with the admins to go extremely smoothly and all complaints, reports and enquiries have been dealt with promptly and politely. I certainly have never been patronised to within an inch of my life or called an 'idiot' by them, nor for that matter anyone else running any other successful industry advertising resource.

Anyway, looks like show over here for now. Anyone who does manage to get anywhere having their details removed, please keep us all posted.

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« Reply #68 on: 06 August 2010, 08:47:24 pm »
Hello Again

Rather than dignify comments and draw people's attention back to what was actually written, I find patience to be the best remedy.

As I stated before and in some emails responses to some people, we will be implementing a tool on Monday / Tuesday next week, which will allow for people to remove themselves from our links listings.

This will be an SMS tool that will require the relevant person to be in possession of the phone number which appears on our results. As long as the appropriate person can receive an SMS code from us, their profile will be immediately removed, and the number dropped onto a 'do not list' database ensuring that future crawls of any of the sites we visit will mean that the profile will not erroneously be listed once again.

Such coding work takes time.  We are aiming for Monday, probably hit Tuesday - with bugs rooted out by Wednesday.  This is a priority piece of work for us - so please don't expect something sooner as it is physically not possible!

We hope that this will satisfy those who do not wish their links to appear on our site.

PS - if the number is a 'group' number, then we will need to communicate via email in order to ensure that it is an agency decision to withdraw their link rather than one individual.

Finally, we regret that some people consider what we have done as a negative action.

Our intention is to provide Punters what they are seeking, and in due course, provide Escorts an additional alternative platform for advertising.  For those who question it - we have no intention of charging Providers in the UK to have and display a profile . . . !

Regards

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #69 on: 06 August 2010, 11:06:17 pm »
As I stated before and in some emails responses to some people, we will be implementing a tool on Monday / Tuesday next week, which will allow for people to remove themselves from our links listings.

Thank god for that. You're already one-upping half your competition by allowing us poor, dim prossies to at least have a say about which sh*tty directories our sites get listed on without our permission. I absolutely hate this part of the industry. I am sick and tired of douchebags telling me where and when I should be advertising myself - are you the ones sucking the penises? No, so how about you don't try to interfere with escorts' marketing? Can you possibly understand that perhaps I'm already seeing enough clients and don't want creeps from your website calling me? Bear in mind, this isn't anything personal towards you - you are far from the only group of idiots making our lives unnecessarily difficult.

Such coding work takes time.  We are aiming for Monday, probably hit Tuesday - with bugs rooted out by Wednesday.  This is a priority piece of work for us - so please don't expect something sooner as it is physically not possible!

Ridiculously complicated, but I suppose we'll take what we get. How about finishing your site before stealing our details and bothering us unnecessarily next time?

Our intention is to provide Punters what they are seeking, and in due course, provide Escorts an additional alternative platform for advertising.  For those who question it - we have no intention of charging Providers in the UK to have and display a profile . . . !

We really have enough of these sites already. We don't need more forums and directories - spreading the population of active online punters and prossies more thinly doesn't help anyone, it just means we all have to spend more time in the morning faffing on our computers. And new clients may end up even more overwhelmed and confused. But, er, I suppose you believe you know what you're doing.

Thanks! Can we lock this thread yet? :)
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amy

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« Reply #70 on: 06 August 2010, 11:20:33 pm »
Thank f*ck somebody else could be bothered to respond to this cretin. I see that answering the entirely appropriate questions and points raised by us is dismissed as 'dignifying comments' - how droll! Try as I might, I couldn't find any apologies to the ladies who have been insulted amongst the deluded rubbish, but I doubt they were expecting them any more than I was.

Thanks! Can we lock this thread yet? :)

I suggest we leave it until this golden get out is actually working so we can make sure everyone knows about it. Unfortunately this probably means we'll have to endure another heap of patronising drivel from Mr Marvellous, but it'll be worth it to get off their scabby site. I changed my AW photo on Tuesday and lo and behold the new one has appeared on there, so all that crap about Sundays was a little misleading and we've no reason to think this won't be the same.

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« Reply #71 on: 08 August 2010, 09:06:11 pm »
You're welcome.

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« Reply #72 on: 08 August 2010, 11:23:58 pm »
Don't you have some coding to do? Best run along and get on with it, there's a good lad.

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« Reply #73 on: 09 August 2010, 03:47:19 am »
Don't you have some coding to do? Best run along and get on with it, there's a good lad.

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« Reply #74 on: 11 August 2010, 06:22:45 pm »
Wednesday has now progressed to Thursday due to some technical challenges.

Our link removal tool works, however it will now be published onto the live system tomorrow.

Thank you

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