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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #30 on: 30 July 2010, 12:01:33 am »
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Indexing it NOT copyright!

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #31 on: 30 July 2010, 12:03:07 am »
Are you claiming that your site is merely a search engine that indexes adultwork profiles? And then allows people to search them in a way that's far more limited than if they just went adultwork?

Not only AW - several others too . . .

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #32 on: 30 July 2010, 12:04:23 am »
Once again - google LINKS TO THE SITE with the profile, you did only copy&paste, there is nothing even mentioned on your website that is from!adultwork
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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #33 on: 30 July 2010, 12:05:42 am »
Oh come one girls stop messing with this joker and send Go daddy a cease and desist notce re copyright infringement

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #34 on: 30 July 2010, 12:06:13 am »
Once again - google LINKS TO THE SITE with the profile, you did only copy&paste, there is nothing even mentioned on your website that is from!adultwork


Errr . . . .  the link is actually AW !!! Did you miss this.

As a case in point - here is a very basic sample of specified search engine structure:

http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=017132076859526506789:ose0ptr1zky&hl=en

Be sure to click on the link and see for yourself the concept. Often it's easier to demonstrate than to explain.

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #35 on: 30 July 2010, 12:08:13 am »
Oh come one girls stop messing with this joker and send Go daddy a cease and desist notce re copyright infringement

Isn't it easier to run away than admit that in fact you're wrong?

Not sure what GoDaddy have to do with it ??

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #36 on: 30 July 2010, 12:13:33 am »
OK - thank you guys for your contributions.

I will stop back here tomorrow should anyone wish to pick up this conversation.

As I said, genuine concerns - email politely and I'll see what can be done.

Thank you

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #37 on: 30 July 2010, 12:14:57 am »
That you create a search engine does not mean that you can copy&paste profiles from other website! Come on, how simpler can it be to understand? The profile is "a property" of aw only. Indexing means LINKING not copy and paste and pretending that was made on your site.
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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #38 on: 30 July 2010, 12:16:37 am »
Oh come one girls stop messing with this joker and send Go daddy a cease and desist notce re copyright infringement

Isn't it easier to run away than admit that in fact you're wrong?

Not sure what GoDaddy have to do with it ??

So what your saying your server is not on a go daddy owned server i.e NS15.DOMAINCONTROL.COM & NS16.DOMAINCONTROL.COM?

Because tell me if im wrong, Godaddy does infact own domaincontrol.com





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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #39 on: 30 July 2010, 12:17:02 am »
I think the point you are missing is that photos are copyright protected which means they cannot be used by anyone else without prior permission.
If your legal team are telling you different I would personally sack them and find someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
Yes the photos are searchable BUT they are not public domain.
Truth is far more important than what one wants to hear. With truth there is no us and them or colour or religion there is just fact

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #40 on: 30 July 2010, 12:20:47 am »
The link is publically available. The photographs are not. When I searched on Google Images for 'adultwork images adore amy', I got this (and when I did it with adultwork.com etc, I got fewer still, none of them mine).

See my photograph? No, me neither. I want it and my phone number removed from your site (leave the link if you want, I couldn't care less), and it seems that other ladies feel likewise. Is that polite enough for you?

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #41 on: 30 July 2010, 12:31:38 am »
Look here:

Images, most from AW - indexed into Google!!

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1680&bih=868&tbs=isch:1&q=adultwork&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&gs_rfai=&uss=1

If you check, you'll see that those images aren't stored on google's servers, they're hotlinked directly from the sites they appear on, and clicking on them takes you to the relevant pages. Google used to store much smaller thumbnails for its image search but that seems to have gone out with the new site design. Search engines index data so that they can match it to search terms, and show enough in the results for you to decide if it's worth going to the site yourself. If you're merely acting as a search engine in the hopes of driving people to relevant pages, why do you need to include a phone number for every one of your results?

Your site does not act as a search engine. You seem to be implying (though not saying) that you're using google's index to provide information. This isn't the case, and google hasn't indexed any phone numbers from adultwork and certainly doesn't show you a list of them if you search for "escort" or something.

Also, this is not a sentence. I'm not just being picky here, obviously I get the gist (you're right, we're wrong), but I don't actually know what you're trying to say.
Indexing it NOT copyright!

This site provides a simple yet thorough explanation of UK copyright law, which you and anyone who's curious may find useful: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/copy.htm

(Correction: it seems you did actually tell Amy by email, "the result where you appear here is indexed from Google ? and not taken from AW or anywhere else". This is not true. As she's demonstrated, the picture you've taken isn't available in google results. Neither is the phone number she uses on adultwork.)
« Last Edit: 30 July 2010, 12:47:22 am by Anika Mae »

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #42 on: 30 July 2010, 08:43:50 am »
Hi guys,

Thanks for the heads up. My email is being used, but I couldn't find my profile. I have sent a stroppy email demanding they delete it anyway.  >:(

SAAFE you rock!

Thanks for all your hard work. :)

Pinkminx xxx

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #43 on: 30 July 2010, 08:46:11 am »
Oh come one girls stop messing with this joker and send Go daddy a cease and desist notce re copyright infringement

Isn't it easier to run away than admit that in fact you're wrong?

Not sure what GoDaddy have to do with it ??

So what your saying your server is not on a go daddy owned server i.e NS15.DOMAINCONTROL.COM & NS16.DOMAINCONTROL.COM?

Because tell me if im wrong, Godaddy does infact own domaincontrol.com

Yes, I am saying that our server cluster is NOT GoDaddy owned.  The beautiful thing about domain control is that A records and CNAMES can be set simply to point to your servers. Whilst some people choose to set their own Name Servers (NS15 above) - we simply redirect.  This allows for load balancing across different servers and allows us to switch to backup systems by a simply change of IP in the A Record.  It improves efficiency if you intend to use more than one server (called round robin DNS).
You see, we do this professionally, full time - not in some small bedroom with curtains closed. :)

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Re: How Not To Run A Directory - A Case Study
« Reply #44 on: 30 July 2010, 08:57:16 am »
The link is publically available. The photographs are not. When I searched on Google Images for 'adultwork images adore amy', I got this (and when I did it with adultwork.com etc, I got fewer still, none of them mine).

See my photograph? No, me neither. I want it and my phone number removed from your site (leave the link if you want, I couldn't care less), and it seems that other ladies feel likewise. Is that polite enough for you?

I agree... What don't you at Bestescorts not understand? If an escort has asked you not to link her details, photos whatever, have some respect and remove it!

Pinkminx