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General Category => Warnings & Wasters => Reporting (Persistent) Timewasters, Phone & Text Pests => Topic started by: Fabreeze on 14 August 2011, 03:02:36 pm
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This guy posted an ad as follows
"? 50 FOR A QUICK FUCK - m4w
? 50 for a quickie
I can host 5 Mins walk away from a Central London Tube station
Min 18 Max 22"
So I thought why not? So we exchange emails and he gave me his telephone number. To cut a long story short, when I got there, he offered me a drink (had zero charm) we sat talk for a short while and then he ushered me to come closer, at which point I stated I wanted the money before hand.
He states money after and that if I do not like that I must leave, so I got up to go, as he mutter and talked about how the mood is gone blah blah, and he did not want a hooker :0 well I ask him did you not state you was willing to pay? Yes and he ushered me out the door, putting his hand on my back, which I turn around and said "DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS ON ME"
What you ladies think? Is this normal or i it because he specifically wanted your "average" girl?
and do you think he could have had hidden cameras and if he did, is that against the law?
His details - Oxford street ***67697495
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Well, he was very straight forward about what he had in mind so you should have done the same thing and sent him an e-mail previously so that everything was clear. Something along the lines of: I'll show up in your place, chat for 10 minutes and expect the money during that time. After that it will be fun for 18 to 22 min. Signed Fabreeze". That would have ticked him off and you would have saved the trip.
Beware of these guys nowadays posting on the casual encounters of CL looking for "amateur" WG's because they know they can get away with scumbag behaviour that regular professionals wouldn't take (that's why they post there). Good ol' decent punters know were to look for a professional service. Most of the guys posting there are cheap, TW's or looking for naive girls they can "juggle" around with the silly excuse of "I don't like professionals".
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Thank you so much Ana for your response. I will bare that in mind for the future.
Sigh. It did make me feel a way tho
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I can imagine! ???
As an anecdote I have a client who confessed me a couple weeks ago that he had met "someone" on the CL casual encounters (this is a 62 year old guy). He was very smitten because she was a pretty student in her 20's and-not-a-WG (proudly said in his own words). I was curious with the story (I find very surprising to hear about 20's y.o's trolling for 62 year old men online). So after some talk he end up confessing me that the "non WG" (lol) had charge him 100 pounds for a 4 hour date (sex included) to "help with her rent". I felt like calling her and sayin: "Listen, if you're going to charge for sex maybe you should take a look at the market prices because that was almost a freebie". Of course I didn't do it because it's none of my business, but I then I understood men's "appeal" of trolling for "non WG's" on CL.
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Also make sure you check people's addresses before you go there and find a buddy (maybe another WG or a boyfriend/friend) who can monitor your outcalls. Don't do this by yourself (specially if you're a newbie to the business!). Do keep in mind that CL is the online capital of dodginess. I wouldn't be searching there as a newbie to be honest, I would market myself properly in more professional and reputed websites or find a good agency. I know work is slow because it's August and things won't start happening till September, but don't take unsafe risks because they're not worth it.
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Wow I guess ?25 an hour is better than nothing at all...
This what upset me as well. The guy wants me to hug up and kiss up like I am his woman for ?50...
He stated QUICKIE, I thought it would literally be that, in out, wham bam thank you mam, no longer. Never again.
Yeah the chick needs schooling.
I guess the stigma that comes with being a pro is one that the 'giver' or 'reciever' is willing to attach themselves to.
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At Ana I have all his details before hand and I had given them to a friend. I am not exactly new in the sense that I did escort work for a couple months last year, took all the precautions, even met a guy from CL and everything was kosher. I never had any problems with anyone before.
I only decided to start back up this week and this BS happen *sigh* Maybe it is a sign
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So this scum of the earth who uses casual encounters to search for inexperienced & naive girls lied to you. He was looking for a 20 min quickie but it turned out what he was expecting was a long girlfriend service with chatting included and the possibility of not paying you at the end. This is why you need to avoid CL and use reputed professional sites. I'm not saying that there aren't any decent men there on CL but the majority are posting there (versus looking in the pro escort sites) for a reason fabreeze. Don't be naive :-) Big hug and I hope you don't take this the wrong way.
xoxo 8)
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Yes he was looking for GFE, when he stated quickie, what the hell??? For ?50 I am sorry. Its a good thing I did not live far.
Nah I have not taken it the wrong way at all. This is not something I have did for long so in a sense I am new and I guess it could not always go perfectly.
Indeed I believe I will have to go over to some reputable agencies. If possible would you be able to inbox me any.
There is a lot of creeps on CL, no doubt... I swear some are trying to get off on emails :s
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Craig's is the dregs! Period! Lots of timewasters, picture collectors, cheapskates and just plain old liars! When I had some down time, I did post an ad and the responses I got were laughable. Most of the guys wanted all out service for ?40!!!!!! :o Incredible! Don't even bother with that site!
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Craig's is the dregs! Period! Lots of timewasters, picture collectors, cheapskates and just plain old liars! When I had some down time, I did post an ad and the responses I got were laughable. Most of the guys wanted all out service for ?40!!!!!! :o Incredible! Don't even bother with that site!
Agree! And Gumtree! Not that you can use them much now since they got strict. But all those type of sites have scum of the earth use them. And I know because I learned the hard way:-(
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I hate it when men are in denial that they need a WG. Like these guys in the sugar daddy sites that are willing to give all manner of gifts or whatever but are 'not interested in pros!'
:-X
Ana is totally right that the guys on CL are just look for desperate part-time or newbie working girls that they can scam and get freebies from. "I'll pay ?50 for a quick fuck" then "I do not want a hooker". WTF
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I hate it when men are in denial that they need a WG. Like these guys in the sugar daddy sites that are willing to give all manner of gifts or whatever but are 'not interested in pros!'
Basically the mentality behind those sugar daddies site guys resumes in: "I'm looking to pay someone for sex but I don't want someone who charges for sex. Basically I hate the idea of paying to get laid so I'm trying to make it seem like there's no commercial transaction. I want a woman who will play it along and act like she's never charged for sex cause I hate to be reminded of................
Denial, anyone?
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I think the whole concept of the modern day sugardaddy is eroded - too much supply and too little demand. Scummy men purposefully go on SD.com to get free sex but they wrap it up in a different package as all of you have pointed out - they like sex but don't want to pay for it ::) . Besides the fact that these sites charge for reading messages, they are completely stupid and a waste of time. Basically, you have to go on several dates with a guy in exchange for a "promise" of financial help. Usually, these guys want sex and to sample the goods before you even see one red cent. :-X Waste of time!!! Craigslist in London is awful - the same men keep replying to your ad and then offer a fee so low you can't even buy a travel card from it. It is much better to stick to sites dedicated to our profession as it makes it clear what you are offering and what is for sale. The original poster got an unfortunate arsehole who is seriously in denial.... for 50 quid he should have had his member in his hand and geared up for action when that doorbell was pushed!!! GFE for 50? Puhllease!!! ::) It just goes to show that before you meet with someone, you need to make it clear what is on offer and how much he is willing to pay for it.
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Fabreze - I really don't think he had hidden cameras by the way. I just think he really wanted to waste your time and drag out the meet and you would stay hours and give him sex during those hours. He really wanted to have a "four hour booking" at a "fifteen minute rate" ;D I think if you intend to use Craigs again, you should write to the man that in order to make you feel comfortable and more in the mood, the money turns you on so payment should be made first ;)
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Oh God, I met up with that guy too! I'm very new to this business and only created a profile on AW recently (I didn't even know about the site a couple of weeks ago!), and was going through ads on CL... I didn't think ?50 was much - even if I was new I realised that it must be below the going rate - but I was about to go for drinks with friends near where he lived and thought I'd pop in to see him and have an exciting quickie before heading for a night out.
Everything went fairly well in the beginning - despite the fact he looked quite a bit older than in his blurry photo - and he wanted me to lie down and go down on me. Then he got on top of me and I could tell he wanted to start fucking me, and I suggested we get a condom... which totally killed the mood for him!!! UNBELIEVABLE. He was hoping to trick a naive newbie girl into have bareback sex for almost no money, basically. That's probably why he made you leave when you asked for money upfront - he realised you had a professional attitude and would not let him sleep with you bareback.
What happened after that was that he just got up and said 'It's not going to work' and became quite angry. I put my clothes on started to leave - I hadn't asked for the money at any point and was expecting him not to pay me but I didn't really care as I just wanted to get out... but when I got my coat I noticed he'd left sixty pounds next to it, which I then spent on a great night out which ended in non-paid sex with a handsome stranger. Happy ending at least :)
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Also based on my little experience I would say don't look for guys on CL - big potential of them being stingy & timewasters. After discovering the pro sites I realised I could be paid ?400 for a couple of hours of sex, and that the guys using those sites were very respectful, punctual and considerate... I'd never even look at cl again now.
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Hi,
I'm new to thing and having been using craiglist but finding it a waste of time. Could you please tell me the sites that you are talking about.
Thank you
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Hi,
I'm new to thing and having been using craiglist but finding it a waste of time. Could you please tell me the sites that you are talking about.
Thank you
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