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Destiny Escorts Ireland - New Advertising Website
« on: 16 September 2020, 04:33:39 pm »
Hello everyone,


https://destinyescortsireland.com

my names Adam, and i'd like to show you a brand new website that i have for advertising for the island of Ireland.   

To keep things simple - there are two types of adverts that will run - Regular ads (daily, weekly and 4 weekly) and Premium ads (weekly but must be with a regular advert).   

ALL regular adverts will be free until Feb 28th 2021, no matter when you start.   Premium ads will be priced £25 or E30  per week depending on the currency you want to pay in.  !Please note that all advertisers will need to upload verification photos before adverts are placed live!

 If you would like to contact me for more details I would be more than happy to help.  Either through here or through the contact page on the website. 

We all know that starting a new website is hard because of visibility of the ads and Google search.....especially in the location I am in....but it is a vicious circle.....to become more visible, you need new content....which means new ads....so please feel free to have a look and even give me feedback though the website, on anything that you think I can improve on.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you  :)





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« Reply #1 on: 17 September 2020, 02:22:17 am »
What kind of verification photo do you require?

You mention 'date of birth, passport and other ID information' is this information mandatory to advertise?

What are your 'extremely thorough checks to verify that anyone advertising on the site is independently working'?


What 'screenshot proof' do you require from reviewers who hope to win a £50 Amazon Voucher? Quote from your T & C
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In order to qualify for the applicable gift you must leave five (or other requisite number) of Reviews of meetings with Advertisers and provide screenshot proof confirming that each meeting took place as well as comply with any other verification requirements that we specify.


What other 'verification requirements' do you require from reviewers to prove they've attended a booking?

Can you explain more about your website's blacklist of advertisers phone numbers and how that works?

To be included on your website's blacklist you mention, 'inappropriate behaviour', can you explain what that means?
« Last Edit: 17 September 2020, 12:55:11 pm by saltysweet »

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« Reply #2 on: 17 September 2020, 02:07:12 pm »
Thank you very much for giving me questions saltysweet - I hope these answers are enough information, however if you have any other feedback to the answers please let me know.


So, firstly, anyone can register and make a profile, however you are correct.   I require 2 pieces of information before any advert will go live. 
1: Selfie with clear picture of the passport page showing date of birth and picture.
2: A picture of you with a page stating your site name, the name of the website and the date (this must be within 2 working days of initial registration).

Because I am making these checks mandatory I hope that this does following: Shows a clear identification with proof of age, and also that the person that is advertising is using the profile themselves.   The proof of age has to happen because of legal requirements.  The 2nd picture is from feedback that I have been given regarding profiles being made and then hired out to people.  This way I can say from the start that profiles are verified.


In relation to the screenshot proof - feedback that I have been given state that all first reviews require a certain amount of proof sent into a site....(thank you for drawing my attention to this as I will need to reword the terms and conditions slightly).  The proof that I require will be a screen shot confirming the meeting.  Not that it took place - just the agreement to meet.  As far as I am aware this is standard practise between a few sites.   Once the offer becomes available (in regards to the amazon voucher - this will be notified on the site when it is available)  anyone that wishes to be included for the promotion must include this screen for EVERY review made.  For a normal member of the site this is something for nothing as there is no charge applied at any stage for membership, so I need to make sure that someone isn't making false reviews.  As regards to verification requirements, if the site thinks that it is an untrustworthy review (fake etc), then we will ask for a little more detail such as general location or landmark.  Again as per other sites and the information that I have, this is standard practice.

Blacklist and inappropriate behaviour - when you register and start using the site as an advertiser - you have access to a blacklist.  This ties in with inappropriate behaviour.  If someone calls and asks for something that is not on offer or is threatening - there is a section for all advertisers where you can enter a phone number and reason why you want to blacklist.  This same section allows you to check for phone numbers, so I am hoping it is a type of safety feature.  I know that this is available as a separate app, however this function has been built into this site.   This function is not available to a normal user / member of the site....only advertisers.

Like any new site, I know there will be a little way to go to make sure that the site is perfect, however I hope that anyone that uses it finds that it is simple to use, and likes the features that I have on it.   I am also very keen on hearing anything that would be of beneficial that I might be able to add to the site, or improvements that I could make, especially with the information that I have given above.   Thanks again  :)


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« Reply #3 on: 17 September 2020, 02:17:16 pm »
DEI thank you for you prompt response.

How will you know the landmark for an escort when you question a 'suspected untrustworthy' reviewer?



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« Reply #4 on: 17 September 2020, 03:08:04 pm »


If I don't know the location personally (I know my way around most of Northern Ireland  :) ), then the best I can use would be Google maps to determine the landmark, then you would have a little extra information that would be required...such as time and date and also There would also be some warning signs that we would look out for....example being if a reviewer tended to only review in a general location (such as northern ireland), or frequency of reviews , or making a lot of reviews in different areas.    I know this isn't 100% fool proof, but again, its seems to be similar checks made with different sites so would be standard (until I can think of a more efficient way)  :)

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« Reply #5 on: 17 September 2020, 05:31:04 pm »
Thank you for your prompt reply dei.

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« Reply #6 on: 17 September 2020, 09:19:49 pm »
You want a selfie of us. Not very discreet and your a new website with no reputation?

I understand you could want i.d to place a ad or send a code to a phone so genuine ad and to verify someone is legal to work but asking for selfies to some women that do not show faces on ads is a risk.

Viva street for example you just pay with your bank card and can get a pin sent to phone. I understand if foreign ladies who might be illegal or pimped being asked for passport.

Just seems too much info and trust it's not like we are working for you and owe you agency fees so you want i.d so we do not run off with fees.

None of non adult adverts for say advertising as hair dresser or plumber require selfies of faces. Just seems too much is wanted just to place a advert when we could be paying you not other way round.
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« Reply #7 on: 17 September 2020, 10:04:00 pm »
Hi English Green,  thanks for your feedback.

Yes you are correct in what you say regarding a selfie.  It is a lot of trust to be putting into a website with no reputation, however there are specific reasons that I am asking for this information.


As it is a new business in the adult sector (which is deemed top of the list for high risk businesses), trying to even get a business bank account for accepting payments is extremely hard, especially when it has Escorts in the title.  The problems that I am still encountering would be enough to let a lot of people just throw in the towel to be honest ( I like to persevere) so getting people to add a card at the moment is imposible for me, but this isn't the only reason - there is the other aspect of identifying who is advertising - for proof of age and as I mentioned before about making sure that the person advertising is the one that is registered on the site - (again this is the information that I got which was the best way for verification when I i did my initial research). It is not about checking if someone has the right to work because as you have again correctly stated, I'm not employing anyone. I am the one that is offering a service - in this case advertising space.

Technically a child is able to get a bank card - anyone from 16 years and up can have a card that they are able to pay for things online, because they are all VISA or Master Cards.  I for one, do not want to run the risk of having anyone under the age of 18 advertising on the site. In some instances 16 year old are also able to get a credit card if they are co signed with an adult (like an extra card for them to use), which again brings into play the aspect of potential pimping and trafficking.

As to it being discreet (i hope this answers this part) - the verification photos are uploaded in a different setting to the normal advertising photos, and are kept separate from these photos at all times.   They are not made public and only authorised admins of the site can see them to verify the profiles, as I am fully aware that a lot of escorts do not show their faces on a public profile.

As to asking for a passport from anyone in the UK or Ireland - yes, I could change the wording on the site however it would be to upload a picture of driving license instead of a passport.  Again this would show and confirm the date of birth and identify the picture of the selfie to who ever is advertising.

In the long term though,  I would like to gain enough trust so that people would advertise and use the site to look for escorts. And I hope that mine will eventually become a better and cheaper alternative to what is available for the location that I have set up in - although there is a lot of work to be done :).  Everyone has to start somewhere and I would like to make sure that I start mine with checks that I believe are correct.

I hope this explains my thoughts on it, but please let me know if you want me to clarify anything else, or if you have any other feedback.  Thank you :)

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« Reply #8 on: 17 September 2020, 10:59:38 pm »
DEI, in order to comply with your GDPR obligations-

Who is your data controller?

Do you employ a data controller? eg a private company or barrister

What is the name and address of your data controller?
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« Reply #9 on: 18 September 2020, 08:58:54 am »
If you want to cover yourself you can ask for a passport camera shot and even a bill with same name / address on.

The selfie is not needed and degrading and how can you prove it's the same lady from adverts if they do not have there advertising pictures with face pic showing which a lot do not.

Your obviously copying how Adultwork do it but a lot of people are uncomfortable how they operate and selfies that have been ticked to hide have been exposed to everyone a serious flaw as others have found out.

The only reason Adultwork get away with asking for all this is they bring in a lot of work for lots of women and have been around for many years.

Good luck with your terms especially being a new site.

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« Reply #10 on: 18 September 2020, 01:06:09 pm »
DEI, in order to comply with GDPR obligations-

Who is your data controller?

Do you employ a data controller? eg a private company or barrister

What is the name and address of your data controller?

At the moment, because of the size of the company - the data controller is myself.  No one is employed in this role at the moment.

Once it gets to a certain size then yes, a separate data controller will be employed (although only time will tell if this is too happen as I'm sure you can understand)

Any queries can be forwarded to the following:

Data Controller c/o Destiny Escorts Ireland
Unit 495, Moat House,
54 Bloomfield Avenue,
Belfast BT5 5AD

This is not the ideal scenario, as I fully intend to keep this role completely separate, it will be a case of time will tell if this will eventually be able to happen (ideal world is that people start using the site :) )



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« Reply #11 on: 18 September 2020, 01:27:32 pm »
If you want to cover yourself you can ask for a passport camera shot and even a bill with same name / address on.

The selfie is not needed and degrading and how can you prove it's the same lady from adverts if they do not have there advertising pictures with face pic showing which a lot do not.

Your obviously copying how Adultwork do it but a lot of people are uncomfortable how they operate and selfies that have been ticked to hide have been exposed to everyone a serious flaw as others have found out.

The only reason Adultwork get away with asking for all this is they bring in a lot of work for lots of women and have been around for many years.

Good luck with your terms especially being a new site.

Thank you very much English Green,  this is exactly the type of feedback that I need. 

I take your point regarding the selfies, however I wasn't wanting to prove it was the same person from the adverts.   Only that the Id supplied and the person registering were the same (apologies if I didn't make that clear in previous posts).   You would be entitled to upload what ever photos to advertise as you wished as long as they fell in with decency laws.

However am I still unsure  with what your suggesting as an appropriate way to determine proof of age, because this to me is one of the most important things that I want to make a check for.  For example - a bank will take a bill as proof but only as proof of address and even then they will expect you in the branch to verify yourself in person (the likes of certain online banks want video proof).  The only things that can identify you as being over 18 are a passport, driving license, birth certificate or a national identity card, because these all have your date of birth on them.  These all have photos except the birth certificate (which no one really carries with them).  So I am open to any suggestions you have that will prove age without one of those that I have listed.

In relation to Adult work - the photos that you use to verify (as I described previously) do not have to be ticked to hide on my site.  They are uploaded in a separate file so are kept away from the advertising photos.  You are more than welcome to use a test profile that I will create for you  and upload the details here for you to check this out. Let me know and I will upload them here as I would be extremely grateful for any feedback you have on this.  So hopefully this will be different to Adultwork.

Thanks again, Adam

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« Reply #12 on: 18 September 2020, 04:46:11 pm »
Dei thank you for your prompt response.

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« Reply #13 on: 19 September 2020, 09:27:37 pm »
If you want honest feedback a passport or driving licence covers you and is more then enough. A bank is dealing with money and sometimes serious amounts of money so for fraud they have more right to ask for more plus a bank are accountable for data laws and are huge known businesses and i have never given any selfies to a bank and i have drawn out big amounts and transfered big amounts.

Selfies is not a requirement needed for law and remember it's the women paying you for an advert and by law you do not need selfies.

But it is your new business and you can run it with what terms you wish just do not expect everyone will be happy with those requirments especially with a unknow man who has no established business.

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« Reply #14 on: 19 September 2020, 11:01:05 pm »
If you want honest feedback a passport or driving licence covers you and is more then enough. A bank is dealing with money and sometimes serious amounts of money so for fraud they have more right to ask for more plus a bank are accountable for data laws and are huge known businesses and i have never given any selfies to a bank and i have drawn out big amounts and transfered big amounts.

Selfies is not a requirement needed for law and remember it's the women paying you for an advert and by law you do not need selfies.

But it is your new business and you can run it with what terms you wish just do not expect everyone will be happy with those requirments especially with a unknow man who has no established business.

Yes I did want honest feedback.   Thank you very much, because you hsve definately given me food for thought on the selfie aspect of it. I never said that the selfie was required by law, but I do know of at least one site that asks for a selfie, but with the name of thier site on a piece of paper and another for photographic id.. Regardless of how long they have been in business, this is what I took to be standard practice. Obviously not, so again thank you for pointing that out.

In regards to the banking side of things... I actually have quite a bit of experience with this... the point I was trying to make however, was for age verification and to identify the person supplying the Id was the same. .. Not transferring money. Its the process of identificatiin that I am most concerned about.... And the process that they use for initial Id is pretty much government standard.  Which is why I mentioned online banks... And the fact that any online bank that I've opened an account with have asked you to send in a video, however I do see your point very clearly.  Also anyone that deals with private information has to comply with data laws.... Its not just banks,  So again thank you 😊.  You have been very helpful.