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Re: "Client Eye" free Reporting app for TW/Call-SMS Pest/Abusive/No Shows
« Reply #660 on: 12 April 2022, 11:03:16 pm »
I assume that clienteye isn’t always 100 percent accurate and sometimes clients are on there for no reason.

A regular of mine has a report on there that I hadn’t seen before but was just being nosey. It was for a no show. I never spoke to him about it. I do pity the escort he no showed and would hate it if it was me but I haven’t stopped seeing him cause he is a good regular and I need the money.

Anyone else had this experience. This is by no way a thread to bash clienteye or call it inaccurate it definitely is accurate like 90 percent of the time and it’s such a valuable and brilliant too for us all but can’t help but feel maybe there a exceptions.

I continue using it and do block most people who have reports unless they do sound very genuine as I do need the money and once the report they have is nothing serious or abusive.

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« Reply #661 on: 12 April 2022, 11:30:49 pm »
I have no idea because I don't use it, but this is the thread to discuss this app.

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« Reply #662 on: 13 April 2022, 12:44:25 am »
Sophie, depends on the context but I guess one report isn't necessarily a 100% timewaster. I only discovered CE after I'd been working 10 or so months so checked all my contacts, some no shows were serial TWs and some of my regs had 1 report, but one of my regs had multiple. I carried on seeing him until he shortchanged me then no showed. I saw a guy last week who enquired via AW email, then phoned me, and I accepted the booking as we had chatted, if I'd gone by the 1 report alone I'd not have seen him but he was lovely. Booked me for 90 mins and left after an hour. I think reports are a pinch of salt tbh. Exercise your own caution. I know of escorts who have accepted bookings with 3+ TW reports and the guy has actually shown up.
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« Reply #663 on: 13 April 2022, 07:53:54 am »
Yes of course there is going to be fake reports on there.
It’s humans using it.
But there’s also a case of a punter doesn’t act the exact same with every escort, so while they may be fab with you it’s completely different with others.
I worked before finding CE, and turned out a few clients of mine had reports. Some ended up totally right others not so much.

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« Reply #664 on: 13 April 2022, 09:49:41 am »
I have noticed a variety of reports, my long-term and most short term regulars don't have any reports. One has a partial number match with a report on here, the OP is no longer a member so I cannot be sure it his him, the report coincides with a time when it was difficult for him and I to arrange a booking (I wasn't offering the location/incall he required) but the details do not match up however that's not to say it is not him.

I also receive a lot of cam enquiries reported for 'asking for cam', most follow through which is fine with me.

I do find CE very, very useful if only to reassure the gut feeling, especially when the guy acts as if I am being unfair - I look and lo and behold he's reported as being vile/pushy/aggressive/sending daft messages at daft times with others.

I am familiar with different behaviour, also potential 'just didn't click' reports made on forums before CE (and NUM) were initiated. Another sex worker very local once sent me a long email warning about someone who was a regular of mine then (over 12 years ago), still is without any issue. He without asking told me about the booking, putting both sides together sounded like they had gotten off on the wrong foot. She sneered at his bottle of wine (Mateus Rose) wrote in her email it was 'cheap' and she thought he intended her to drink it during the booking. I very much doubt that because of the way he was with me regards my own relationship with alcohol, he does like to bring presents without any ulterior motive.

I won't go on, but I find if a person is a tw@t it comes through in their contact with me. What I do is add to the info on CE if, when appropriate.

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« Reply #665 on: 13 April 2022, 11:12:02 am »
@sophie your regular client having just one report for a no show is not too bad. Unless he’s a serial timewaster with numerous reports then Thts problem.
As I have a semi regular client , who has some dodgy reports of removing condoms which he has never done with me. Only shows you some clients can act differently towards different escorts. The app is supposed to be a guide— Use ur instincts.

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« Reply #666 on: 13 April 2022, 12:18:27 pm »
I think CE reports probably are mostly accurate i think it's just a very small percentage of fake reports but it's a system where you choose whether to take notice or not.

There is still women that openly admit they still take bookings for clients with reports for no show etc and some obviously no show like reported and sometimes they turn up. It's true some clients behave for some and do not for other's that is a fact.

What CE has shown me is that at least half of men that contact us are not even genuine paying clients but sad messers which i have always known but good to see the evidence in black and white.

It's a great app without a doubt.


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« Reply #667 on: 13 April 2022, 01:01:35 pm »
It's great that Clients cannot read there own reports anymore obviously does not stop the few women that still are showing clients they know the reports and breaking the rules.

I had a man the other week that contacted me and guessed why i was busy constantly he knew exactly what was wrote word for word got shown it by another sex worker, which must be true as they cannot read the reports. I told him don't know what you going on about but now as you said you got bad reputation i am not seeing you.

I am noticing a lot more men changing numbers which was bound to happen but they soon build up more bad reports as bad men do not stop being bad. Some apparantely i got told change there sims every month or so well that shows you they are a bad client that not many will see. Decent clients would never need to do that.

I gone through all the really nicer clients i seen out of curiosity and none have bad reports several weeks and months after.

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« Reply #668 on: 13 April 2022, 01:45:37 pm »
@English Green .. exactly no decent client goes about changing their numbers every month. Only lowlife dangerous clients do tht. And I’ve noticed a raise in badly behaved clients with no reports which shows they change their numbers regularly now.

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« Reply #669 on: 13 April 2022, 03:26:05 pm »
@English Green .. exactly no decent client goes about changing their numbers every month. Only lowlife dangerous clients do tht. And I’ve noticed a raise in badly behaved clients with no reports which shows they change their numbers regularly now.
I agree

I think this has happened because many girls say stuff like 'your number will be shared in escort whatsapp groups and you will be blacklisted'
sheer stupidity in my opinion

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« Reply #670 on: 13 April 2022, 08:51:00 pm »
Been looking for a thread but can't find one.
I thought warnings were active as soon as they were posted or has that changed now?

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« Reply #671 on: 13 April 2022, 10:24:57 pm »
Been looking for a thread but can't find one.
I thought warnings were active as soon as they were posted or has that changed now?

It generally is. I remember reporting someone for haggling on 1st month, when I checked again later that day he had 2 other reports all for same month (still 1st of the month). I have occasionally checked, seen no reports, then when checked weeks later noticed they had reports from months ago. That's happened twice now.

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« Reply #672 on: 16 April 2022, 06:23:40 pm »
If they are down as abusive or harassment etc I would never see them but if they were down as a timewaster then I would consider seeing them if it was quiet but save them as TW? after their name and age.

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« Reply #673 on: 17 April 2022, 09:02:57 am »
Our statement on the future direction of ClientEye

It's with a heavy heart that we must announce that ClientEye can no longer remain in its current free format from the 17th of May 2022.

OUR JOURNEY (2018-2022)

We started our apps to increase the safety of a local group of workers we were part of, in the 4 years since then, we have grown to become the biggest reporting database of its kind in Europe with over 250,000 reports, we regularly receive 400-500 reports a day, and deliver 13,000+ reports & over 500,000 notifications every month.

We have personally taken on 2nd jobs in order to fund ClientEye and have worked 12+ hours a day, 365 days a year for almost 4 years to keep our apps operating, unfortunately, month after month our costs have exceeded the revenue or donations we have received.

In '20-'21 our losses totaled £5800, in '21-'22 our losses totaled £3800, and we can unfortunately no longer fund ClientEye in its current format.

We have come to the realization that funding a free app, via supporters & donations alone, whilst costing us £1000's per year is not viable in the long term, and if our apps are to continue, we have to find a new funding direction to sustain our continued growth and further app updates.
 
VARIOUS OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT

We conducted a 12mth trial of an ad-based system for android users, unfortunately, the revenues from these changes have been minimal at best, and very much annoying to the user experience.
 
We looked into the pros and cons of obtaining charitable status and funding solely via fundraising/applying for grants, but we felt this would be a greater burden on us having to administer a charity as well as all the tasks currently involved in operating our apps.

Close down ClientEye, we simply cannot allow this to happen, ClientEye has proven itself to be the premier safety app within the UK for 1000’s of daily users who rely on the safety our apps bring them.

Pass our databases and apps onto another group who could maybe continue our work. Although we could pass on the apps we could not pass on the databases (for legal reasons) and without the databases, our apps would not work.

A subscription model. This is an option we have been trying to avoid for over 18mths as we understood this would be a shock to all users. Unfortunately, a transition to a subscription model is our only viable option.


OUR CHANGES - from 17th May 2022

Today 17th April 2022, we have recorded the current "report count" of each user and stored the results in a separate field in our databases, we have also reset all users' "search counts” to 0.

(Users who wish to check their current report & search counts, can select the shield icon that appears in the top menu of our apps when viewing our report results pages.)

Users who have already made 100+ reports, will not see any changes until March 2023.
Users who have already made 31-99 reports, will not see any changes until September 2022.
New & existing users with a report count <30, will start to see changes from the 17th May 2022.

Users will be able to complete 100 unique searches before being limited in the report description details they can see, at that time or after any time extension, users will be given information on how to remove the additional restrictions.

All users, regardless of their restriction status, will continue to see if any, number/username/e-mail has been reported and the report type, users will also continue to receive all auto-notifications and see any linked details, if their app version supports these features and users will continue to see their own reports regardless of any restriction status.

Working closely with our key partner Vivastreet, we've developed a web-based version of our app exclusively available to active Vivastreet Escort & Massage advertisers, free of charge. This will launch on Vivastreet from 17th May 2022.

Our current ad-free supporters will automatically be transferred to our new system and will not see any changes for as long as their supporter status remains unchanged.

OUR APOLOGIES

We understand that no one will be happy with the changes we are having to make and apologize for them, we also understand some users may miss out on any time extension due to reinstalling, however, we have to set the changes at some level & we hope our users will understand, that if ClientEye is to continue, with a much bigger platform than we could ever have imagined, financial changes have to be made.

We have tried to find a balance that ensures we lessen the impact of our changes on our low volume/occasional users as they will still be able to perform searches without a subscription for as long as possible, and thank our higher volume users, who have contributed the most reports, as they will be able to use our apps without a subscription for an extended length of time.
Our hope is that any much-needed revenue generated from subscriptions will start to cover our ever-increasing monthly & yearly costs and that this will allow us to better plan, fund, and develop future app updates. Thank You …… Emma & Richard ( ClientEye )

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Re: "Client Eye" free Reporting app for TW/Call-SMS Pest/Abusive/No Shows
« Reply #674 on: 17 April 2022, 10:43:33 am »
What will happen if you have more than one work phone? I use the app on two thanks