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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: MiltonKeynesAnon on 20 July 2014, 09:54:24 am
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Hey this is really awkward cos I'm new to all this but in short I need money and am advertising on craigslist for clients and I have loads already, but I'm really nervous about it all I've never had sex or done anything. I'm so anxious about it I mean I've had depression w/ anxiety for years anyway so it kind of adds to it, also I do feel kinda bad about what I'm doing? It's so stupid I know ::)
I have a guy to take my virginity in my house this Wednesday night, two friends will be there if things get bad, but he's giving me ?2000 which is a risky amount anyway, but I need money. So obviously I'm really nervous. I've also arranged others to meet with pretty soon too. Basically I'm new to all of this and nervous and scared of things going wrong, especially since if my family knew they'd kick me out. I don't know what else to say I though I thought this would be a long post but it isn't. This is what I have so far:
- 2 ?50 BJs
- ?2000 for my virginity
- ?600 for a guy to dom me in a public toilet
They're the comfirmed ones, anyway.
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Ok doing this out of desperation makes me worry that you may leave yourself incredibly vulnerable.
Of course you are nervous, you've never had sex before and are about to do it with a complete stranger.
Are you accepting ?2000 cash?I'd be nervous about taking such a large amount especially with it being your virginity you are exchanging, if there's anything wrong with the cash or he somehow takes it back then you cannot take your virginity back.
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@Rosa And yes I think so cos I did request cash which is why I'm so nervous, tbh I don't care about losing my virginity it's just sex to me like I have no emotions about it I'm just anxious about it all and I don't wanna be scammed. I'm getting small amounts of money for BJs ect tonight I have like 3 guys over the next 48 hours so should get ?200 in total so hopefully that will make me more prepared, but I know this guy with ?2000 also messaged a friend of mine and offered her ?2000 and has arranged to meet her for that money too which makes it more suspicious. I mean, I really want that money but I can only sell my virginity once so I don't want to be scammed, but I will have two friends to protect me and check the money.
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I would be very wary about these so called confirmed bookings from Craigslist....the 2000 for your virginity and 600 for domming you in a public toilet? They don't sound real and the latter sounds bloody dangerous for an experienced sub ket alone a new girl who states they haven't actually had sex before let alone anything else.
There are other ways to make money than this love.If you are determined to be a sex worker what about doing camming to ease in? Or offering massage and hand relief and see how you feel about that?
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@Bibi I know the 2000 makes me really wary but I will have two friends ready to intervene so what do you feel the risk is?
As for the guy in the toilet I actually thought that's safer - it'll be in public so I could easily scream if things go wrong, but let me know if there's shit I haven't considered.
I am easing myself in as much as I can - tomorrow at 7pm I'm giving a guy a BJ and rim for ?100 and I'm trying to book a client for tonight, to be honest if I want to back out of the 2000 guy at the last minute I can just not answer the door and I'm currently looking through the warnings and time wasters thread for people in London, Buckingham or MK.
If anyone knows any clients into BBW feel free to PM me so I can gain experience with trusted people?
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I am getting a really BAD feeling about this!
I am new too, but it takes time and it is better to have several bookings for less money. I would not see anyone offering this amount of money as I would be suspicious. The notes could be fake, he could become violent - the list goes on. A girl sold her virginity on a well known auction site and got a heck of a lot more than that! Bear in mind that some girls (me included) charge ?1000 for an overnight and even then the client would need to be known to me.
I'm not an expert by any means but regardless of how desperate you are, I am worried for your safety. As for the dom session in a public toilet - again I wouldn't. I wouldn't meet anyone regardless of the money on offer in a public toilet!
Please, please reconsider. Try AdultWork for starters. Research rates in your area and decide what type of services you want to offer. There is a market for everything and you should only ever do what you are comfortable with.
Be safe.
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As has been said, the more desperate you are, the easier it is to exploit you. New people attract those hopeful of finding someone to exploit like flies.
How much do you need the larger sums? Both those 'bookings' are making me concerned.
Domming you in a public toilet - if this actually happens and it doesn't end up with you both breaking the law, I will be amazed. Do you know what your boundaries are? How are you going to stay safe? If you end up covered in urine and faeces, what are you going to do about getting home?
Virginity - I'd be surprised if you couldn't get more for it. (More than once, if you're a good actress.) The fact that he's offering this to more than one person suggests to me that there's something fishy going on. What happens if you say that you've had other offers and you need a deposit - say ?50 - from him if he wants to secure his place? (Do a search here to find good ways to get this - PayPal isn't one.)
The main payments absolutely have to be in cash. If you haven't already done so, read the main SAAFE site (http://www.saafe.info/).
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Never do something because your desperate for money, I mean is your rent and bills covered do you have money to eat? If not there is help you can get.
Definitely don't do these bookings, thats if they are actually real as they scream timewaster to me.
Personally I think if you give your virginity this way you will end up regretting it.
As Bibi says what about camming or massage and hand relief.
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As for the guy in the toilet I actually thought that's safer - it'll be in public so I could easily scream if things go wrong, but let me know if there's shit I haven't considered.
Being in public makes it riskier that you'll be interrupted, for example. Are you thinking of passing as male and using a men's toilet? Because of men 'cottaging', there may be active observation of it. Are you thinking of using a women's toilet? How's he going to get in without being clocked by someone?
And again, what happens if this ends up with you covered in shit? If he's suggested a toilet, that will be the fantasy, although I have my doubts about whether the meet will happen in reality.
I am easing myself in as much as I can - tomorrow at 7pm I'm giving a guy a BJ and rim for ?100
Do you know the health risks of rimming? Are you going to use a barrier? Have you had a HepA vaccination?
If anyone knows any clients into BBW feel free to PM me so I can gain experience with trusted people?
There are a lot better sites to find clients into BBW than craigslist... Do a search for some of the specialist directories.
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@Bibi I know the 2000 makes me really wary but I will have two friends ready to intervene so what do you feel the risk is?
As for the guy in the toilet I actually thought that's safer - it'll be in public so I could easily scream if things go wrong, but let me know if there's shit I haven't considered.
I am easing myself in as much as I can - tomorrow at 7pm I'm giving a guy a BJ and rim for ?100 and I'm trying to book a client for tonight, to be honest if I want to back out of the 2000 guy at the last minute I can just not answer the door and I'm currently looking through the warnings and time wasters thread for people in London, Buckingham or MK.
If anyone knows any clients into BBW feel free to PM me so I can gain experience with trusted people?
Its not the money I think you need to be wary of, I highly doubt this guy will show up first of all. I think the risk is more mental in this case. As for being safer in public? Firstly someone might well call the police as you will be doing something sexual in a public place, secondly how do you know someone will intervene if things go wrong? How do you know if this is real that he hasn't called his mates to come to the toilet block it and then attack you?People won't send you pms sending you their clients love. You really need to think properly about doing these rather extreme bookings. Its not even about gaining experience in sex and bookings its about being realistic and being as safe as you can.It concerns me that you seem to have given the virginity guy your address...have you spoken to him and got a gauge for if he is real and what he expects from seeing you except popping your cherry? Have you properly discussed with either of these odd bookings what us expected from you?
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While I remember, you say you're 'young'. If that translates as under 18, your clients are committing an offence, and there is a risk that social services could start giving you unwanted attention.
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I think you need to have a good read of the main page on saafe for some info and food for thought and has been said fair better more real sites to advertise what you want to do than craiglist...people will send you all sorts of timewasting and down right exploitative emails when you are new and they can sense desperation a mile off.
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I think I might cancel on the ?2000 guy and the ?600 - I do want to sell my virginity though, just in the safest way possible and for the highest price - I doubt anyone would pay more than 2000 though. And I was actually planning on selling my 'virginity' a few times because I don't even have a hymen and men don't know when women are virgins anyway, although a few guys have asked to 'check' (including the 2000 actually) but I just said to them if they don't believe I'm a virgin we can fuck some other time, because they sound like time wasters and any man could accuse me of not being a virgin after sex and demand money back.
I think I'll keep my appointment for tomorrow though and the other small things I'm doing, like the guy coming over tomorrow. Also just to clarify, he wants to rim me which is the only reason I'm agreeing. Also a guy wants to lick me out so that should be safe too. I also have condoms in case guys don't bring them and I have lube so I am trying to be as prepared as possible and I have two friends on standby at all times ready to intervene or call the police. The money will also be checked for forgery before I do anything.
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I would suggest you only use your own condoms anyway. Don't rely on something a guy has brought. He may have tampered with it etc.
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I also have condoms in case guys don't bring them and I have lube
Yep. When it comes to doing stuff with condoms - you're using them for oral on them? - always, always, always use your own. You know they've not been tampered with for one thing, and some taste viler than others.
You can get free ones in a variety of sizes from a variety of places.
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I also have condoms in case guys don't bring them
Always provide your own condoms and be the one to put it on, if you have never done it there are videos on YouTube you can watch and there is the old practising on a banana.
Crossed posts with Ian.
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I have a feeling this will be a bad idea.
When I was a newbie I tried Craigslist first and only met one person who after one meet started stalking me and finding my personal information to use against me over a year. Only recently had I managed to get the police involved and have it all ended.
I don't trust Craigslist and I don't think you should either and as you're so desperate for money I really don't think it's a good idea at all x
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I think I might cancel on the ?2000 guy and the ?600 - I do want to sell my virginity though, just in the safest way possible and for the highest price - I doubt anyone would pay more than 2000 though. And I was actually planning on selling my 'virginity' a few times because I don't even have a hymen and men don't know when women are virgins anyway, although a few guys have asked to 'check' (including the 2000 actually) but I just said to them if they don't believe I'm a virgin we can fuck some other time, because they sound like time wasters and any man could accuse me of not being a virgin after sex and demand money back.
I think I'll keep my appointment for tomorrow though and the other small things I'm doing, like the guy coming over tomorrow. Also just to clarify, he wants to rim me which is the only reason I'm agreeing. Also a guy wants to lick me out so that should be safe too. I also have condoms in case guys don't bring them and I have lube so I am trying to be as prepared as possible and I have two friends on standby at all times ready to intervene or call the police. The money will also be checked for forgery before I do anything.
Even if your hymen its elastic, if you lose your virginity you will bleed and man know that. Cant fake it.
Always have your own condoms and use them.
Read the main saafe and the other people posts here and be safe.
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Even if your hymen its elastic, if you lose your virginity you will bleed and man know that. Cant fake it.
Erm, wrong and wrong.
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Even if your hymen its elastic, if you lose your virginity you will bleed and man know that. Cant fake it.
Erm, wrong and wrong.
Yes.
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I doubt anyone would pay more than 2000 though.
Why not? I bet I am MUCH bigger, older and uglier than you, and I can get ?2000 for a booking. AND I am not a virgin. You are worth whatever price you set on yourself. Believe that you are worth more.
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Even if your hymen its elastic, if you lose your virginity you will bleed and man know that. Cant fake it.
Erm, wrong and wrong.
Yes.
And yes from here too.
I don't remember ever having a hymen. Wore tampons from about 11 with no problems at all, and when I lost my virginity (at 14) I didn't feel a thing. Literally. No pain, no pleasure, no bleeding. Very boring, I wondered what the fuss about sex was!
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Yes, in some cases, wearing tampons, doing exercises or trying to ease the pain later can conclude to a broken hymen and no blood loss whn the first sexual act happends. That doesnt mean in this cases the girl is a virgin, she is one just because she didnt had penetration.
A virgin in 99% bleeds.
This is what Ive read online and what I know, not necessarily its absolute truth :)
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I'd like to just echo all the posts above. All of these bookings sound dodgy and not real bookings, in the sense that with real bookings the client books in a straightforward manner - there is no way they'd be meeting in a public toilet or paying 2000 for virginity. These guys you are messaging are either timewasters or worse (and you don't want to find out which!).
I really hope you don't think I'm being judgmental, but I'd urge ou to seriously think about getting your virginity out of the way in a completely non-paid situation before you even think about having sex for money. Because if you try out sex work and find that you hate it and it's not for you (which can happen and you won't know until you do it), then there will always be this horrible memory of how you lost your virginity. I know it's no big deal (hell mines was in a dentist's car park in a car with some 19 year old who had a pregnant girlfriend at home! :-\!!!!!), but it really is best not to get paid for the first time. Find a guy for a couple of dates and get it out of the way first before working would be my advice.
Since you are saying you are in need of the money, why not make yourself an Adultwork profile. DO NOT specify that you are "new" or give out any clues that you are naive. Read this whole site and all the info you can get your hands on about safety in the next day or so, put on your profile that you offer blow jobs only and give clear rates and times. For the first few times it would be best to have someone you trust on the premises. Or what about a parlour? At least it would be safe.
I think the "enquiries" you've had so far seem very dodgy.
If you need any more help you can always post up here or PM me x
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Yes, in some cases, wearing tampons, doing exercises or trying to ease the pain later can conclude to a broken hymen and no blood loss whn the first sexual act happends. That doesnt mean in this cases the girl is a virgin, she is one just because she didnt had penetration.
A virgin in 99% bleeds.
This is what Ive read online and what I know, not necessarily its absolute truth :)
99%, I very much think not.
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Yes, in some cases, wearing tampons, doing exercises or trying to ease the pain later can conclude to a broken hymen and no blood loss whn the first sexual act happends. That doesnt mean in this cases the girl is a virgin, she is one just because she didnt had penetration.
A virgin in 99% bleeds.
This is what Ive read online and what I know, not necessarily its absolute truth :)
As I said, I don't ever recall having a hymen, it never tore or bled. The first time I looked at my lady parts, I was about 8, there certainly wasn't one there, and I had never bled before that. And I don't know anyone - friends or family - who bled when they first had sex.
99% is too high a number, the bleeding when losing virginity is pretty much a man-made myth.
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I never bled and have never seen a hymen! And I'm certainly not a virgin!
I still am a bit puzzled when I look down there as I can't see a hole as such just like some bits that probably get pushed out of the way haha. But I have had numerous in depth full on gynae checks and no nurse or doc has ever said anything is up so I assume it's all normal lol
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As fascinating as this is, could we please get back to trying to help the OP - this is somebody who is clearly vulnerable and in a difficult situation who has come to the forum for advice and for whom time is a factor, and if anybody needs reminding of that then they need to read the thread starter again.
Anybody wanting to continue in this vein can start another thread, preferably on another forum.
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Just an update on my situtation:
-- My friend also doing this got ?100 last night and everything went brilliantly - the guy was really nice although a bit twitchy, and he was the perfect kind of client tbh.
-- Today I have an 11am, possible 3pm and 7pm booking but only my 11am has confirmed and tbh he sounds like a timewaster, he kept accusing me of being fake every time I didn't reply within ten minutes of him sending a message :FF
-- Most of the reason I'm nervous about all this is because I don't want people I know finding out because prostitution is, sadly, still seen as an awful thing ::)
-- If all my bookings are timewasters today I'm gonna be pissed off cos so many people I've booked have been - this one guy even sent me a shitty low res picture of some random girl like "this is rosie. she does the same for ?100, could u match her offer." and it's like no I'm not "Rosie".
-- Virgins don't always bleed and virginity is a stupid misogynistic concept anyway invented by men to reduce a woman's value and also I guess they just feel that important that they feel they change who a woman is by fucking her. Seriously, I'm selling my virginity multiple times.
I doubt anyone would pay more than 2000 though.
Why not? I bet I am MUCH bigger, older and uglier than you, and I can get ?2000 for a booking. AND I am not a virgin. You are worth whatever price you set on yourself. Believe that you are worth more.
Damn I'll have to see how much I can get by looking for the right people thanks, I have been using adultwork but it's not helped me much as of late I'm still figuring out the website.
Just I know this "16 year old" boy who offered me ?60k to fuck him in a public toilet and I was so tempted because money but I did have to decline on safety grounds because no one pays that much, same as I cancelled the 2000 guy. Although my friend hasn't so I am tempted.
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You can get a lot of money for your virginity however on craigslist is not the way to go. Try selling it on adultwork idk. Men WILL pay a lot of money for virginity but this all sounds too dodgy, You want guys with good feedback & even then be on your guard.
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Craigslist is full of time wasters, fantasists e.t.c It can also have very dangerous people using it. No offence, but I think there is a good chance a lot of those bookings are fake. I suggest if you use a more well known website, where you can read reviews on the clients, read up on security / vetting clients to keep yourself safe.
You are a vulnerable person, and these men can smell it from a mile away. Hunters always look for weak prey. You can find yourself in a much worse situation than what you started with. And I wouldn't see all these clients at once, if you do decide to meet up with one ( after you have done FULL security checks / and a have a security buddy who know's where you are / the client knows someone knows where you are). I would pause to see how you feel about doing this as a job, not only that, losing your virginity can be a big deal. The last thing you need is to have a nervous breakdown because you feel violated / abused.
Take it slow, make sure you fully informed on every part of the client transaction / meeting from security, payment, safe sex / std's. All the people above, are experienced professionals, so don't ignore their advice thinking they don't know what are taking about.
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-- Virgins don't always bleed and virginity is a stupid misogynistic concept anyway invented by men to reduce a woman's value and also I guess they just feel that important that they feel they change who a woman is by fucking her. Seriously, I'm selling my virginity multiple times.
I think this is a very bad idea and I would caution against it. I feel that selling your virginity multiple times is akin to scamming punters and being dishonest would be very bad for your reputation if you got caught.
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-- Virgins don't always bleed and virginity is a stupid misogynistic concept anyway invented by men to reduce a woman's value and also I guess they just feel that important that they feel they change who a woman is by fucking her. Seriously, I'm selling my virginity multiple times.
I think this is a very bad idea and I would caution against it. I feel that selling your virginity multiple times is akin to scamming punters and being dishonest would be very bad for your reputation if you got caught.
I have to agree with this, in this day and age with online ads and reviews etc it is quite easy for client's to find out your lying.
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Can we avoid climbing onto the high moral ground here? Lots of people do not tell the truth about something or other: age, size of various body parts, whether they have orgasmed etc etc.
Obviously it is going to be somewhat embarrassing if client A posts a review somewhere about being the first to do something before client B thought they were the first, but that's a risk that only the OP knows if it is worth taking. It doubtless used to be easier before the advent of sites where people both book someone and can review them...
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OK, without the ethics (which I don't care about, anyway): You can't sell your virginity more than once on AW. You just can't get away with it, the way the site is set up.
The 11am client would have been blocked by me the first time he accused me of being fake. Did he show? I hope if he did he was OK.
Honestly, advertising that you're naive and inexperienced will attract some of the worst people. You can make good money just selling normal sex to normal people.
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Hey there,
Please don't let your money worries rule you. Its never as bad as it seems. I think if you are happy to sell your virginity then more power to you. It is up to you if you sell it multiple times but this may come back to bite you in the bum. What I would do in your position is to advertise your virginity but put this at a high price (frankly I would put 20,000 rather than 2000) but offer only hand relief and oral to clients or massage with happy ending. This way you are making money but not selling yourself short.
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Hey there,
Please don't let your money worries rule you. Its never as bad as it seems. I think if you are happy to sell your virginity then more power to you. It is up to you if you sell it multiple times but this may come back to bite you in the bum. What I would do in your position is to advertise your virginity but put this at a high price (frankly I would put 20,000 rather than 2000) but offer only hand relief and oral to clients or massage with happy ending. This way you are making money but not selling yourself short.
It would be great to get 20, 000 but I doubt anyone would pay that unless there's a site where people sell their virginity or whatever. Unsurprisingly, they didn't show. I knew they wouldn't cos they stopped emailing but it's still annoying. I don't think my 7pm will show today either (he offered 600) but he's from Adultwork so hopefully he might. I'm just having trouble getting started, if I could just get a few thousand for my virginity I'd be able to make the rest doing smaller things, but oh well. I have got a lot of interest on adultwork though so hopefully I'll find good clients there.
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please please please be careful
may i ask how old you are ?
i really hope you decide not to sell your virginity and wait for someone you like!
i echo every one else when they say they all sound risky!
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Hey there,
Please don't let your money worries rule you. Its never as bad as it seems. I think if you are happy to sell your virginity then more power to you. It is up to you if you sell it multiple times but this may come back to bite you in the bum. What I would do in your position is to advertise your virginity but put this at a high price (frankly I would put 20,000 rather than 2000) but offer only hand relief and oral to clients or massage with happy ending. This way you are making money but not selling yourself short.
As a point of reference potential clients should not be offering a fee..you should set your own rates and they should pay what you have stipulated. Anyone who tells you what they will pay either over your rate or under it is generally a timewaster.Personally speaking I think you would get genuine bookings if you just offered escort services rather than making out you are new and trying to sell your virginity.
It would be great to get 20, 000 but I doubt anyone would pay that unless there's a site where people sell their virginity or whatever. Unsurprisingly, they didn't show. I knew they wouldn't cos they stopped emailing but it's still annoying. I don't think my 7pm will show today either (he offered 600) but he's from Adultwork so hopefully he might. I'm just having trouble getting started, if I could just get a few thousand for my virginity I'd be able to make the rest doing smaller things, but oh well. I have got a lot of interest on adultwork though so hopefully I'll find good clients there.
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OP I read your post yesterday and ive been thinking about you a lot, how are things going?
Sophie
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Hope she's ok
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Yeah me too... it sounded like it was all going to end very very badly, I'm really hoping that isn't the case.