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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: Pam_EscortsLadies on 21 August 2012, 06:22:19 pm
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Hello Ladies!
We are looking for Escorts Ladies happy to help us improve/kickstart our new project before we officially launch and start promotion - http://www.escortsladies.com (http://www.escortsladies.com)
All constructive feedback is highly appreciated, the good and the bad one. We have over 5 years experience in developing escorts directories, however all our previous projects were gay orientated :) We own all our previous services and we didn't create 'Escorts Ladies' to sell it at any point.
EscortsLadies.com is free for both - escorts and clients, paid upgrade for increased visibility of ad is available, however our income comes from 3rd party ads, therefore we are free and we will remain that way (this isn't time limited offer).
To keep the directory up to date we automatically remove inactive profiles (70 days without login).
We do not promise you will get tons of calls from the day one, we are new and we do realise our position in search engines due to lack of profiles is currently non-existent, we also won't be advertising anywhere until the directory gets filled with profiles.
This is long term project, not here today, gone tomorrow. We hope you will find Escorts Ladies useful as a new (no cost) channel of advertising.
Our system has been custom made, therefore it's possible you may find some errors. This is why we ask you girls to test it and let us know what you think, what you love and what you hate. What needs to be added and what's absolutely useless.
During the registration we ask only for the most important details, after profile approval you will find more features, like contacts, profile verification, video upload, links to your reviews, duo partners, interview, etc.
We have also integrated geolocation with the service (based on visitor's IP we will show on homepage girls from the nearest bigger city). This should give Escorts Ladies local feeling. This feature is currently not active, only when the service will have enough profiles to use this function we will activate it.
We'd love to make EscortsLadies.com your new additional source of clients without any fees, but to do that we need your help.
Four profiles on homepage (new Ladies) are real, the rest is a "dummy content" to show how Escorts Ladies look/work. We hold copyrights to all images used in the service (this includes "dummy content"). All temporary profiles created by us will be deleted with each new registration.
If any of you Ladies need super-fast unlimited hosting to put your website on we're happy to provide our resources as a 'thank you' for your feedback. We can also install Wordpress (or other CMS) and chosen template for you. Also, all Ladies taking active part in this thread will have their Escorts Ladies profile upgraded to VIP to increase profile visibility - this will be account lifetime upgrade.
You can also follow us on Twitter for quicker support or just for fun ;) - http://www.twitter.com/EscortsLadies (http://www.twitter.com/EscortsLadies)
We appreciate if you could spread the link to the service (if you think we're worth it).
Thanks and we're looking forward to hearing your opinion.
Pam and Tom
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Started to do a profile but then it would not let me carry on unless I put my weight in. Sorry not one I ever put on my profile. Also the services section is severely limited as in, just oral, rimming, owo, SM CIM, it does not cover anywhere near enough of the service that are offered.
Also I really do not think I want to be on a site that is happy to have a box saying safe sex, sometimes, up for discussion. etc
I know some girls do offer bareback but I tend to stay away from most sites that happily advertise that. I am suprised you have all areas of that covered though but hardly any normal services.
I gave up half way through as it is far too lengthy to fill in and wants far too many details, i.e height, weight yet does not ask for clothes size or bust size just small or large
Nice looking site but not for me
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Started to do a profile but then it would not let me carry on unless I put my weight in. Sorry not one I ever put on my profile. Also the services section is severely limited as in, just oral, rimming, owo, SM CIM, it does not cover anywhere near enough of the service that are offered.
Also I really do not think I want to be on a site that is happy to have a box saying safe sex, sometimes, up for discussion. etc
I know some girls do offer bareback but I tend to stay away from most sites that happily advertise that. I am suprised you have all areas of that covered though but hardly any normal services.
I gave up half way through as it is far too lengthy to fill in and wants far too many details, i.e height, weight yet does not ask for clothes size or bust size just small or large
Nice looking site but not for me
Do you think the physical stuff above could be because they're used to managing gay sites? I haven't looked at the site and it's only a guess, but things like height/weight and 'build' type stuff, plus the miniscule services list makes me suspect they've just cut and pasted a form usually intended for men and tweaked it a bit.
And EL, Dani's right - female prostitutes either offer unprotected sex or they don't. If there is any 'up for discussion' aspect, they won't be shouting about it in public.
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Started to do a profile but then it would not let me carry on unless I put my weight in. Sorry not one I ever put on my profile. Also the services section is severely limited as in, just oral, rimming, owo, SM CIM, it does not cover anywhere near enough of the service that are offered.
Also I really do not think I want to be on a site that is happy to have a box saying safe sex, sometimes, up for discussion. etc
I know some girls do offer bareback but I tend to stay away from most sites that happily advertise that. I am suprised you have all areas of that covered though but hardly any normal services.
I gave up half way through as it is far too lengthy to fill in and wants far too many details, i.e height, weight yet does not ask for clothes size or bust size just small or large
Nice looking site but not for me
Hi Dani,
thanks for your comment, this is why we posted it here, because we know your girls have biggest experience in online promotion and no one else knows better how online directory should be like. Let me address couple of details:
Also the services section is severely limited as in, just oral, rimming, owo, SM CIM, it does not cover anywhere near enough of the service that are offered.
During the registration in the field "Sexual Activities" there is a choice between:
(http://www.escortsladies.com/support/sexual-act.jpg)
however later during the registration when you get to section "Profile TAGS" you can specify additional preferences as well as you can add your own 3 if our TAGS don't cover it.
(http://www.escortsladies.com/support/tags.jpg)
Profile TAGS appear under pictures in your profile (please see example here http://www.escortsladies.com/Tina (http://www.escortsladies.com/Tina) )
Please let us know what would you like to be added to main Sexual Activities section and we will promptly make the changes.
Also I really do not think I want to be on a site that is happy to have a box saying safe sex, sometimes, up for discussion. etc
If most of the girls prefer not to answer this question, just like Amy said in post above, I don't see a problem removing this option. No matter how much we promote safer sex it's obvious that some girls offer bareback and some clients are looking for this particular service, this is why we decided to include this option.
Would you girls prefer to remove this option completely or maybe add an option "skip" for this question?
Started to do a profile but then it would not let me carry on unless I put my weight in
This field will be changed to optional later today. Here again, the main reason we left it was for clients looking for extra large ladies, but then they have "body type" and the choice of: Size Zero, Slim, Athletic, Average, Curvy, Heavy (any suggestions here?).
website does not ask for clothes size or bust size just small or large
We tried to make the service as "clients" friendly as possible, this means as simple as possible when it comes to searching for girls. At the end of the day clients will use the service on daily basis, the role of escort pretty much ends after profile registration. We thought that most clients will look for girls with either "very big" boobs or "small" depending on preferences. They won't be looking for girls with cup size between AA to B or D to E, etc. You can however specify all detail after the registration (and profile approval) in section "Questions and Answers". Here you can add answers to a selection of created by us questions, something similar to Interview on AW. Questions you decided to answer to (they are all optional) will appear on your profile. Current selection of questions:
- When did you become an escort?
- Do you have restrictions on age, race, disabilities??
- Do you kiss with clients?
- Are your rates negotiable?
- Is it possible to book you for less than an hour?
- Do you live by yourself? Is clients privacy safe?
- Do you do threesomes or groups?
- What is your nationality?
- What languages do you speak?
- Do you offer massage? Are you qualified?
- What is the most sensitive part of your body?
- Do you like any fetishes?
- Do you offer "girlfriend experience"?
- Do you have any erotic toys we could use?
- What is the most unusual request you have ever had from a client?
- How good is your English?
- Is escorting your full time job?
- What in your opinion is the best and the worst side of escorting?
- Where is the most exciting place you have gone with a client?
- Have you ever left a dissatisfied client? What happened?
- Do you offer A-level? Are you experienced?
- Do I have to put condom on for oral sex?
- Do you offer incalls? Where are you located?
- What are your measurements? Bust, waist, and hip measurements, along with bra size.
- If a client was to give you a present, what would you be very happy with?
- Do you have any uniforms for role play? Schoolgirl, secretary, etc.?
If you think we should add something (some other popular questions clients ask?) please let us know. The more details girls provide on their profiles the bigger the chance clients call to arrange the meeting, not to ask what's your feet size ;) (shall we add this question? ;)
Dani. I will email you directly regarding your profile you started creating.
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Do you think the physical stuff above could be because they're used to managing gay sites? I haven't looked at the site and it's only a guess, but things like height/weight and 'build' type stuff, plus the miniscule services list makes me suspect they've just cut and pasted a form usually intended for men and tweaked it a bit.
And EL, Dani's right - female prostitutes either offer unprotected sex or they don't. If there is any 'up for discussion' aspect, they won't be shouting about it in public.
Hi Amy,
yes - EscortsLadies.com is based on the same system we used for our gay orientated service, there was no point to invent the wheel twice. We did however make all the changes we could think of to adjust the service to female escorts, also there is obviously no doubt we looked at other already successful escorts directories for inspiration and the height/weight and build type were pretty commonly used. We also have no doubt there are clients looking for tall or short ladies, as well as those looking for skinny or BBW girls :) We are happy to make ANY necessary changes most girls want.
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Do you live alone is not a question most girls will want on their profile at all. Again I notice this will probably be from a gay site but there is a difference and women will not want anyone to know they are vunerable.
Could all the sexual activities be in one section and perhaps istead of limiting how many we can have instead have a tick box section where we can choose as many as we want. I could list endless ones I would like to see listed that are not there but it would be easier for you to look at Adultwork as they have just about every service covered. Have copied and pasted the full list
"A" Levels Humiliation (receiving)
"A" Levels (at discretion) Lapdancing
15 Mins "quickie" Massage
Adult Baby Minding Milking/Lactating
Anal Play MMF 3Somes
Bareback Modeling
BDSM Moresomes
BDSM (giving) Naturism/Nudism
BDSM (receiving) Oral
Being Filmed Oral without (at discretion)
Bukkake Oral without Protection
Car Meets Parties
CIM Penetration (Protected)
CIM (at discretion) Period Play
Cross Dressing Pole Dancing
Deep Throat Pregnant
Depilation Prostate Massage
Dinner Dates Pussy Pumping
Disabled Clients Receiving Oral
Dogging Rimming
Domination Rimming (giving)
Domination (giving) Rimming (receiving)
Domination (receiving) Role Play & Fantasy
Double Penetration Sauna / Bath Houses
Enema Smoking (Fetish)
Exhibitionism Snowballing
Face Sitting Spanking
Facials Spanking (giving)
Female Ejaculation Spanking (receiving)
Fetish Strap On
FFM 3Somes Striptease
Fisting Sub games
Fisting (giving) Swallow
Fisting (receiving) Swallow (at discretion)
Food Sex Swinging
Foot Worship Sybian & Machine Sex
French Kissing Tantric
French Kissing (discretion) Tie & Tease
Gang Bangs Toys
Hand Relief Travel Companion
Hardsports Uniforms
Hardsports (giving) Unprotected Sex
Hardsports (receiving) Voyeurism
Humiliation Watersports (Giving)
Humiliation (giving) Watersports (Receiving)
Also why have measurements as most men have no idea what that means why not just have dress size and bust size
You will probably be very suprised at how many men do look for someone with a bust size of between say a 32d and 32F or whatever they actually prefer and a dress size of 8 or 18
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I'll apologise for not directly quoting the bits I'm referring to, but the post is just far too huge and unwieldy. Hopefully it's clear enough.
Regarding the advertising of unprotected sex and any other legal services, I have absolutely no problem with it. A list of services with tick boxes we can mark 'Yes' (and even better 'No' which Adultwork doesn't have) will do fine for me.
The part we don't need is the one which implies that the services offered and rates charged may be up for negotiation - most of us go to great lengths trying to make it clear what we do and don't offer and how much it costs, and statements like 'up for discussion' only encourage more hagglers and boundary pushers. Clear yes or no is all that's needed. Ditto rates - nobody in their right mind is going to set a fee and then tick a box that says 'but you don't have to pay this much if you pester me enough' shortly afterwards - it's lunacy.
As Dani says, most punters have a reasonably good idea of what dress and bra size the lady they are looking for is likely to be - saying 'curvy' or 'slim' or whatever is far too subjective. I've seen size 12 described as 'fat'. Ditto breast size - a D cup is big for some and pretty average for others - just give us the space and options to provide the concrete information rather than trying to answer the questions for us. Punters are not as thick as you seem to think, and if they're really that confused they can look at the pictures.
You can however specify all detail after the registration (and profile approval) in section "Questions and Answers". Here you can add answers to a selection of created by us questions, something similar to Interview on AW. Questions you decided to answer to (they are all optional) will appear on your profile. Current selection of questions:
- When did you become an escort?*
- Do you have restrictions on age, race, disabilities??
- Do you kiss with clients?
- Are your rates negotiable?*
- Is it possible to book you for less than an hour?
- Do you live by yourself? Is clients privacy safe?*
- Do you do threesomes or groups?
- What is your nationality?
- What languages do you speak?
- Do you offer massage? Are you qualified?
- What is the most sensitive part of your body?
- Do you like any fetishes?
- Do you offer "girlfriend experience"?
- Do you have any erotic toys we could use?
- What is the most unusual request you have ever had from a client?*
- How good is your English?
- Is escorting your full time job?*
- What in your opinion is the best and the worst side of escorting?*
- Where is the most exciting place you have gone with a client?*
- Have you ever left a dissatisfied client? What happened?*
- Do you offer A-level? Are you experienced?
- Do I have to put condom on for oral sex?
- Do you offer incalls? Where are you located?
What are your measurements? Bust, waist, and hip measurements, along with bra size.
- If a client was to give you a present, what would you be very happy with?
- Do you have any uniforms for role play? Schoolgirl, secretary, etc.?
All of the questions I have emboldened above are inappropriate, in my opinion. The ones about services (do you offer anal/incall/quickies, do you use condoms for oral, and so on) should be covered in the Services section so all the relevant information is together and not scattered around the page. Ditto the questions about physical appearance.
The other questions (asterisked*) are the sort of thing that we dread clients asking, mainly because they are irrelevant but also because they are private. It is nobody else's business how long we have been working, what we have done with other clients, whether we have other jobs or God forbid (and as Daisy says) our domestic arrangements. And whilst they may be optional, there is no point having the ones which serve no useful purpose and could put people in serious danger.
I tried to set up an ad myself and couldn't get further than the first page because you have not included any towns or cities anywhere near me, and there is no option to add it yourself. My photo wouldn't upload either, and there is no information provided on what size/format it should be to do this?
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Amy I struggled with the photo also but found that if it is under 100KB it works (after messing around for about 20 minutes trying every size I had).
I would also like to be able to add another city to my profile as I am on the border of two places. Like a lot of people the city name is not ideal as a location as we quite often find ourselves on the cusp of two.
I agree with all Amy has said about the questions not being needed but forget to write it down as thought my post was long enough.
Description should be all in one section, services all in another followed by prices. There is no need for any other information to be listed by you. A description of us, our services and prices and then our spiel should be all that is needed apart from our phone number, website address (neccessary for us to have) and perhaps email address.
It should cover what our website covers and nothing more. If we wanted more we would have it on our own sites wouldnt we?
I think the fact you are taking time to find out what we actually want is a good sign but you will have to realise we advertise differently to gay men and our privacy and security is therefor probably going to be much more controlled by us. We do not want another directory that there is no point joining as either needs far too much info or is too hard to manouver(sp) we want something that is easy for us and our clients to use, where all the info is together and not all over the place.
So to say it again we want
Location
City or cities, then town (we can type this in ourselves
description i.e dress size, bra size eye/hair colour eve height and more than one photo is normally better
Then our own choice of words for our spiel
services a great selection of service listed for us to tick or not
if you need to add bareback have a box for protected or un[protected for us to tick
Prices
contact details
That is all we need and makes for easier reading for the clients
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Hi again girls,
there is no limit to maximum size of uploaded image, in fact there is a limit of minimum size (464x344px) to avoid too small pictures. I just tried to upload 5MB pictures with no problem. I will now go again through all the comments, contact our developers regarding the changes and will come back with outcome. Many thanks for your patience.
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Another good point would be to have more cities, i live on the North Wales/Chester border and there is no cities listed for were i live, the closest being Liverpool but i wouldn't even usually travel there for an outcall!
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Just been through the whole registration to then find i need to have a face picture on my profile? no thanks, and from what i have read im not the only one.