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General Category => Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Anna Condar on 19 March 2017, 08:20:08 pm
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I've just had an odd experience. I was booked by a client via the phone and he'd got my number via AW. Asked for 40 mins and booked in the time for this evening. I got everything prepped - condoms, massage oil etc and when he turned up, (20 mins early) I asked him if he wanted a refreshment etc. He didn't so I offered him a massage - didn't want that either. Seemed a bit twitchy, so I asked if this was his first time - no. I asked what he was looking for this evening and he said the GF Experience.
I took him through to the boudoir (!) and he spied the condoms and oil on the night cabinet and looked really apprehensive. I said that I was offering the full service hence the condoms and he said he didn't want the full service. I asked did he want HR or oral instead...he said to take off my bra (I did) and all he did was slip down his trousers and sit there expectantly, so I offered HR again. Got a no thanks so I said that I don't know what it is that you're looking for and he said that it doesn't matter and perhaps he'd misread the advert (after telling me earlier that he couldn't access or book through AW!!) and he'd leave. He then asked for a full or partial refund.
Ladies - what would you do? My thoughts were this is my time you've wasted, you've clearly been able to read the advert and you may have bottled it but...my time is my time and I declined other clients for this appt. Would you give back a full or partial refund?What would be your reasons?
I found it all very odd... :-\
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This does sound very strange, hmmm. I guess I would give back a partial refund just cos I think i would have felt sorry for him. Its annoying i know but you would be just as within your rights to change your mind, even though it isn't the done thing. I wouldn't give the full refund because just as you said, you missed out on other bookings. What did you actually do, did you refund at all or just keep the fee?
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I would refuse to give anything back at all. If he found your number on AW he clearly knows what your services are, and the fact that he took his trousers down would suggest this. I reckon he was probably a piss taker, and wanted to look and go, plus some exhibitionism on his part? I'd post a warning tbh.
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Wonder what he thought he was going for? Had he not slipped his trousers down, I would have thought perhaps he just wanted a kiss & cuddle, but he took down his trousers...and then didn't want HR or oral?!
I would have offered partial refund. You'd taken time to prepare, he arrived, he took down his trousers, he saw your tits. That might have been all he wanted (in reality).
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I would not have offered a refund but thats me
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There's clearly something not right about this chap. 20 minutes early?
Sounds like you had a lucky escape? Was he a member of AW? Have you seen his feedbacks? Did he sound normal over the phone? Creepy. :-\
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I would have offered partial refund. You'd taken time to prepare, he arrived, he took down his trousers, he saw your tits.
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Sometimes I wonder if guys actually take the time to read before they book... he knew he wanted a GFE and said it wasn't the first time seeing an escort, which tells me he must have known what a GFE includes, and was playing games to see how far he could push his luck. I would definitely mark him down as a TW.
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Sometimes I wonder if guys actually take the time to read before they book... he knew he wanted a GFE and said it wasn't the first time seeing an escort, which tells me he must have known what a GFE includes, and was playing games to see how far he could push his luck. I would definitely mark him down as a TW.
Exactly so why refund a time waster who booked a GFE? that didnt want gfe? sorry he wouldnt have got a penny back, hes a look, stay 10 mins and walk, no diff to a look and walk
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Exactly so why refund a time waster who booked a GFE? that didnt want gfe? sorry he wouldnt have got a penny back, hes a look, stay 10 mins and walk, no diff to a look and walk
If he was flat out demanding a refund, I would only give him a partial refund - not a full refund as he is a TW and has messed me about. It depends on his attitude... if his behaviour or language indicated in anyway that he might become aggressive, I would just shove some notes in his hand to get him out the door.
I've never been asked for a refund, and nor would I ever offer one... but, if I was faced with someone asking for money back, my safety comes first, and I would just do as they say.
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Sounds like an oddball, in this particular situation I may have given him half back but only because I would have been a bit freaked out in case he turned.
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I'm sorry if my paragraph is a little long. I had three clients over the past week behave like this and this has never happened before since I began New Year. I had three first timers within the past week who behaved like this. The first client left before I had time to collect the money. The second reduced from an hour to half an hour when booking and didn't park where I suggested and sprang poppers on me after paying. I nearly asked him to leave. The third client tried to bounce through booking and didn't park where I suggested. I make it clear I provide a slow and gentle GFE experience and prefer the man to lead and welcome first timers because I never rush anything. After paying he sprang on me he wanted me to teach him. I offer a speciality but do expect a man in his 50's to know what the basics are. I'm a bit lost and this became very awkward. I refused a refund. When he complained I offered to talk things through and begin again but he accused me over overselling myself and wanted to leave. My front door is a little fiddly and he accused me of trying to lock him in.
I'm not sure why I had a week of this. I'm blaming the weather or maybe it's just the season for it. My profile is very clear what I offer. My photos aren't the best but representative and not photoshopped.
I'm a bit confused by this. I can only guess and believe they sold themselves expectations and nerves got the better of them.
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I wouldn't refund if its the client cancelling, especially as it seems you did your best to make him feel comfortable and tried to discuss what he wanted. Only time I do refund is if I am the one to terminate the booking and the refund amount would depend on how much time had already been spent.
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Only time I do refund is if I am the one to terminate the booking and the refund amount would depend on how much time had already been spent.
That's pretty much how I work things, too.
I didn't give him any refund partial or otherwise. My understanding of how AW works for clients is that if that if they cansee you number, then they must be able to log in, ergo they can read the profile and see my gallery, which is selfies and not photoshopped. My profile is very clear on what I offer. After he left I wondered whether he was a copper or something! ;D :o
I'd asked him if he was a kisser - no, sonaturally y the time we got down to the pants stage and he didn't want anything - oral, HR or full service, I thought "well, the only thing I can offer then is a cup oftea!" and no, he didn't want that either... ;D
All very peculiar...
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Only time I do refund is if I am the one to terminate the booking and the refund amount would depend on how much time had already been spent.
Actually now more awake I am going to change my answer slightly, if I terminate a booking because the client has pushed boundaries, asked for bareback etc, never been attacked thank fully! Then no I would not refund.
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If I terminate an appointment yes, i would refund him some of the money but this guy was just a timewaster so would not have refunded him at all.
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Sounds like a classic creep who obvisouly gets to pull this stunt on a regular and then ask for a refund... I would only give him a partial refund and post a details about him here so he will no longer be wasting anyones valuble time.
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i would not refund him at all. Sounds like a time waster/pervert, he says he got things wrong but getting your number from AW ? he clearly knew what he was going for! x
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About refunding. A regular of mine was 45 minutes late today in a 2 hour appointment. I told him that we couldn't play that long because of another appointment but I let him pay the full amount because I had arranged another Mistress to participate as well. Felt a bit bad but 45 minutes late..
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i think the guy thought bareback was on offer, so was startled by condoms and didn't have the guts to say this to you.
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i think the guy thought bareback was on offer, so was startled by condoms and didn't have the guts to say this to you.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. It's a game with these types.
I wouldn't have given him anything back but a stern look & mouthful of get the fuck out the door then buddy. Bloody cheek asking for a full refund. What a pleb.
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Hi,
He might have issues...
I think more about my security that money, although I wouldn't like to be in a position where the client ask his money back, after being far in term of intimacy.
If the client wants absolutely a total refund with agressivity and threat, I would try to calm the situation down and negociate... maybe the half.
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Hi girls! (and the male sw's amongst us!) ;D
Yesterday was the first time that I've ever had a client do this and thought it was bloody cheeky of him.
He made a one hour booking and was finished by half - he got up and asked for half his money back as he was only half an hour. I've never had someone do this before, so I lied and said that as he'd booked and hour I had already turned down bookings to slip him in my schedule and giving him half his money back would mean I've lost money as a result. He kept on insisting that I'd "make an exception this time" with a stern look on his face, to which I repeated my response - I wasn't going to lose money just because he had cum sooner than he'd like.
Was a little weird as he chose to stay after and asked for a massage which I gave him.
Have any of you girls had this experience? What has been your response?
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Some guys can?t go for second round. Usually I just charge for time spend together and give rest back
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Refund isn?t something I do and it?s not mentioned as an option. According to my recollection it has happened to me twice that I was asked....
First time ( many many years ago), I lied and said that the money had already left the building so not possible.....
Second time, was a few months again where the guy booked for 2hours but only stayed 1H so I gave him som change back.
I have worked since 2009 so among the thousands I have seen only these can I vaguely remember.
You did right and I would have done the same thing but try different tactics to avoid the situation (conversation, a drink of water, long bj, long hand job, longer foreplay, massage)
Good luck...
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Nope you were absolutely right. No refund should be given in that situation. Even if you were lying about turning down other bookings that may have actually been the case, and it usually is. It'd be the same if say, you booked a massage for an hour and then jumped up halfway through to say 'I'm leaving I want the rest of my money back'. He booked your time, he's paying for it.
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I had that happen once only. He was such a creep and so insistent I was glad to get rid of him so I gave him ?40 back.
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Nope I wouldn't refund in this situation.You don't eat half your meal at a restaurant,decide you are full and then only pay for half of it.
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Hi girls! (and the male sw's amongst us!) ;D
Yesterday was the first time that I've ever had a client do this and thought it was bloody cheeky of him.
He made a one hour booking and was finished by half - he got up and asked for half his money back as he was only half an hour. I've never had someone do this before, so I lied and said that as he'd booked and hour I had already turned down bookings to slip him in my schedule and giving him half his money back would mean I've lost money as a result. He kept on insisting that I'd "make an exception this time" with a stern look on his face, to which I repeated my response - I wasn't going to lose money just because he had cum sooner than he'd like.
Was a little weird as he chose to stay after and asked for a massage which I gave him.
Have any of you girls had this experience? What has been your response?
If they are not total buttheads about it I am happy to refund (certainly not if demanded outright!) if they have not used the full time within reason but I am in control of this. A guy who wanted to extended a half hour booking to an hour booking only stayed for an extra 10 mins so I just halved how much it would have been added on for the hour so I was still in pocket as I don't offer 45min bookings as a rule.
Most of the nicer chaps are just happy you have recognised that they have not used all the time and will still book you again (IME) and won't take the piss if it has been you to offer money back but really it should always be entirely at your own discretion.
IMO If it feels demanded and you feel it's unjustified to give a refund, unless you feel in danger or threatened don't give in.
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I have refunded once when the guy booked an hour, came in 5 mins and couldn't get hard again. He'd already told me was a drug dealer so I was apprehensive anyway. He didn't ask but the atmosphere felt like it could turn so I said "You're obviously really tired, shall we call it half an hour and I'll give you back the rest of the fee?" He left without problems and that was more important to me than the extra 50 quid.
However I have had guys ask before and I've gone no love, that's not how this works.
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What is it that you advertise ? Did he think you were going to use the oil with the condoms ? If so it may have freaked him out as its known that oil damages/perforates condoms. Or maybe he thought he was coming for a massage and he freaked out at the condoms. Are you sure its not this combination that freaked him out ?
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not a chance noway i would have refunded him what a creep