I just got this back:

You appear on our site only as a result of indexed search results which are
freely available on Google.
 
You do not have a profile on our site.
 
We simply index information that is in the public domain - so if you
successfully remove yourself from search engine results (our 'other results'
is a search engine) - then you will also disappear from our results.
 
Hope this clarifies things!
 
Kind Regards
 
Webmaster - Bestcorts

I don't know anything about internets, so I don't know how to reply to this. Anyone? The photo on their site definitely isn't in google search results, my name and phone number are. Are they telling the truth or just making shit up?

So you lot are the "few choice members of SAAFE" that the boss/webmaster of BE is moaning about on another fourm. 

There is a big thread discussing the site but too long for me to read but the first few posts  agree with you ladies - that is that BE are taking the pee.

He was banging on trying to justify himself on a huge thread on TOP when all this crap first kicked off a couple of months back, so I'm guessing it's that.

There is also a thread on PN from then which was locked, but if the saddo's spitting his dummy out on the forums again I might get in touch with G and see if it's OK to start another one.

Hi

It is usual in a democratic environment to allow people to give an account for their actions.

WebMaster Here from Bestcorts.

It's always interesting to witness mass psychology - jumping on the bandwagon, whatever you choose to call it.

We have received several email emanating from this forum, and so thought we'd reply to clarify something which seems to be avoiding some people.

Lets say for example that we had a profile on our site of you (any of you).  Imagine that you could query our site and find details about you - rates, text defining your activities, etc, multiple images, etc etc . . . . then there would be a case for people being aggrieved.

As it is, we are doing none of this.  Bestcorts have designed a search engine, admittedly nothing like the big ones which you all know, but nevertheless equally as effective as any other within this genre.

Your data is in the public domain - no dispute. Go to Bing, yahoo, Google, Alta Vista, Ask, Lycos, etc, etc - did you actually post your data there?  Or was it picked up by these search engines?  No need to respond as the answer is obvious.

Our site indexes data that is in the public domain, and provides links to them.  If those links are dead, taken down, changed, whatever - our engine equally modifies accordingly.

You see, it is a SEARCH ENGINE tool.

So, to be clear, we are not copying, plagiarizing or otherwise stealing profiles from anywhere. Our site provides a one-stop location for Punters to find (hopefully) what they are looking for.

If you happen to check and find yourself on our site results, take it a step further and find that you actually get referred to the relevant site.

We have had threats of 'contacting your host provider', etc etc - because we are in some way immoral.

Well, we own our server cluster in the data centre and manage our own hosting - so the emails will come to me.

If someone makes a reasoned argument for having their data removed, and our four-day update cycle is not fast enough for you, then get in touch and we will happily do what we can to assist. An example of such urgency may be, you have a new guy, and you're aware his mother is researching you online . . . . OMG - we'll do our bit.  Having said that, your data will still be available on other search engine results . . . .  so it's a real uphill struggle.

Wanted to clarify the position, and happy to take questions (polite of course).  However, please note that as you do NOT have a profile on our site, and it is an indexed search engine link . . . we are unlikely to remove the reference.

Hoping that this reaches more moderate minds!

No, the site is not search engine tool. Search engine links to the site where ad is placed and you made a new profiles for escort. The data from AdultWork.com is copy righted, as well pictrues, telephone numbers, etc. You do not have a right for copying them, cause you don't have any kind of business deal with AW.com. Plus in this thread has been said that a girl change her contact to e-mail only on AW.com but on your website the number was still in the ad, even she never had account there.

Amy, regrettably you are incorrect.

Photos are in the public domain. Different search engines represent this in different ways - due to data storage and page loading algorithms more large search engines exclude them - although they can frequently be found if you were to query specifically images.

The as the link on our site is your AW profile - it will only display sitemap data from that site - including mobile phone number.  I don't now of any search engine that cuts and pastes data from different sources. I wouldn't even know how to do it!

You must understand that your profile is public, and as such has been indexed by for more than just our system.

The issue of TOP is not about nerve. They 'invited' us to give an account of ourselves, which we did.  Yes, some people were irritated to start with, but then understood what we are actually trying to achieve - and applaud it.  You see, as I think I mentioned in my email to you - we do not need to create any income from this site at all. It is a WG-centric product that has numerous security features in-built.

Is it our intention to promote our site, build services that WGs want - sure it is.

I will quite happily consult here with members, should they wish, and listen to comments which are made. However, it needs to be conducted with decorum. Not all requests and suggestions will be followed, but undoubtedly some will. It will be viewed in the wider public interest.

As for copyright - we pay good money to expensive attorneys. We are satisfied that we are not in breach of any laws, regulations or relevant policies. If this is believed to be incorrect - send me a legal opinion and I will hand this up to our counsel to review and respond accordingly. If their opinion concurs with yours, we'll take immediate action to put right.

At present, we are concerned with what Providers (WGs) want in a site - including but not limited to such such phraseology which is automatically rejected from our site . . . .   we are trying to develop something which is more conducive to a professional industry .

Guys

Let me write this and then leave it a while for you guys to consider:

http://www.google.co.uk/#q=site:+adultwork&hl=en&ei=NgZSTL_4MJP00gSfl_ntAg&start=0&sa=N&fp=4da16c650c5b86c8

This link is a simple script for querying the phrase 'adultwork' - notice over 100,000 results alone.

We specify the sites we want to index (yes it is a search tool - and in fact Google even provide a specific code for search engines that want to query only specific sites).

I do not need an 'affiliate' relationship with AdultWork - what for?  In order to get money from them?  It's not of interest.

Do you think Google (see above) has an affiliate relationship with them? Rhetorical of course - the answer is obvious.

As I said, reasoned argument, legal opinions (from qualified lawyers not others), etc are all welcome.  Requests, suggestions, again all welcome.

But, please check your understanding of search engine functions before you persist with your claims . . . .

Here for polite communications!

Quote from: Bestcorts on 29 July 2010, 11:50:43 pm

Photos are in the public domain.

This is the stupidest thing I've heard today. Are you really, honestly expecting anyone to believe that copyright doesn't apply in any way to photographs, or do you not understand what "public domain" means?

Look here:

Images, most from AW - indexed into Google!!

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1680&bih=868&tbs=isch:1&q=adultwork&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&gs_rfai=&uss=1