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Adverts => Spamming in the Lion's Den => Topic started by: LondonLadyx on 20 April 2018, 12:18:15 am
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Hi ladies, first time posting here, so apologies if it is not welcomed or if it has indeed breached any forums rules I misread.
I'm a Brit, with 12 years experience in the Dubai market.Retiring for a year to attend to family commitments.
I can help with your first tour securing meetings so it's a worthwhile trip. Ideal for anyone that would like that extra help. I can schedule dates, advise on hotel etc to make everything run smoothly. After years of finessing my own tours. I know only too well how things can go wrong in a new place. And right when everything is put together helpfully.
If it interests you, drop me a line with a link to where I can locate some of your stats and hopefully we can chat further.
Ideal for anyone that hasn't frequented the scene in UAE/Dubai. As with being a newbie, anywhere new, brings a busier trip.
All the best x
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Can you give us some more information please?
You said you can help securing meetings...how?
What do you mean by you can schedule dates?
Are you proposing to take a fee from anyone taking you up on your offer? Or a percentage of their earnings? How much?
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I've built up a regular book of clients ready waiting to book. But I'm now no longer able to fulfil those requests whilst being back here in the UK / retiring for this period of time.
Some, not all, people loathe navigating the possible minefield of a first tour in a new city/country. I was once one of those people, the risk of having an possible empty tour and wasting my time. But also I hated paying repeat commission to an agency on meeting the same client twice, three times etc etc.
So I'm offering that I can set up frequent bookings to make for a busy first tour. With a one off fee on each client I book in for you. (I'd ask 30% on each new booking with each new client). This is for my time and efforts. After which I'd hope you've gained a new client to keep and build your own client base for repeat tours etc.
Dubai clients are having a tough time of it, with the mass of fake listings. Becoming extremely distrustful. There's a lot of switch and bait going on with groups of foreign gangs waiting for them on in calls. Stealing everything they have on them, whilst appearing to be a pretty European girl on the profile. I get in undated with requests to meet trusted aqauntances I can recommend to them and have organised previous tours for friends in the industry based on it being less stress for the girl, she can just clock on every day when she starts. Get garaunteed bookings, but ultimately gain a good set of regulars for her next trip.
Rates are steadying around 300/400/500£ an hour. In calls in the comfort of your own hotel. Two clients a day minimum.
The type of clients that come my way seek:
A friendly welcoming demeanour.
Someone on time.
Who appears to enjoy her work.
I'd would need a collection of nice pictures to send discreetly to them so they can see if they'd like to meet. To work with someone who's honest, well presented. Has good time management. And I can promise in return I will make you as busy as you would like to be.
Dates / meetings / bookings. Meaning the same thing. A scheduled meeting with a client of the typical nature.
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Excuse the poor grammar, it is late in the evening..
Just to re iterate, my fee is for the introduction to a new client and the organising done by myself. Giving you no admin to deal with on what could be a stressful first tour. For those seeking that.
Thanks x
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Are you over there? Do you have website?
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You need to post a way to contact you.
If I were interested in touring Dubai and thought this method would be useful, I would want to know who you are. I would be a little bit suspicious because, indeed, your language usage doesn't sound exactly British.
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My concern with this is that newbies are going to see this and go, ooh Dubai, and jump straight in without knowing exactly what they are getting into.
The legal situation in the middle east isn't to be taken lightly.
If anyone is reading this and thinking about it do a thorough search of the forum and make sure you know what you're doing..two members here have a lot of experience touring Dubai I'd be speaking to them.
I've been working for years and wouldn't take the chance over there
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My concern with this is that newbies are going to see this and go, ooh Dubai, and jump straight in without knowing exactly what they are getting into.
The legal situation in the middle east isn't to be taken lightly.
If anyone is reading this and thinking about it do a thorough search of the forum and make sure you know what you're doing..two members here have a lot of experience touring Dubai I'd be speaking to them.
I've been working for years and wouldn't take the chance over there
I had exactly the same thought as you. I keep considering it but it seems a dangerous minefield (Not just the work but if your caught) I do like the idea of help though.
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Also the legal position of being caught working for someone compared to the legal position of being caught working indie.
I just feel if you're not confident enough to sort your own flights, ads etc you're not confident enough to go there. I know I'm not.
There are 2 very reputable members here with lots of experience touring that part of the world who I'm sure would be happy to answer questions or comment....I just feel it's always best to get help and advice from someone who won't be profiting from you working. It's in the OPs best interests for you to go as you'd be paying her 30%.
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You need to post a way to contact you.
If I were interested in touring Dubai and thought this method would be useful, I would want to know who you are. I would be a little bit suspicious because, indeed, your language usage doesn't sound exactly British.
I'm British. Born and bred. Ex emirates air hostesshaving lived in Dubai and escorted for the past decade. Now back in the UK for pregnancy. I know how it has been in Dubai in the escorting field since the back page days through to high level escorting. Both having worked for agencies and independent.
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My concern with this is that newbies are going to see this and go, ooh Dubai, and jump straight in without knowing exactly what they are getting into.
The legal situation in the middle east isn't to be taken lightly.
If anyone is reading this and thinking about it do a thorough search of the forum and make sure you know what you're doing..two members here have a lot of experience touring Dubai I'd be speaking to them.
I've been working for years and wouldn't take the chance over there
If your British it is not so bad. Your earnings are not confiscated. Your put on a flight back to the Uk. And banned from returning. It's not Saudi. Which involves situations none of us know about that could happen. Dubai is a place to be judged by those that have been. Not going on the press and myths. Ive met over 50 girls in my time in Dubai in the industry. With one getting arrested. Being a Czech girl who was causing a lot of trouble. She had overstayed her tourist visa, alongside being drunk and disorderly in public being violent. I never worried about compromising even my regular job alongside working. Anyone knows how to behave and not to attract attention. It is true, you need to be gutsy and confident in a new place. But also low key and respectful of the environment around you.
If you seek trouble, it will come. Never have I or close girls around me had any. Only more likely the odd drunk client on a late in call, if you entertain those, I don't in any city unless a regular who pays handsomely for his annoying state.
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Also the legal position of being caught working for someone compared to the legal position of being caught working indie.
I just feel if you're not confident enough to sort your own flights, ads etc you're not confident enough to go there. I know I'm not.
There are 2 very reputable members here with lots of experience touring that part of the world who I'm sure would be happy to answer questions or comment....I just feel it's always best to get help and advice from someone who won't be profiting from you working. It's in the OPs best interests for you to go as you'd be paying her 30%.
I agree, but I've witnessed past posts from ladies who frequent Dubai (still to this day) saying it is now dead, (for them) Dubai is expensive etc etc. This could be true (for them) or pure lies to stop newer girls coming onto the scene so it remains busy for them ongoing. So many clients have relayed to me that for the money they spend they get no good quality in Dubai anywmore. Which I agree with. It's about knowing the scene and knowing how to work it for the maximum benefit. So many go over there and fail and so many got complacement and lost their clients.
I wouldn't work with anyone who I know couldn't earn money and yes my fee is for sharing the earning potential through the routes I know how to. Its working as a team otherwise I would rather not bother. I only want to work with one or two girls at a time. Not an agency who works with the mass and doesn't care if your left sitting with no work while they recommend their 'favourite'.
It is in my best interest whoever I work with is busy. Not just "go". Seeing as I'll be spending a week on my phone every 5 minutes to my clients with little social life and dedicating my time.
Thank you
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I'll be creating a website shortly and will post it. I'm fully aware solely email addresses don't suffice from reading past forum posts. I've just also read PM's are viable.
Anyone that's interested I'd always ask we meet in person prior.
So we can see both who we're dealing with.
Thanks
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I'll be creating a website shortly and will post it. I'm fully aware solely email addresses don't suffice from reading past forum posts. I've just also read PM's are viable.
Anyone that's interested I'd always ask we meet in person prior.
So we can see both who we're dealing with.
Thanks
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I was too quick to post on here. Having done some more research on further past forum subject posts.
Being Indie myself for so long I knew only too well we don't like to work for others/give others our share of earnings. Hence why I was considering offering an "introduction" type fee where I don't want repeat commission for same repeat clients. But can get a new girl on the scene started.
I've seen a lot of girls come and go in Dubai and not quite get it right with choice of hotels, finding the right clients, keeping them and avoiding the time wasters etc. And thought whilst semi retiring for this year to come I could work in another aspect of the industry. Network and earn. Like we all seek to do in life. But I think I'll just do this by word of mouth within the circle of girls I know who ask me to do this.
Thankyou for your previous input. All the best. X
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Nobody has been remotely unkind to you in fairness .
.we just asked for clarification and urged people to do full research on other countries before going there...surely as an ex escort yourself you must agree this is the best idea ???
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Nobody has been remotely unkind to you in fairness .
.we just asked for clarification and urged people to do full research on other countries before going there...surely as an ex escort yourself you must agree this is the best idea ???
No, you haven't at all, I know. It's ok.
I think its just easier to go by girls/friends of girls I know already. Slightly got ahead of myself posting on here. I'd only just heard of this site since moving back to home soil and a work contact suggesting I post here offering my services. But having read posts and the full forum fully now I've feeled it out. And although I'd love to share whatever knowledge I have on the daily I also need to work and earn. As we all know. An escort doesn't earn much during pregnancy.
But I will carry on following the site and it's forums. As I can see, it's a great place that people share on. I might in fact contribute to the time wasters section for Dubai visiting girls when I get the time after I've read the posting rules :D
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That’s a pity because I may have been interested myself.
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Ive toured dubia myself , use massage republic or go on a tour with an agency . be carerful and not be stupid and you will fine , saying that im not sure il go back as i can make just as much money in london or shanghi.
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not all agencies are bad , the best one is one that doesnt even advitise though!
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Thread tidied. Can people please read who they're replying to before posting - some of that was actually painful to read?
This isn't a general discussion thread on Dubai and the merits of it's various pimps; we have those already and the OP's main misunderstanding seems to be that it's a good idea to come here and try to make money out of other sex workers when they can come here themselves and get help with all of the above for free. What we could have done is help her make more money out of punters, but since she hasn't asked we'll wait and see if she does.
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If your British it is not so bad. Your earnings are not confiscated. Your put on a flight back to the Uk. And banned from returning. It's not Saudi. Which involves situations none of us know about that could happen. Dubai is a place to be judged by those that have been. Not going on the press and myths. Ive met over 50 girls in my time in Dubai in the industry. With one getting arrested. Being a Czech girl who was causing a lot of trouble. She had overstayed her tourist visa, alongside being drunk and disorderly in public being violent. I never worried about compromising even my regular job alongside working. Anyone knows how to behave and not to attract attention. It is true, you need to be gutsy and confident in a new place. But also low key and respectful of the environment around you.
If you seek trouble, it will come. Never have I or close girls around me had any. Only more likely the odd drunk client on a late in call, if you entertain those, I don't in any city unless a regular who pays handsomely for his annoying state.
You cannot say what they do in every case i have an aunt and cousin who lived and worked over there as lawyers.
It is illegal over there to have sex outside of marriage and some tourists that reported being raped over there were then arrested for having sex outside marriage and thrown in jail it is a very strict country just because so many get away with it does not mean every single person will. There is big risks over there and everyone should know the penalties if caught.
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I've built up a regular book of clients ready waiting to book. But I'm now no longer able to fulfil those requests whilst being back here in the UK / retiring for this period of time.
Some, not all, people loathe navigating the possible minefield of a first tour in a new city/country. I was once one of those people, the risk of having an possible empty tour and wasting my time. But also I hated paying repeat commission to an agency on meeting the same client twice, three times etc etc.
So I'm offering that I can set up frequent bookings to make for a busy first tour. With a one off fee on each client I book in for you. (I'd ask 30% on each new booking with each new client). This is for my time and efforts. After which I'd hope you've gained a new client to keep and build your own client base for repeat tours etc.
Dubai clients are having a tough time of it, with the mass of fake listings. Becoming extremely distrustful. There's a lot of switch and bait going on with groups of foreign gangs waiting for them on in calls. Stealing everything they have on them, whilst appearing to be a pretty European girl on the profile. I get in undated with requests to meet trusted aqauntances I can recommend to them and have organised previous tours for friends in the industry based on it being less stress for the girl, she can just clock on every day when she starts. Get garaunteed bookings, but ultimately gain a good set of regulars for her next trip.
Rates are steadying around 300/400/500£ an hour. In calls in the comfort of your own hotel. Two clients a day minimum.
The type of clients that come my way seek:
A friendly welcoming demeanour.
Someone on time.
Who appears to enjoy her work.
I'd would need a collection of nice pictures to send discreetly to them so they can see if they'd like to meet. To work with someone who's honest, well presented. Has good time management. And I can promise in return I will make you as busy as you would like to be.
Dates / meetings / bookings. Meaning the same thing. A scheduled meeting with a client of the typical nature.
Hi LondonLadyX,
I just saw your post on your offer for clients in exchange of commission in Dubai. Me and my friend want to tour together and are very interested. We are planning for September. We are also very interested in paying in exchange from expert advice on successful touring.
I look forward to hearing back and connecting.
Marian
marian.frenchbliss@gmail.com
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I was too quick to post on here. Having done some more research on further past forum subject posts.
Being Indie myself for so long I knew only too well we don't like to work for others/give others our share of earnings. Hence why I was considering offering an "introduction" type fee where I don't want repeat commission for same repeat clients. But can get a new girl on the scene started.
I've seen a lot of girls come and go in Dubai and not quite get it right with choice of hotels, finding the right clients, keeping them and avoiding the time wasters etc. And thought whilst semi retiring for this year to come I could work in another aspect of the industry. Network and earn. Like we all seek to do in life. But I think I'll just do this by word of mouth within the circle of girls I know who ask me to do this.
Thankyou for your previous input. All the best. X
Nothing wrong with wanting a commission for your client list. It took you a while to build it up and it's worth money. Your offer is very straightforward and normal. We are all doing this job to earn money right, so we can help each other in such a way. I think it's brilliant of you to offer this and it can truly help girls on their first tour in Dubai.
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Your offer is very straightforward and normal.
It would be if the OP was opening an agency. Otherwise it is neither.
We are all doing this job to earn money right, so we can help each other in such a way.
Yes, we're doing the job to earn money - from punters. Then, like the many people here with hundreds of useful posts and years of supportive contributions on and off the forum, we can afford the time to help each other out for free. Just because this patently isn't your view doesn't make the rest of us odd or wrong for being happy to help for free and I wouldn't dream of expecting payment for helping another prossie out if she needed it whether it was with screening or anything else, especially when it came to working in difficult parts of the world.
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This isn't a general discussion thread on Dubai [...]
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It would be if the OP was opening an agency. Otherwise it is neither.
Yes, we're doing the job to earn money - from punters. Then, like the many people here with hundreds of useful posts and years of supportive contributions on and off the forum, we can afford the time to help each other out for free. Just because this patently isn't your view doesn't make the rest of us odd or wrong for being happy to help for free and I wouldn't dream of expecting payment for helping another prossie out if she needed it whether it was with screening or anything else, especially when it came to working in difficult parts of the world.
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To be honest, I tried to contact a few girls asking for advice on touring and offering to pay in exchange but haven't heard anything back. I'm a bit disheartened by the lack of support. I know that there are articles and conversation threads on here but I would really like to speak in person with a girl who has done it and can share some valuable information so that I can avoid wasting time, money and make stupid mistakes. So if you know a girl who is willing to share that info and help, that would be brill. And I would be very happy to pay commission on a girl's existing client list at a specific destination as this would help me get started.
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I am interested, London Lady. If you are still around (and if you are still offering your services), please get in touch.
braziliana007@gmail.com
Many thanks.