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English Green

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When you say you went public with it do you mean you wrote it on your work profile? Or you just contacted everyone you had seen to inform them?


China_Grl

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Did this GUM Nurse have double blind , multiple- site, random  and peer reviewed evidence to back up what appears to be at best her/his anecdotal opinion ?
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When you say you went public with it do you mean you wrote it on your work profile? Or you just contacted everyone you had seen to inform them?

My site. Email. Punter forums. Whatsapp sex work groups. Sex worker/clients forums,

Yep, pretty much everyone!

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It’s up to the individual and not something that can be policed anyway. I would prefer those who offer it to do so openly, as that way, I can pick up on it when I am screening someone.

I do not offer BB and will not see a man who has engaged with an SP who offers it. That’s not because I think the SP is the risk, it’s that I think the man might be a bit of a risk taker and participate in other reckless behaviour.

TantricTease

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The risks of getting an STD from unprotected oral sex are typically much lower than the risks posed by having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, Warren says.5 Sep 2011
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This is from Wikipedia, I always thought unprotected oral was less risky than unprotected sex but some here disagree so I thought I would copy and paste the above.
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English Green

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The risks of getting an STD from unprotected oral sex are typically much lower than the risks posed by having unprotected vaginal or anal sex, Warren says.5 Sep 2011
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This is from Wikipedia, I always thought unprotected oral was less risky than unprotected sex but some here disagree so I thought I would copy and paste the above.

There is a lot that do get Gonorreah and Chlamydia etc from oral sex but obviously the risk of HIV is lower risk from oral but higher from unprotected vaginal or anal sex.

Saying that though the risk for HIV by oral is low but i do remember hearing that they do not always know how many might even catch it through oral as most do sex and oral who have contracted HIV and as it is caught easier through vagina or anal hard to even know exactly hpw it has been contracted. HIV does not seem to be the death sentence like it was years ago but even so nobody would want to catch it though. I was told by Gum nurse HIV is not as common now days compared to Chlamydia and Gonnoreah.

But i am comparing risks mainly to sex workers who see lots of different men every month rather then someone who might only have a few sexual partners in a couple of years.
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TantricTease

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Basically any unprotected sexual acts are risky and we are all taking risks but in a parlour or an agency then obviously the girls that offer BB are putting others at risk by offering it as lots of clients tend to go with all the girls and they do your head in by trying to get you to do it, in their mind if one girl gets pestered enough and just gives in then they think we are all the same, there is a certain mentality with parlour clients that Indy clients just don’t have, parlour clients are hardcore and sleazy and I’m not saying that AW clients aren’t, or can’t be, but I find them much easier to deal with both sexually and mentally, that’s been my experience anyway.

When a client asks me on the phone pre-booking if I’ll have BB sex then I just won’t take his booking but in a parlour then they don’t ask you until your naked and half way through the booking and as much as I would’ve loved to kick clients like that out of the room, then I would’ve been sacked in an instant if I did.

I don’t care if Indy girls want to offer BB as it doesn’t affect me, I think they are silly for doing so regardless if they are taking PrEP, because why would you want to have unprotected sex with a client anyway, but when you don’t work alone then it’s a hindrance to all the others which is why they are looked down upon and it’s why the other girls make sure they don’t last long because it affects us, and it’s easy to say “just say no” but they don’t just ask once, they badger you and badger you to the point you want to slap them and it’s a huge mark of disrespect for them to even ask, I have given many men lectures about BB but all they say is “it feels better” with no regard to their wife, cheating on their wives is one thing and I would have a cheek to judge them for it but at least be a safe cheater.

HIV is only possible through oral sex if you had an open cut and he comes in the mouth, the sexual health clinic advises to wait 24 hours after dental work so to lower the risk of any infections.

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There is a lot that do get Gonorreah and Chlamydia etc from oral sex but obviously the risk of HIV is lower risk from oral but higher from unprotected vaginal or anal sex.

Saying that though the risk for HIV by oral is low but i do remember hearing that they do not always know how many might even catch it through oral as most do sex and oral who have contracted HIV and as it is caught easier through vagina or anal hard to even know exactly hpw it has been contracted. HIV does not seem to be the death sentence like it was years ago but even so nobody would want to catch it though. I was told by Gum nurse HIV is not as common now days compared to Chlamydia and Gonnoreah.

But i am comparing risks mainly to sex workers who see lots of different men every month rather then someone who might only have a few sexual partners in a couple of years.

A GUM nurse told me that that kissing spreads every STI from herpes to HIV, so all SW's that offer kissing (GFE) are engaging in unprotected sex are riddled with disease(s) and and spreading them. A gum nurse me that EG, so it must me true right ?

TantricTease

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A GUM nurse told me that that kissing spreads every every STI from herpes to HIV, so all SW's that offer kissing are engaging in unprotected sex are riddled with disease(s) and and spreading them. A gum nurse me that EG, so it must me true right ?

HIV can’t be spread from kissing at all unless there was an open wound in the mouth that got some blood into it from infected person, HIV is spread from blood to blood or from semen to inside the anus or vagina. Herpes is just a cold sore so of course this is spread by kissing and other things.

I have never caught anything from kissing nor have I had a cold sore in my life, someone said that I must be immune from such things..I don’t know about that but now that I’ve said I’ve never had one then I bet I get one now..when I say such things out loud then I it’s like I jinx it and get the thing I said I’ve never had!😆

English Green

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A GUM nurse told me that that kissing spreads every STI from herpes to HIV, so all SW's that offer kissing (GFE) are engaging in unprotected sex are riddled with disease(s) and and spreading them. A gum nurse me that EG, so it must me true right ?

Considering those nurses see people day in day out and would have a more idea of percentages from test results they get i would listen to them more yes...but the above comments i would not listen to and i doubt many sex workers would kiss anyone with any signs of herpes around there mouth.

saltysweet

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A GUM nurse told me that that kissing spreads every STI from herpes to HIV, so all SW's that offer kissing (GFE) are engaging in unprotected sex are riddled with disease(s) and and spreading them. A gum nurse me that EG, so it must me true right ?

Yes I agree some medical professionals  are not always right or well informed ;)  A GUM nurse told me I am getting 'money for nothing' as I am a sex provider. They're not without their faults, gaps in knowledge, cultural and religious prejudices. Maybe even trying to influence the sex lives of clients they disapprove or are jealous of.


from www . NHS. UK on kissing and HIV
No. Evidence shows that the HIV virus is spread through the exchange of bodily fluids such as blood, semen and vaginal fluids, but not saliva.

Although HIV can be detected in saliva, it can't be passed to other people through kissing because a combination of antibodies and enzymes found naturally in saliva prevent HIV infecting new cells.

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I used to provide BB when I first started but really regret ever doing it. I took Prep..I was lucky and didn't get any STDs
. I would Never do it again. I still get some requests but block them straight away. I do worry it affected my reputation.

TantricTease

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I used to provide BB when I first started but really regret ever doing it. I took Prep..I was lucky and didn't get any STDs
. I would Never do it again. I still get some requests but block them straight away. I do worry it affected my reputation.
I totally appreciate your honesty and at least you changed what you were doing for yourself. Respect and credit where it’s due.

I remember from my parlour days I had gotten my friends friend a job, I told all the girls (I know they’re women but in parlours where I’ve worked then we were always referred to as girls, just before someone gets offended 😀) that this girl was nice, friendly etc etc, so she starts in my place of work and the very first client that she did offered her £50 extra for BB and she did it and told me and a few others and the girls fell out with me for it, needless to say that she didn’t last long but she jumped before we all pushed her out, but I went with the BB client next and for 20 mins out of the 45 he had booked then he pestered me to do it to the point I was nearly in tears due to the sheer disrespect of him asking and if I had have had a decent caring boss then I would’ve left the room and told the boss what he was doing so that I didn’t have to give him the whole time (this place were total sticklers for the exact time, if you were finished 10 mins early then we had to offer £10 back to the client😡) but she wasn’t a decent boss and the clients knew it which is why so many pushed the boundaries of the girls over and over. Anyway going off topic...but this is what it’s like when one girl does it, they assume we are all hard up for money..I just think that this girl is probably riddled now as she is an indie and very very busy and she hasn’t been in the job long enough to be that busy as it can take a while to get good at this job as there’s more to it that being good in the sack.

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Yes I had to make my screening much stricter and always empathise sex is fully protected no exceptions ever. If anyone asks I save their info and report on client eye that they asked. It's been slow recently but I wouldn't consider doing it even if I didn't make much money one day it's not worth it.