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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: Honey2014 on 26 August 2014, 01:29:17 pm
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Hello Girls
I am a English escort who has been living in Oz for over a year, coming back to UK briefly and looking for girls interested in a working holiday across Australia.
I have many contacts and reliable clients who love English girls ...
What I've found is that my clients like variety and I am looking to recruit girls interested in workin alongside of me to create the perfect English honeys girlfriend experience!
You can be wanting to come for as little as a few weeks or up to a year.
I can get you ....
Flights paid
Accommodation included
Advertising taken care off
Security / driver if need be
Friendly genuine and caring person working along side of you .....
You need to be between the ages of 18-35
Well groomed
Sociable
Level headed and mature minded
This isn't working for me .... I shall still be working with you I am just looking for a good team who enjoy there work, able to travel and together we can be a great brand servicing the huge clientele over here in Australia.
Drop me an email ... I'll explain more
Xx
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Wow, so you'd do all that for free?
Since you haven't supplied an email address, we can't email you, but either way you might be best explaining further here for us all to read :).
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A quick reminder that working in Australia without the requisite visa is illegal and that prostitution itself is only legal in some states.
A search for 'Australia' will also come up with an instructive story about being detained at the airport for hours on the way out, being questioned about where all the money that had been sent out of the country came from...
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Wow
Some of you are quite quick to bite ....
Well from state to state the laws are actually different ....
I've been here over one year and worked in every state LEGALLY, and yes darling as I stated earlier I am simply posting this to see if there any girls who have ever though about a working holiday in the sunshine, and if they are then contact me ....
I shall include an email at the end of this post.
I'm not really interested in hearing anything negative about what a big bad world it is and people out to get you .... I think we all know that in this industry.
However I have been a very successful escort here in Oz earning over $650 per hour and rather than girls come over and go to the brothels which take 50%
What I am offering is someone showing them how to work, legally and can take them state to state .... Personally.
Or if I get enough girls that would like to tour then I will take a back seat and let the girls work, see clients I advertise arrange tours hotels flights etc, for a fee which me and any girl who is serious about this can discuss personally, without other people who have no interest in actually trying something new, commenting and judging when they know nothing about the industry here.
Anyway ladies ....
Contact english_honeys3@live.co.uk
If you are serious about a working holiday in which I can assure you will earn you lots of $$
Xx
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Hence the use of the word 'some'.
The ads say you were charging 400 to 500 AUD an hour*.
I will take a back seat and let the girls work
Well, that's nice. Even in NSW, pimping is illegal.
As ever in this section, the best advice is stop digging or you'll be back in Australia before very long.
* ?225 to ?280 for anyone not up on what the exchange rate is at the moment, but check Australian prices to see just what that actually buys... some things are much more expensive there than here.
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I would hardly call myself a pimp!
I imagine most girls when they go somewhere new would like advice, guidance and assistance helping them know where to go and what to do with regards working smartly and effectively to reap the benefits.
Now I have various rates depending where I go, and my minimum earn to myself is $450 and top is $650 however contacts I have will pay anything up to $800 for an hours company.
Again, if you are not interested and just want to BITE please don't respond.
It's up to the girls who are interested in something new and we can chat when I arrive in England next week, with me I will have all info on what's legal and what's not regards different states should they wish to read up.
I am
Not a pimp or a bad person hunting for victims in am simply after a couple of great girls up for earning good money, and adventure.
Simple as that really.
Check out Demi Sydney elite escorts and you'll see there $600 but they are agency and take a cut .... I wouldn't take as much as what they take ... However I know how to advertise what works and what doesn't so id like to put that to good use, is that not what this forum is for??
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I would hardly call myself a pimp!
That's what they all say, but what you're suggesting is you making money off someone else's sex work.
Now I have various rates depending where I go, and my minimum earn to myself is $450
The ad in Adelaide less than a fortnight ago reckons that one hour was $400 - was that you or someone working for you?
Check out Demi Sydney elite escorts and you'll see there $600 but they are agency and take a cut .... I wouldn't take as much as what they take ... However I know how to advertise what works and what doesn't so id like to put that to good use, is that not what this forum is for??
It's for 'support and advice', and sometimes the advice is BEWARE. This section exists because if it didn't, the pimps would post in the other ones.
Again, if you are not interested and just want to BITE please don't respond.
Well, there's a never-ending stream of people wanting to make money off someone else's sex work and as an all-volunteer mod team, we see pointing some of this out as a duty. Time spent doing this could be spent being paid to have sex or watching horror films - or indeed both - so it's good that it livens up our day too.
You can say that you 'just want to help' but ultimately, you're looking to make money off some young women far from home having sex with strange men. We don't say that all pimps are bad people and you're not the worst, but...
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I could be wrong about this, I mean it's a while since I looked but can't you only get a working holiday visa if you are 18-30yrs old?.
After that I am sure if you are going there to work you need to already have a job lined up and I'm guessing prostitution doesn't count or you have to have the funds to support yourself while there.
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No, that's still 18-30.
immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/417.aspx also makes it very clear that working for the same 'business or organisation for which you are working directly' for more than six months isn't allowed either.
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No, that's still 18-30.
immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/417.aspx also makes it very clear that working for the same 'business or organisation for which you are working directly' for more than six months isn't allowed either.
Yeah that's what I thought.
Wow so not only is the Op talking about breaking the law herself in regards to the whole pimp thing, she expects others to as well.
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Again, if you are not interested and just want to BITE please don't respond.
Well, there's a never-ending stream of people wanting to make money off someone else's sex work and as an all-volunteer mod team, we see pointing some of this out as a duty. Time spent doing this could be spent being paid to have sex or watching horror films - or indeed both - so it's good that it livens up our day too.
You can say that you 'just want to help' but ultimately, you're looking to make money off some young women far from home having sex with strange men. We don't say that all pimps are bad people and you're not the worst, but...
I guess honey missed the moderator part under your name :)
Helping someone without any gain is one, helping someone and expecting a fee is called pimping.
No matter what you call it, its still pimping.
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I guess you are expecting too much. 600 price can be good, but I did rather go 250 and get 5 clients than having to wait for one for 600. Can you guaranty those girls that they will have lots clients for the price or they will hae to sit and wait for the one?
I would really shut it up with the pimping story. It's just you could put it on every topic and 100's of girls are working for agency which is also pimping. Really, give a peace of mind with it!
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What I am offering is someone showing them how to work, legally and can take them state to state .... Personally.
Or if I get enough girls that would like to tour then I will take a back seat and let the girls work, see clients I advertise arrange tours hotels flights etc, for a fee which me and any girl who is serious about this can discuss personally, without other people who have no interest in actually trying something new, commenting and judging when they know nothing about the industry here.
The first part I have highlighted is actually trafficking which is illegal. Even if the girls have agreed to it, it is still illegal to move girls state to state to work for YOU. It is worse as you want to arrange to take them from the UK to Australia by arranging flights etc. So not just state to state but to another country so you can sit back and take a fee from them.
The second part I have highlighted is called PIMPING. YOU are arranging tours and letting the girls see clients YOU advertise for, for a fee.
No matter how you try to word it the moment you charge a fee for arranging it all you become a PIMP. Again it may be by the girls choice but the Law does not care if the girls agree to it or not. It will be you breaking the Law.
I am not having a go but the fact you think what you are advertising is not illegal worries me as any women who decides to give it ago may well think what you are doing is legal and they need to know it is not.
I would go so far to suggest that anyone who wants to work in Australia find out for themselves about the legalities and also ask advice on the main forum as some of the more well known ladies actually do travel and work in Oz and can probably give you better advice as they are not going to be making money from you so have no reason to not be completely honest re the Law and Visas etc
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Dani, but what on earth is the diffrents between the uk agency and this one? Slithly that this one pays a ticket, and then it's stays that it's easier for me to start with her, than having to buy 2000dollars ticket for myself. So, this doesn't make sense. Or you wipe off the advertising forum for good, or you just become okey with that pimping is acceptable for the reason when it's done safe and like an agency work. You could actually write under every post on this forum section.
I was many times thinking about going to Australia but the price of the ticket, not knowing the surroundings and so was a bit off putting, so if I still wanted to go there the help would be appriciated. As long there is no contract attached to it, you can just learn the ways there and leave working for yourself. That can e helpful. I think the OP is certain about what she speaks, cause she can pay the ticket for you, so it's not just some kind of madness. Just leave it all the way girls...
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A 2000 air ticket will have to be paid back plus accomodation, internal travel costs and the OP's fees.
The only promise of well paying clients comes from the OP herself.
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Either, if you are there you are already paid the ticket by the OP and start the bussiness youself if she can't managed that. I doubt there is no business as she has to invest so much.
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Candy, if you're serious about it, get in touch with the original poster rather than going on here.
It's unlikely that she's going to pay for you to fly to Australia - the word 'arrange' does not mean 'pay for' - and there will be a cost to what ever it is she does do.
The big difference between a UK agency and this is that, if you can work in the UK, using an agency to find work is legal here.
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She says in the first post that she pays that. Plus the agency work is illegal in uk, working alone yes but not for someone who takes a cut of it.
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It's illegal for the agent, not the girl.
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Dani, but what on earth is the diffrents between the uk agency and this one? Slithly that this one pays a ticket,
Not much difference hence I would not recommend anyone to work for an agency in the UK either
However the difference comes in that when you get there you will already owe her a lot of money which you will have to work off as well as her fee being taken from it for advertising. She does not state what fees she is charging, nor how you are expected to pay her back, how is she going to get her money if you decide after a week you want to come home? There are a lot of questions that need to be asked before anyone thinks of doing this. Who will hold your passport until the fees are paid back?
How much are you expected to pay on top of her fees from each booking to pay off air fares and room. what if you decide you want to come home after a week or so? What happens if she got arrested and you are stuck there with no advertising and not enough money to get home? what happens if you don't get on and she wants all her money back straight away. What happens if you decide you don't want to see a client she has sent you or are too tired to carryon working that day but she has clients lined up for you?
Relying on someone else for your room to sleep in or flights to get home or owning them money for all of it can lead to some very big problems many wouldn't think about until it happened.
However I don't think she looked in to it too much or she would know that ladies need a visa to work there and the likelihood of being given a visa to work as a prositute is very low. She also said she would not be breaking the Law by flying people from one country to another to work for her as prostitutes. That actually sounds like someone who has not looked into the legalities at all. It may be voluntary but it is still trafficking
Owing someone a lot of money in a different country where you will likely be working without the legal visa required can cause a lot of problems. I would say the same regardless of who it was and which country it was. Why trust a total stranger with something as valuable as yourself. You could end up stuck in a country you don't want to be in with no work and no money to get home or without a passport as she kept yours as you owed her money.
Its worth knowing to ask all of this before going ahead. It may well all be above board but it is better to find out now then when you are over there. Not all people who want to exploit escorts are men. Some are women. By thinking it will be ok because she is female is foolhardy. Women can be as exploitive as men. If it was a man posting this I am sure you would be thinking the same way I am and would not be quite so trusting.
It will also be better to go and work for yourself the same as here. Many women do. If you are Indie here then why not there? It is why I said to look it up for yourself and to also ask on the forums as many have worked there and can give proper advice. Advice that they are giving without having a vested interest. Theyw ont be earning from it so have no reason to say anything that is not true
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Yeah, Dani. I got your point. In my way, if I would go with her, I would take the right amount of money to come back on my own or have the clue where advrtise. As for a newbie it's might safer to fly with her, if you just want to know the ways. I was doing this (agency) many times for short times, just to see how they operate or if it's good, how are the clients, etc. Then I got indie. But the OP seems to not speak again, maybe she would answer all those questions. But being in her shoes, it might also cost her a trouble if someone uses her just to fly there and stay a while. That's why the people always have to be correct on this what they are expecting. As long if there is honestly then is good.
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Yeah, Dani. I got your point. In my way, if I would go with her, I would take the right amount of money to come back on my own or have the clue where advrtise. As for a newbie it's might safer to fly with her, if you just want to know the ways. I was doing this (agency) many times for short times, just to see how they operate or if it's good, how are the clients, etc. Then I got indie. But the OP seems to not speak again, maybe she would answer all those questions. But being in her shoes, it might also cost her a trouble if someone uses her just to fly there and stay a while. That's why the people always have to be correct on this what they are expecting. As long if there is honestly then is good.
I agree, if anyone is actually thinking about doing this make sure you have the money and means to get home or get yourself out of trouble if necessary, just as you would if touring in the UK.